Comments on: Another example of Philippine Daily Idiocy! http://filipinovoices.com/another-example-of-philippine-daily-idiocy Powered By A Collective Voice Tue, 07 Feb 2012 20:47:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.3 By: Edward http://filipinovoices.com/another-example-of-philippine-daily-idiocy/comment-page-1#comment-89490 Edward Thu, 27 Aug 2009 14:22:43 +0000 http://filipinovoices.com/?p=7396#comment-89490 I read the whole editorial. The editor was implying, with a question mark, that the conflict was probably just a show for the political benefit of President Gloria. I think it was good, insightful and intelligent commentary. That attacks of Guerilla could be just excuses for media attention. The criticized president goes in the scene, then cleanses her image of her recent debauchery in the U.S. Sensible. A "created" conflict/enemy to "create" an image of a hero/leader. to unite the people with the President. If you are looking bad in front of the people, you would want to create a conflict (or enemy who would look worse) that would remold your image as a hero rather than an enemy. In 1984 by George Orwell, dictators used this strategy to manipulate public opinion and stay in power. That's probably why he titled it "Ominous Offensive". He was suspicious of these offensives popping up at "the right time". Will this be the pattern of the future conflicts in Mindanao? Could the president be in cahoots with the Military to create these conflicts? were some implied questions that popped in my mind. I read the whole editorial. The editor was implying, with a question mark, that the conflict was probably just a show for the political benefit of President Gloria.

I think it was good, insightful and intelligent commentary. That attacks of Guerilla could be just excuses for media attention. The criticized president goes in the scene, then cleanses her image of her recent debauchery in the U.S. Sensible. A “created” conflict/enemy to “create” an image of a hero/leader. to unite the people with the President. If you are looking bad in front of the people, you would want to create a conflict (or enemy who would look worse) that would remold your image as a hero rather than an enemy. In 1984 by George Orwell, dictators used this strategy to manipulate public opinion and stay in power.

That’s probably why he titled it “Ominous Offensive”. He was suspicious of these offensives popping up at “the right time”. Will this be the pattern of the future conflicts in Mindanao? Could the president be in cahoots with the Military to create these conflicts? were some implied questions that popped in my mind.

]]> By: J_ag http://filipinovoices.com/another-example-of-philippine-daily-idiocy/comment-page-1#comment-86469 J_ag Wed, 19 Aug 2009 22:53:21 +0000 http://filipinovoices.com/?p=7396#comment-86469 When the U.S. was formed they were know as United States are America. After the Civil War almost a hundred years later they became the United States of America. It was not planned... Then the idea that was the U.S.A. was born. What started out as an exclusive country for the WASP slowly evolved along the tracks set out by their founding fathers who based their trust in a belief system ruled by reason and faith in the human spirit. That belief system nurtured over centuries of reasoning and free thought. That then became their national purpose. So far it is holding in spite of wackos and crazies.... You can see some of those types here in this blog... There is a new type of Macharthyism afoot. A new form of facism even in the Philippines. Stupid rules... When the U.S. was formed they were know as United States are America. After the Civil War almost a hundred years later they became the United States of America.

It was not planned… Then the idea that was the U.S.A. was born. What started out as an exclusive country for the WASP slowly evolved along the tracks set out by their founding fathers who based their trust in a belief system ruled by reason and faith in the human spirit. That belief system nurtured over centuries of reasoning and free thought.

That then became their national purpose. So far it is holding in spite of wackos and crazies…. You can see some of those types here in this blog… There is a new type of Macharthyism afoot. A new form of facism even in the Philippines. Stupid rules…

]]> By: Bencard http://filipinovoices.com/another-example-of-philippine-daily-idiocy/comment-page-1#comment-86374 Bencard Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:07:52 +0000 http://filipinovoices.com/?p=7396#comment-86374 the philippine daily inquisition is evidently going the way of the leftist looney tabloid (in broadsheet), the new york times. in utter desperation to stay in circulation due to dwindling readership, both have to resort to using fantastic witch brew of partisan "editorials". the people behind pdi, and tabloids like it, have short memories. the licentious abuse of the generic "freedom of expression" was one of the driving force behind marcos' institution of martial law in 1972. among the first to be rounded up and eradicated was the "irresponsible" press. in every country that succumbed to totalitarianism, an abusive media is among the top target. the philippine daily inquisition is evidently going the way of the leftist looney tabloid (in broadsheet), the new york times. in utter desperation to stay in circulation due to dwindling readership, both have to resort to using fantastic witch brew of partisan “editorials”. the people behind pdi, and tabloids like it, have short memories. the licentious abuse of the generic “freedom of expression” was one of the driving force behind marcos’ institution of martial law in 1972. among the first to be rounded up and eradicated was the “irresponsible” press. in every country that succumbed to totalitarianism, an abusive media is among the top target.

]]> By: Joe America http://filipinovoices.com/another-example-of-philippine-daily-idiocy/comment-page-1#comment-86257 Joe America Wed, 19 Aug 2009 07:41:09 +0000 http://filipinovoices.com/?p=7396#comment-86257 BongV, Makes sense to me, but a profound constitution, please, so that people can "feel" the simple goodness of being a patriot and abiding by the rules. Not written by legislators, but by elders and scholars. Not a pile of legal mishmash that blinds everyone with blather. Joe BongV,

Makes sense to me, but a profound constitution, please, so that people can “feel” the simple goodness of being a patriot and abiding by the rules. Not written by legislators, but by elders and scholars. Not a pile of legal mishmash that blinds everyone with blather.

Joe

]]> By: nosibalasi http://filipinovoices.com/another-example-of-philippine-daily-idiocy/comment-page-1#comment-86184 nosibalasi Wed, 19 Aug 2009 03:28:47 +0000 http://filipinovoices.com/?p=7396#comment-86184 BongV whom you referring to of him and you...you used him as masculine objective singular pronoun, and you as singular/plural pronouns...anyways. The Government, as mentioned by Joe,that the Govt did not made any concrete framework in aligning the people (specially the relatives/neighbors/friends of the extremists Abu's or MILF)to Government's authority. To them the authority is their beliefs and culture,and the MILF's, the Abu Sayaff..or Nur Misuari, Eid Kabalu...The Philippine Government has Armed Forces of the Philippines...the only armed group authorized by our constitution to defend the country and the sovereignty of the Filipino people. But why MILF has their own army? why the Government allowed this to happen? and MILF for me, functioned as a private army who protects the Abu Sayaf members and their objectives. I remember when Ces Drilon was kidnapped in Mindanao, she said that one of her guards was merely a teenager. The boy get paid of PhP20,000 just to guard her but not knowing why Ces were kept seized and be watched. At para sa binatilyong iyon, ang perang ibibigay sa kanya ay napakalaki kahit na hindi niya alam kung anong panganib ang maaring maganap sa kanya doon....Ibig sabihin ganun kahirap ang buhay sa Southern Mindanao...ang mga tao ay mangmang sa kaayusan at sa batas ng Pilipinas sanhi ng kakulangan ng serbisyo ng ating Pamahalaan. BongV whom you referring to of him and you…you used him as masculine objective singular pronoun, and you as singular/plural pronouns…anyways.
The Government, as mentioned by Joe,that the Govt did not made any concrete framework in aligning the people (specially the relatives/neighbors/friends of the extremists Abu’s or MILF)to Government’s authority. To them the authority is their beliefs and culture,and the MILF’s, the Abu Sayaff..or Nur Misuari, Eid Kabalu…The Philippine Government has Armed Forces of the Philippines…the only armed group authorized by our constitution to defend the country and the sovereignty of the Filipino people. But why MILF has their own army? why the Government allowed this to happen? and MILF for me, functioned as a private army who protects the Abu Sayaf members and their objectives. I remember when Ces Drilon was kidnapped in Mindanao, she said that one of her guards was merely a teenager. The boy get paid of PhP20,000 just to guard her but not knowing why Ces were kept seized and be watched. At para sa binatilyong iyon, ang perang ibibigay sa kanya ay napakalaki kahit na hindi niya alam kung anong panganib ang maaring maganap sa kanya doon….Ibig sabihin ganun kahirap ang buhay sa Southern Mindanao…ang mga tao ay mangmang sa kaayusan at sa batas ng Pilipinas sanhi ng kakulangan ng serbisyo ng ating Pamahalaan.

]]> By: nosibalasi http://filipinovoices.com/another-example-of-philippine-daily-idiocy/comment-page-1#comment-86169 nosibalasi Wed, 19 Aug 2009 02:36:06 +0000 http://filipinovoices.com/?p=7396#comment-86169 You hit it Joe, and thanks. You hit it Joe, and thanks.

]]> By: Filo http://filipinovoices.com/another-example-of-philippine-daily-idiocy/comment-page-1#comment-86035 Filo Tue, 18 Aug 2009 19:32:46 +0000 http://filipinovoices.com/?p=7396#comment-86035 An aside: Speaking of a stronger relationship with China, I came across this article from the Anvil Business Club website that has at least one parallel with J_AG's scenario. It's entitled <i>"NOT ENOUGH CHINESE" or "NOT CHINESE ENOUGH."</i> <b>http://www.anvil.org.ph/content/view/68/44/ </b> I'm not so sure I agree, but the ideas floating around seem to converge. An aside: Speaking of a stronger relationship with China, I came across this article from the Anvil Business Club website that has at least one parallel with J_AG’s scenario. It’s entitled “NOT ENOUGH CHINESE” or “NOT CHINESE ENOUGH.”

http://www.anvil.org.ph/content/view/68/44/

I’m not so sure I agree, but the ideas floating around seem to converge.

]]> By: BongV http://filipinovoices.com/another-example-of-philippine-daily-idiocy/comment-page-1#comment-86032 BongV Tue, 18 Aug 2009 19:26:06 +0000 http://filipinovoices.com/?p=7396#comment-86032 <blockquote> The national Philippine government must, as you point out, establish the framework for such responsibility to produce good results. So far, they have not. </blockquote> The Philippine can't even produce good results for its very own indios, there is no reason to convince moros that the Philippine government will produce good results for the moros, too.  There are frameworks which can provide a lasting solution - but the <em>indios</em> are too wrapped up in their inutile 1987 constitution - oblivious that the local economic elite is frying 'em in their own lard. The <em>indio's</em> Ignorance is bliss - but this same ignorance is the <em>moro's</em> misfortune - to be lumped with the <em>indios</em>. It is high time for a new social contract - dump the 1987 Constitution and start anew.

The national Philippine government must, as you point out, establish the framework for such responsibility to produce good results. So far, they have not.

The Philippine can’t even produce good results for its very own indios, there is no reason to convince moros that the Philippine government will produce good results for the moros, too.

 There are frameworks which can provide a lasting solution – but the indios are too wrapped up in their inutile 1987 constitution – oblivious that the local economic elite is frying ‘em in their own lard. The indio’s Ignorance is bliss – but this same ignorance is the moro’s misfortune – to be lumped with the indios.

It is high time for a new social contract – dump the 1987 Constitution and start anew.

]]> By: Joe America http://filipinovoices.com/another-example-of-philippine-daily-idiocy/comment-page-1#comment-85930 Joe America Tue, 18 Aug 2009 09:51:09 +0000 http://filipinovoices.com/?p=7396#comment-85930 J_ag, Oh, no need to say "sorry". I think your general tendencies are correct, but the extreme conclusions have some "maybe" attached to them. heh And I agree that the Philippines should be focused intently upon building a strong relationship with China, but need not play it overtly against the US. Do it subtly. Two rich friends are better than one, especially if they are competing against one another for the "market". Joe J_ag,

Oh, no need to say “sorry”. I think your general tendencies are correct, but the extreme conclusions have some “maybe” attached to them. heh

And I agree that the Philippines should be focused intently upon building a strong relationship with China, but need not play it overtly against the US. Do it subtly. Two rich friends are better than one, especially if they are competing against one another for the “market”.

Joe

]]> By: Joe America http://filipinovoices.com/another-example-of-philippine-daily-idiocy/comment-page-1#comment-85929 Joe America Tue, 18 Aug 2009 09:46:00 +0000 http://filipinovoices.com/?p=7396#comment-85929 nosibalasi, You are very good at overall perspectives. The other thing that I think needs to occur is that moderate Muslims need to get aboard the "we are responsible" train, for what we have now and can have in the future, and make a choice: violence and chaos versus harmony and constructive building. The national Philippine government must, as you point out, establish the framework for such responsibility to produce good results. So far, they have not. Joe nosibalasi,

You are very good at overall perspectives. The other thing that I think needs to occur is that moderate Muslims need to get aboard the “we are responsible” train, for what we have now and can have in the future, and make a choice: violence and chaos versus harmony and constructive building. The national Philippine government must, as you point out, establish the framework for such responsibility to produce good results. So far, they have not.

Joe

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