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		<title>By: DJB</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/die-cyclops-die/comment-page-1#comment-23317</link>
		<dc:creator>DJB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 02:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JCC,
For some reason I think the Vice Presidency is even more valuable now than the Presidency, at least for the right candidate.  It&#039;s the only way to rule for more than six years in a row!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JCC,<br />
For some reason I think the Vice Presidency is even more valuable now than the Presidency, at least for the right candidate.  It&#8217;s the only way to rule for more than six years in a row!</p>
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		<title>By: benign0</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/die-cyclops-die/comment-page-1#comment-23155</link>
		<dc:creator>benign0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 03:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmmm, there&#039;s something to be said about the way Pinoys so readily relate with this rather trivial event. :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmmm, there&#8217;s something to be said about the way Pinoys so readily relate with this rather trivial event. :D</p>
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		<title>By: Bencard</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/die-cyclops-die/comment-page-1#comment-23152</link>
		<dc:creator>Bencard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 03:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why, because you think physically assaulting a private person is not criminal, and people will be so stupid as to believe you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why, because you think physically assaulting a private person is not criminal, and people will be so stupid as to believe you?</p>
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		<title>By: DJB</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/die-cyclops-die/comment-page-1#comment-23107</link>
		<dc:creator>DJB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Know what Bencard? Filipinos are going to be throwing more than their shoes at her as she leaves. That&#039;s because they believe you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Know what Bencard? Filipinos are going to be throwing more than their shoes at her as she leaves. That&#8217;s because they believe you!</p>
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		<title>By: Bencard</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/die-cyclops-die/comment-page-1#comment-23099</link>
		<dc:creator>Bencard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i believe gma doesn&#039;t have to rely on a &quot;favor&quot; from anyone. her enemies can file as many cases against her as they can find paper to write them on but without evidence of criminal culpability that can hold up in a court of law (which i don&#039;t think there is) it would be a ludicrous exercise.

as things currently stand, only a vengeful totalitarian government, without regard to due process and rule of law, can railroad a gma conviction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i believe gma doesn&#8217;t have to rely on a &#8220;favor&#8221; from anyone. her enemies can file as many cases against her as they can find paper to write them on but without evidence of criminal culpability that can hold up in a court of law (which i don&#8217;t think there is) it would be a ludicrous exercise.</p>
<p>as things currently stand, only a vengeful totalitarian government, without regard to due process and rule of law, can railroad a gma conviction.</p>
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		<title>By: jcc</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/die-cyclops-die/comment-page-1#comment-23077</link>
		<dc:creator>jcc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Either I am really out of touch of the realities on the ground,  or all the punditries above, including that of the venerable Justice Art Panganiban were all but sounds of false alarm.

My prediction is that there will be a 2010 election and the next President would either be Noli, Villar, Roxas, Lacson, Gordon, or Legarda.  

Not that they are of high stature presidentiables, but  in Philippine context, anyone is acceptable except the incumbent.

It would be too bold an act for GMA to extend her rule by the options laid out by Justice Panganiban, martial law, emergency rule, Con-Ass considering that the Church has already voiced out its opposition.

Martial law under Marcos came about because the Church for most of the time had danced tango with Marcos and Imelda.

Now the Church has expressed its displeasure over cha-cha, and therefore over any idea that will bring the same result, emergency rule or martial law.

GMA cannot risk the displeasure of the Church and suffer the same fate as Mr. Marcos. She has a good look at history and she would follow her basic catholic training.

Compared to Marcos, she has no blood in her hand for thousands of desaparecidos and salvaging under Marcos.  Though similar crimes occur during her watch, such were directly pinned to the military apparatus and routinely on her civilian rule only under the precept of  being the  commander-in-chief.  But if you consider the Pinoy ethos for humanity,  once GMA steps down from power and do it without bloodletting,  she would be loved by Pinoys and could hope to run again after the 2010 election.

GMA now could not be threatened for possible prosecution after her era by the new regime. All these talk about dismounting from a tiger is all horseshit. The new power in Malacanang would pat her back for mishandling her administration which helped too much extent the rise of the new power in that House by the Pasig River.  All these vitriolic  against GMA is period specific, 2010 elections.  Once we passed this election fever, a new political atmosphere will calm the nation until the new kleptocracts in Malacanang started dipping their fingers in our coffers again.

If you consider that Erap despite his conviction was extended the pleasure of liberty from prison, and the Marcos’ plunder and bloody regime  entirely forgotten and the Pinoys had brought them back to power, GMA would be extended much more courtesy and sympathy and the new dispensation would be awed by such sympathy as to be able to put her on trial. That is if she would allow power-change without bloodletting.  And if they would insist on trial, GMA would become a martyr in the eyes of the Filipinos,  a situation the new administration cannot handle.   Erap, a convict still bedazzles the ever gullible Pinoys.  GMA does not have that baggage of conviction nor of the sins of the degree of the Marcos era.

I will bet  100 dollars to  25 dollars if I have my analysis of the situation is proven wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Either I am really out of touch of the realities on the ground,  or all the punditries above, including that of the venerable Justice Art Panganiban were all but sounds of false alarm.</p>
<p>My prediction is that there will be a 2010 election and the next President would either be Noli, Villar, Roxas, Lacson, Gordon, or Legarda.  </p>
<p>Not that they are of high stature presidentiables, but  in Philippine context, anyone is acceptable except the incumbent.</p>
<p>It would be too bold an act for GMA to extend her rule by the options laid out by Justice Panganiban, martial law, emergency rule, Con-Ass considering that the Church has already voiced out its opposition.</p>
<p>Martial law under Marcos came about because the Church for most of the time had danced tango with Marcos and Imelda.</p>
<p>Now the Church has expressed its displeasure over cha-cha, and therefore over any idea that will bring the same result, emergency rule or martial law.</p>
<p>GMA cannot risk the displeasure of the Church and suffer the same fate as Mr. Marcos. She has a good look at history and she would follow her basic catholic training.</p>
<p>Compared to Marcos, she has no blood in her hand for thousands of desaparecidos and salvaging under Marcos.  Though similar crimes occur during her watch, such were directly pinned to the military apparatus and routinely on her civilian rule only under the precept of  being the  commander-in-chief.  But if you consider the Pinoy ethos for humanity,  once GMA steps down from power and do it without bloodletting,  she would be loved by Pinoys and could hope to run again after the 2010 election.</p>
<p>GMA now could not be threatened for possible prosecution after her era by the new regime. All these talk about dismounting from a tiger is all horseshit. The new power in Malacanang would pat her back for mishandling her administration which helped too much extent the rise of the new power in that House by the Pasig River.  All these vitriolic  against GMA is period specific, 2010 elections.  Once we passed this election fever, a new political atmosphere will calm the nation until the new kleptocracts in Malacanang started dipping their fingers in our coffers again.</p>
<p>If you consider that Erap despite his conviction was extended the pleasure of liberty from prison, and the Marcos’ plunder and bloody regime  entirely forgotten and the Pinoys had brought them back to power, GMA would be extended much more courtesy and sympathy and the new dispensation would be awed by such sympathy as to be able to put her on trial. That is if she would allow power-change without bloodletting.  And if they would insist on trial, GMA would become a martyr in the eyes of the Filipinos,  a situation the new administration cannot handle.   Erap, a convict still bedazzles the ever gullible Pinoys.  GMA does not have that baggage of conviction nor of the sins of the degree of the Marcos era.</p>
<p>I will bet  100 dollars to  25 dollars if I have my analysis of the situation is proven wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: DJB</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/die-cyclops-die/comment-page-1#comment-23066</link>
		<dc:creator>DJB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hang on Bencard. I&#039;ve already said we cannot tell what his real opinion is. But &quot;voting jointly&quot; is a dead giveaway that he is referring to &quot;unicameral&quot; since in this case the Senate is truly irrelevant. He also refers to &quot;con-ass&quot; which I think means Constituent Assembly. When he says the con-ass would be able to install the parliamentary system, he is clearly contrasting that situation with the present, in which twice already GMA et al have miserably failed at that. Clearly he is talking of what is possible under a martial law scenario. These are his words in that blockquote above, not mine!

But what is YOUR opinion? Under martial law upheld by a simple majority of the Congress, can 3/4 of the House members plus 18 convene a Constituent Assembly and propose revisions and amendments to the Constitution?

Am I not right to disagree with the suggestion that under martial law Villafuerte could get away with the &quot;voting jointly&quot; interpretation of Article 17 Section 1 (chacha) ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hang on Bencard. I&#8217;ve already said we cannot tell what his real opinion is. But &#8220;voting jointly&#8221; is a dead giveaway that he is referring to &#8220;unicameral&#8221; since in this case the Senate is truly irrelevant. He also refers to &#8220;con-ass&#8221; which I think means Constituent Assembly. When he says the con-ass would be able to install the parliamentary system, he is clearly contrasting that situation with the present, in which twice already GMA et al have miserably failed at that. Clearly he is talking of what is possible under a martial law scenario. These are his words in that blockquote above, not mine!</p>
<p>But what is YOUR opinion? Under martial law upheld by a simple majority of the Congress, can 3/4 of the House members plus 18 convene a Constituent Assembly and propose revisions and amendments to the Constitution?</p>
<p>Am I not right to disagree with the suggestion that under martial law Villafuerte could get away with the &#8220;voting jointly&#8221; interpretation of Article 17 Section 1 (chacha) ?</p>
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		<title>By: Bencard</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/die-cyclops-die/comment-page-1#comment-23064</link>
		<dc:creator>Bencard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it sounds to you, djb. but it is NOT. cj panganiban very clearly refers to extension of martial law by congress, &quot;voting jointly&quot;, not the constituent assembly. your &quot;distrust&quot; of him makes you see things that just aren&#039;t there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it sounds to you, djb. but it is NOT. cj panganiban very clearly refers to extension of martial law by congress, &#8220;voting jointly&#8221;, not the constituent assembly. your &#8220;distrust&#8221; of him makes you see things that just aren&#8217;t there.</p>
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		<title>By: BrianB</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/die-cyclops-die/comment-page-1#comment-23062</link>
		<dc:creator>BrianB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So she was leaving, then? She brokers peace in Mindanao, stays on?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So she was leaving, then? She brokers peace in Mindanao, stays on?</p>
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		<title>By: DJB</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/die-cyclops-die/comment-page-1#comment-23057</link>
		<dc:creator>DJB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BrianB,
I think BJE was her plan to leave a &quot;peace legacy&quot;, just like the ARMM was FVR&#039;s. But it&#039;s all gone horribly wrong. But here I primarily blame the US Institute of Peace which apparently provided the framework and template. They basically tried to give the MILF everything it wanted...and more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BrianB,<br />
I think BJE was her plan to leave a &#8220;peace legacy&#8221;, just like the ARMM was FVR&#8217;s. But it&#8217;s all gone horribly wrong. But here I primarily blame the US Institute of Peace which apparently provided the framework and template. They basically tried to give the MILF everything it wanted&#8230;and more.</p>
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