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		<title>By: Chino F.</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/how-can-5th-century-thinkers-implement-21st-century-plans/comment-page-1#comment-113876</link>
		<dc:creator>Chino F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One wonders whether COMELEC believes that its decision contributes to the peace and order situation of the country. Is that what they&#039;re thinking by branding LGBTs as immoral? They&#039;re still off, but I still wonder if there&#039;s more behind this controversial decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One wonders whether COMELEC believes that its decision contributes to the peace and order situation of the country. Is that what they&#8217;re thinking by branding LGBTs as immoral? They&#8217;re still off, but I still wonder if there&#8217;s more behind this controversial decision.</p>
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		<title>By: GabbyD</title>
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		<dc:creator>GabbyD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 06:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>more important is that the COMELEC group is confused also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>more important is that the COMELEC group is confused also.</p>
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		<title>By: darwin25</title>
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		<dc:creator>darwin25</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 03:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s okay Gabby, it confuses most everybody else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s okay Gabby, it confuses most everybody else.</p>
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		<title>By: GabbyD</title>
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		<dc:creator>GabbyD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is what confuses me.

nothing in the RCC says that homosexuals should be shunned. correct me if i am wrong. RCC believes they are morally wrong, and should be shown love.

but what is the connection between THAT and the inability to run in an election?  much of the consequences of being morally wrong comes NOT while living in this world (the political realities in it, etc), but by loss of the relationship with god. 

in other words, its OK and RIGHT to say: &quot;i think you are a sinner&quot; while saying, &quot;go and exercise political rights in this world&quot;.

moreover -- i agree -- your beliefs inform who you are. but THESE SPECIFIC BELIEFS do not mean that the action should be to shut these groups out. the catholic response ought to be engagement and love.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is what confuses me.</p>
<p>nothing in the RCC says that homosexuals should be shunned. correct me if i am wrong. RCC believes they are morally wrong, and should be shown love.</p>
<p>but what is the connection between THAT and the inability to run in an election?  much of the consequences of being morally wrong comes NOT while living in this world (the political realities in it, etc), but by loss of the relationship with god. </p>
<p>in other words, its OK and RIGHT to say: &#8220;i think you are a sinner&#8221; while saying, &#8220;go and exercise political rights in this world&#8221;.</p>
<p>moreover &#8212; i agree &#8212; your beliefs inform who you are. but THESE SPECIFIC BELIEFS do not mean that the action should be to shut these groups out. the catholic response ought to be engagement and love.</p>
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		<title>By: darwin25</title>
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		<dc:creator>darwin25</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 16:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andun na ko. But the problem is that religion dictates that it should be applied and to not tolerate what it perceives as wrong. It doesn&#039;t leave much room for tolerance, does it? Now how do you a problem like that?

You don&#039;t understand where I&#039;m coming from. I am not contesting what you guys are saying. What I&#039;m saying is that what the law says and what their religion says is directly in contrast. The law says that they should do their jobs regardless of what they believe. Their religion REQUIRES THAT THEY SHOULD APPLY THEIR BELIEFS TO THEIR JOBS no matter what the law says. That is why there is the problem of the church meddling in the affairs of the state.

Mario has it right

&quot;it is no exaggeration to say that the future progress of human society will be impaired by the continuing influence of superstition, pseudoscience, and religion in public and state affairs.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andun na ko. But the problem is that religion dictates that it should be applied and to not tolerate what it perceives as wrong. It doesn&#8217;t leave much room for tolerance, does it? Now how do you a problem like that?</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t understand where I&#8217;m coming from. I am not contesting what you guys are saying. What I&#8217;m saying is that what the law says and what their religion says is directly in contrast. The law says that they should do their jobs regardless of what they believe. Their religion REQUIRES THAT THEY SHOULD APPLY THEIR BELIEFS TO THEIR JOBS no matter what the law says. That is why there is the problem of the church meddling in the affairs of the state.</p>
<p>Mario has it right</p>
<p>&#8220;it is no exaggeration to say that the future progress of human society will be impaired by the continuing influence of superstition, pseudoscience, and religion in public and state affairs.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: mario taporco</title>
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		<dc:creator>mario taporco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 08:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ang aking Kababayan,

COMELEC, these guys are becoming more of a Foreign Bodies to me. Who are they to judge an individual. For that matter the people.

First, let&#039;s find out who or what &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.comelec.gov.ph/aboutus_/bkground.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;COMELEC&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt; is all about.

It says that: &lt;b&gt;THE COMELEC AS GUARDIAN OF THE BALLOT&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;i&gt;&quot;Through the years, the Commission has managed to maintain its authority and independence in the conduct of elections. Actions and decisions of this body that appeared to strain the limits of its powers were, in most cases, sustained by the Supreme Court, thereby reinforcing its position as the constitutionally ordained guardian of the ballot.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Or, are they becoming a Religious Fanatics. One must think! 

Kindly let me introduced you to, &lt;a href=&quot;http://the-brights.net/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&quot;The Brights&quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.
As stated, these guys are bright in knowledge. Not all knowing, but well informed. That&#039;s why they are called &quot;The Brights.&quot;

Brights do not deny the right of religious and other superstitious individuals and groups to freedom of speech and assembly, or any of the other civil liberties that we claim for ourselves. Their goal is not to use levers of social control to suppress them, the way we have often seen our worldview suppressed by them. Their goal is to defeat their program for social control, by gaining majority support for public policy measures untainted by their irrational beliefs. They will also initiate or support legal action to uphold and extend whatever secular principles of public life may be protected by existing law.

Every success we may gain in this project, however small, will have to be defended continuously with vigour and resolve against those who seek to reverse it, or it will inevitably be lost. We must be as determined and forthright as our opponents, or our cause will fail.

Failure is not an option. It is no exaggeration to say that the future progress of human society will be impaired by the continuing influence of superstition, pseudoscience, and religion in public and state affairs. Our task is difficult, but its success is essential if humanity is to thrive as a species.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ang aking Kababayan,</p>
<p>COMELEC, these guys are becoming more of a Foreign Bodies to me. Who are they to judge an individual. For that matter the people.</p>
<p>First, let&#8217;s find out who or what <a href="http://www.comelec.gov.ph/aboutus_/bkground.html" rel="nofollow"><i>COMELEC</i></a> is all about.</p>
<p>It says that: <b>THE COMELEC AS GUARDIAN OF THE BALLOT</b></p>
<p><i>&#8220;Through the years, the Commission has managed to maintain its authority and independence in the conduct of elections. Actions and decisions of this body that appeared to strain the limits of its powers were, in most cases, sustained by the Supreme Court, thereby reinforcing its position as the constitutionally ordained guardian of the ballot.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Or, are they becoming a Religious Fanatics. One must think! </p>
<p>Kindly let me introduced you to, <a href="http://the-brights.net/" rel="nofollow"><i>&#8220;The Brights&#8221;</i></a>.<br />
As stated, these guys are bright in knowledge. Not all knowing, but well informed. That&#8217;s why they are called &#8220;The Brights.&#8221;</p>
<p>Brights do not deny the right of religious and other superstitious individuals and groups to freedom of speech and assembly, or any of the other civil liberties that we claim for ourselves. Their goal is not to use levers of social control to suppress them, the way we have often seen our worldview suppressed by them. Their goal is to defeat their program for social control, by gaining majority support for public policy measures untainted by their irrational beliefs. They will also initiate or support legal action to uphold and extend whatever secular principles of public life may be protected by existing law.</p>
<p>Every success we may gain in this project, however small, will have to be defended continuously with vigour and resolve against those who seek to reverse it, or it will inevitably be lost. We must be as determined and forthright as our opponents, or our cause will fail.</p>
<p>Failure is not an option. It is no exaggeration to say that the future progress of human society will be impaired by the continuing influence of superstition, pseudoscience, and religion in public and state affairs. Our task is difficult, but its success is essential if humanity is to thrive as a species.</p>
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		<title>By: GabbyD</title>
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		<dc:creator>GabbyD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>darwin, they can continue to believe that they are sinners, or whatever. you are free to tell people what your beliefs are, convince them of the wrongness of other&#039;s beliefs, etc.  thats fine. but you cant prevent people from exercising political rights (not religious ones!) on a religious basis.

 this idea protects the faithful&#039;s political rights also -- that is, you cant prevent a citizen from exercising political rights coz he believes in a certain religion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>darwin, they can continue to believe that they are sinners, or whatever. you are free to tell people what your beliefs are, convince them of the wrongness of other&#8217;s beliefs, etc.  thats fine. but you cant prevent people from exercising political rights (not religious ones!) on a religious basis.</p>
<p> this idea protects the faithful&#8217;s political rights also &#8212; that is, you cant prevent a citizen from exercising political rights coz he believes in a certain religion.</p>
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		<title>By: BongV</title>
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		<dc:creator>BongV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;A culture that refuses to evolve will end up dead.&quot;

And that in a nutshell encapsulates the Philippines&#039; medieval thinking in the digital age. Kaya hanggang ngayon, wala pa ring asenso.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A culture that refuses to evolve will end up dead.&#8221;</p>
<p>And that in a nutshell encapsulates the Philippines&#8217; medieval thinking in the digital age. Kaya hanggang ngayon, wala pa ring asenso.</p>
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		<title>By: sjsanjuan</title>
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		<dc:creator>sjsanjuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correct. Let us not delude ourselves that culture is a fixed and stable matter, because it is not. It continuously evolves. It is dynamic. A culture that refuses to evolve will end up dead, or if not, will be deadly for the rest of the world especially if it&#039;s intolerant of other cultural peculiarities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correct. Let us not delude ourselves that culture is a fixed and stable matter, because it is not. It continuously evolves. It is dynamic. A culture that refuses to evolve will end up dead, or if not, will be deadly for the rest of the world especially if it&#8217;s intolerant of other cultural peculiarities.</p>
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		<title>By: sjsanjuan</title>
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		<dc:creator>sjsanjuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem here is the imposition of a certain set of beliefs, esp from a collective that was not elected by the people. This is the same dilemma that courts face when they decide on cases involving social legislation. Are they to impose their own personal biases and prejudices, or rule in favor of the general welfare, their own belief system be damned?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem here is the imposition of a certain set of beliefs, esp from a collective that was not elected by the people. This is the same dilemma that courts face when they decide on cases involving social legislation. Are they to impose their own personal biases and prejudices, or rule in favor of the general welfare, their own belief system be damned?</p>
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