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		<title>By: benign0</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/design-and-the-road-to-2010/comment-page-1#comment-22305</link>
		<dc:creator>benign0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 22:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny that I&#039;d respond to jcc in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.filipinovoices.com/paranaque-shoot-fest#comment-22299&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;another thread&lt;/a&gt; and actually end up highlighting what I think is a &lt;i&gt;design principle&lt;/i&gt; I believe is most relevant to Pinoy society.

&lt;blockquote&gt;[...] But what you can do is build systems that take into account human nature (such as greed).

Compare &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; approach with most hollowheaded approaches where people try to &lt;i&gt;demand&lt;/i&gt; the eradication of greed. As if that was actually possible.

Systems should be designed for &lt;i&gt;resiliency&lt;/i&gt; rather than built under some presumed code of morality that participants in said system will follow.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Then again, design requires &lt;i&gt;thinking&lt;/i&gt;. We are a labour-added-value society and not a &lt;i&gt;design-added-value&lt;/i&gt; one. Even our brand of &quot;democracy&quot; is labour-intensive -- lots of warm bodies called to &quot;action&quot; in various incarnations of ocho-ocho &quot;revolutions&quot;. So we need to be really &lt;i&gt;focused&lt;/i&gt; in our efforts to build a cultural &lt;i&gt;ethic&lt;/i&gt; of design (throw in also an eye for aesthetics as well, because we suck at that too).

Whatever needs to be designed should take into account Pinoy Culture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny that I&#8217;d respond to jcc in <a href="http://www.filipinovoices.com/paranaque-shoot-fest#comment-22299" rel="nofollow">another thread</a> and actually end up highlighting what I think is a <i>design principle</i> I believe is most relevant to Pinoy society.</p>
<blockquote><p>[...] But what you can do is build systems that take into account human nature (such as greed).</p>
<p>Compare <i>that</i> approach with most hollowheaded approaches where people try to <i>demand</i> the eradication of greed. As if that was actually possible.</p>
<p>Systems should be designed for <i>resiliency</i> rather than built under some presumed code of morality that participants in said system will follow.</p></blockquote>
<p>Then again, design requires <i>thinking</i>. We are a labour-added-value society and not a <i>design-added-value</i> one. Even our brand of &#8220;democracy&#8221; is labour-intensive &#8212; lots of warm bodies called to &#8220;action&#8221; in various incarnations of ocho-ocho &#8220;revolutions&#8221;. So we need to be really <i>focused</i> in our efforts to build a cultural <i>ethic</i> of design (throw in also an eye for aesthetics as well, because we suck at that too).</p>
<p>Whatever needs to be designed should take into account Pinoy Culture.</p>
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		<title>By: cocoy</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/design-and-the-road-to-2010/comment-page-1#comment-22296</link>
		<dc:creator>cocoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 22:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mlq3, found the book. thanks! 

&lt;blockquote&gt;we only have them one at a time -the prewar nacionalistas, the martial law kbl, the Cory coalition and the FVR-JDV-GMA Lakas-Kampi. nationwide in scope, up and down the line, they bring out the vote and get its candidates elected and reelected. and reward supporters and seduce enemies when they can.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

so what you&#039;re saying is that we&#039;re a one party system? pretty much like the Chinese and the Singaporeans. interesting. interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mlq3, found the book. thanks! </p>
<blockquote><p>we only have them one at a time -the prewar nacionalistas, the martial law kbl, the Cory coalition and the FVR-JDV-GMA Lakas-Kampi. nationwide in scope, up and down the line, they bring out the vote and get its candidates elected and reelected. and reward supporters and seduce enemies when they can.</p></blockquote>
<p>so what you&#8217;re saying is that we&#8217;re a one party system? pretty much like the Chinese and the Singaporeans. interesting. interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Manila</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/design-and-the-road-to-2010/comment-page-1#comment-22273</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Manila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 17:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Design a nation&quot;? It&#039;s as minimalist as benign0&#039;s framework is simplistic.

A nation consists of people bound by common culture, tradition, history, religion, aspirations, etc.

I said this before, and I&#039;ll say it again:  Performance (of the people) in general is based on personality which is determined by mindset and attitudes, which are to a large extent forged by centuries of history and values-formation. This is what we call culture.

There is nothing deterministic in this interpretation i.e. the present day Philippine crisis is inevitable result of our history. The Philippine experience is the result of myriad accidental and contingent events. The oft-repeated  saying &quot;three centuries in the convent and fifty years in Hollywood&quot; in a way produced a confused, not &quot;damaged culture.&quot; 

The fact is the Filipino ruling class failed to chart the country&#039;s course for most of Philippine history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Design a nation&#8221;? It&#8217;s as minimalist as benign0&#8242;s framework is simplistic.</p>
<p>A nation consists of people bound by common culture, tradition, history, religion, aspirations, etc.</p>
<p>I said this before, and I&#8217;ll say it again:  Performance (of the people) in general is based on personality which is determined by mindset and attitudes, which are to a large extent forged by centuries of history and values-formation. This is what we call culture.</p>
<p>There is nothing deterministic in this interpretation i.e. the present day Philippine crisis is inevitable result of our history. The Philippine experience is the result of myriad accidental and contingent events. The oft-repeated  saying &#8220;three centuries in the convent and fifty years in Hollywood&#8221; in a way produced a confused, not &#8220;damaged culture.&#8221; </p>
<p>The fact is the Filipino ruling class failed to chart the country&#8217;s course for most of Philippine history.</p>
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		<title>By: mlq3</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/design-and-the-road-to-2010/comment-page-1#comment-22271</link>
		<dc:creator>mlq3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 17:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cocoy, a counter-argument could be made. for the purposes of those using the system, it serves their purposes very well. another example is the usual western and left-inclined sneering at our political parties as nonexistent because not conforming to the west or eastern models like the communist party of china. but by any obkective standard we have tremendously effective, cohesive, popularly-supported parties with esprit de corps and even elan. except we only have them one at a time -the prewar nacionalistas, the martial law kbl, the Cory coalition and the FVR-JDV-GMA Lakas-Kampi. nationwide in scope, up and down the line, they bring out the vote and get its candidates elected and reelected. and reward supporters and seduce enemies when they can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cocoy, a counter-argument could be made. for the purposes of those using the system, it serves their purposes very well. another example is the usual western and left-inclined sneering at our political parties as nonexistent because not conforming to the west or eastern models like the communist party of china. but by any obkective standard we have tremendously effective, cohesive, popularly-supported parties with esprit de corps and even elan. except we only have them one at a time -the prewar nacionalistas, the martial law kbl, the Cory coalition and the FVR-JDV-GMA Lakas-Kampi. nationwide in scope, up and down the line, they bring out the vote and get its candidates elected and reelected. and reward supporters and seduce enemies when they can.</p>
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		<title>By: mlq3</title>
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		<dc:creator>mlq3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 17:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cocoy, do read  ellis&#039; &quot;founding brothers.&quot; it provides a very keen insight into how constitutions are one part design, one part accident/compromise, and a functioning constitution is one part intelligent design, and one part individuals who set out to mold the constitutional system while its still plastic enough to influence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cocoy, do read  ellis&#8217; &#8220;founding brothers.&#8221; it provides a very keen insight into how constitutions are one part design, one part accident/compromise, and a functioning constitution is one part intelligent design, and one part individuals who set out to mold the constitutional system while its still plastic enough to influence.</p>
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		<title>By: leytenian</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/design-and-the-road-to-2010/comment-page-1#comment-22265</link>
		<dc:creator>leytenian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cocoy,

we already have the design and the operating system, what we don&#039;t have are the right operators to make the system work. They don&#039;t know how to operate a system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cocoy,</p>
<p>we already have the design and the operating system, what we don&#8217;t have are the right operators to make the system work. They don&#8217;t know how to operate a system.</p>
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		<title>By: cvj</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/design-and-the-road-to-2010/comment-page-1#comment-22260</link>
		<dc:creator>cvj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some background discussion on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://crookedtimber.org/2006/07/28/surowiecki-and-attribution-error/#comments&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;fundamental attribution error&lt;/a&gt;, i.e. &lt;i&gt;&quot;the tendency to ascribe success or failure to innate characteristics, even when context is overwhelmingly important.&quot;&lt;/i&gt; You can find that in a lot of Benign0&#039;s writings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some background discussion on the <a href="http://crookedtimber.org/2006/07/28/surowiecki-and-attribution-error/#comments" rel="nofollow">fundamental attribution error</a>, i.e. <i>&#8220;the tendency to ascribe success or failure to innate characteristics, even when context is overwhelmingly important.&#8221;</i> You can find that in a lot of Benign0&#8242;s writings.</p>
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