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		<title>By: Procopio</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/ed-panlilio-the-devil-and-god/comment-page-1#comment-43717</link>
		<dc:creator>Procopio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 03:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Priests are people like you and me. They can be
tempted and can commit mistakes.

Look at the Inquisitions during the Middle Ages.
They were advocated by the Church and implemented
by Priests. They tortured People and burned them
on the Stakes.

No one is Holier than Thou...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Priests are people like you and me. They can be<br />
tempted and can commit mistakes.</p>
<p>Look at the Inquisitions during the Middle Ages.<br />
They were advocated by the Church and implemented<br />
by Priests. They tortured People and burned them<br />
on the Stakes.</p>
<p>No one is Holier than Thou&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Juwan_D</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/ed-panlilio-the-devil-and-god/comment-page-1#comment-43417</link>
		<dc:creator>Juwan_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 11:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hangat hindi nakikipagsabwatan si panlilio sa mga trapo...kung hindi sya makibesobeso sa mga trapo sa kanyang pagtakbo pagkapangulo ng pilipinas...wala akong pakialam kung pari sya o alagad sya ninuman...

ang mahalaga...meron ng ibang opcion ang pinoy...pinoy na nasusuka na sa kakahalal ng mga lintek, hinayupak at kurakot na mga politiko...

de castro? escudero? villar? teodoro?, roxas? pangilinan? erap? jinggoy?

susmaryosep!!!!!!!!!

nakakasuka na!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hangat hindi nakikipagsabwatan si panlilio sa mga trapo&#8230;kung hindi sya makibesobeso sa mga trapo sa kanyang pagtakbo pagkapangulo ng pilipinas&#8230;wala akong pakialam kung pari sya o alagad sya ninuman&#8230;</p>
<p>ang mahalaga&#8230;meron ng ibang opcion ang pinoy&#8230;pinoy na nasusuka na sa kakahalal ng mga lintek, hinayupak at kurakot na mga politiko&#8230;</p>
<p>de castro? escudero? villar? teodoro?, roxas? pangilinan? erap? jinggoy?</p>
<p>susmaryosep!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>nakakasuka na!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: brian jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>brian jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 06:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God or devil? 

Meaning to say now we have a choice? Before we are reduced to de castro, escudero, villar and estrada. All of which are representations of the same old corrupt politics.

But hey, look, someone came out aside from Puno. A priest. a man of god to venture into the hellish Philippine politics. Clean as he may be, may he remain true once in power for if not there will be no mercy for the likes of him both in this world and the next.

Mas malaki responsibility nya compared to the 4 aspirants. the dark horse dressed in white we&#039;ve been looking for perhaps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God or devil? </p>
<p>Meaning to say now we have a choice? Before we are reduced to de castro, escudero, villar and estrada. All of which are representations of the same old corrupt politics.</p>
<p>But hey, look, someone came out aside from Puno. A priest. a man of god to venture into the hellish Philippine politics. Clean as he may be, may he remain true once in power for if not there will be no mercy for the likes of him both in this world and the next.</p>
<p>Mas malaki responsibility nya compared to the 4 aspirants. the dark horse dressed in white we&#8217;ve been looking for perhaps.</p>
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		<title>By: missingpoints</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/ed-panlilio-the-devil-and-god/comment-page-1#comment-13358</link>
		<dc:creator>missingpoints</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@blackshama

Moving the goalposts. When you extend the definition of god to include even the imaginary ones in people&#039;s heads, you can&#039;t lose. 

As for &quot;extraordinary evidence,&quot; do reasonable people automatically assume the existence of something pending evidence to the contrary? Is non-belief in the Flying Spaghetti Monster simply a case of faith on your part?

Until someone provides real, falsifiable evidence of god&#039;s existence we will continue to exercise reason and refuse to believe. 

@jeg
I agree. Problema ng simbahan iyan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@blackshama</p>
<p>Moving the goalposts. When you extend the definition of god to include even the imaginary ones in people&#8217;s heads, you can&#8217;t lose. </p>
<p>As for &#8220;extraordinary evidence,&#8221; do reasonable people automatically assume the existence of something pending evidence to the contrary? Is non-belief in the Flying Spaghetti Monster simply a case of faith on your part?</p>
<p>Until someone provides real, falsifiable evidence of god&#8217;s existence we will continue to exercise reason and refuse to believe. </p>
<p>@jeg<br />
I agree. Problema ng simbahan iyan.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 07:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our constitution guarantees Panlilio&#039;s right to run for public office. Whether he shouldve resigned his holy orders first or whether he should be kicked out of the priesthood is between him and the Catholic hierarchy. As far as the law is concerned, he&#039;s free to be governor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our constitution guarantees Panlilio&#8217;s right to run for public office. Whether he shouldve resigned his holy orders first or whether he should be kicked out of the priesthood is between him and the Catholic hierarchy. As far as the law is concerned, he&#8217;s free to be governor.</p>
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		<title>By: thenashman</title>
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		<dc:creator>thenashman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 16:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Evolutionary fitness is the reason why Anne Rice became theist (once more!)&quot;

methinks it was the all consuming guilt that catholics cannot shrug that forced her back to theism...but yeah, ok maybe you are right, this is &#039;evolutionary fitness&#039; of some sort (whatever that means in this context)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Evolutionary fitness is the reason why Anne Rice became theist (once more!)&#8221;</p>
<p>methinks it was the all consuming guilt that catholics cannot shrug that forced her back to theism&#8230;but yeah, ok maybe you are right, this is &#8216;evolutionary fitness&#8217; of some sort (whatever that means in this context)</p>
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		<title>By: justbrowsing</title>
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		<dc:creator>justbrowsing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 23:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duh!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duh!</p>
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		<title>By: blackshama</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/ed-panlilio-the-devil-and-god/comment-page-1#comment-13101</link>
		<dc:creator>blackshama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 16:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The hypothesis is that belief in God confers fitness is extremely plausible. Let me throw atheists (who don&#039;t accept that their view is a faith) three hypotheses

First God does exist
Second God is something that is an epiphenomenon a product of Darwinian evolution.
Third God doesn&#039;t exist

Now what is most parsimonious? and has a higher probability?

Perhaps the third one. But you have to find extraordinary evidence to prove it with little chance of falsifiability. Not even the Right Reverend Richard Dawkins has it. 
 
Philosophy can prove the first quite elegantly,no need for empirical evidence. In fact it is harder to prove the converse. But that ain&#039;t science!

Science can validate the second when the problem of consciousness is ventually understood. In that case, God does exist! even in the mind! Voltaire is right here

It is a red herring to use the Copernican argument for or against the existence of God. After all Bellarmine&#039;s foil against Galileo is that he did not have enough evidence to prove the Copernican hypothesis beyond what a mathematical model can predict.  This is an instance of mathematical fun as the Rev Fr Daniel McNamara SJ ( a beloved Ateneo priest-physicist) has pointed out in a lecture. It is possible to prove that the Ptolemaic system is true given another coordinate system.

But this is beyong my argument. It is interesting to observe in atheists is whether their faith does confer some sort of evolutionary fitness let&#039;s say when atheists are in foxholes or as the subject of Air Crash Investigation episodes!

Evolutionary fitness is the reason why Anne Rice became theist (once more!)

I would hypothesize that atheism being a faith confers evolutionary fitness in certain situations (like when you are in the common room with Richard Dawkins)

This is the question that makes the Most Reverend Richard Dawkins fume!

But Dawkins can have the comfort that there is a possibility that God is an Integer!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The hypothesis is that belief in God confers fitness is extremely plausible. Let me throw atheists (who don&#8217;t accept that their view is a faith) three hypotheses</p>
<p>First God does exist<br />
Second God is something that is an epiphenomenon a product of Darwinian evolution.<br />
Third God doesn&#8217;t exist</p>
<p>Now what is most parsimonious? and has a higher probability?</p>
<p>Perhaps the third one. But you have to find extraordinary evidence to prove it with little chance of falsifiability. Not even the Right Reverend Richard Dawkins has it. </p>
<p>Philosophy can prove the first quite elegantly,no need for empirical evidence. In fact it is harder to prove the converse. But that ain&#8217;t science!</p>
<p>Science can validate the second when the problem of consciousness is ventually understood. In that case, God does exist! even in the mind! Voltaire is right here</p>
<p>It is a red herring to use the Copernican argument for or against the existence of God. After all Bellarmine&#8217;s foil against Galileo is that he did not have enough evidence to prove the Copernican hypothesis beyond what a mathematical model can predict.  This is an instance of mathematical fun as the Rev Fr Daniel McNamara SJ ( a beloved Ateneo priest-physicist) has pointed out in a lecture. It is possible to prove that the Ptolemaic system is true given another coordinate system.</p>
<p>But this is beyong my argument. It is interesting to observe in atheists is whether their faith does confer some sort of evolutionary fitness let&#8217;s say when atheists are in foxholes or as the subject of Air Crash Investigation episodes!</p>
<p>Evolutionary fitness is the reason why Anne Rice became theist (once more!)</p>
<p>I would hypothesize that atheism being a faith confers evolutionary fitness in certain situations (like when you are in the common room with Richard Dawkins)</p>
<p>This is the question that makes the Most Reverend Richard Dawkins fume!</p>
<p>But Dawkins can have the comfort that there is a possibility that God is an Integer!</p>
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		<title>By: Karl Garcia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karl Garcia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 13:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quarrying from lahar.
I agree with Nash,for obvious reasons dahil totoo naman eh, na pinakita lang ni gov ang totoong picture ng tax revenue potentials from quarrying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quarrying from lahar.<br />
I agree with Nash,for obvious reasons dahil totoo naman eh, na pinakita lang ni gov ang totoong picture ng tax revenue potentials from quarrying.</p>
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		<title>By: benign0</title>
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		<dc:creator>benign0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 12:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I said a short while back:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.filipinovoices.com/a-society-where-all-the-wrong-arguments-win&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;A society where all the wrong arguments win&lt;/a&gt;

- ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I said a short while back:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.filipinovoices.com/a-society-where-all-the-wrong-arguments-win" rel="nofollow">A society where all the wrong arguments win</a></p>
<p>- ;)</p>
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