on wow, looks like Noynoy is popular to an apathetic society. what’s Noynoy’s accomplishment in government aside from supporting ANTI GMA to change the Constitution? Noynoy has not made significant contributions to legislation except he has only authored 9 bills, none of which became laws during his 12 years in legislative branch. Noynoy also fails to manage and find solution to push for land redistribution reforms given their alleged conflict of interest ( hacienda)
The Hacienda was a given problem and yet Noynoy sleeps with it- No wonder he’s not married. He doesn’t seem to like responsibilities to others except to himself. Even at the Senate, he accomplished very little despite the fact that he has all the time in this world to be a productive public servant . He is unmarried, no wife and no children that will keep him very busy.
has anyone digged deeper about his personality? I do like him as a person but leading the country full of critics ad angry people , he may not be able to withstand all the insults once in office. I think he is risking the country to have another revolution just in case he won’t win. He can be a potential liability instead of an asset in terms of peace.
His motivation to run for office was not coming from him nor from his own decision. There were doubts , lots of them maybe. It was mainly based from the advice of others and the many people who are currently angry with their financial situation and economic situation of the country.
Noynoy can be an emotional guy who needs a wild woman in bed. lol
Article XVIII, Section 24 of the Constitution says: “Private armies and other armed groups not recognized by duly constituted authority shall be dismantled. All paramilitary forces including Civilian Home Defense Forces not consistent with the citizen armed force established in this Constitution, shall be dissolved or, where appropriate, converted into the regular force.”
The provision does not directly assign GIBO or task the AFP with the dismantling of private armies, but there is nothing to prohibit the President, as commander in chief, from telling the AFP and GIBO to do so.
In addition, the conversion of private armies to regular forces requires an increase in thebudget with legislative approval. This country is just too poor with debt above the neck of Mang Juan and Pedro.Private armies had been there since the Marcos Era. If we have to discuss command responsibility , we cannot isolate the current from the previous presidency including Cory. Congress, on the other hand, has not passed legislation that would give foundation to the Constitution’s command that private armies be dismantled. The Congress has neither defined what a private army is, nor identified who the “duly constituted authority” or “command responsibility”.GIBO is not the proximate cause nor even contributory to the fact because there are/were other government entities ahead of his term who were also responsible. When GIBO said, it is crucial to increase the budget for National Security, that to me is one smart solution.
I am 50% GIBO by the way. just to be indifferent.. lol
Sorry, leytenian, but I don’t buy it. That said, I’m not about to trash Gibo the way u routinely trash Noynoy all over FV. Some of us here r just interested in the issues.
I will say this, however:
1.) Why did Gibo never raise the alarm about private armies when he was at the DND, especially with respect to the atrocities that were happening in Maguindanao? After all, they ultimately didn’t begin recently. Yes, earlier administrations had their respective stakes as well, but the issue here is this administration. And if GMA is being held accountable for patronage politics with regards to warlords like the Ampatuans, shouldn’t Gibo be as well?
2.) Re the illegal arms, there r only two possibilities, as far as I can see: either a.) he condoned the fact that rogue military personnel were selling arms in a local black market; or b.) he DIDN’T KNOW, in which case he must have been ASLEEP. That’s what I meant by command responsibility.
3.) He’s a bar top notcher, right? So u mean to tell me that he DIDN’T KNOW that the imposition of PP 1959 (Maguindanao martial law) was unconstitutional? As u might recall, former Supreme Court Chief Justice Artemio Panganiban himself noted that the Constitutional violations of PP 1959 were pretty glaring and could be easily spotted by any freshman law student. Doesn’t this suggest complicity?
4.) Let’s talk about Ondoy for a minute: u mean Gibo failed to anticipate the Ondoy devastation (and properly react) when it is common knowledge that climate change has been triggering more rainfall and worse floods for years now?
5.) Notice how he panders to the US “terror” line, the predicate for pursuing the US agenda in resource-rich Mindanao? I gather u agree with this, since u noted elsewhere that u approve of his views on national security.
6.) In two presidential debates, Gibo said that he would focus on creating a bigger military and police force. But beyond police and military expansion, wouldn’t a more long-term solution be to address poverty and the lack of social justice in the country as a whole? As we all know, there r enormous disparities between the rich and poor in terms of access to information, education, opportunity and wealth. Why not put that money into education, health care and livelihood programs instead of on security alone?
1. the ampatuan case of murdering innocent people was not the purpose of the private armies. A perfect rebellion case for many first year students. In practice, rule of law is weak in Philippines, a first year student only learns the theory but defense and its judicial process??? Martial Law was constitutional at the time or during the time it was implemented.
2. That’s like blaming the US Defense Department for every act of torture or atrocity committed on the ground in Iraq or Afghanistan. Still, was Gibo aware and tacitly involved? Insiders know that the ammunition (which is just at 10 percent of the cache found) got there through rogue elements ( you are right) in the local military. The local military is therefore the proximate cause. If he was sleeping? Maybe but GIBO himself has confidently called for an investigation.
3. Martial Law to me was constitutional. Try searching 2 months back on FV’s pages. We had a good discussion there.
will talk about Ondoy after work. On GIBO’s sex life? well, at least he has sex life. You mean Noynoy is a virgin? lol
4. On Ondoy, there were various factors that must be taken into consideration. There was obviously a failure of local governments to implement ecological waste management ACT of 2000, the failure to preserve flood plains, the lack of waste management, budget , education and private corp participation. Given the huge population we have now, the right level for preventative education is at the Barangay and municipality level.
5. US agenda? there’s also Japan and Australia if im not mistaken even China.
6. Education, Health and Livelihood are standard visions meant for any poor country. Congress has as much responsibilities as the president to increase the budget. Any candidate or GIBO are expected to be aware of that.
Aha, so u do admit that he was asleep at the helm (“Maybe but…”)!
Rumsfeld and even Bush were considered by many human rights groups (Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, UN groups, etc, etc) to be responsible for what had happened at Abu Ghraib in Iraq. Again, it’s called command responsibility. Any leader worth his or her salt would accept that.
R u yourself a lawyer? Virtually all Filipino lawyers I have talked to (none of whom support the same candidate) have continued to insist that martial law in Maguindanao was unconstitutional. If it was, why the hastiness in ending it? Wasn’t it established just to give the rest of the Ampatuans (not Andal, Jr, who had already been tried) the charge of rebellion, which is a bailable charge?
If our population is huge and prevention is ideal, as u say, then why did Gibo backtrack on the RH bill? How do u as a woman feel about his views on population control?
Of course there r other interests in Mindanao. What I meant was that the nomenclature and thrust of the “war on terror” began in the US (during the term of Bush, Jr).
pls read my comments on step child. it might answer your question. give me time on RH bill. and can you please ask one question next time. lol. makabuang uy.
I myself is not an advocate of RH Bill. I believe in empowering women by providing them the opportunity to support themselves financially and not being dependent. When a woman has a career of her own, she can gain a higher sense of self worth that may guide her to make an infomed decision on when to have children and how many. Employment is one key to keep everybody busy instead of watching wowowee. When an individual is not busy , sex can be his/her only means of satisfaction that is for free. Contraceptives must be supplemented with education and a career. Without the supplements , the bill will serve no future result.
On GIBO backtracking the RH bill, makes perfect sense. Even if GIBO supported it, this bill would consume all the resources of the legislature and would not get passed due to firm opposition from many sectors. We are not yet a completely secular state. This RH bill has been through seven congresses since 1987. There has to be another policy that is more suitable for the underemployed filipinos. Employment can easily be generated if we invest in our national security. It will attract investments and Philippines can easily compete in the international market thru trade agreement. Peace in our nation is a marketable value and as a result will employ the many . Government receipts come largely from income tax, Evat, real estate tax, corporate taxes, rents on government properties and many more. If our budget is in surplus then all of the other policies can easily be implemented such as education, healthcare and endowments.
Policies on preventing corruption are already in place but we also need to hire more people to investigate, audit and to account. National security is not just about armed forces , protection of human rights or peacemaking but it is also about legislating a new policy for National ID. Today, the Philippines is still transacting in cash. Credits and debits from bank accounts cannot be traced. Transparency of transaction is lacking and the rule of law is weak.
It is easy for me to trust an individual who is smart and intelligent. I find GIBO the same. BTW, you are very very smart just like the few here at FV. I don’t know about the others but who cares? lol.
Can u please clarify what u mean by “national security” (“Employment can easily be generated if we invest in our national security. It will attract investments and Philippines can easily compete in the international market thru trade agreement. Peace in our nation is a marketable value and as a result will employ the many”)? U mean the war on terror leading to more trading in arms, in turn leading to greater employment? In the US, “national security” generally refers to the war on terror.
Bilateral trade agreements often put countries like ours at a disadvantage. In what way is peace actually marketable, resulting in employment — u mean through tourism? So u r advocating military expenditure and tourism as sources of economic growth??
National security is a necessity to guarantee the freedom and peace of the people, including protection of human rights. National security and its policies are different in every country. I will focus on why Peace is a marketable value thus create employment.
Peace is a precondition for attracting investors into the country. Foreign investment would only advance into the country if stability is confirmed. When there are more economic enterprises, more income-generating possibilities, more food on the table, there is always a higher level of peaceful co-existence. As academic opportunities broaden alongside a growing middle-class, we cannot also neglect the fact that rising levels of law breaking and crime might also affect the degree of tolerance of popular norms. For those countries ranked higher in peace keeping, their standard numbers of policemen varies by 2 to 5 in every 1000 population. There are more policemen in the city or where crimes were recorded very high. To solve the overwhelming problem for our national security, Philippines must invest more, hire and train more policemen and double the size of its police force. GIBO makes a lot of sense :)
These are the facts
1. On visionofhumanitydotorg, Philippines ranked 114 among 144 countries on peace building. The details are in that site. please try to check the site just in case.
2. In Mindanao alone.
On Oct 2009
A fact sheet released Monday by the regional NSCB said there are now at least 2,814 policemen providing security to Central Mindanao’s 3.9 million population. This means that every policeman in the region serves 1,386 people.
But based on Republic Act (RA) 6975 or the Department of Local Government Act of 1990, the standard police-to-population (PTP) ratio in the country is at least a policeman per every 500 individuals. The required number of police strength varies depending on the peace and order situation, population density, and actual demands of the service in a particular area, but the minimum PTP ratio, also according to RA 6975, should be one police per 1,000 persons.
To satisfy the ideal police to population ratio of 1:500 based on the RA 6975 standard, the region must enlist about 5,000 more policemen, the regional statistical office said. To comply with the minimum requirement of one police per 1,000 population, the region needs to recruit an additional 1,086 police to beef-up its current force of 2,814, it added. Also, the region’s population was growing by 3.8 percent annually from 2000 to 2007.
The rise in criminalities in the region outpaced augmentation of the police force.
How do we benefit domestically even if we don’t attract many investors initially? here’s my view.
In the US, when a president executes an order for Congress to legislate a bill like a stimulus package, for example- It means the US will invest in some kind of infrastructure that can stimulate jobs. So if Philippines will double the size of its police forces combine with education and training on the field, these new police recruits will be employed. In an economic sense, the employed policemen will return the money back to the stimulus bill ( GIBO’s national policy) by way of paying income tax.
We have nothing to lose but please remember that the Philippines is poor. To implement this policy will require collective effort from the Senate , the House and all the other executive departments. It must account , record and investigate every little detail instead of taking something in the middle?
Maybe the next ones coming out from Pulse Asia and SWS is the better ‘starting’ survey.
Having said that, spare a thought for Manny Villar who has outspent them all combined and still hasn’t seemed to break into a single digit difference with Noynoy.
The rest – Villanueva, Gordon, Madrigal, Perlas can go piss off. And the loonies – delos Reyes, Lozano, Crespo..well, they can stay for comedic effect (as if the pompom boys Adel, Gilbert, Alan Peter, and Pichay are not comic enough)
Ding, I’m a little uneasy with SWS since GMA deployed it pretty well in the 2004 elections in relation to the “Garci” ops.`And to think Mahar Mangahas is a cousin of FPJ!
As Nash says, Pulse Asia might be a better barometer…
on wow, looks like Noynoy is popular to an apathetic society. what’s Noynoy’s accomplishment in government aside from supporting ANTI GMA to change the Constitution? Noynoy has not made significant contributions to legislation except he has only authored 9 bills, none of which became laws during his 12 years in legislative branch. Noynoy also fails to manage and find solution to push for land redistribution reforms given their alleged conflict of interest ( hacienda)
The Hacienda was a given problem and yet Noynoy sleeps with it- No wonder he’s not married. He doesn’t seem to like responsibilities to others except to himself. Even at the Senate, he accomplished very little despite the fact that he has all the time in this world to be a productive public servant . He is unmarried, no wife and no children that will keep him very busy.
has anyone digged deeper about his personality? I do like him as a person but leading the country full of critics ad angry people , he may not be able to withstand all the insults once in office. I think he is risking the country to have another revolution just in case he won’t win. He can be a potential liability instead of an asset in terms of peace.
His motivation to run for office was not coming from him nor from his own decision. There were doubts , lots of them maybe. It was mainly based from the advice of others and the many people who are currently angry with their financial situation and economic situation of the country.
Noynoy can be an emotional guy who needs a wild woman in bed. lol
kawawa pa rin ang pinoy…
What about the private armies and illegal arms caches under Gibo’s watch at the DND? U know, command responsibility?
Lila
The provision does not directly assign GIBO or task the AFP with the dismantling of private armies, but there is nothing to prohibit the President, as commander in chief, from telling the AFP and GIBO to do so.
In addition, the conversion of private armies to regular forces requires an increase in thebudget with legislative approval. This country is just too poor with debt above the neck of Mang Juan and Pedro.Private armies had been there since the Marcos Era. If we have to discuss command responsibility , we cannot isolate the current from the previous presidency including Cory. Congress, on the other hand, has not passed legislation that would give foundation to the Constitution’s command that private armies be dismantled. The Congress has neither defined what a private army is, nor identified who the “duly constituted authority” or “command responsibility”.GIBO is not the proximate cause nor even contributory to the fact because there are/were other government entities ahead of his term who were also responsible. When GIBO said, it is crucial to increase the budget for National Security, that to me is one smart solution.
I am 50% GIBO by the way. just to be indifferent.. lol
and in reality, Congress defines private armies as their personal bodyguards. am I wrong or right? On the Amputuan Case, it’s a blowback.
Sorry, leytenian, but I don’t buy it. That said, I’m not about to trash Gibo the way u routinely trash Noynoy all over FV. Some of us here r just interested in the issues.
I will say this, however:
1.) Why did Gibo never raise the alarm about private armies when he was at the DND, especially with respect to the atrocities that were happening in Maguindanao? After all, they ultimately didn’t begin recently. Yes, earlier administrations had their respective stakes as well, but the issue here is this administration. And if GMA is being held accountable for patronage politics with regards to warlords like the Ampatuans, shouldn’t Gibo be as well?
2.) Re the illegal arms, there r only two possibilities, as far as I can see: either a.) he condoned the fact that rogue military personnel were selling arms in a local black market; or b.) he DIDN’T KNOW, in which case he must have been ASLEEP. That’s what I meant by command responsibility.
3.) He’s a bar top notcher, right? So u mean to tell me that he DIDN’T KNOW that the imposition of PP 1959 (Maguindanao martial law) was unconstitutional? As u might recall, former Supreme Court Chief Justice Artemio Panganiban himself noted that the Constitutional violations of PP 1959 were pretty glaring and could be easily spotted by any freshman law student. Doesn’t this suggest complicity?
4.) Let’s talk about Ondoy for a minute: u mean Gibo failed to anticipate the Ondoy devastation (and properly react) when it is common knowledge that climate change has been triggering more rainfall and worse floods for years now?
5.) Notice how he panders to the US “terror” line, the predicate for pursuing the US agenda in resource-rich Mindanao? I gather u agree with this, since u noted elsewhere that u approve of his views on national security.
6.) In two presidential debates, Gibo said that he would focus on creating a bigger military and police force. But beyond police and military expansion, wouldn’t a more long-term solution be to address poverty and the lack of social justice in the country as a whole? As we all know, there r enormous disparities between the rich and poor in terms of access to information, education, opportunity and wealth. Why not put that money into education, health care and livelihood programs instead of on security alone?
Think about it.
And, no, I have no comment whatsoever on Gibo’s sex life.
lila,
1. the ampatuan case of murdering innocent people was not the purpose of the private armies. A perfect rebellion case for many first year students. In practice, rule of law is weak in Philippines, a first year student only learns the theory but defense and its judicial process??? Martial Law was constitutional at the time or during the time it was implemented.
2. That’s like blaming the US Defense Department for every act of torture or atrocity committed on the ground in Iraq or Afghanistan. Still, was Gibo aware and tacitly involved? Insiders know that the ammunition (which is just at 10 percent of the cache found) got there through rogue elements ( you are right) in the local military. The local military is therefore the proximate cause. If he was sleeping? Maybe but GIBO himself has confidently called for an investigation.
3. Martial Law to me was constitutional. Try searching 2 months back on FV’s pages. We had a good discussion there.
will talk about Ondoy after work. On GIBO’s sex life? well, at least he has sex life. You mean Noynoy is a virgin? lol
4. On Ondoy, there were various factors that must be taken into consideration. There was obviously a failure of local governments to implement ecological waste management ACT of 2000, the failure to preserve flood plains, the lack of waste management, budget , education and private corp participation. Given the huge population we have now, the right level for preventative education is at the Barangay and municipality level.
5. US agenda? there’s also Japan and Australia if im not mistaken even China.
6. Education, Health and Livelihood are standard visions meant for any poor country. Congress has as much responsibilities as the president to increase the budget. Any candidate or GIBO are expected to be aware of that.
Aha, so u do admit that he was asleep at the helm (“Maybe but…”)!
Rumsfeld and even Bush were considered by many human rights groups (Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, UN groups, etc, etc) to be responsible for what had happened at Abu Ghraib in Iraq. Again, it’s called command responsibility. Any leader worth his or her salt would accept that.
R u yourself a lawyer? Virtually all Filipino lawyers I have talked to (none of whom support the same candidate) have continued to insist that martial law in Maguindanao was unconstitutional. If it was, why the hastiness in ending it? Wasn’t it established just to give the rest of the Ampatuans (not Andal, Jr, who had already been tried) the charge of rebellion, which is a bailable charge?
If our population is huge and prevention is ideal, as u say, then why did Gibo backtrack on the RH bill? How do u as a woman feel about his views on population control?
Of course there r other interests in Mindanao. What I meant was that the nomenclature and thrust of the “war on terror” began in the US (during the term of Bush, Jr).
U might find this interesting:
http://www.chairwrecker.com/column.php?col=674
L
we have discussed all this issue Lila 2 months ago with the others. Too busy right now to deal with an old issue. Anything new I am interested.
Take your time, leytenian — I can wait. Thanks.
Until u respond, however, I consider this to be checkmate.
Lila,
pls read my comments on step child. it might answer your question. give me time on RH bill. and can you please ask one question next time. lol. makabuang uy.
On RH BIll,
I myself is not an advocate of RH Bill. I believe in empowering women by providing them the opportunity to support themselves financially and not being dependent. When a woman has a career of her own, she can gain a higher sense of self worth that may guide her to make an infomed decision on when to have children and how many. Employment is one key to keep everybody busy instead of watching wowowee. When an individual is not busy , sex can be his/her only means of satisfaction that is for free. Contraceptives must be supplemented with education and a career. Without the supplements , the bill will serve no future result.
On GIBO backtracking the RH bill, makes perfect sense. Even if GIBO supported it, this bill would consume all the resources of the legislature and would not get passed due to firm opposition from many sectors. We are not yet a completely secular state. This RH bill has been through seven congresses since 1987. There has to be another policy that is more suitable for the underemployed filipinos. Employment can easily be generated if we invest in our national security. It will attract investments and Philippines can easily compete in the international market thru trade agreement. Peace in our nation is a marketable value and as a result will employ the many . Government receipts come largely from income tax, Evat, real estate tax, corporate taxes, rents on government properties and many more. If our budget is in surplus then all of the other policies can easily be implemented such as education, healthcare and endowments.
Policies on preventing corruption are already in place but we also need to hire more people to investigate, audit and to account. National security is not just about armed forces , protection of human rights or peacemaking but it is also about legislating a new policy for National ID. Today, the Philippines is still transacting in cash. Credits and debits from bank accounts cannot be traced. Transparency of transaction is lacking and the rule of law is weak.
It is easy for me to trust an individual who is smart and intelligent. I find GIBO the same. BTW, you are very very smart just like the few here at FV. I don’t know about the others but who cares? lol.
Thanks, leytenian!
Can u please clarify what u mean by “national security” (“Employment can easily be generated if we invest in our national security. It will attract investments and Philippines can easily compete in the international market thru trade agreement. Peace in our nation is a marketable value and as a result will employ the many”)? U mean the war on terror leading to more trading in arms, in turn leading to greater employment? In the US, “national security” generally refers to the war on terror.
Bilateral trade agreements often put countries like ours at a disadvantage. In what way is peace actually marketable, resulting in employment — u mean through tourism? So u r advocating military expenditure and tourism as sources of economic growth??
Just so I understand u correctly…
L :-)
Lila,
thank your patience…
National security is a necessity to guarantee the freedom and peace of the people, including protection of human rights. National security and its policies are different in every country. I will focus on why Peace is a marketable value thus create employment.
Peace is a precondition for attracting investors into the country. Foreign investment would only advance into the country if stability is confirmed. When there are more economic enterprises, more income-generating possibilities, more food on the table, there is always a higher level of peaceful co-existence. As academic opportunities broaden alongside a growing middle-class, we cannot also neglect the fact that rising levels of law breaking and crime might also affect the degree of tolerance of popular norms. For those countries ranked higher in peace keeping, their standard numbers of policemen varies by 2 to 5 in every 1000 population. There are more policemen in the city or where crimes were recorded very high. To solve the overwhelming problem for our national security, Philippines must invest more, hire and train more policemen and double the size of its police force. GIBO makes a lot of sense :)
These are the facts
1. On visionofhumanitydotorg, Philippines ranked 114 among 144 countries on peace building. The details are in that site. please try to check the site just in case.
2. In Mindanao alone.
On Oct 2009
How do we benefit domestically even if we don’t attract many investors initially? here’s my view.
In the US, when a president executes an order for Congress to legislate a bill like a stimulus package, for example- It means the US will invest in some kind of infrastructure that can stimulate jobs. So if Philippines will double the size of its police forces combine with education and training on the field, these new police recruits will be employed. In an economic sense, the employed policemen will return the money back to the stimulus bill ( GIBO’s national policy) by way of paying income tax.
We have nothing to lose but please remember that the Philippines is poor. To implement this policy will require collective effort from the Senate , the House and all the other executive departments. It must account , record and investigate every little detail instead of taking something in the middle?
i meant thank you your patience. :)
I dont believe in surveys. they can be maipulated.
I think that’s not the ‘starting gate’ survey.
Maybe the next ones coming out from Pulse Asia and SWS is the better ‘starting’ survey.
Having said that, spare a thought for Manny Villar who has outspent them all combined and still hasn’t seemed to break into a single digit difference with Noynoy.
The rest – Villanueva, Gordon, Madrigal, Perlas can go piss off. And the loonies – delos Reyes, Lozano, Crespo..well, they can stay for comedic effect (as if the pompom boys Adel, Gilbert, Alan Peter, and Pichay are not comic enough)
Ding, I’m a little uneasy with SWS since GMA deployed it pretty well in the 2004 elections in relation to the “Garci” ops.`And to think Mahar Mangahas is a cousin of FPJ!
As Nash says, Pulse Asia might be a better barometer…
my confidant emailed me on incorrect grammar “digged deeper “. He said, I should support Erap.
Ding, you got that SWS slide that say, in a head-to-head contest between Aquino versus VIllar, Aquino still wins?
Coming…
Push-pulling circuits are what social weather stations are, ordinarily perceived.
I certainly agree wholesale with what were said by Lila in the case of Gibo. Nothing veers away from those points raised. Do I second them?
Hmmm, Lila, you find the pieces of that conspiracy chair/truth wrecker chap interesting?
Better stick with Lito ‘Dan Brown’ Banayo, who like MB, has a live mole at the right places (wink).