Matapos ang nakaraang unang Countdown to 2010 an ANC Leadership last May 11, 2009 na ginawa sa Leong Hall sa Ateneo de Manila University ay ginawa naman ngayon (June 5, 2009) ang ikalawang leadership forum sa School of Economics sa University of the Philippines Diliman kasama sina Senator Loren Legarda, former President Joseph Ejercito Estrada, Makati Mayor Jejomar Binay at Metro Manila Development Authority Chairman Bayani Fernando.
The shocking revelation
Since the 1st ANC Leadership Forum sa Ateneo, unang inimbitahan si Senator Ping Lacson para maging parte sa panelist pero nagdecline sya, at muling nagdecline sa sa pangalawang inbitasyon pero nagbigay siya ng statement na mag-wiwithdraw siya planong tumakbo sa presidential race sa 2010.
Nagbigay sila ng kanyang statement at narito ang ilang mga points sa mga sinabi niya:
• Ang kahirapan at ang kawalan ng serbisyo pangkalusugan, edukasyon at security ng nananayan ay hindi mabibigyang lunas ng mga pamumudmod ng mga tulong mula sa mga pulitiko sa panahong papalapit ang halalan.
• The country’s problem is government — bad government.
• If we hope to solve the problem of most of the 90 million Filipinos we should set government right.
• Correcting government in not come easy, if it does not start with the leader himself.
• The poor is deluded in believing that throwing candies and giving instant noodles or occasional health in distress is the be all and end all of public service.
• Mas mahalaga ang integredad sa isang tulad kong inihalal ng bayan upang maglingkod ng tapat at walang halong pag-iimbot.
• Magkaisa po tayong tumulong sa isang taong batay sa karanasan at sa ugali ay alam nating hindi magnanakaw at hindi gagamitin ang kapangyarihan hiram para magpakasasa sa pansariling interes. (on supporting a president chosen by wise voting)
Para kay Loren Legarda, partly ikinagulat niya ito dahil na iintindihan niya ang pinagdadaanan ni Lacson, ayon sa kanya ay hindi pa rin tatalikuran ni Ping ang nasimulan niyang mga adhikain at programa. Habang nalungkot ang dating Presidente Joseph Ejercito Estrada sa pag-withdraw sa presidential race dahil sa kanya ay isa si Ping sa mga qualified candidate para maging presidente na siyang noon Philippine National Police (PNP) chief pa ito ay nakatulong siya sa pagsugpo ng krimen sa bansa. While Makati Mayor Jejomar Binay says he respect the observation of Ping in terms of governance same with MMDA Chairman Bayani Fernando assures his respect to the decision of Senator Lacson.
Narito naman ang mga puntos mula sa mga miyembro ng panel:
Former President Joseph Ejercito Estrada
• Hindi pa siya nagdedeclare na tatakbo sa 2010 election.
• Sinusubukan niyang pag-isahin ang opposiyon na magkaroon ng isang presidential candidate para oposisyon para hind imaging hati hati ang boto ng tao.
• “Everybody can change his mind” (On the topic on not running again for the position).
• It is very clear that they force me out of the office and everybody believes I’m ousted (On the issue of his ousting).
• I was not convicted because of 4 Billion; I was convicted because of receiving commission from jueteng.
• He doesn’t believe in the justice process during his trial but he needs undergo the process because that’s the only way.
• Hindi ko maiiwan ang milyun milyong Filipino, ang mga masang Filipinong bumoto sa akin. (noong he was offered to leave the country after stepping down)
• I still believe in my program of government. (If he became the president again).
• I only want to amend the economic provision of the nation on land ownership (During his administration, on the topic of amending the constitution).
• His parents, his mother are his greatest influence in life.
Senator Loren Legarda
• Maliwanag sa alam ko ang problema ng bansa, at handa akong tumulong para maresolba ang mga ito. Kung bibigyan ako ng pagkakataon na pag uusapan ko ang mga gagawin ko sa ating bansa. 1. Good governance, transparency ang accountability ang kailangan sa bansa, 2. Kailangan ng sustainable at equitable socio economic development, 3. Pagbigay ng proteksyon sa ating fragile environment, 4. Cultural renaissance, kailangan magkaroon ng pride ang Filipino. (On the question if she’s running for 2010).
• Walang atrasan ang paglilingkod sa bansa, nasa ICU situation.
• If given a chance to became a president sa agriculture siya magfo-focus para masustentuhan ang pangangailangan ng bansa sa pagkain.
• Hindi dapat baguhin (culture), ngunit kailangan mas bigyan focus dahil we are rich in culture. “Cultural renaissance will give the youth right away the pride who we are”
• Walang bagay na hindi nating kaya gawin kung tayo sama sama, tulong tulong at may may lider tayong titingalain natin, isang lider na hindi magnanakaw, hindi gagamit ng kaban ng gobyerno para sa pansariling kapakanan.
• I’m definitely in the opposition (on the question where is she on the political spectrum)
Makati Mayor Jejomar Binay
• He is willing to slide down kung may napiling iba ang oposisyon na maging presidente.
• My advocacy is having a strong local government. (If he become a president)
• Hindi kailangan i-revise ang constitution dahil ang problema at nasa enforcer at enforcement ng constitution.
• Give the power to the officials who are nearest to the people. (On the topic of empowering local government).
• “Aansenso ang bansa sa tamang pamamahala”
MMDA Chairman Bayani Fernando
• Ang hindi mo magagawa sa Marikina ay hindi mo magagawa sa Pilipinas
• Ako na ang karapat dapat (maging presidente) dahil ako lang ang nangahas mag declare na kumandidato, at ang Kampi ay wala pa. (On the topic of marriage of Lakas-Kampi CMD)
• I am above the law, I am abide the law (He mistakenly changes the term abide from abide)
• He supports constitutional convention, but he is still on the presidential system.
• The government should use public money for election, para wala nang babawi.
• I know the good moves of the administration and the wrong moves (on the question if he supports the administration)
• His closest adviser is his wife.
On the issue of lack of jobs and migration
Jejomar Binay – Migrants leave the country not of choice but out of necessity.
Loren Legarda – There is no problem of migration, it is part of globalization.
Joseph Ejercito Estrada – We should focus on agriculture.
Bayani Fernando – Para matugunan natin ang problema natin sa unemployment kailangan natin gawin ay make local, buy local and export.
Like on the 1st ANC Leadership Forum, I wanted to record this part and wanted the readers na kayo mismo ang makarinig ng mga mensahe nila punto por punto pagdating sa issue ng Reproductive Health Bill at ang issue ng corruption ng Arroyo Administration) Please bare with the audio again it was recorded through my mobile phone.
Tulad ng naunang leadership forum, narinig natin ang mga ideas at principles ng mga panelist, narito ang konting observation mula sa mga sinabi nila:
Bayani Fernando – Sadly it seems hindi siya prepare sa mga questions na binabato sa kanya and he ends up mali mali or malabo ang mga sinasabi niya.
• Loren Legarda – Idealistic ito ang ipinakita niya sa forum, na kung saan gusto niyang pagtuunang pansin ang kultura at environmental resources, pero the way she says it parang nakikita na rin natin ang mga bill na ipapasa niya kung sakaling maging pangulo siya ng bansa.
• Jejomar Binay – De-centralize government and empowering the local government, if mangyayari ito handa ba ang administrasyon niyang bantayan lahat at tutukan ang mga issue ng over use of power at corruption.
• Joseph Ejercito Estrada – May karapatan magbago ng isip ang isang tao, pero still hindi pa rin klaro para sa lahat kung tatakbo ba siya o hindi sa 2010 election.
Marami silang nasabi gayun din mga adhikain nila para sa bansa ang tanging tanong lang nating lahat katulad ng naunang leadership forum, sa mga sinabi nila kaya ang mga gagawin nila, alin ang babaguhin nila at alin ang mga inilista lang nila sa hangin, isang maselang proseso ang election na kailangan nating bantayan ang bawat kibot at kilos ng mga tatakbo para sa posisyon dahil nakasalalay sa kanila ang anim na taong kinabukasan ng bansa at kinabukasan natin at ng mga pamilya natin.
Isang paalala lang ng may akda ay makiisa tayo sa prosesong ito, magparehistro para maging botante, mamulat sa mga issue ng bayan, bumoto ng tama at may paninindigan, at magbantay sa halalan hanggang sa may maupo at patuloy pa rin sa kanyang panunungkulan.
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Assessments, especially of this nature, are largely subjectival.
But properly backed up by substantive knowledge of the background of the presidentiables, will necessarily change the whole ‘subjectival assessment’.
This is the weakness of the ordinary minds when they watch TV – one error in a word used, creates unprecedented catastrophe.
Just one word.
What we could have down is go out of that venue and check reality because largely everything must be objective. There is an objective world out there that irrespective of our subjective interpretation, stands as permanent.
Ganon lang ka simple un.
I think you meant to say “Assessments, especially of this nature, are largely subjective“. :D
and “what we could have (DONE)”, not “down”.
benigno, i think this is not just a simple carelessness. it reflects a fuzzy intellect, a muddled mind.
I dunno about this guy. And I thought The Ca_t was pretty bad. This one set a new standard… ;)
not to defend the ca t, benigno, (she’s more than capable of defending herself) the ca t usually makes a lot of sense and know-how. this one compares with leytenean, only worse.
yeah, Cat is OK.
@flow…
minor correction: its “School of Economics” :)
Dear Presidentiables,
It is with much honor and humility for me to have the chance to express all my concerns and be able to bring to your attention what I wanted to say all these years about the status of our country. I will be perpetually grateful if this letter will find its way to any of your desks.
But first let me warn you that this novel of mine is quite lengthy due to the collectivity (with compounding interests) of observations I have had over the years (which at least will give you a clue about my age!). Shall we start?
We all know that the root core of all the problems that the Philippines is facing is not a result of the kind of politicians we have, but on the mentality and culture (and its twisted interpretations) we have and practiced for as long as time permits us to. Whoever will sit as President of our republic needs to bear in mind that solving poverty, unemployment, underemployment, corruption, red tape, incompetence, ignorance, inefficiencies- are all icing on the cake, like pruning a tree we all intend to kill. The solution is staring at us right in the face – in order to prevent other macro social dysfunctions we have to mend the way of thinking of the very basic institution of society, which is the family.
More and more Filipinos (sad to say) are increasingly becoming immoral everyday, as a result of weak moral values at home. I applaud the efforts of former president Fidel V. Ramos, when he tried to introduce moral recovery program in the academic curriculum through values education and values extension subjects. But because of “ningas kugon” – it was only good while it lasted. Besides teachers can only impart the moral laws within the confines of the classroom, beyond that boundary including the homes – students are on their own.
And how is this relative to the monstrous crises we face now? Let us look into the typical Filipino family……
a) Parents prefer to have more and more children by the “ingenious” belief that more children mean more money in the future. The result – overpopulation. We are rocking the boat where the capacity of our economy to balance the Law of Supply and Demand is in the bridge. The more mouths we need to feed, the more produce we need to generate and if this is not enough – we import! – Which is more costly?
b) Parents demand that their children are obligated to work for the whole family including feeding and sending younger siblings to school as a manifestation of “Utang na Loob”. The result – our present labor force becomes exploited milking cows of their own kin! And worst, if they do not deliver, they are considered outcasts! That’s why more and more of our graduates prefer to go abroad, not because the salary in the Philippines is too meager for themselves but because they are duty-bound to support the entire Barangay!
I once attended a funeral service where the eldest son of a family was the one who passed away. The mourning mother was crying like crazy, not of bereavement but because she claims she will lose the 20,000 pesos “sustento” every month that her dead son used to send her.
Our OFWs are not picking roses and chocolates abroad – they are crucified not only by physical torture but emotional as well. I’m sorry to say that I don’t see them as heroes but a catalyst of slur to our government’s inability to provide opportunity in professional growth. So now every time I chance upon a crying parent of a dead OFW on T.V. I can’t help but think that it’s not because of grief but because of………………
c) Parents are in denial that there is such a thing as “for the best interest of the child” in choosing the kind of school they should enroll their children in and the choice of career in life. How many times have we heard this dialog – “Ako ang ama/ina, ako ang masusunod, dapat narsing para makapag-abroad kaagad”? Even to the choice of spouses for their children. Some parents make it a career out of looking for rich partners (or the ones that are working for the government – attached or otherwise) for their children so that the entire family will be secured. The result – the sense of value of dignity and respect for oneself is shattered. A person who does not have self respect can not demand respect from others as well. Is this the kind of tradition we intend to pass on to the future generations? A generation that is always at the mercy of others’ compensation? At the expense of other people? A kind of country at the clemency of other countries?………… Can you connect the dots?
d) Parents do not encourage co-curricular activities and support their children’s unique capabilities, talents and special skills as it is considered time consuming and a waste of money. In the large-scale scenario, isn’t this also the exact collective mentality our government has for gifted Filipinos like the one who designed the moon buggy and the one who invented the fluorescent bulb? The result – These Filipinos as we know, sold the rights of their inventions to other countries, and then the latter in turn sells it back to us at a more “convenient” price and benefiting hefty profits for themselves. Why can’t we do that for ourselves? Whatever happened to those who invented cars and jeepneys that run on water alone? We could have solved a lot of problems like; our dependence (and addiction) to other countries’ oil; our passion for global warming and declining economy; and of course saved a lot of money buying air time to debate and point fingers as to who should be blamed.
e) Children are being taught at home how to get ahead of others, no matter what it takes. The result – red tape, “padrino” system (that’s why we have people working in positions where they are not even eligible for, or worst – did not even pass the required examinations and qualifying tests) “under the table” (in cash – minimum of Php 60,000 in applying for certain positions in some government agencies; or in kind – ranging from sala set to a reservation in a motel + the company of an escort service) for the speedy flow of one’s papers. Is it too tough for you to take in? Too “rated R”? Perhaps I can give you a more “parental guidance” kind of actual example;
One time my eight year old son and I were cuing towards the cashier at one particular bookstore. Suddenly, lo and behold there was a middle-aged woman who swiftly inserted in the line; nudging and pushing her elbows so she can successfully squeeze herself into place right in front of us! (are you taken aback so far? No?) So my irate son quickly uttered loudly “mama, why is it that some Filipino adults don’t know how to follow rules?” Impatiently in the same tone of voice I answered him, saying “son, not all Filipinos are cultured!”, but the woman did not even budge and acted as if nothing was going on (are you flabbergasted now? Ok……). It was only when the woman’s turn to pay at the counter came, that I realized – she was wearing the uniform of a public school teacher!!!!! (What about now, are you already appalled?)
On the outer “dermis” of this core is the quality of education we have. The academic curriculum in the elementary and secondary levels have undergone not only a complete make over but “went under the knife” (plastic surgery or shall we say liposuction) for countless of times that instead of strengthening the foundations – Math, English and Science, we have stripped these subjects of their essence to sustain the equation- 2 years preschool + 6 years primary education + 4 years secondary education + 4 years college education = 1 domestic helper abroad? In addition, we have shifted from English to Filipino to English to Taglish and back to English as our medium of instruction. No wonder a high school graduate in the 50’s could easily out verbalize a call center agent in the present- and yes, in fluent formal English. A teacher at my son’s school once argued with me that speaking English is not important. If this is true then what is the fuzz about the extensive efforts in training college graduates and professionals in the language simply to land a job? Meanwhile bear with me in taking a peek at what our schools can offer our children……..
a) A curriculum suited to work menial jobs abroad.
b) Reference books that have equal number of typographical errors with the incentives (ie…cash, gifts, trips abroad) that their publishing companies offer the school.
c) Library areas which are a little bigger than the amenity block (its toilet in the common lingua– my friend!)
d) Library facilities that offer tons of paper pages, carbon dated way back to the time of the Philippine Independence.
e) Overworked yet underpaid teachers, teaching subjects that are not their field of specialization.
f) Misplaced teachers (usually in the private schools) where a B.S.E. graduate occupies the position of a B.E.Ed. vacancy.
g) School Administrators (private schools again) with little or no education administration background at all.
h) A campus culture that is either too “smart” for the elite or too plain for the underprivileged.
And the list goes on and on and on…….that I need to stop here, because even as I am enumerating on paper, I am already panting mentally (as if that is possible).I firmly believe that a society is like a building, for it to withstand the forces of nature, it should have a strong foundation and the foundation of every society are its children.
After all details have been scribbled down, I only have but one question to ask each one of you; How do you intend to iron out and re-direct the mentality of our fellow Filipinos towards a more hopeful and moral future?
Marissa
Housewife & mother
I apply the dignity test. Barak Obama is the most dignified American president to come along since perhaps FDR. Maybe before that.
Which of this group of Philippine presidential aspirants do I see having the dignity, intelligence and honor to stand side by side with Obama and represent the Philippines as an equal?
Former President Estrada? Obama would never agree to meet with him.
Senator Legarda? Dignified and projects a good “new Philippines” image, but lacks seasoning as an “executive”, seasoning as a leader. Obama would meet with her, however, as her baggage is light and she is not so stained.
Makati Mayor Jejomar Binay? Good manager, but carries with him the “old Philippines” stigma of corruption and nepotism. No broad national clout, much less international. Obama would wait and see how things played out before deciding if he would meet or not.
Metro Manila Development Authority Chairman Bayani Fernando? Same boat as Binay. Same Obama reaction.
Villar, Puno and the priest are out, by my book. The only three left standing for me are Gordon, Roxas and Teodora. All three are a tad wobbly, and a lot depends on the campaigns they run.
Just pondering . . . can’t even vote . . .
pardon the echo post
Joe
The only three left standing for me are Gordon, Roxas and Teodora. All three are a tad wobbly, and a lot depends on the campaigns they run.
Of the three, am inclined to go for Gordon, followed by Teodoro. Mar Roxas does not strike me as “presidential” – he has been around for too long and has played it “too safe”.
You confirmed my sense on Roxas. Any others I should be watching, you think?
Joe
Joe, Joe, Joe.
You know I never called you a nazi. You are now making blatant lies. No need for that.
A “dignity test”? Huh. OK. Highly subjective and it removes virtually all room for discussion/debate.
By your “book”, you also reject Villar, Puno and “the priest” (so you don’t know who he is, his background, his politics, his “block” of voters?). But Villar and Puno are two highly respected, extremely high-level veterans who have dealt with foreign leaders/representatives for many years.
Eh, your a just writing a diary, not debating facts and issues. And your grasp of the facts and issues continues to seem weak.
Why don’t you ask some penetrating questions instead of offering opinions/feelings/shots in the dark based on flimsy knowledge?
this is the philippines, joe. keep obama to yourself. a good number of americans (in millions) don’t think of him as you do. in fact, many who have made the mistake of voting for him are now reaping the fruit of their mistake. save your judgment of the man at least till the end of his first term. i bet, he will be a single-term president, although he could be a “president of the universe” the way he is now campaigning all over the world (never failing to apologize for the “bad things” his country has done in the past).
i’m still not convinced that you are who you say you are. your rather unnatural interest in philippine politics and your judgmental tone (especially your condescending reference to “the priest”) tells a lot about your being not just a stranger strolling along in this blog.
Heh, you calling me a liar, Ben? (I know you are not; you just wonder about my agenda.) And it is better than the last guy who called me a Nazi and an eater of BS. Below is a note I did for him:
As for the tone of my notes, I confess to having American arrogance (born of confidence and achievenemt) and a bluntness common of old age. Occasionally my words are not smooth, as in “priest” or “islands”.
Joe
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In a nutshell, Reality, I live in the Philippines and my son is Filipino. I am for a stable and growing Philippines, free of corruption, as corruption robs the economy of its vitality. I am for the creation of jobs by promoting five world-class industries: trade, agribusiness, mining, tourism, and tech services (call centers). I am for the ending of nepotistic hiring in government, as it destroys career path “ambition” that drives corporate-style productivity. I am for government investment in high-value programs such as modern ports, and not for programs such as farms for roads that do not return good “national” value. I am for independence and riddance of colonial thought and action, but also for more robust relations with countries such as the US, China, Korea. I am for a better balance between births to the number of jobs the economy can create. I am against riots in the streets unless the oppressors become truly oppressive. I am not a lemming, following others blindly off the cliff, I don’t eat BS, and I know a cavalier insult when I see it.
I recommend you drop the name calling and stick with issues. I’m interested in what a businessman in the Philippines thinks about many things. Customs policies, landowning policies, what presidential candidate is best for business, etc.
I’m not interested in you trying to indoctrinate me any more than I am interested in the NPR attempting same.
I am interested in problem solving.
Joe
Ben, regarding your comment that I should “keep Obama to myself”, I trust you are not saying that I don’t have freedom of expression unless it fits your pre-defined criteria as to what is appropriate? I need to pass my posts by you before publishing, perhaps? Or you are saying Filipinos don’t need to consider how Americans think? Or the French or Singaporeans or anyone? Just go it alone?
You don’t have to use Obama for the “dignity” test. Use any foreign leader you believe is forthright and dignified. Then imagine a Philippine presidential candidate in the same room. Does it fit? Does Estrada represent the Philippines well in your imagined meeting?
The point is how to select presidents, not whether or not Obama is a good president.
If you want a thug for office, use the ruling junta of Myanmar as your comparative. Lacson and Estrada perform better than Gordon.
Or use UP n Grad’s stink test. It is instructive, too.
It is a technique for problem solving. Nothing more. So don’t get your briefs in a bunch . . . heh heh
Joe
benigno,
I sure appreciate you’re trying to correct, however more erroneously, on the word ‘subjectival’ as used in my comment.
While your suggestion of the word ‘subjective’ will still be correct, the word ‘subjectival’ would carry stronger emphasis.
Why benign, haven’t you heard of ‘subjectival ratings’ when a superior rates a subordinate? Assessments are used in this context, too.
Primer:
I looked up subjectival in merriam-webster – here’s the reply I received
Tumbok.
An attempt at creating a new word?
Word is a slang…from Bayani Fernando.Subjectivise the Film
Festival Funds as gift, or honorarium…
Flow,
It’s a great thing that you somehow document for the readers of FV the more salient points taken up in that academic forum.
Indeed, there is a universal awareness of BIG BAD GOVERNMENT – what of – corruption traced right at the very doorstep of the presidency flowing down to the lower tiers of the bureaucracy.
I then remember what BF has to say on this. He believes that if the next president has the political will, then all those under him will – follow suit. Truly, everyone believes in an accountable government – the corrupt and the incompetent must have no business in governance.
Just curious, do you really think BF does not understand the word “abide” ior “above”?
There is awareness about BIG BAD GOVERNMENT.
But there is no wareness about the IDIOTS WHO VOTE FOR CANDIDATES THAT MAKE UP BIG BAD GOVERNMENT – WHERE’S THE AWARENESS ON BIG-NUMBERED-LOW IQ-3RD WORLD ASIAN TRASH FILIPINO VOTERS??
BF understand the word abide or above. Abide by an easy “lusot”
by calling raiding of Film Festival Funds as gifts, or honorarium.
Above the law, as he answered in the last ANC debate.
bong,
Is that your own pair of shoes you’re wearing my friend?
Couldn’t that be of Renato Pacifico’s?
benign,
It is also like you telling me if I can find the word podcast in the Webster’s. And many other words that an abridged dictionary can have limited carrying capacity with.
If I may be allowed to expound on BF’s idea of – “make local (product), buy local (the product), export (the product)”.
This is an explanation of his formula called “workplace economics”.
By this he means that if the manufacturers are the producers themselves, then products otherwise sold on the shelf or stores, would be significantly cheaper.
In short, if we can produce some products that multinationals produce, we might as well be the producers ourselves.
Primer:
That’s nothing knew – that’s the import-substitution policy of Carlos Garcia.
I have nothing against buying products made locally, provided the quality is not LOUSY.
I will not buy LOUSY products for the sake of a personality cult – that’s STUPID.
Hey, lumnang tugtugin na ang alam mo sa export impot economics.
Absolutely, it’s all mine – tingnan mo na lang yung mga congressmen – isang Command lang – sunod agad ang mga GUNGGONG…
a government of GUNGGONGs… by GUNGGONGs.. for GUNGGONGs..
“It’s gone from those ballots being physical documents that anybody can look at and read, being counted in plain open sight, to those documents being turned into digital ephemeral data and being counted inside a black box machine on proprietary software”
Governments are installing computerized voting systems with no paper record to verify accuracy. Elections will be controlled by companies that do not allow voters to inspect their software. If vote counting becomes privatized, there may be no way to get it back. High-tech vote fraud is already a reality.
The ANC Debate is like a Quality Control for all Presidential
Aspirants. It will show those who are ABLE And are UNABLE
Aspirants. It distinguishes those who really have the QUALITIES
from those who do not have any potentials or qualiities.
The Aspirant have to answer questions. Not choosen questions. No
scripted answers. THEY HAVE TO THINK ON THEIR FEETS.It is here you
can look deeply in the intentions of every candidate. Fishes are
hooked by their mouths. You can hook any pretending candidate on
this forum. If he or she has some dishonest thoughts. you can examine
his or her answers to the questions.
but what in the world is erap doing there? to stand as a monument to the hopeless stupidity of the people who allowed him to be there?
How many of the candidates brazenly broke the rules of time allotment? Erap just laughed it off and justified his infringements by saying he was using Lacson’s allocation.
Erap openly acts as if he is above the law.
He hasn’t changed.
Some educated people throw serious accusations around without any proof, but then they embrace a known, proven, corrupt ex-con.
Unreal.
Editors’ League at work – wow cum editor.
Surely, down must be done – until however, an editing mechanism is in place.
Why can’t you wait that such be installed? Make a fuss out of nothing at all. Poor, pittance.
computer can help you spell. it can’t help you to think.
Gloria Arroyo and her conspirators are preparing for another round.
They are endorsing the CON ASS Bill to the Senate. The General of
the Armed Forces must not take sides. This is very dangerous situation.
We urge all soldiers in the Armed Forces not to implement
the will of a would be Dictator Arroyo. Soldiers must protect the
Constitution. If they find any Officer implementing the orders of
Gloria Arroyo for Martial Law or CHA CHA. They must not implement
it. Arroyo and her conspirators are determined to stay in power. We have to match their determination with power, if that is the case.
It is already a Standoff for Gloria Arroyo against the people of the
Phillipines.
In the French Jacobin Revolution. The soldiers slaughtered their
officers. The French people slaughtered the whole Swiss Guard of
Louis VI. THE French people were just armed with pitch forks.
Same as in the Russian revolution. The soldiers did not follow
the Tsars officers. The soldiers killed their officers.
This is a nightmare scenario for the Philippines. Gloria Arroyo is
playing with fire. Surely, she and her family will not survive, if
she wants this scenario.
I am not like you who spent hours before posting a nonsensical comment which he believes is a fabulous one. That no one argues with you except me shows how deep your token nonsense is.
I just hope you are now reading how I correct some articles here for obvious grammatical flaws. Yours will soon be one of them. You can’t even post a blog so yet – puro ka porma. I think in the end, the one with a kultado ang utak, it is no other than you.
I am just throwing the stone back to you, matigas ang ulo mo.
Marami na rin namang (sorry I am not conversant with Tagalog)naging issues with much legal implications dito sa FV.
And none of these, you have really advanced or introduced.
How indeed, the whole idea of “death extinguishing a crime” is discussed entirely out of its legal groove. Mabuti pa ung isa, the opinion which he did not even claim to the correct one, argues more clearly.
Among lawyers, just like in bloggers, there are those who are stupid. Your view is stupid, not necessarily you.
We will hang you with your Patrons on the day of reckoning. You are
as rotten as them.
Toro,
So you are espousing violence and threatening people, telling them that you will hang them?
Why? Because they have different views than you?
Sounds like it’s YOU that is the murderous dictator type.
“That’s nothing knew – that’s the import-substitution policy of Carlos Garcia.
I have nothing against buying products made locally, provided the quality is not LOUSY.
I will not buy LOUSY products for the sake of a personality cult – that’s STUPID.”
The word ‘nothing knew’ should read ‘new’, am I correct? That’s a rhetorical, don’t answer it.
eto men, mas magandang reply:
copy-paste na kasi laos na strategy na kasi yang import substitution.
The import substitution strategy has certain strong points: Firstly, in developing countries there are always large domestic markets for manufactured goods, so developing an import subsitution industry involves a low degree of risk. Secondly, for developing countries, to protect local industries against foreign competition is easier than forcing developed countries to lift trade barriers against manufactured goods from developing countries.
However, this strategy also meets with difficulties: Firstly, bad management and technology, and protectionism usually lead to low product quality and high production cost because of a lack of improvements. So it’s difficult to require local industries to supply high-quality substitutes for imports. Moreover, in small countries with small domestic industries, carrying out the import substitution strategy is no easy task. Secondly, a lack of capital and new technology has made local industries failed to meet diversified tastes of customers, and has made imported goods cheaper than locally-made counterparts.
The export-oriented strategy also has both the pros and cons. In developing countries, low personal income makes the domestic market less attractive, so aiming at larger foreign markets seems to be a good solution which could help to: (1) create more jobs and stabilize socio-political life, and (2) bring in more foreign exchange needed for importing new technologies and increasing manufacturing output.
However, countries adopting this strategy meet with a lot of difficulties in gaining a foothold in the world market which is relatively stable and is controlled by more reliable suppliers from developed countries. In addition, developed countries are experts in protecting their labor-intensive industries against products from developing countries with better comparative advantages.
Hi Sir Primer,
I suggest for you to watch tonight the replay of the 2nd ANC Leadership Forum on ABS-CBN later 10:30 or 11 PM makikita nyo po kung paano magsalita si Bayani in terms of abide, and use of public funds and other things na sinabi niya na mapapailing ka
Thanks for the correction Gabby
Or the link where I can view it for myself?
The funny thing about Bayani Fernando is that he was not able to articulate himself as he would have wanted as I would assume during that forum. He made blunders which gave us a laugh. I myself took a second look to check if I heard “above the law” over “abide by the law”.
But maybe we should also put into the consideration what the man has done before we grill him for what I would say was probably just jitters from being put in the same arena as former President Estrada (who actually made a lot of sense aside from giving me a laugh…”ayos ba?”–haha!).
Ika nga ni-BF he is not a talker. He is a man of action.
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My thoughts on the other participants:
Jojo Binay – I have a bias for executives rather that legislators so Binay impressed me not just with his plans but also with how well he articulates himself. The only downside to his claim on the success of Makati is that it was the Ayala’s that made Makati as rich and beautiful as it is today. Sadly, bumabaha pa rin in many areas of his city.
A note on his comment on the changes that need to be done to the constitution as asked repeatedly by Ricky Carangang, there is no need to change the constitution as his idea of more autonomy is already in there. It only needs to be implemented.
ERAP – The man makes sense. I enjoyed his participation.
Loren Legarda – Her experience as a broadcaster makes her an excellent speaker. And maybe a little self-glorifying.
On another side note I felt that Cheche Lazaro was a little rude as a host not knowing the proper decorum when address such officials. That’s just my personal opinion.
Bayani, I appreciate your remarks on your posts today. This is the kind of “real world” insight I wanted to find here on FV, but instead get a lot of grammarians focused on this nit or that. I appreciate your observation that Mr. Fernando is not a talker, but is more of an executive, action oriented person. Such people are not always popular, alas, but effective behind the desk — a place where Ms. Arroyo is rarely found, I think.
My main concern is that his wife followed him as mayor. I have a very hard time with “entrenched aristocrats” who – it would appear – generally perform poorly; the notion that the family has an inside lane to office really troubles me. It is a form of corruption, blocking the career opportunities for hard-working people below, and turning them, as well, to corruption.
How do you think BF will be received on the international stage?
What is his posture with regard to the VFA?
Thanks.
Joe