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		<title>By: angela</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/ham-and-eggs/comment-page-1#comment-112519</link>
		<dc:creator>angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 07:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>here are some excerpts from ninoy&#039;s Testament From A Prison Cell:

http://www.stuartsantiago.com/ninoys-politics-the-filipino-as-dissident/
http://www.stuartsantiago.com/ninoys-politics-a-christian-democratic-vision/
http://www.stuartsantiago.com/ninoys-politics-manifesto-for-a-free-society/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here are some excerpts from ninoy&#8217;s Testament From A Prison Cell:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.stuartsantiago.com/ninoys-politics-the-filipino-as-dissident/" rel="nofollow">http://www.stuartsantiago.com/ninoys-politics-the-filipino-as-dissident/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.stuartsantiago.com/ninoys-politics-a-christian-democratic-vision/" rel="nofollow">http://www.stuartsantiago.com/ninoys-politics-a-christian-democratic-vision/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.stuartsantiago.com/ninoys-politics-manifesto-for-a-free-society/" rel="nofollow">http://www.stuartsantiago.com/ninoys-politics-manifesto-for-a-free-society/</a></p>
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		<title>By: karl garcia</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/ham-and-eggs/comment-page-1#comment-112455</link>
		<dc:creator>karl garcia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 04:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No problem chuck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No problem chuck!</p>
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		<title>By: Edward</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/ham-and-eggs/comment-page-1#comment-112225</link>
		<dc:creator>Edward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do Noynoy supporters use the light and dark scenario? Then using Noynoy as tacitly implying that he is on the light side? Is this something to counter rich vs. poor? Or oligarchy vs. democracy. Landowner vs. farmers?

Let us not forget the power of Darth Insidious (fitting name) that he can impersonate the light to confuse the people that he is fighting for the light. 

The force may be strong in Noynoy, but discern whether he is of the dark we must.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Not that the reds see Agrarian Reform that way, preferring the rowdy way of violence over changing the law.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, as long as Agrarian Reform will not be opposed or mutilated by oligarchs I guess desperation will be apparent. These people are fighting for their lives as opposed to landowners fighting for mere profit.

Violence can be attributed to the extreme right-wing as well. Luisita Hacienda owners openly shooting at protesters, harassing farmers. Government officials initiating extra-judicial-killings, torture, and kidnappings to defenseless people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do Noynoy supporters use the light and dark scenario? Then using Noynoy as tacitly implying that he is on the light side? Is this something to counter rich vs. poor? Or oligarchy vs. democracy. Landowner vs. farmers?</p>
<p>Let us not forget the power of Darth Insidious (fitting name) that he can impersonate the light to confuse the people that he is fighting for the light. </p>
<p>The force may be strong in Noynoy, but discern whether he is of the dark we must.</p>
<blockquote><p>Not that the reds see Agrarian Reform that way, preferring the rowdy way of violence over changing the law.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, as long as Agrarian Reform will not be opposed or mutilated by oligarchs I guess desperation will be apparent. These people are fighting for their lives as opposed to landowners fighting for mere profit.</p>
<p>Violence can be attributed to the extreme right-wing as well. Luisita Hacienda owners openly shooting at protesters, harassing farmers. Government officials initiating extra-judicial-killings, torture, and kidnappings to defenseless people.</p>
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		<title>By: BongV</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/ham-and-eggs/comment-page-1#comment-112196</link>
		<dc:creator>BongV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not a biggie Karl.

To say that there was no equity in Socsargen&#039;s is misleading and incorrect. 

Equity was poured into Socsargen in phases:

Phase 1 - Pump priming (Stimulus-type intervention; ODA-driven) - $100M under the Philippine Aid Plan under DILG Sec Luis Santos; Infrastructure development - Socsargen Road Network; Socsargen Airport - all funded from the Official Development Aid (ODA) raised during the PAP pledging sessions.

Phase 2 - Investor-driven - Investments on the Ground. This is direct equity.

All of this ODA equity+Private sector equity fueled the economic growth in Socsargen. Thus, the statement that there was growth without equity is kinda... HUH? WHAT? ANO DAW? WTF? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not a biggie Karl.</p>
<p>To say that there was no equity in Socsargen&#8217;s is misleading and incorrect. </p>
<p>Equity was poured into Socsargen in phases:</p>
<p>Phase 1 &#8211; Pump priming (Stimulus-type intervention; ODA-driven) &#8211; $100M under the Philippine Aid Plan under DILG Sec Luis Santos; Infrastructure development &#8211; Socsargen Road Network; Socsargen Airport &#8211; all funded from the Official Development Aid (ODA) raised during the PAP pledging sessions.</p>
<p>Phase 2 &#8211; Investor-driven &#8211; Investments on the Ground. This is direct equity.</p>
<p>All of this ODA equity+Private sector equity fueled the economic growth in Socsargen. Thus, the statement that there was growth without equity is kinda&#8230; HUH? WHAT? ANO DAW? WTF? :)</p>
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		<title>By: cvj</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/ham-and-eggs/comment-page-1#comment-112157</link>
		<dc:creator>cvj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karl, thanks for remembering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karl, thanks for remembering.</p>
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		<title>By: karl garcia</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/ham-and-eggs/comment-page-1#comment-112146</link>
		<dc:creator>karl garcia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes, they can be the solution.

I still keep on coming back to your post:

http://cvjugo.blogspot.com/2008/08/framework-for-making-food-subsidies.html

we need something like that proposal of yours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes, they can be the solution.</p>
<p>I still keep on coming back to your post:</p>
<p><a href="http://cvjugo.blogspot.com/2008/08/framework-for-making-food-subsidies.html" rel="nofollow">http://cvjugo.blogspot.com/2008/08/framework-for-making-food-subsidies.html</a></p>
<p>we need something like that proposal of yours.</p>
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		<title>By: cvj</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/ham-and-eggs/comment-page-1#comment-112063</link>
		<dc:creator>cvj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And they can likewise be the solution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And they can likewise be the solution.</p>
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		<title>By: Bert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, what are we saying here? We all are saying all the right things to say, being all pundits of the highest caliber (me not included).

And yet, here we are in FV, displaying our biases for our own manoks, endorsing candidates of differing persuasion, all in the name of country and people, and, on May 2010 ends with one winner of a president, who might will deliver the same results as before, and we, the pundits of the highest caliber will again blame the people for their choice, WHEN IT WAS OUR CHOICE TOO. ahayhehehe.

Might as well we just cross our fingers. And spare us the callouses on our fingers, heheh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, what are we saying here? We all are saying all the right things to say, being all pundits of the highest caliber (me not included).</p>
<p>And yet, here we are in FV, displaying our biases for our own manoks, endorsing candidates of differing persuasion, all in the name of country and people, and, on May 2010 ends with one winner of a president, who might will deliver the same results as before, and we, the pundits of the highest caliber will again blame the people for their choice, WHEN IT WAS OUR CHOICE TOO. ahayhehehe.</p>
<p>Might as well we just cross our fingers. And spare us the callouses on our fingers, heheh.</p>
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		<title>By: karl garcia</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/ham-and-eggs/comment-page-1#comment-111986</link>
		<dc:creator>karl garcia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CVJ,BONGV

     &quot;Our neighbors have shown that the focus should first be on equity. That will give market forces a chance to jumpstart economic growth.&quot; CVJ

 &quot;And their focus on equity was to become more investor friendly – unlike the rent capture protectionist 1987 Philippine constitution, courtesy of the oligarchs.&quot; BongV

CVJ, has been saying exactly that(for years), the problems are courtesy of the oligarchs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CVJ,BONGV</p>
<p>     &#8220;Our neighbors have shown that the focus should first be on equity. That will give market forces a chance to jumpstart economic growth.&#8221; CVJ</p>
<p> &#8220;And their focus on equity was to become more investor friendly – unlike the rent capture protectionist 1987 Philippine constitution, courtesy of the oligarchs.&#8221; BongV</p>
<p>CVJ, has been saying exactly that(for years), the problems are courtesy of the oligarchs.</p>
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		<title>By: karl garcia</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/ham-and-eggs/comment-page-1#comment-111983</link>
		<dc:creator>karl garcia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BongV,

thanks for the info re:gem. (made me dig deeper)

http://www.bergerphilippines.com/gem2_show.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BongV,</p>
<p>thanks for the info re:gem. (made me dig deeper)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bergerphilippines.com/gem2_show.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.bergerphilippines.com/gem2_show.pdf</a></p>
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