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Debating what to debate

Benigno, the Platform, plez advocate extraordinaire, might have exposed his vacuity as well as his phoney pet project on missing altogether the insights proffered by J_AG at mlq3’s. In his signature punditry, J_AG has posted:

The time will come when a more enlightened citizenry will outnumber the smaller vested interests that control the electoral process. But it will be in a mass movement that will affect changes in the electoral process itself.

That movement need not be based on numbers alone but with a critical mass of committed engaged citizens. Armchair revolutionaries need not apply.

The left shot itself in the foot and it continues to shoot itself in the foot. They have the correct analysis but do not have the solutions. Events will create the leadership for good or bad. Elections will not do it.

I am still kinda hoping that the little one makes a grab for authoritarian rule.

We need something to shake up this country again… What appears to be hubris on the part of GMA will naturally consolidate and hopefully a nemesis will arise.

Authoritarian rule from the right is more likely to happen. During the height of the Great Depression the right in the U.S. responded with massive reforms of the system to prevent the extreme left from taking over. There is no truly leftist party in the U.S.

The capitalists were saved and there grew a more secure institutionalized system where private capital and government integrated.

This version of rightist dirigist system still prevails in all the advanced economies of the world.

The Chinese model is one such example. The CCP is creating their own private capitalist to co-exist with parts of the state capitalist model.

It is not a proletariat based dictatorship. It is slowly transforming itself into a more dirigist model like the other more advanced economies of the world

Benigno has feigned to follow, but what’s come out of his usual riposte was plain naiveté. He was quick to point out the “lack of any meaningful platform among our crop of ‘candidates’” and state his thesis: presidentiables in the Philippines, or their political parties, actually stand for nothing.

Contrary to Benigno’s simple-minded pretext, mainstream politicians in the Philippines, presidentiables or not, invariably all stand for something, i.e., for conserving “market” and (procedural) “democracy.” Indeed, they are not expected to question the legitimacy of the dominant segment of the system in place or press for radical change of the current resource distribution. They debate, sometimes ferociously, but only within the range framed by their superordinates. Contained debates of such nature reinforce the system in place and ultimately are damaging to a people’s emancipatory project.

Now, what I understand J_AG is saying is that the era of fundamentalist market ideology is getting out of fashion fast even as the nanny State, in the French dirigisme tradition (a principally capitalist economy with strong government intervention), gets the upper hand “in more advanced economies of the world.” On the other hand, emergent global economy like China while obviously profiting from the phenomenon of the market is radically reinventing the capitalist wheel in the dirigist model.

In Framing the issues beyond personalities, a post of mine published by inq7.net on March 8, 2001 in connection with the May 2001 elections, I had occasion to expound “how certain issues could be framed for public debate away from the images of the candidates” in the following manner:

In other political societies like the United States or Great Britain, the starting framework is often the political party ideologies. In the US, for example, Republicans have a more market oriented philosophy than Democrats who favor government regulation of the economy. Hence, Republicans draw more support from business interests as well as from Protestants and professionals while democrats have disproportionate following from labor, blacks and urban dwellers. Similarly, the Britain’s Labor Party advocates for social welfare while the Conservative Party pursues laissez-faire agenda. There are of course many instances where political parties echo each other’s platform since many voters are either estranged ideologically or they find themselves at the center, in which case the image of the individual candidates would then matter. In any event, voters are at least presented with some threshold policy alternatives.

In the Philippines, major political parties are still highly ideologically identical; hence, electoral debates are mainly focused on the candidates’ personalities and fitness for office rather than on substantively differentiating public issues. In the towns and provinces, political contests have remained to be the same old squabbles of competing feudal politicians. But the success of some not rooted in political dynasties, a number of them are entertainment and sports celebrities, could be seen as nascent signs of shifting loyalties of the masses to traditional power and wealth. Erap could have been packaged in line with this apparent break from established allegiances.

Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo’s opening salvo two days after she was swept into power declaring that “democracy and the market will be the guiding principles of (her) domestic and foreign policies” has so far not been met headlong by any opposition party. In our forum, however, we had raised early on this issue as crucial to the process of nation building, urging that the new government should be able to define clearly the role of the government versus the market over the control of the so-called commanding heights. We thought that a national consensus should be formed to legitimize the resolution of this issue, instead of being simply handed down by the new government whose ascension to power has not been based on the strength of its partiality to either alternative. . . .

True to her market prejudice, GMA now in power taunted the business community: “It is you who will create the wealth, that will produce.” Whereas we, in our forum, have challenged the business class “to build and to compete” or to engage in aggressive profit maximizing capital investments instead of rent seeking—buying cheap and selling dear. . . .

By way of historical perspective, the remarkable growth of American industry at the end of the 19th Century was propelled by the monopolistic practices of unscrupulous industrial capitalists creating colossal family fortunes while forcing millions of wage earners to live in subsistence level. Later industrializing Japan pursued developmental strategy with the state determining what industries to exist and what were not needed. South Korea’s starting point for competing on the global stage was through officially sanctioned cronyism involving protectionism and government subsidies for the ultra diversified businesses, the chaebols . . . .

The big question then for the Philippines in its search for its own economic model could be: Can the country ever catch up in the race for economic progress by simply delivering the reins of the commanding heights to the market, allowing the market free play?

. . . As a corollary to the first question, if the market would be reined in and leading domestic industries were to be protected and subsidized by the State, how should such favored industries be disciplined in order to perform and compete globally? How could it be accomplished without transgressing WTO commitments and obligations? What are the ways big business could be made accountable to the community and to the environment?

Should small business be subordinated to big business in the meantime? If so, what would be the effects in the long term of such an approach to creativity, innovation, or inventiveness especially upon start ups? Is this the way to compete in the New Economy? Should the path rather be for the succession of start ups responding to market signals to drive the force into diversification?

Should workers and business be encouraged into a relationship of co- determination and participatory labor relations? And should the Left be welcomed wholeheartedly into the political theater ultimately to serve as the alternative political ideology? Or should the country pursue sustainable economic growth sans any ideology?

Of the several presidential aspirants today, it appears that (minus GMA) it is Mar Roxas who has on record tackled the mythical dichotomy between market and government which I have noted in the following blog entry:

Exclusive of the variable of individual hard work, self-sacrifice or initiative that Senator Roxas has thoroughly touched upon in his (Jaime V. Ongpin lecture in October 2005), the great debate on how to attain the Filipino good society is also focused, as the Wharton-educated politician is certainly supposed to be familiar with, on whether the vehicle to rely upon on the whole would be the government or the market.

Recall that President Arroyo had been straightforward on this issue at the very outset of her presidential career. “During my administration,” she announced at her first Vin D’Honor on January 21, 2001, “democracy and the market will be the guiding principles of my domestic and foreign policies” (although two years later, Arroyo flip-flopped in a dramatic way saying that “unbridled globalization is no longer in vogue,” globalization being meant, it would seem, as the agency that will carry the ball towards the utopia of the good society built around a free market).

On the other hand, presidential timber Mar Roxas showed his state-interventionist bent as a congressman at least as regards one critical piece of legislation, the Retail Trade Liberalization law: he was accused of inserting protectionist clauses in the law.

As Trade and Industry Secretary, Mar Roxas allowed another glimpse of where he could be on the ideological divide during a brush with then Finance Secretary Alberto Romulo on the question of giving government incentives to investors. Roxas saw “jobs generated,” as well as “foreign exchange” and “technology transfer” created by the incentives whereas Romulo decried the “foregone revenues.” And when Roxas perceived that the Philippine tuna has been subjected to tariff discrimination (by the US) in favor of the Latin American package, still as DTI Secretary he threatened (indeed a gutsy move by a former Wall Street investment banker) to withdraw Philippine membership from WTO.

Is there something more discernible about Mar Roxas’ predilections from his Jaime Ongpin memorial lecture? Let’s vet closer what he said:

Our social compact is premised on the basic idea is (sic) that if people put something into their life, they should get something reasonably gainful out of it. We all “bought” into this bargain and we look to the government as the chief implementer of the same. This is a simple but basic bargain that seems to work in meritocracies like the US and Singapore, but here in the Philippines, the gap between effort and output has steadily widened.

The first sentence I believe is a nuanced manifesto of economic liberalism (which argues that since men are the best judge of their own limits and capacities, it follows that the most rational use of the resources available to them will happen if they are allowed to follow their pursuits under conditions of free competition). This also dovetails with Mar Roxas’ conception of “leader and leadership (being) within us.” The second sentence which “look(s) to the government as the chief implementer of the (bargain)” is therefore a non sequitur (underscoring mine); it smacks of protectionism (or the old policy of mercantilism, the granting of special privileges to merchants and manufacturers to encourage the development of commerce and industry).

Shouldn’t the suggestion that the meritocratic system in the US and Singapore are normative bother us too? (In the US government subsidies to wealthy farmers or aircraft manufacturers are mind-boggling and Singapore, as is well-known, is a single-party government.)

What else did we learn from and about Mar?

Everywhere else in the world today, governments are gearing up to meet the challenges of the 21st century: the challenges of globalization, of integration, of achieving economies of scale. Nations are identifying and building up their comparative advantages—whether these be in agriculture, in manufacturing, or in high technology or science.

Or we can decide to truly make the domestic industry competitive: this will mean overhauling our thinking and premises on our economy. This will also mean adjusting our tariff policy, our energy policy, and our agriculture policy, among others.

Now, we are getting the point: government must meet the challenge of globalization in order “to truly make the domestic industry competitive ….”

If we haven not realized it yet, the phenomenon of globalization is the engine of turbocapitalism that is running over the traditional role of government in domestic affairs by the ascendancy of transnational forces erected around free market. Globalization sees the “withering away” of nation-states that surrender their powers to non-elected technocrats and rationalistic global actors like the IMF, WB, WTO and multinational players such as the TNCs. Globalization is therefore the antithesis of Rostovian developmentalism which relies upon governmental intervention “to provide the enabling, nurturing and invigorating environment within which private initiative and industry, meaning people taking responsibility for their lives, can grow and be properly rewarded,” to borrow the language of Senator Roxas

The equivocation of Mar Roxas on the market /government debate is quite understandable from the standpoint of a mainstream politician that he is. U.S. President Obama is no different; he said this on the campaign trail:

Well, look. I am a strong believer in the free market. I am a strong believer in capitalism. But, I am also a strong believer that there are certain common goods that you know — our air, our water, making sure that people are safe — that require us to have some regulation. Now, it has to be well designed.

But, the financial system is a classic example of a deregulation philosophy run amuck. And now, you see the consequences and ironically, had we had some sensible regulation, we would not have now, actually, a much closer approximation to socialism when it comes to the banking system, than anything that any Democrats have been proposing over the last several years. When you don’t guard against excess, then a lot of times government ends up having to step in anyway, in a much more burdensome way.

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Comments

  1. perryh says:

    Jokingly, I blogged about my reason for choosing Mar as my president (he has no children that will invade showbiz). Until someone commented that he too has a child. Given that, then Among Ed next fits the bill. But now, Noynoy fits the bill as well. But actually, Mar is still the intelligent choice.

  2. J_ag says:

    In the final analysis it is about Karl Marx versus David Ricardo on who directs, controls and allocates the surplus value creation process. The state or private individuals?

    In the PRC it is still dominated by state bureaucrats. They rule the domestic market place, the import and export trade of domestic consumption while the foreign carrying trade (export zones) are liberalized. This is the laboratory where the Chinese state acquires the skills and technology for the domestic sector. The Japanese did it to catch up with the West then and now the Chinese are following in the same footsteps.

    In countries where the primitive accumulation is still the rule there is not much surplus value to talk about. Marx and Ricardo have not yet been born. Most of the surplus value creation is in the hands of the foreign cartels. Hence backward primitive countries in the stage of primitive value creation process will borrow from the future to pay for the continued use of foreign productive capital to maintain the ersatz capitalist system in the country.

    The country will struggle to pay the monopoly rents of foreign capital.

    Example: Napocor’s stranded costs alone this year amount to over Php 500 billion+ and still rising (paying for the continued debasement of peso and accruing interest). This has still not migrated to the national debt accounts serviced by the budget. The debts are simply rolled over and citizens pay for it in the form of higher electric rates.

    The commanding heights are owned by foreign capital. We still have not learned to build our own commanding heights of steel and steam that will then lead to producing the capital goods – the foundation of capitalism (industrialization)…

  3. UP n grad says:

    to perryH: I think your last sentence – Mar is the choice — is also what Abe M wants folks to conclude, based on the themes of a Mar platform, e.g. Mar on globalization, Mar on meritocracy, that Barack obama says things that Mar has also said, that Mar had threatened to withdraw Philippine membership from WTO over tuna, etc.

    • Joe America says:

      UP n,

      Who do you favor at this early stage? Say top 3? Or is it too early to opt?

      I ask because I respect your balanced views. Most others are way this way or way that way and unlikely to change. You actually weigh things instead of fitting them into a pre-defined box.

      I am just doing my due diligence. Heh

      Joe

      • UP n grad says:

        JoeAm: Right now, it is the Erap-floater that can’t be allowed to proceed. Being convicted of a felony is serious stuff. Just for that alone, Erap should be out.

        Other than Erap, the top-5 of the latest survey do have followings (both among voters and among the movers-and-shakers). The presidency requires serious politicking abilities and the names at bottom of pile deserve to be there (e.g. Jamby — fringe politician).

        Purity-of-heart and “for-the-greater-good” is not enough if one can’t get anything done, and much worse should they get manipulated or overran by the “big guns”. Panlilio won’t be a standard-bearer, and just as well.

        Noynoy is also fringe, in my mind. Thru two months ago, he was one to ignore, and he was.

      • UP n grad says:

        When the standard-bearers have been chosen, they will then be presented to the voters using the usual stuff — the candidates are “pure-of-heart”, will serve “the will of the people”, and are targetting goals that are “for the greater good”. [They will also have 2 or 3 movie stars as they give their stump speeches.]

        The voters have to get to the other stuff — the stuff that these candidates had presented to their business- and military-supporters. I am not talking about distributing the spoils (who gets what ambassador-position) nor what denomination currency will contain Cory’s picture but the presidentiable’s focus — the top 5 programs he/she wants to accomplish, the top 3 issues that the presidentiable sees as wrong with Pinas and his/her approaches to these problems. Wouldn’t it be a hoot if Pinas suddenly wakes up December 1-2010 to learn that China has been allowed to operate out of three Mindanao naval bases in return for low-cost China loans to be used for bullet-proof vests, infantry fighting vehicles, helicopters, mortars, others.

      • Joe America says:

        UP n,

        Thanks for the thoughts. I blow Villar out for the same rationale you do for Erap, even if there is no conviction. But any of the other four I suppose could emerge as President. There is no Obama amongst them (my definition of a “star” even if some see it fading). I suppose the task at hand is to figure out how to influence the agenda from now forward.

        Joe

      • Bencard says:

        americanjoe, who cares who your choice is or not? you are not a VOTER. you must qualify any statement you make on the matter with that fact. be a POLITE visitor.

      • Ben K says:

        That’s true, Joe. I keep reminding myself of it. However, Bencard, if Joe’s anything like me, he’s got a whole string of family and neighbors asking him what he thinks, and will go to the polls and vote for whoever he says he likes, even if he specifically tells them not to do that and to make up their own minds. So it behooves guys like us to be informed, and to weigh the information carefully, because like it or not we have influence, and that influence must be used wisely.

      • Mike H says:

        Hey, don’t knock it!!! AmericanJoe’s vote (I think Teodoro) is the same count as Bonganay’s vote!!

      • Bencard says:

        benk, polite opinion, yes, but not when he is knocking down other people’s choices using same rhetoric used by “paid hacks”. iba ang dating kung galing sa isang dayuhan na walang karapatang bumoto.

      • Ben K says:

        Touche. Actually, I don’t recall accusing you of being ‘paid’, just ‘right-wing’. And since that particular discussion was about politics in the country where I am not a foreigner who has no right to vote, that’s a little different. In this particular discussion in this country, however, I have to agree with you. As careful as we must be with the people we influence, we ought to be equally careful that our opinions substantially add to the debate.

        For what it’s worth, I haven’t formed any positive opinions yet of any of the candidates, only negative opinions of some of them. Not enough either way to be helpful to anyone, so I’m keeping it to myself for now.

      • Joe America says:

        Bencard,

        I have never used the term “paid hacks”, and I only smack people when smacked. I think you have me confused with MB and others who have, for some strange reason, resorted to calling you names. Consider the common factor here. You.

        Joe

      • Bencard says:

        joe-am, read again my comment. i did not say you called me a paid hack or that you were calling me names. i said, in knocking down other people’s candidate, you use the same language (rhetoric) that “paid hacks” usually employ.

  4. BongV BongV says:

    The time will come

    I believe in a ll of that. The thing is.. to get there you have to start with a baseline – the here and now – and craft and implement a plan to get from Pt A to Pt B.

    The “time will come” is the desired future state. We can agree to such a desired future state. However, that is only one part of the picture. The devil lies in the details of conceptualizing a solution, rolling it out, sustaining it, and continuously improving or optimizing the solution so we can get to our destination with maximum efficiency and impact at minimal cost.

    It boils down to this – What is the candidate’s value proposition?

  5. benign0 says:

    Nice one gramps.

    But I got an even nicer response to it.

    check it out here:

    Presidential elections are all about choosing ONE

    You might wanna check it out as well, Mr. J_ag, seeing that you immensely enjoyed reading my book.

    :-D

  6. Ben K says:

    Big vocabulary, not much to say. What I read boils down to this:

    1. Platforms and debate are pointless, because that’s the way things are done here.
    2. Mar Roxas for president.

    I guess it wouldn’t sound as scholarly to just leave it at, though.

    • Hyden Toro says:

      If people scams you. You let yourself be scammed again and again. Because being scammed is the accepted tradition. What an idiotic thinking ! It stinks to me…

  7. Hyden Toro says:

    Political Platform is where we can start with. We need to start
    somewhere. Platforms means: What can you do for us ? How can you
    solve our problems ? How can you improve our situations ?

    If they try to confuse us. Or try to sidestep issues
    by ignoring them thru gimmicks. Then, we will be in the Rude Awakening again. It is like ; we go around and around in circles.
    We dont get out of our situations.

    The Politicians and their cahoots want to perpetuate the “status qou”. Because it is profiting them and their families.

    SHOW US THE MONEY, DUMBOS ! BEFORE YOU CAN EARN OUR VOTES !

  8. J_ag says:

    It is sad and tragic that everyone talks about political platforms but still do not understand the role of government..

    Ever since man created a surplus, human societies were transformed by the exchange economy.

    The exchange economy became the principle organizing mechanism around which societies are organized.

    Thus the role of government formally was born evolving from head of family tribal societies.

    The political battlefield has always been about who directs and controls the exchange (market) mechanism through control of the surplus creation. This then led to the invention of mediums for exchange – money…

    So if anyone wants to grade politicians the simple question will always be?
    Where is the Philippines situated in the process of wealth generation?

    What is their belief system in the role of government in the actual process of wealth generation for the Philippines?

    People have to know and understand what the problem is first. Just look at the nonsensical matrix for platforms put up by the delusional agitator.

    Below is a link to an article of just how deep state participation in the market economy is in China. It is all about firecrackers…

    Someone pointed to a French saying — Yes to a market economy but No to a market society…

    “Tuhsu says on its website that it was the first state-owned trading company established in the new People’s Republic, in the wake of the Chinese revolution of 1949. With the opening up of the Chinese economy by Deng Xiaoping in the 1980s and early 1990s, it evolved into a state-owned enterprise (SOE), owned by the state but operated as a commercial business. In 2004, Tuhsu was placed under the corporate umbrella of another SOE, Cofco.”

    “After years of Tuhsu’s “do nothing and it’ll go away” legal strategy, Gagliardino’s writ livened things up. Within weeks, Silverman was facing a battery of high-powered attorneys from a clutch of US law firms. That’s because when Gagliardino filed the writ of revival, he added Cofco’s name to the writ. Cofco is one of the biggest global companies you’ve never heard of. Its interests include grain and edible oils, hotels, wine, property and finance. Its US investments include a shopping centre in Arizona.”

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/521444be-92a1-11de-b63b-00144feabdc0.html

    • GabbyD says:

      “It is sad and tragic that everyone talks about political platforms but still do not understand the role of government….

      Where is the Philippines situated in the process of wealth generation?

      People have to know and understand what the problem is first.”

      ok. why is situating the philippines in this process important such that political platforms are now sad and tragic?

      what is the “problem” ur referring to?

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