If there’s a law to prosecute GMA why are they not used? If laws are being bought, who were bought?
One woman, GMA, against Philippinoses. If one woman can rule supreme over 99.99% and if one woman is alleged to have bought the law, THEREFORE, 99.99% of Pilifinos are accessory to GMA!!!!
ABOVE IS LOGICAL. IF YOU THINK NOT LOGICAL, BECAUSE YOU ARE PILIFINOS. PILIFINOS DON’T HAVE LOGIC.
That’s why they go to America and work in service industry. Because in service industry is the place where they are led, commanded, controlled and they just follow because Pilifinos don’t have brain. They are robots.
Juwan, Filipinos hate logic. Filipinos intelligent musings. I undeerstand where you came from Juwan. You are just another degenerate low-IQ-3rdworld Asian Trash.
Juwan, Pilifinos don’t want their antics exposed. That’s why Pilifinos cannot change. That is why we don’t have social scientists that study our behaviour.
Pulse Asia & SWS are sooo stupid they think use plenty of jargons make them right!
just answer the question, karlpopper and we’ll see if you are hollow-headed. you should be able to tell whether or not gaite can be appointed legally. this question is not “hollow-headed”. do you want to know what the term means?
I don’t wish to mis-spell your name, however tempting.
I’m afraid you want to refer to Section 4.2 of the Securities Code of the Philippines on the appointment of SEC commissioners which clearly becomes violated if and when Gaite is appointed to SEC.
In short, the question revolves around whether or not Gaite, in the context of this proviso, possesses good moral character.
Now, tell me if this answer is hollowheaded? It really amazes me how FV can turn into everything it wants. Now comes the teacher of law?
Everyone comes here with some kind of expertise or opinion. You don’t take enough time and effort to give yours to the cause of mutual enlightenment. Why not explain things more succinctly and convincingly instead of fatuously calling folks “hollowheaded”? You cannot expect respect simply because you are among the dime a dozen lawyers and shysters. Show’em that you are actually a “gem in the rough”–instead of some other organic matter.
karlpopper, you can mis-spell my name intentionally anytime. i don’t expect anything better from the likes of you. btw, what do you get out of it, huh? a rise? or does it make you sound “smart”?.
Bencard,
You know of course the anti-GMA folks are sure to have the Last Laugh, because she is doomed by the things she has done and not done. Your defenses of her and the FG are admirably restrained and often point out legal interpretation of various things. But such defenses often lack moral conviction, thus lack the power to convince.
Your high fees are of course to be congratulated. But they are really non-sequitur here. We do not need them to take the measure of you or appreciate it for what it is.
You seem to have no sympathy for the thousands of victims of the Legacy scam, yet I doubt you are being paid for such callousness.
Gaite admitted giving 500,000 to JLO, yes? So, what Buencam and all the rest are saying is quite obvious—we don’t need an operator over at the SEC. What we need are people with the highest integrity so that we’ll be able to conduct our affairs in the highest order.
I don’t fault you for not having the proper and wholistic perspective of things happening here. What is happening during these past months is simply, a moral revolution.
The perception being created is that it’s not enough for you to be qualified. What we need are people who are qualified and who are incorruptible. Integrity is a requirement for public office.
Gaite may be qualified, but there are obviously others more qualified than him, yes? What’s so bad about this appointment is Arroyo appointed someone, a bureaucrat and a known operator, to sit as a regulator of business. This appointment is akin to a mayor appointing his bribe collector to the permits section.
“give one reason why gaite could not be appointed, anyone? caveat: your answer may expose the hollowness of your head.”
GMA did not reappoint Martines because of allegations that he took a bribe from De Los Angeles.
GMA appointed Gaite to replace Martinez despite allegations that the P500,000.00 he gave ZTE NBN witness Jun Lozada was for Lozada to stay away from the Philippines while the ZTE NBN hearings were going on.
At the very least, bencard is deemed taken to task – give a full-headed answer to the question he floated except that he just does not oblige and viciously just tells anyone here that every answer so far given is hollow-headed.
It is a pity for this self-professed lawyer to keep on antagonizing anyone. Clearly, he must have been badly embarassed since it has become clear that he is a paid hack.
this karlpopper who just popped up in this space from who-knows-where obviously likes to make his own verdicts, e.g., “deemed taken to task” (whatever that means); “he is a paid hack”, without an iota of substantiated fact to back it up. just because you, karlpopper, make it a career to write a lot of “letters to the editor” doesn’t qualify you to make such presumption-based judgments.
again, your answer to my original question was “hollow-headed” because you disqualified an appointee based on insinuation of bribe-giving. do you or don’t you deny that?
mbuencamino, wtfy, pgma has a right to hire and fire political appointees for no reason or any reason. she doesn’t have to “justify” her action to you or to anyone. whether or not she personally believes (regardless of the allegations) that martinez has outlived his usefulness, or that gaite can help put ssc in order, she is entitled to act based on that belief and no one, but no one, can second-guess her.
it would have been different if the gaite had been CONVICTED, or even INDICTED for bribery. that would be another matter altogether.
Of course she can, legally speaking. She can even commute the sentence of a convicted pedophile for no reason or any reason. These are powers given to a president that the wise men who wrote the constitution that the people ratified. Who would have thought the Philippines would be cursed by a Gloria Macapagal Arroyo anyway?
But you know replacing an alleged bribe taker with a man who admitted giving money to Lozada does not smell right. Legal but it stinks.
If we want to have moral/ethical recovery in the Philippines, government officials, especially regulators, should be beyond reproach.
Like President Obama immediately withdrawing the nomination of Tom Daschle because of tax issues. The latter has not been charged or convicted, was he?
patricio m. @ 9:05am, i’m not ignoring you, pat. correct me if i’m wrong but i thought gaite said that he scrounge around and raise the amount to help lozada who claimed to be in financial distress abroad. i know so many speculations can arise out of that assertions, as it had been with lozada’s sob story, but as things stand, are we justified to conclude that there was a crime of bribery committed? why should gaite’s version be false and that of lozada true?
essentially, bribery is committed when a public officer is paid to do or not to do an act, or to perform or not perform his duties. even granting, arguendo, that gaite gave the 5k, that alone cannot suffice to establish a probable cause.
celso, you are entitled to take sides but why should pgma copy whatever obama does? i think it’s time we should discard this habit of measuring the propriety of what our officials do against that of the u.s. or other foreign countries. btw, obama needs to maintain popularity because he is thinking of re-election even now. pgma doesn’t have the same objective.
beyond reproach? are you saying that all one has to do to prevent another from being appointed is to make allegations of bad acts committed by the latter? i think that would make appointing anyone in the philippines extremely difficult, if not impossible.
Yes, the Philippines should not really be copying President Obama’s ways. But there should be some minimum benchmarks, don’t you think?
Otherwise, if we keep moving the ethical/moral goal posts just to accommodate the choices of the present political masters, then every Lord Tom, Dick, and Harry of corrupting, drug-pushing, gambling, smuggling, who have not been convicted or formally charged will be in government???
This commenter who keeps pounding here almost stupid arguments will ask you a question and as soon as you answered it, he will clone another question from your answer – well, how is that?
Bottom line, how else can GMA appoint anyone but legally? Highly stupid!
karlpooper, don’t just say “stupid arguments”. you get no “pogi points” for that. show why they are stupid. better still, rebut them if you can. caveat: avoid sounding too deep. you’re just exposing your shallowness, punk.
Another potential Pulitzer entry winner for Manuel Buencamino. Nice.
If there’s a law to prosecute GMA why are they not used? If laws are being bought, who were bought?
One woman, GMA, against Philippinoses. If one woman can rule supreme over 99.99% and if one woman is alleged to have bought the law, THEREFORE, 99.99% of Pilifinos are accessory to GMA!!!!
ABOVE IS LOGICAL. IF YOU THINK NOT LOGICAL, BECAUSE YOU ARE PILIFINOS. PILIFINOS DON’T HAVE LOGIC.
That’s why they go to America and work in service industry. Because in service industry is the place where they are led, commanded, controlled and they just follow because Pilifinos don’t have brain. They are robots.
I think therefore i am.
Renato,
You are a philosopher! Actually, you do make sense, despite the haze of lambanog.
Manuel B.,
E ano fa flu? Wala ng ibang gustong maglingkod sa Kamahalang Gloria.
Madonna, i’m not a pilosopher. The GMA corruption-allegation’s non-prosecution is sooo obvious that we don’t have to be pekeng-peryodistas to know.
And they alleged that GMA buys the prosecutors. WoW! Sexy! Therefore, everyone are all in this together. Everyone is corrupt!!!!!
What good is electing an honest, hardworking, intelligent president if 99.99% of Pilifinos can readily be bought?????
We need that Rights-to-Reply Bill! Rights-to-Reply bill is education to pekeng-peryodistas!!!!!
Bribery is a culture of Philippine politics and
Filipinos. If you are issued a traffic ticket,
it is easier to give bribe than pay fines.
Lagay will always be with us. Because people
wants to cut corners.
Put an end to this style – it is cheap.
Sir, anong problema?
Nag-write turn ka sa no write-turn.
Sir, pwede patawarin mo ako. Maawa ka na man sa akin. Wala ka bang PAKIKISAMA?
Traffic enforcer was stricken with guilt when he heard the word “PAKIKISAMA”
OK, next time huwag tingnan mo ang mga traffic sign ha?
OK, sir!
IT’S NOT ONLY BRIBERY BUT THIS SICK JOKE CALLED PAKIKISAMA!!!!!
Dear Renato,
you using 2 pcs using 2 handles?
yours,
suspicious Bert
I don’t use two handles. I use a handle different from this blogsite
Renato is KSP….Kulang Sa Pakog hehehehe
Juwan, Filipinos hate logic. Filipinos intelligent musings. I undeerstand where you came from Juwan. You are just another degenerate low-IQ-3rdworld Asian Trash.
KSP
Juwan, Pilifinos don’t want their antics exposed. That’s why Pilifinos cannot change. That is why we don’t have social scientists that study our behaviour.
Pulse Asia & SWS are sooo stupid they think use plenty of jargons make them right!
give one reason why gaite could not be appointed, anyone? caveat: your answer may expose the hollowness of your head.
Was the Senate intentionally bungled ZtE invistigation so GMA cannot be prosecuted?
Why pekeng-peryodistas attacked whistleblowing Justice Sabio as compared with Joey de Venenta?
Your answer will expose how the pekeng-peryodistas make your head h ollow
renato, you sound like the cousin of benigno :)
bencard,
don’t ask the general assembly, in the manner you did as it might reflect your equally hollowheaded braggadocio.
suppose I tell you a hollowheaded answer can come only from a hollowheaded question?
just answer the question, karlpopper and we’ll see if you are hollow-headed. you should be able to tell whether or not gaite can be appointed legally. this question is not “hollow-headed”. do you want to know what the term means?
bencard,
I don’t wish to mis-spell your name, however tempting.
I’m afraid you want to refer to Section 4.2 of the Securities Code of the Philippines on the appointment of SEC commissioners which clearly becomes violated if and when Gaite is appointed to SEC.
In short, the question revolves around whether or not Gaite, in the context of this proviso, possesses good moral character.
Now, tell me if this answer is hollowheaded? It really amazes me how FV can turn into everything it wants. Now comes the teacher of law?
for me, manuel gaite is that blind singer who belted out the song, ” Hey, JLO, me 500 ka dito”.
Bencard,
We should all try not to be fatheaded.
Everyone comes here with some kind of expertise or opinion. You don’t take enough time and effort to give yours to the cause of mutual enlightenment. Why not explain things more succinctly and convincingly instead of fatuously calling folks “hollowheaded”? You cannot expect respect simply because you are among the dime a dozen lawyers and shysters. Show’em that you are actually a “gem in the rough”–instead of some other organic matter.
You are often wrong yourself, no? I know I am.
moral character, karlpopper? why? because of insinuations that he is a “bribe-giver”? now, that is hollow-headed.
btw, i’m not “teaching” law. i practice it.
djb, fyi, i’m not a shyster and am not cheap. hope you can substantiate what you said when the time comes. i don’t care if your are a real dean.
karlpopper, you can mis-spell my name intentionally anytime. i don’t expect anything better from the likes of you. btw, what do you get out of it, huh? a rise? or does it make you sound “smart”?.
Bencard,
You know of course the anti-GMA folks are sure to have the Last Laugh, because she is doomed by the things she has done and not done. Your defenses of her and the FG are admirably restrained and often point out legal interpretation of various things. But such defenses often lack moral conviction, thus lack the power to convince.
Your high fees are of course to be congratulated. But they are really non-sequitur here. We do not need them to take the measure of you or appreciate it for what it is.
You seem to have no sympathy for the thousands of victims of the Legacy scam, yet I doubt you are being paid for such callousness.
hi bencard,
hollowheadedness, you mean?
Gaite admitted giving 500,000 to JLO, yes? So, what Buencam and all the rest are saying is quite obvious—we don’t need an operator over at the SEC. What we need are people with the highest integrity so that we’ll be able to conduct our affairs in the highest order.
I don’t fault you for not having the proper and wholistic perspective of things happening here. What is happening during these past months is simply, a moral revolution.
The perception being created is that it’s not enough for you to be qualified. What we need are people who are qualified and who are incorruptible. Integrity is a requirement for public office.
Gaite may be qualified, but there are obviously others more qualified than him, yes? What’s so bad about this appointment is Arroyo appointed someone, a bureaucrat and a known operator, to sit as a regulator of business. This appointment is akin to a mayor appointing his bribe collector to the permits section.
rejoinder….
So, what now, what would businessmen and foreign investors think about the Securities and Exchange Commission?
That to be able to SECURE their businesses and interests, they need some EXCHANGE with Gaite in the form of a 500,000 COMMISSION?
Bencard,
You’re beating around the bush – way too long.
Bencard,
“give one reason why gaite could not be appointed, anyone? caveat: your answer may expose the hollowness of your head.”
GMA did not reappoint Martines because of allegations that he took a bribe from De Los Angeles.
GMA appointed Gaite to replace Martinez despite allegations that the P500,000.00 he gave ZTE NBN witness Jun Lozada was for Lozada to stay away from the Philippines while the ZTE NBN hearings were going on.
Need I explain more?
Bencard,
Wazzamatta widya? Wasn’t the cartoon clear and simple enough for you?
Bencard, MB is right. Gaite is toxic f. waste.
At the very least, bencard is deemed taken to task – give a full-headed answer to the question he floated except that he just does not oblige and viciously just tells anyone here that every answer so far given is hollow-headed.
It is a pity for this self-professed lawyer to keep on antagonizing anyone. Clearly, he must have been badly embarassed since it has become clear that he is a paid hack.
this karlpopper who just popped up in this space from who-knows-where obviously likes to make his own verdicts, e.g., “deemed taken to task” (whatever that means); “he is a paid hack”, without an iota of substantiated fact to back it up. just because you, karlpopper, make it a career to write a lot of “letters to the editor” doesn’t qualify you to make such presumption-based judgments.
again, your answer to my original question was “hollow-headed” because you disqualified an appointee based on insinuation of bribe-giving. do you or don’t you deny that?
Double talk is a Political Instinct. Like Duck
to a water…
mbuencamino, wtfy, pgma has a right to hire and fire political appointees for no reason or any reason. she doesn’t have to “justify” her action to you or to anyone. whether or not she personally believes (regardless of the allegations) that martinez has outlived his usefulness, or that gaite can help put ssc in order, she is entitled to act based on that belief and no one, but no one, can second-guess her.
it would have been different if the gaite had been CONVICTED, or even INDICTED for bribery. that would be another matter altogether.
Bencard,
Of course she can, legally speaking. She can even commute the sentence of a convicted pedophile for no reason or any reason. These are powers given to a president that the wise men who wrote the constitution that the people ratified. Who would have thought the Philippines would be cursed by a Gloria Macapagal Arroyo anyway?
But you know replacing an alleged bribe taker with a man who admitted giving money to Lozada does not smell right. Legal but it stinks.
I have to agree with MB on this one.
If we want to have moral/ethical recovery in the Philippines, government officials, especially regulators, should be beyond reproach.
Like President Obama immediately withdrawing the nomination of Tom Daschle because of tax issues. The latter has not been charged or convicted, was he?
patricio m. @ 9:05am, i’m not ignoring you, pat. correct me if i’m wrong but i thought gaite said that he scrounge around and raise the amount to help lozada who claimed to be in financial distress abroad. i know so many speculations can arise out of that assertions, as it had been with lozada’s sob story, but as things stand, are we justified to conclude that there was a crime of bribery committed? why should gaite’s version be false and that of lozada true?
essentially, bribery is committed when a public officer is paid to do or not to do an act, or to perform or not perform his duties. even granting, arguendo, that gaite gave the 5k, that alone cannot suffice to establish a probable cause.
celso, you are entitled to take sides but why should pgma copy whatever obama does? i think it’s time we should discard this habit of measuring the propriety of what our officials do against that of the u.s. or other foreign countries. btw, obama needs to maintain popularity because he is thinking of re-election even now. pgma doesn’t have the same objective.
beyond reproach? are you saying that all one has to do to prevent another from being appointed is to make allegations of bad acts committed by the latter? i think that would make appointing anyone in the philippines extremely difficult, if not impossible.
Bencard,
Yes, the Philippines should not really be copying President Obama’s ways. But there should be some minimum benchmarks, don’t you think?
Otherwise, if we keep moving the ethical/moral goal posts just to accommodate the choices of the present political masters, then every Lord Tom, Dick, and Harry of corrupting, drug-pushing, gambling, smuggling, who have not been convicted or formally charged will be in government???
it’s not a perfect world, celso, it’s not a perfect world. if it is, there will absolutely be no problem.
This commenter who keeps pounding here almost stupid arguments will ask you a question and as soon as you answered it, he will clone another question from your answer – well, how is that?
Bottom line, how else can GMA appoint anyone but legally? Highly stupid!
karlpooper, don’t just say “stupid arguments”. you get no “pogi points” for that. show why they are stupid. better still, rebut them if you can. caveat: avoid sounding too deep. you’re just exposing your shallowness, punk.