How else should it be done then?
May 4th, 2009 by benign0In my opinion (unlike some people here I do have one, and it ain’t humble) there is only one way, and that way is my way.
It’s simple, really™ — though obviously not for the small-minded; which is why I thought I’d elaborate a bit more.
How it is currently done.
The thinking that underpins the popular and more appealing approach to regarding the challenges that face us as a nation is quite straightforward:
Big Bad Government is responsible.
I can understand the psychology behind the appeal of this kind of thinking. We simply do not want to be told that we are responsible for our own success or failure. Our track record of utter failure is staring us straight at our face: more than fifty years of slow but steady and consistent decline. If we note how politicians, personalities, an assortment of “heroes” and forms of government, have come and gone over those fifty years, what would be the logical conclusion that would jump out at us? The conclusion, quite simply, lies in what remained consistent over those fifty years: not our politicians, not our forms of government, and certainly not our “heroes”, but our character as a people.
This truth — that our chronic failure to launch traces its roots to the very fabric of our character as a people — is, to be fair, difficult to swallow in the same way that it may take an entire lifetime for a junkie or a wino to admit to himself that he is a substance addict. Anybody who’s had the misfortune of having to deal with a substance addict would be familiar with The Attitude. Such losers are predisposed to align and surround themselves with people who validate their mistaken belief that their own failure is somebody else’s fault and, worse, that their prospects for success is somebody else’s responsibility.
Indeed, I wrote back in 2007:
Perhaps we Filipinos find a personal need to remain focused on our presidents, our politicians, and their politics because of our chronic inability to take responsibility not only for our bad fortunes but also for our good fortunes. To us a president is merely an extension of our deeply-ingrained addiction for scapegoats and providers in our lives. Philippine presidents are burdened with wearing both hats simultaneously. A Philippine President both (a) is to blame for poverty (scapegoat hat), and (b) is expected to “create” employment for the jobless (provider hat).
So between “experts” who keep harping about how Government, the descendants of old colonial masters, or the present “neo-Imperialists” continue to “victimise” our hapless lot and realists who remain consistent with the simple message that we are ultimately personally responsible for our success, who would you rather go to bed with? It depends on what part of your brain you are using to evaluate your options. Between your reptilian brain stem that has anywhere above half a billion years of evolution headstart taking over your thinking faculties, and your frontal lobe that’s been around for only a hundred-odd thousand of those, chances are most of us would succumb to the earlier thinking system — where our most primal urges emanate.
This provides a convenient seque into what a lot of people seem to be holding their breaths for (drum roll)…
How else should it be done?
(with a nod to our resident expert Primer for formulating this brilliant question)
This is the hard part — the part that requires human-grade thinking; the kind that our frontal lobes are best at.
Rather than re-invent the wheel, it may help to jump off from an article I wrote back in 2003 that originally set out to expose the flawed thinking Filipinos apply to our regard for “democracy”. I highlight this excerpt specifically:
The Electoral Process is just one element of the democratic equation and should be put in the proper perspective of our democratic duty. It is our duty to:
(a) Select the right leaders;
(b) Use the system to hold them accountable; and,
(c) Hold ourselves accountable for the quality of the leaders we choose using the system.It would be fair to hazard a guess that this whole “love of freedom” sloganeering associated with the practice of “democracy” is the work of a political machine averse to accountability. The point of democracy is not freedom as many of us were foolishly led to believe. The point of democracy is the practice of a system that enables us to hold our leaders to account. One can therefore understand why this, by now, puzzling obssession with “freedom” is prevalent today. Who else but our politicians are the biggest trumpeters of the “freedom” we enjoy under “democracy”?
We will note that an utter lack of understanding of the simple principles above have manifested themselves quite a number of times since.
In 2005, for example, when yet another presidential impeachment bid fell flat on its face, Filipinos retreated back into that all-too-familiar droll and unintelligent style of rhetoric:
And now if there was one stupid question we could choose for 2005, this would be it:
“Saan tayo pupunta pagkatapos pag wala na yung impeachment complaint?” (“Where do we go if the impeachment complaint is voted down?”) asked former education secretary and Liberal Party leader Florencio “Butch” Abad. This was echoed in the PCIJ Blog article “A Black-and-White Day” further quoting Abad: “What path do people take once the impeachment option is slammed shut in their faces?” Excuse us, but who exactly slammed the impeachment option in our faces? How quickly we forget that the very slammers we love to hate were voted into office by the slammees themselves. As Neal Cruz of the INQ7.net aptly put it in a 24 Aug 2005 article:
We are a representative democracy and congressmen are elected to represent their districts in the House. They are supposed to follow the wishes of their constituents who are their employers. But look at what they’re doing. They are disobeying their constituents and pushing Charter change just because of the ambition of their leader who wants to become prime minister by hook or by crook because he knows he cannot be elected president.
Who votes disobedient representatives into congress in the first place? Would a smart (or at the very least sane) person appoint a pedophile to watch over her kids? A government officiated by fools in a democracy merely reflects the fools who exercised their rights to vote to put them there. This is but another bout of this selective amnesia that Filipinos are world-renowned for. The “enlightened” wash the stupidity of the masses off their hands, proclaiming “I did not vote for those fools”. Ironic, that the very same elite who are among the most die-hard defenders of “democracy” and “free” elections would shrink away from accountability over the outcome of the very system they worship.
To be able to hold people to account for success or failure, we need to have it clear in our minds what success means to us. Any moron can make a call for our politicians to exercise a bit of “integrity”, “honesty”, and “leadership”. But ask said moron what he would expect this hypothetically virtuous politician he is calling for to deliver to society specifically? I doubt that he can come up with anything more detailed than over-sloganeered “objectives” like ‘more employment’, more ’social justice’, and abstract concepts like ‘rule of Law’, level ‘playing fields’, and the like.
An absolutely crystal clear and substantial understanding of what we can expect of our politicians, should come from a deep grasp of the issues at play. It may be a tall order to expect this of the Philippine masses, but it can be quite reasonable to expect of the “intelligentsia” and those who exert much influence over our society’s belief systems to take this approach. As implied earlier, our belief systems are flawed. Therefore it requires systemic thinking to fix.
To be able to get rid of a flawed system you need to build a new system to replace it. But how can we if our political parties, the kind of “debates” we engage in, and the issues we highlight and “analyse” are all ultimately built around personalities, the sensational political issue of the day, and the Government that we are made to believe “embodies” Philippine society’s ills? We need to look no further for evidence of the lack of substance around our regard for this challenge than our political parties. What do they stand for? What are the underlying ideologies (at least) or philosophies (at best) that define those vying for a piece of the public awareness?
Philosophies and ideologies are systems of thought. And unless we can attribute such systems of thought to our political parties and, by association, to the politicians affiliated with said political parties, we cannot hope to fix or replace the current dysfunctional belief systems — the pwede-na-yan and bahala na attitudes, and the like — that infest the very fabric of our society and culture ultimately from which our chronic inability to prosper as a people springs forth.
What do the people whose pork barrels, junkets, spending habits, posturings, hairstyles, fashion sense, and soundbites our “experts” constantly scrutinise, speculate on, and blabber about really stand for? And if we get a bunch of slogans and bullet points in response to this first question do we possess the substance to challenge these bullet-pointed and sloganised assertions and seek clarity by asking the right questions?
And here’s my punchline question:
For that matter, what does the Filipino stand for?
If we cannot answer this question convincingly and with conviction (and by all accounts, we do in fact monumentally struggle with this), then I find it quite laughable that we as a collective of “expertise” presume to be critical of our politicians, their political parties (if ever), and our Government.
How should it be done then?
The first step is knowing what we are as a people. And what we really are as a people is apparently not an easy truth for most of us to handle so far as I have seen.
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May 4, 2009 at 3:25 pm
Benign0
How else should it be done then?
You have a Leninesque question (which I hope you didn’t plagiarise!) that deserves a better and more concise answer than your typical long winded ones! Your “The first step is knowing what we are as a people.” is pure cliche the kind that the Sassy Lawyer just crowed about. :-) Now this “What is to be done?” question shows that Lenin understood that you need the educated classes to foment Revolution. Lenin argues that revolutionary spontaneity of the masses isn’t enough.
Since the Sassy Lawyer has rambled about political commentary here and elsewhere, what is obvious that all these commentary in blogs etc have not even made a 1 cal in fomenting that revolutionary spontaneity. DJB had visions of making FV a sort of La Solidaridad. And when that happens and the Revolution restarts, I will be the first one to rejoice on the death of FV!.
However I have lost faith in DJB as our own Lenin. Read what he wrote about Methinks mate you can fill in as FV’s Lenin. You can pour petrol on our spontaneous combustion! :-) LOL!
And perhaps people like Trillanes won’t say this (if they do read their Lenin) and I paraphrase our favourite burgis Vladimir Ilyich “Three Hundred Years of Gloria, may be that’s for the better!”
:-)
May 4, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Jose Rizal hated La Solidaridad. I do too. I don’t believe in collectives. Hives are for the bees. But thank you for no longer mistaking me for Lenin.
May 4, 2009 at 5:33 pm
At least I didn’t mistake you for Trotsky! :-) Anyway we look for the day when like La Soli, FV will die! :-)
May 4, 2009 at 6:11 pm
oh no not Trotsky! he ended up with a pickaxe in his brain. courtesy of stalin. hehe. these were the comic book characters of my youth blackshama. let us leave them with the things of childhood…
May 4, 2009 at 3:26 pm
“In my opinion (unlike some people here I do have one, and it ain’t humble) there is only one way, and that way is my way.”
benignO’s way, hmmmm.
Let’s assume that the Filipino people are as brilliant as benignO. Out of that brilliant minds come the realization that the best way to improve the Filipino people and the nation they love so much is to migrate to Australia, the USofA or whatever country whose people hate doing the dirty works.
Oh, my, I can just imagine our GDP shooting up, Luxemborg will die of envy.
May 4, 2009 at 3:30 pm
Bert
benign0’s way… LOL! That’s why I believe Benign0 can be our Lenin!
He has Lenin’s attitude problem! LOL! :-)
May 4, 2009 at 3:50 pm
benign0 as RP’s Lenin. No way! He is Establishment and status quo guy.
He is the Rasputin, I must say. :)
May 4, 2009 at 3:51 pm
Well said. Filipinos cannot change. Filipinos only change when they are broad. THEY BECOME GOOD CITIZENS REGARDLESS THE FORM OF GOVERNMENT! And when these good citizens come back here they become Filipinos again, corrupt and arrogant and ignorant.
Can Filipinos change in the PHilippines? Only in my dreams and in blogs. Wishful thinking!
May 4, 2009 at 3:57 pm
In response to Blackshama and the rest on plagiarism … so, therefore, nothing is to be said because in the world of internet, nothing is original anymore … therefore, CLOSE THIS SITE!
What is the word for copying someone’s thought? Because what i’ve posted is mental plagiarism copied from another site?
Therefore, we should reconstitute our constitution because it’s plagiarize. Again this post’s thoughts are intellectually plagiarized from aother site … check http://nothingoriginalanymore.com
May 4, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Renato,
why not switch to Chuckie, instead of Chuckie’s Bride. I think they were both dolls, but somehow he gets her pregnant and she even gives birth at the end. He was funny in a boyish sort of way but she’s really evil looking. Didn’t she kill Chuckie by giving birth to their baby and it him like a cannon ball or something?
I can’t read your comments because I’m getting creepy feelings in my own house just looking at you!
Considering that you often make a lot of serious sense, you need a more fitting costume for the bal masque…
May 4, 2009 at 6:28 pm
hehehehe.
May 4, 2009 at 4:45 pm
Not only do you quote yourself, you quote yourself quoting yourself. Like a snake eating itself and then regurgitating the remains. If this is Performance Art, it borders on the obscene. Where the hell is my Pitchfork?
May 5, 2009 at 1:20 am
rofling.
watch out, djb, his trolling pals will come to his rescue. you will need more than a pitchfork.
May 5, 2009 at 3:24 am
he’s saying that RP should have meaningful political parties.
who can be against that? we should all agree on that, its a good idea…
May 4, 2009 at 4:49 pm
Brains aside, I shall be the last to have to embrace the theory of a “Big Bad People” – and I have neither pretention nor reservation about that whatsoever.
Those who would now rather have to blame themselves than the people who run the government responsible for the mess we find ourselves in must have been bitten by a virus of an entirely different genetic code.
The ads of the Philippine Anti-Graft Commission (PAGC) not only approximates benigno’s fabulous IQ-driven oversimplification – but PAGC copies it.
May 4, 2009 at 6:30 pm
i don’t know why FV still allows Benigno to write something without facts. Second no one knows who this man is. He has no identity and credential. I don’t care if he is Mang Juan with a carabao, as long as the identity is known then people can probably donate a little bit of respect.
Let me get this straight to you benigno, I have travelled the world I can guarantee you, it’s not the people of this country but its the people who run this country. There’s something wrong the way PUBLIC SERVICE is managed in this country. There’s no teamwprk among government personnel instead Teamwork among PUBLIC SERVANTS can be a threat and a personal liability. No one understand this concept. It’s a basic theory of governance and management. It’s a “Let’s work together kinda thing” kanya kanya sila….
Solution:
1. Ethics reform thru seminars to all executives and employees of this government. This can be implemented by Comelec and social service. The outcome should be a team of competent politicians not corrupt and blame the people like Benigno.
2. People is their customers therefore , the goal and Mission of this country is to make people happy ans satisfied with the service by providing employment, reducing crime and let the people enjoy Justice. The key management aspect is to work collectively as a team. “Hindi puede, eh problema mo na yan” this negative concept is not acceptable in management . Customer Satisfaction should be their number one concern not the other way around.
3. Benigno, Stop blaming the people. You have no idea what you’re talking about.
May 4, 2009 at 7:41 pm
In a non-Filipino country, the solution for non-performing incompetent managers and business units is would be to fire the managers and get new ones or terminate the operations of the non-performing unit and have its responsibilities assimilated by another unit.
However, when the Filipino’s concept of manager is someone easily accessible, has many connection, dispenses largesse – he winds up putting new names, new faces, using the same criteria , guess what, the Filipino keeps on getting shortchanged because his criteria for selecting managers is flawed. The responsibility for selecting the manager, lies in the selection board – the people. The manager wouldn’t even get to manage if he wasn’t hired in the first place.
When we look at the premise of Democracy that ultimate power resides in the people and that power comes with responsibility, the people have a a responsibility to use their power in a most judicious manner.
Have, we as a people, exercised this power responsibly? Have we re-evaluated our criteria for what makes a good manager? Have we not considered that we keep on selecting flawed managers because of OUR flawed criteria? If we make the selection, we can’t just pass the buck that the manager done it because, we put him in there in the first place. The issue of accountability in this context raises the question – Why didn’t we do due diligence? It is OUR responsibility to be duly diligent because ill-informed decisions will cost us dearly. The buck stops with us.
The A&B classes understand the concept, but elections-wise, they are overwhelmed by the numeric superiority of the C&D classes. The classic solution was to accept and go with the flow. The activists solution is to evangelize among the C&D classes, bring in awareness, engage in dialog, motivate, organize, and mobilize (turn out the vote) – with the goal of having the A&B criteria accepted throughout the C&D classes. I hate to to use the word “class struggle”
May 5, 2009 at 3:22 am
actually, benign0 is saying we should have meaningful political parties…
i think we can all agree with that, right?
May 4, 2009 at 7:01 pm
Primer, PAGC may not work because the worst corruption happens in high places. a 10% procurement fee wil be enough to provide toilets to all elemenetary schools in the country and probably provide snack food for the little ones during school.
High places is where they were appointed. Going back to solution, who among the three branches of government should implement and must check existing conflict of interest. The people of this country has no time to “check and balance” . Mang Juan and Pedro are concern what to bring on the table to feed their families. Benigno expect them to get involve in public management and provide solution? Therefore, if Benigno will become a public servant, he will just sit pretty and incompetent?
What is the purpose of Comelec and its pre-candidacy process, what are the penalties if a candidate was obviously buying votes to win. Why are these things allowed? What is the role of MEDIA?
What is the role of SEC when a politician opens private businesses. All these issues are basic system process. Again, Mang Juan and Pedro have no time to think about this.
May 4, 2009 at 7:43 pm
What is the purpose of Comelec and its pre-candidacy process, what are the penalties if a candidate was obviously buying votes to win. Why are these things allowed? What is the role of MEDIA?
What is the role of SEC when a politician opens private businesses. All these issues are basic system process. Again, Mang Juan and Pedro have no time to think about this.
Well, until Mang Juan and Pedro take notice and give it time they will keep on getting their behinds quit – they don’t learn the lesson, they live the consequences.
May 4, 2009 at 7:43 pm
What is the purpose of Comelec and its pre-candidacy process, what are the penalties if a candidate was obviously buying votes to win. Why are these things allowed? What is the role of MEDIA?
What is the role of SEC when a politician opens private businesses. All these issues are basic system process. Again, Mang Juan and Pedro have no time to think about this.
Well, until Mang Juan and Pedro take notice and give it time they will keep on getting their behinds scr*wed – they don’t learn the lesson, they live the consequences.
May 4, 2009 at 8:19 pm
Bong,
U sound like benigno. Don’t be like him instead be a manager. How do u manage mang juan and pedro? And assume they don’t know the consequences, as a manager, would u take advantage of many juan and pedro? How do u solve the issue if u are given the oppurtunity ?would u think and manage the issue the old way or you subscribe to ethics and moral conduct? Public service is a job to manage many juan and pedro not the otherway around.if you continue to expect that many juan and pedro can change the country then you cannot be a manager because your job becomes useless.
May 4, 2009 at 9:05 pm
I can be the best manager there is and make things happen, but it will be irrelevant until Mang Juan and Pedro make a choice in my direction.
Ethics seminars is not a solution for addressing corrupt people – don’t give a seminar, we’ve been doing value formation seminars, moral regeneration seminars – and the only ones who benefited from it are the resource speakers. Let’s try something new for once – if you have corrupt people in government – FIRE THEM.
May 5, 2009 at 6:10 am
Bong
if one cannot bring out the best in people, then one cannot become a manager. A manager is a leader, a leader will lead Mang Juan and Pedro.
you said to “fire the corrupt people” You mean Fire Gloria? The highest manager of this country?
Gloria needs to guide the senate to implement ethics reform and to provide access to the safety of whistleblowers. Has she done that and meet her cabinet to make things happen as needed by the people. Look Bong, there’s a bad management issue among government branches. The people like Mang Juan and Pedro cannot comprehend complexity but it doesn’t mean that the highest authority should take advantage of such ignorant because by LAW…. it is a legal duty to protect the interest of the people.
For example, you are hired as the manager of “Yinyang company” to train people to become efficient and productive workforce then you accepted the job . Accepting the job binds you LEGALLY to perform your duty. Bong… the word is legal duty. You don’t sit there and wait for things to happen. You will find a way to train people to become efficient. Now put this concept in a bigger context ….
May 5, 2009 at 6:36 am
if one cannot bring out the best in people, then one cannot become a manager. A manager is a leader, a leader will lead Mang Juan and Pedro.
you said to “fire the corrupt people” You mean Fire Gloria? The highest manager of this country?
Gloria needs to guide the senate to implement ethics reform and to provide access to the safety of whistleblowers. Has she done that and meet her cabinet to make things happen as needed by the people. Look Bong, there’s a bad management issue among government branches. The people like Mang Juan and Pedro cannot comprehend complexity but it doesn’t mean that the highest authority should take advantage of such ignorant because by LAW…. it is a legal duty to protect the interest of the people.
For example, you are hired as the manager of “Yinyang company” to train people to become efficient and productive workforce then you accepted the job . Accepting the job binds you LEGALLY to perform your duty. Bong… the word is legal duty. You don’t sit there and wait for things to happen. You will find a way to train people to become efficient. Now put this concept in a bigger context ….
Leytenia:
That is all after the fact – you need to be appointed first.
If Gloria is one of those “corrupt people”, assuming you have are able to establish guilt beyond reasonable doubt, absolutely, YES FIRE HER! What in the world are you thinking? You will have a “corrupt people” implement ethics reform????????? Huh?????????????????? Whhhhhhhhaaaaaaattttttttttt???????????
If she is not one of the “corrupt people”, then retain her, support her in weeding out all the corrupt people around her – FIRE THEM ALL! Nakupo, seseminarin mo ang magnanakaw? Sure thingie, give them a seminar – IN JAIL, AFTER THEY ARE CONVICTED AND HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR CORRUPT ACTS. Replace them with new managers. Nakupo, kung sa office namin nangyari yang corruption na yan, once you are under investigation you will be politely escorted outside the door, you are not given a seminar.
Now, on the matter of taking advantage – the highest authority takes advantage of both the IGNORANT and the EDUCATED – EVERYONE. Corruption is an “Equal Opportunity Activity” and will not make distinctions whether you are educated or not. Who cares if you are IGNORANT or EDUCATED – as long as the corrupt party gets the cash. So educated tayo, ano ngayon? Napakarami natin na educated, has this stopped corruption from the local to the national levels?
The operations side is easy – for seasoned managers, it’s a no-brainer. Getting yourself selected is another story.
For example, Given Raul Roco vs Raul Estrada. How can Roco undertake all the operational improvements when majority of the selection board’s definition of leadership is not only different from that of the minority (and the international mainstream) – but flawed as well?
Hint: Draw a flowchart. Starting point is declaration of candidacy>electoral campaign>elections>post-election (operations). You have a good cart. But, do not put the cart before the horse.
May 5, 2009 at 9:13 am
Bong, you might need to open your mind or maybe change your perception about the role of public service/servant, its job description, its role to the community, its legal duty and its overall purpose to the economic health of this country. Let me share you about DUTY… what is duty anyway…
For example: Bong is the barangay kapitan of munting lupa. benigno said that the people of muntin lupa are not responsible people. They urinate on the wall and make “ibak” along the “ilog”. Also, they just wait for the guava fruit to fall unto their faces. Bong, the kapitan knew for a fact that he has a legal duty to perform to guide the people. But Bong thinks like Benigno, he blames the people instead of taking responsibility. He is EXPECTED LEGALLY to perform as a kapitan. Now what will happen to barangay muntin lupa if the kapitan cannot bring out the best of its own people in an environment so fertile.
And, please don’t come back and tell me to fire Bong the kapitan – that was not the point of my story. The point is LEGAL duty, expected DUTY, SALARIED government employee, or contractual duty between the people and the state. ( the definition of Responsibility)
Duty DUTY DUTY …. If Bong the kapitan put people into a situation where they cannot find employment, then Bong can be guilty of negligent or reckless abandon of his legal duty. Now apply this concept not only to the kapitan of this country but to all government personnels including the executives.
Last question: what management strategies should be implemented for this country so that all of the personalities in public office will adhere to teamwork , ethics and will abide their DUTIES. What strategies could supplement the theory , the written law of the land ( constitution) to get the best Outcome? is it not to implement and PRACTICE…
Connect all that… Theory, Practice then DUTY…
If we will take your route and start with the 80 million people, how much time and budget should be provided to change the country? try to calculate including time to be spent and predict the outcome…
If we will take my route that’s its the people managing this country not the 80 million, how much time do you think and money we need to invest to train this personnel. With political will, they can be trained within 6 months to 1 year with follow ups. It’s a matter of doing it collectively.
which one is the short cut. train the government personnel of less than 1,000,000 million? or the 80 million poor mang juans? which one will take less time in terms of management and savings? think about it.
May 5, 2009 at 9:18 am
leytenian:
Agree on everything that needs to be done. Except,
you get to become barangay AFTER the fact, NOT BEFORE the fact.
you exercise duty AFTER the fact, NOT BEFORE the fact.
you perform your role AFTER the fact, NOT BEFORE THE fact.
May 5, 2009 at 9:29 am
If we will take your route and start with the 80 million people, how much time and budget should be provided to change the country? try to calculate including time to be spent and predict the outcome…
If we will take my route that’s its the people managing this country not the 80 million, how much time do you think and money we need to invest to train this personnel. With political will, they can be trained within 6 months to 1 year with follow ups. It’s a matter of doing it collectively.
which one is the short cut. train the government personnel of less than 1,000,000 million? or the 80 million poor mang juans? which one will take less time in terms of management and savings? think about it.
I see, the path of least resistance. It is easier. Tell you what, you are part of the government machinery, it has been 30 decades – your “managers” have had all the time in the world to come up with what? Sending workers overseas? More corruption? More scandals? 30 years – without any reduction? Based on the actual performance of this “managers” It looks like the KPIs are:, paramihan ng nakaw; paramihan ng relatives at cronies na nailagay sa posisyon? The budget that the managers squandered these past 30 years more than enough to educate all this 80,000,000 Mang Juans. Not are they corrupt but incompetent as well. They ought to be FIRED. Give the COMELEC a budget for genuine voter education, hindi yung hunkey-dorey na may budget kunyari – pumupunta lang sa bulsa ni director or ni commissioner.
In the corporate world, the Mang Juans are stockholders. Gloria and her managers are employees. Guess what the stockholders do when the CEO and her key managers screw up – they get FIRED.
And before, Gloria and her managers can even get onboard, they will go through the eye of the needle.
She is just the manager, She is not the owner. Oftentimes, managers think they own the company – THEY DON’T.
May 5, 2009 at 10:41 am
bong,
read my comment below about the needs to educate the people. The comelec is responsible to teach and guide the peole to make the right choice during election.
Check this site: http://www.usa.gov/Citizen/Topics/Voting.shtml
Most progessive countries have their own strategies. Japan and China has one and many more. Compare this site to Philippine Comelec.
For exmaple: Information can be downloaded on a PDF and every county/ city have access to such information. So with access to such informaion like a brochure, it would be easy to educate the people using Bong the kapitan to distribute the materials, right?
A simple voting rights and ” Buying Votes is illegal” may help educate mang juan and pedro…
Bong, it’s management. Trust me- it’s not the people. When people have access to information, they will be better informed of the consequences and the outcome. Now who’s job is that? what is the role of Comelec and its personnel?
May 5, 2009 at 5:20 pm
read my comment below about the needs to educate the people.
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Bong, it’s management. Trust me- it’s not the people.
leytenia:
Nope, it’s not the people. Why would I trust someone who supports a corrupt person – that’s not a solution, that’s a problem.
And when to comes to educating voters – it’s not just a COMELEC problem – it is a continuous process that extends beyond COMELEC. Kaya nga nagka letse letse – because people just dump everything at government – TOTALLY IRRESPONSIBLE.
Management per se is not a problem. The hiring process keeps on winding up with crooks – thitry something years – ganun pa rin? I think you need to re-evaluate your options, you have been using the same tools and yet you want different results – you gotta be kidding me.
I think the presumption is , before you even enter government service, you are honest and have been given ethics classes ALL YOUR LIFE – why only now?? when you are already a thief?????
May 5, 2009 at 6:20 pm
Bong, you see until now you are not getting it. assume that the people are totally irresponsible. assume you are one of the politicians that is well aware of the problem for 30 years. bakit nga ganun pa rin. How do you manage the issue? manage the people?
if you are a politician, apply, implement and follow up your cut and paste concept:
bong, who will enable the uneducated people who doesn’t think the way you think assume you are the president and you know that for the past 8 years pinoys are dumb. assume to manage it during your term.
May 5, 2009 at 9:41 am
Bong,
Before the fact, you should have an understanding or an overview of what’s AFTER the fact.. But there’s some truth about your ” after the fact” I call it the stone age thinking like in a third world country .
Bong, please don’t tell me that you don’t become a man unless you marry a girl. Before the fact, you are responsible to know what you’re getting into. If it doesn’t work out after the fact , you or her can volunteer to annul or divorce the marriage. This concept is the same. If Bong Kapitan cannot perform, then he can volunteer to resign. Why wait for people to be so upset if there’s a way out. Why sit in office if one cannot create a legacy? This is about PUBLIC SERVICE.
You dont fly and travel without knowing before that fact that you must work and pay for that ticket, right? That’s responsibility before the fact in an honest way.
ambot nimo dong. but I like you. you try so hard … you can always defend yourself not like benigno. :)
Bong, please don’t blog about the weakness of your people most of the time. Yoi can provide balance , you know. If you have a family and children of 6. Would you be happy that someone is talking bad things about your children? what about your sisters and brothers ? who do you think are the appropriate persons to blame? the ignorant, the innocents or the responsible ( the one getting paid by the taxes of the people)
think about it.
May 5, 2009 at 10:21 am
leytenia:
it’s not ABOUT YOU… it’s about THE PEOPLE WHO WILL MAKE THE CHOICE OF GETTING YOU
if Bong Kapitan cannot perform he has no business running for public office.
if he still runs for public office, THE PEOPLE should not elect him because he cannot perform.
if THE PEOPLE still elect Bong Kapitan knowing he cannot perform that’s no longer the fault of Bong Kapitan – it’s THE PEOPLE’s WHO MADE THE CHOICE to elect a non-performing Kapitan WHO WILL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.
May 5, 2009 at 10:23 am
leytenia:
it’s not ABOUT YOU… it’s about THE PEOPLE WHO WILL MAKE THE CHOICE OF GETTING YOU
if Bong Kapitan cannot perform he has no business running for public office.
if he still runs for public office, THE PEOPLE should not elect him because he cannot perform.
if THE PEOPLE still elect Bong Kapitan knowing he cannot perform that’s no longer the fault of Bong Kapitan – it’s THE PEOPLE’s (WHO MADE THE CHOICE to elect a non-performing Kapitan) WHO WILL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.
Will you ask an arbulario to perform radical hysterectomy on you fully well knowing the arbulario is not qualified to remove your uterus ?
May 5, 2009 at 10:45 am
if you have a family and children of 6. Would you be happy that someone is talking bad things about your children? what about your sisters and brothers ? who do you think are the appropriate persons to blame? the ignorant, the innocents or the responsible ( the one getting paid by the taxes of the people)
I will not be happy that people talk bad things about anyone. But, I will not stop there.
My first reaction is stop, and ask – what’s going on?
I will investigate if there are factual events that actually happened and whether there is simnarrates the facts as it transpired, to both sides.
Second, I will ask a third party if what the two are saying factually corroborates.
If it does, and the other party is mistaken, then I will point out the other parties mistake, and provide the facts.
If indeed the people I know are mistaken, I will call their attention to the fact, and I will ask what made them choose to act the way they did. I want to understand why they did what they did.
Having a firmer understanding of what motivated them to do what they do might give me a possible solution on what motivates them to take action.
And, I might be in a position to support them by providing them with knowledge so that they will not keep on repeating the same mistakes. I will be a stern mentor but I will be a good friend and I will help them overcome their weakness because their success is MY success.
May 5, 2009 at 11:12 am
Bong… that’s exactly what the people wants to hear from their representatives. So if you happen to be a senator and you know for a fact that our country is branded as the most corrupt… the people expect you to stop, listen and investigate.. just like what you said. But how can the people expect from your ACTUAL performance to the matter? what steps then?
another example, on sws survey, Gloria is the least popular because of al this brouhaha, if you were Gloria.. what would you do to correct the survey?
I bet, you would stop , listen and investigate? right? but who would investigate you legally if the Ombudsman responsible to investigate are the people you appoint in office? Going back to the “duty to perform” to protect the interest of the people , has it been done? or everything is put on hold?
May 5, 2009 at 5:10 pm
leytenia:
why in the world will you wait to stop, look, and listen, AFTER the fact, when you have the choice of other candidates,stop, look, and listen, BEFORE the fact.
due diligence dearie, proact don’t react. choose a better candidate.
and if there is an iota of truth that Gloria is resorting to corrupt activities – don’t address the survey – INVESTIGATE her. But, Congress is already sold out – inasmuch as executives – SOULS sold, stamped, and delivered straight to hell.
simang ra man gihapon ka nang.
May 4, 2009 at 8:54 pm
I agree with you leytenian.
I would have wanted to have more time than I can have or at best write a blog about benigno but the radical that I am, I know a small part in me will cheat on a large part of what I really am so, I cannot.
I know them now, this benigno, this bencard. Somebody went to say they are part of the status quo of which we are all part anyway.
I am sure about certain things though – that I have worked in the Armed Forces of the Philippines, I have worked in Congress, I have worked in the Local Government Unit, the academe and just to be benigno about, travelled Europe and America.
Sure we know what kind of people infested the whole bureaucracy.
I don’t mean to brag but so my disbelievers know where I am coming from.
I don’t know but I am not afraid to be told to go out of this place. When everything is free, nothing is free.
May 4, 2009 at 9:08 pm
we know. have we acted on that knowledge? have we fired the crooks? no, we just give the crooks seminars? susginoo. puputi na lang ang uwak, magnanakaw is magnanakaw – they have no business being in government, they should be locked up behind bars not taking seminars.
May 4, 2009 at 9:24 pm
Bong,
The whole time that GMA is president – there is nothing like this one in our collective memory.
We are given a good glimpse of the real workings in Malacanang, the Senate, the House of Representatives, the Court of Appeals, the Philippine National Police, and perhaps, the Supreme Court (at least jcc could attest to this claim).
I can sense your frustration although apparently you walk your talk. I know you face no barriers where you are trying to promote a culture-shift but should you be one in government itself, I can peg your failure at 80%.
May 4, 2009 at 10:01 pm
Primer,
I don’t want to be in government in its current form because it is rotten from top to bottom. Thus, I have made the choice – not gonna happen. Moreover, I have been in government as well – and worked with it as well.
As an audiovidual documentary production contractor to a national government agency, I was aghast at the corruption. I joined the bidding process in good faith. I provide the best bang for the buck, but the government chooses the costlier product. I raised the issue with the the RD/ARD/Division Chief. Yun pala dahil may lagay mula driver, to Cashier, to COA, to Division Chief, to ARD hanggang Regional Director, to my chagrin.
My stint with government was primarily in a USAID/PhilExport/LGU joint venture. Applicants had to go through a battery of tests, not just aptitude, but psychological and managerial as well. In that highly screened and highly enabled environment, I was so glad to work with individuals who were on the same page as I was. We not only met our targets, delivered our KPIS – we surpassed them. You know the feedback we received from the traditional agencies? They didn’t like the idea that we were raising the bar of performance because we made them look lazy. And since, NOT ONE, in the group had a corrupt bone in their body – the fixers (and their insiders) who littered the other government agencies complained that our ONE-STOP-SHOP operations were depriving them of “income”. At the end of the day, Davao’s revenue bested Makati and garnered kudos from the international community as well, including championing and hosting the East ASEAN Growth Area (EAGA) – the seminal concept which led to the formation of growth clusters like CALABARZON, SOCSARGEN-SK, and all the chimeras you can muster – not bad for an urban insurrection laboratory – certainly does not sound like 80% failure to me.
Nearly everyone is focused on the current crop of voters – and this current government or the next administrations created by this crop of voters. Thus, that base is already covered, my presence is not needed there because there are other people who are already attending to that concern.
My priority is to focus my efforts on the next crop of voters – the young ones who are still imbibed with zeal, a fresh outlook, a willingness to try something new.
To assist/equip them with the tools that will allow them to use the knowledge at their disposal to make informed choices that resonate with their personal values with integrity.
May 5, 2009 at 5:19 am
I was not given a good glimpse of the works of our senate by pekeng-peryodistas. I good a good sense of American senate thru their peryodistas.
Pekeng-peryodistas didn’t enlight people on invistigative process and sanctity of evidenciary procedures. I was enlighten by American perydistas.
Our pekeng-peryodistas has nothing to offer.
Here’s a good economic sense to all pekeng-peryodistas sense they just parrot what the newsmakers spew AND NOT QUESTIONING IT.
Why not terminate all beat reporters and instead request faxed press releases from the newsmakers. It makes economic sense. Since beeat reporters don’t ask questions anyways.
Sensical questions are queried from uncredentialed blogsites not from stupid peryodistas!
May 5, 2009 at 9:33 am
The whole time that GMA is president – there is nothing like this one in our collective memory.
We are given a good glimpse of the real workings in Malacanang, the Senate, the House of Representatives, the Court of Appeals, the Philippine National Police, and perhaps, the Supreme Court (at least jcc could attest to this claim).
Primer:
That’s because the Internet has made it possible to have access to all the information. You no longer to get the news from a syndicated newsfeed – you have live interactive streaming information in real-time.
This same access was not available before, thus, GMA appears to be incomparable to any of her predecessors.
May 4, 2009 at 11:00 pm
We think differently. Everybody is Unique in this world. Your views,
opinions and the way we look at things are entirely different. What
is food to you, may be poison to me. We also have our own way of doing a job. Some do it fast, some do it slow, some dont know how to do it at all. You must be thankful you are not a Robot, like some
Politicians.
It is in arriving a Common Ground, where we can agree. Some sort of
a Consensus that we can work together and live peacefully in this Planet Earth. A good Leader is the one that can build a Working
Consensus between individuals of diametrically opposing views. Any
Presidential Aspirant can take this Blog Post cue. We Filipinos
love to debate and give our opinions. This is healthy for a Democratic society.
May 4, 2009 at 11:21 pm
Let me get this straight to you benigno, I have travelled the world I can guarantee you, it’s not the people of this country but its the people who run this country. There’s something wrong the way PUBLIC SERVICE is managed in this country. There’s no teamwprk among government personnel instead Teamwork among PUBLIC SERVANTS can be a threat and a personal liability. No one understand this concept. It’s a basic theory of governance and management. It’s a “Let’s work together kinda thing” kanya kanya sila….
Leyetenean, I find this quiet a contradiction of your being republicanin the US whos espouses less government bit more people. ( revisit Bobby Jindal response to Obama.
And I dont know but I also travel a lot and I dont see it the way you do. And I can also guarantee you that its not the people who run th country but an interpplay of people and government. It actually and interpaly of poeple and government.
And why FV still allow benigno to write. The answer is really simple. FV doesn’t think the way you do. That when you disagree with a writer the solutionis to shut that writer off.
You once again disappoint me with this post.
May 5, 2009 at 5:22 am
Rego, Rego, Rego. You must be a true blue Flips.
A flip who saw Europe thru Euro train in 7 days annd 7 nights makes humbug that they knew Europe inside out.
Rego is one of them.
It’s not the government. It’s the people. Errrr …. the government actually is the people …
It’s not the elected … it’s the people … How oblivious can you get … please do not mention that you have travelled around the world again … pleeez lang …
May 5, 2009 at 6:18 am
rego,
my being republican has nothing to do with philippine…
fair enough for you to protect benigno. i can’t take that away from you. i don’t care either than I have disappointed you because I am not here to please you. sorry rego, take your disappointment somewhere . besides, i was speaking to bong, benigno and primer.
May 4, 2009 at 11:33 pm
“High places is where they were appointed. Going back to solution, who among the three branches of government should implement and must check existing conflict of interest. The people of this country has no time to “check and balance” . Mang Juan and Pedro are concern what to bring on the table to feed their families. Benigno expect them to get involve in public management and provide solution? Therefore, if Benigno will become a public servant, he will just sit pretty and incompetent? ”
Leytenean,
Your personal hatred of benigno is becoming a problem. I suggest you deal with that first before you react to his post If you care to read carefully what he wrote he is actually saying something about a system that will do the check and balance that you really wanted.
when he said ”
It is our duty to:
(a) Select the right leaders;
(b) Use the system to hold them accountable; and,
(c) Hold ourselves accountable for the quality of the leaders we choose using the system
You see leytenean, I really believe that benigno is not the problem. Its YOU!
May 4, 2009 at 11:42 pm
Rego, self-appointed President of benign0 International Fans’ Club.
For somebody who claims to have traveled, you are just so clueless. Last time I checked, the USof A is not the world.
Travel more, to enhance your world view. You could have better idols than a migrant in the Down Under.
May 4, 2009 at 11:50 pm
Phil:
It’s the same world view in the US, Europe, Australia:
It is our duty to:
(a) Select the right leaders;
(b) Use the system to hold them accountable; and,
(c) Hold ourselves accountable for the quality of the leaders we choose using the system
Does that make all Americans, Europeans, and Australians Benign0 fans? That’s absurd.
May 4, 2009 at 11:56 pm
Travel with your fingetips in your computer. Any information is
available on your fingertips.
May 5, 2009 at 5:23 am
Flips hates people who speakengese goot country club irish-accented englischtzes and make good logical ssense …
It’s natural for Flips.
Flips hate truths, too.
Oh, by the way, I’m not in Benign0’s fans club mail list. that’s for sure.
May 5, 2009 at 6:20 am
whatever Rego.. sure I am the problem not benigno. do i care? No because I know myself very well. I don’t hide and lie to people. In short.. I am true… oh di ba? LOL hahaha. you tickle me today. thanks rego… have a nice day
May 6, 2009 at 12:38 am
of course. leytenean. everybody knows everyone here and believe in themselves so much.
The point is Benigno is suggesting something and you dont agree. Instead of threshing out your differrences with him you went out to diss him personally belieiving that and trying to impress people that you are better than him or your idea better than him.
If you indeed have one why dont you just present it the way benigz did. Make an entry here of your idea and the readers here will peruse it and will comment on it.
Sabi nga ni Tasio respetuhan lang yan eh.
May 4, 2009 at 11:55 pm
Lois Roy a Benign0 fan?
Obama a Benign0 fan?
<blockquote?Last night Barack Obama spoke to Americans as adults. He told America that responsibility for others is not just a stupid value for chumps — but the definition of begin a grown-up.
Dang, Obama must be a Benign0 fan.
May 4, 2009 at 11:56 pm
Lois Roy a Benign0 fan?
Obama a Benign0 fan?
<blockquote?Last night Barack Obama spoke to Americans as adults. He told America that responsibility for others is not just a stupid value for chumps — but the definition of begin a grown-up.
Dang, Obama must be a Benign0 fan.
May 4, 2009 at 11:58 pm
benign0 is a fan of the “personal responsibility fan club”.
as I am. as Obama. as others. the lines are drawn.
May 5, 2009 at 5:41 am
This is infantile. Surely, no one is arguing againt Personal Responsibility or the Amercan Way! Not I, said the Cat.
What is at issue is the assertion of Benigz that the Filipino People have a Character Flaw, and that this Character Flaw is what explains their failure.
You would paint him as the Patron Saint of Personal Responsibility and have drawn the lines around to defend it.
No, none of those countries are “fans” of Benign0. Neither is Obama or anybody else.
Only….you!
May 5, 2009 at 6:56 am
DJB:
I disagree that Benign0 is the Patron Saint of Personal Responsibilty. To repost my previous statement – “benign0 is a fan of the “personal responsibility fan club”.”.
Nor am I anyone’s fan. You can do better than that.
On the matter of Benign0’s assertion, I understand where he is coming from, the models he is using and why used said models, but I have my own take on the matter as well – and I have my own models as well.
When there is a convergence of support for a certain view among individuals, it becomes a “fan club” – I don’t think Benign0 has a monopoly of his world view. There a lot of Filipinos that I know of – who have a similar view but they don’t know the guy, nor have read any of his postings. Fact is, it was amusing to see that here’s this guy Benign0 who has been articulating a position that was similar to their POV.
All am saying is – just because people have similar views – it does not make any of them a fan of the other. I feel that that is wrong and demeans the dialog.
Having said that, no offense taken, tuloy ang balitaktakan.
Cheers!
May 5, 2009 at 1:16 pm
and rego too, heheh.
May 4, 2009 at 11:59 pm
‘It’s the same world view in the US, Europe, Australia.’
Fair enough. But any Civilization course would tell you that Western Civilization is only about 2,000 years old, the Anglo-Saxon dominance by the U.K. U.S., and yes the camp of outcasts and prisoner, Australia, even less.
Travel to China and India to get a feel of HIStory. We’re talking here of world view, remember? A world view of 500 years, you must be joking, dude?
May 5, 2009 at 12:19 am
what part of china?
May 5, 2009 at 1:03 am
but phil, have you ever heard of evolving civilization? the western civ represents the modern, the enlightened, the age of reason. the u.s. is a shining example of an enlightened society that gives a heinous kidnapper-terrorist his day in court instead of executing him outright. btw, the somalian “suspect” was only too happy to be brought to the u.s. to to be prosecuted, even if he is facing a life in jail for the rest of his life. do you think the equivalent of abu ghraib and gitmo would be an issue in a taliban or myanmar regimes?
May 5, 2009 at 5:45 am
Well Bencard, at least you seem to be happy over Obama’s America so far. Great leadership breeds great execution. And of course lousy leadership had led to disaster under Bush. The Republicans are eating dirt now aren’t they. I don’t like the taste of it either, but the Dems have taken over for at least a generation. It’s all the fault of the Christian Right, those evangelical nutbags that have brought it all to this for the GOP.
May 5, 2009 at 1:31 am
Phil Manila:
I suppose a Filipino word view will reinvent the wheel by using a square?
So let me ask you again – are the Americans, Australians, Europeans who put a primacy on personal responsibility fans of Benign0. Let’s keep it simple – answer with a yes or no.
World views evolve – useless views are discarded new ones are adopted.
What has the Philippines shown for its “blame the government world view”? Is its wealth more equally distributed? Is there total transparency? Is its leaders honest? What is its quality of life? If the Philippine, world view is correct, why is the Philippines still POOR?
We have been at this blame the government game since 1972, we have been sending crooks to seminars instead of jail, what do we have to show for it? More and more crooks, and a government that grows dysfunctional by the day – we can’t even conduct a bidding right.
India and China – sure they have a world view. When Mahatma Ghandi says “Be the change you want to see in the world.” is he a Benign0 fan?
Are the following personalities Benign0 fans because of their take on personal responsibility?
John Baptiste Moliére
It is not only for what we do that we are held responsible, but also for what we do not do.
Johann von Goethe
Knowing is not enough; we must apply. Willing is not enough; we must do.
Anthony Robbins
Life is a gift, and it offers us the privilege, opportunity, and responsibility to give something back by becoming more.
Epictetus
Make the best use of what is in your power, and take the rest as it happens.
Albert Einstein
Man must cease attributing his problems to his environment, and learn again to exercise his will – his personal responsibility.
Francis Bacon
Natural abilities are like natural plants; they need pruning by study.
Napoleon Hill
No alibi will save you from accepting the responsibility.
William Penn
No man is fit to command another that cannot command himself.
May 5, 2009 at 1:42 am
BongV,
“are the Americans, Australians, Europeans who put a primacy on personal responsibility fans of Benign0. Let’s keep it simple – answer with a yes or no.’
Sure sure. The Western Civ had its glory days, same with the ancient civilizations.
Tsk tsk. But you are sounding like one of the clueless chaps in this world.
Who created this current global financial meltdown, if not ‘the personal responsibility of the Anglo-Americans?”
As Mastercard would have it:
The right world view. Priceless.
May 5, 2009 at 1:50 am
Phil:
I don’t care about glory days. I am asking you with a question that can be flat out answered with a YES or NO.
So let me ask you again – are the Americans, Australians, Europeans who put a primacy on personal responsibility fans of Benign0? YES? NO?
***
The Anglo-Saxons created the mess, and they are admitting responsiblity for it, and heads are rolling in Wall Street.
If that happened in the Philippines, you will send them to a seminar?
Clueless indeed.
May 5, 2009 at 5:52 am
The answer is a flat out NO.
But you have also set up one Giant Statue of Liberty with a halo around its head of shining letters that spell “personal responsibility”. And you have drawn the lines of a magic circle around it, lining up all these great men of History and Literature, and all the greatest countries within, and now, with you marching around it, you invite us anti-Benigz Heathens to attack this Fortress of the Great American Way, of Motherhood and ApplePie.
Very good BongV. We are all William Howard Taft Avenue’s Little Brown Brothers and proud of it. I am!
May 5, 2009 at 1:47 am
Phil Manila:
I suppose a Filipino word view will reinvent the wheel by using a square?
So let me ask you again – are the Americans, Australians, Europeans who put a primacy on personal responsibility fans of Benign0. Let’s keep it simple – answer with a yes or no.
World views evolve – useless views are discarded and new ones are adopted.
What has the Philippines shown for its “blame the government world view”? Is its wealth more equally distributed? Is there total transparency? Is its leaders honest? What is its quality of life? If the Philippine, world view is correct, why is the Philippines still POOR?
We have been at this blame the government game since 1972, we have been sending crooks to seminars instead of jail, what do we have to show for it? More and more crooks, and a government that grows dysfunctional by the day – we can’t even conduct a bidding right.
India and China – sure they have a world view. When Mahatma Ghandi says “Be the change you want to see in the world.” is he a Benign0 fan?
Are the following personalities Benign0 fans because of their take on personal responsibility?
John Baptiste Moliére
It is not only for what we do that we are held responsible, but also for what we do not do.
Johann von Goethe
Knowing is not enough; we must apply. Willing is not enough; we must do.
Anthony Robbins
Life is a gift, and it offers us the privilege, opportunity, and responsibility to give something back by becoming more.
Epictetus
Make the best use of what is in your power, and take the rest as it happens.
Albert Einstein
Man must cease attributing his problems to his environment, and learn again to exercise his will – his personal responsibility.
Francis Bacon
Natural abilities are like natural plants; they need pruning by study.
Napoleon Hill
No alibi will save you from accepting the responsibility.
William Penn
No man is fit to command another that cannot command himself.
***
Speaking about world views – they CHANGE. For example, on universal suffrage. The West (in ancient Greece) started with the premise that only the educated males can vote. Through the centuries – within the same territories, the world view on suffrage has changed.
May 5, 2009 at 2:15 am
Mabuhay ka BongV!
May 5, 2009 at 6:59 am
DJB:
If it floats your boat, that’s fine by me.
May 5, 2009 at 12:07 am
Phil Manila,
You have some problem too.I was wondering how would you know that I you know that I stayed only in US only? And how you know that Leytenean indeed did soem travelling?
May 5, 2009 at 12:16 am
There will never be a Censorship in the FV Blog Website. We will
all fight it. Everybody is entitled to Post his or her opinion. Writing from our hearts. Not what others want to read. You can disagree with the Post Writer. Dont take it personally. Respect his
or her opinion.
May 5, 2009 at 12:22 am
Respect one’s opinion is one but verifying facts behind someones comment is another thing/
May 5, 2009 at 12:38 am
Verify, but respect his or her opinion. you cannot force people
to think in the way you think…he may be right. I may be wrong.
I may be right. He may be wrong. We are in the age in human history
where we dont burn people because they disagree with us. We past
that stage already…
May 5, 2009 at 12:58 am
right tasio!
May 5, 2009 at 3:15 am
Rego,
You cannot convince if your world view is from Queens, New York. Is it Rego Park, Jackson Heights, Roosevelt Avenue, etc.
I lived in many parts of the world including more than ten years in New York.
So, don’t give this BS about a world view. Puwede ba!!!
May 5, 2009 at 4:44 am
It is not where you live. It is how you think…
May 5, 2009 at 4:49 am
We dont care where you had been. We care about sensible you are
in your opinion. common sense sometimes is very uncommon.
May 5, 2009 at 1:02 am
Opinion is relative to the individual who writes it. A few years
ago the Theory of Relativity was formulated by a fuzzy haired guy
named Albert Einstein. I dont want to apply the Theory to other
fields, except in Quantum Physics. However, we can derive from the
Theory of why we Post our Blogs in different ways. And almost come
to quarreling with each other on the Blogosphere. Your opinion is
relative to: your views, knowledges, educations, bigotries and prejudices, culture and tribe, they way you were brought up, religion and political agendas, etc…In other words, from your point of view of reference…I hope we all get it from now on.
May 5, 2009 at 1:07 am
That logic is so illogical that it is illogical — unless you have been to China, then you are mistaken.
Unless you can speak Farsi, then you are blah-blah-blah.
Unless you have a PhD, then you can only be wrong.
Unless you are credentialed in economics, then you can’t talk about land reform.
Unless you have lived in the slums of Payatas, then you can’t effectively run an anti-poverty program.
But you just ate a full breakfast an hour ago, surely you can’t be hungry!!!!
But you haven’t eaten the whole day, surely you must be hungry!!!
But I only want the best for you, surely you know you can trust me!!!
May 5, 2009 at 4:41 am
As Vulcan of the Star Trek character says: “It is illogical, Captain
Kirk.”Logic to one may be common sense to another. Common sense to one, ma be logic to another. Truth is always relative, not absolute…
May 5, 2009 at 1:15 am
But of course, PhilManila never said “..unless you have been to China, then you are mistaken.”
What did PhilManila assert?
May 5, 2009 at 1:58 am
BongV,
To tell you the truth, I enjoy benign0’s wit and humor. Hello benigs. :)
I’m just enjoying the intellectual bullshit of this blog.
May 5, 2009 at 2:10 am
I will post this news article VERBATIM (any contrary view can shove it)
****
Kung Pinoy yun, they would say “naku, hindi ko problema yan, problema nang gobyerno yan”.
****
Easy to spot the difference right? Let me rub it in – It’s so simple (to spot the difference), Really.
May 5, 2009 at 6:04 am
Whilst the Door of Observation is slight ajar, folks, look!
The Opposite of a Strawman is being built by BongV. It is a Statue of Liberty with a Halo of shining letters that spell “Personal Responsibility”, flying penants of “Creative Thinking” and “Brilliant Consultancy”. It is ringed by the greatest men of History and Literature, and joined by America, Australia, England, the entire Western World! At the head are the Peter and Paul of this army of Benigz and and BongV.
Whilst we, the Barbarian Bloggers, scratching our heads on the perimeter and looking on, clueless and puzzled as to what exactly IS going on, are invited to attack and assail this Great Alliance Motherhood and Apple Pie.,
May 5, 2009 at 7:02 am
DJB:
What’s up with the silo mentality?
May 5, 2009 at 10:00 am
yeah DJB, why the pessimism?
if by motherhood, you mean “motherhood statement”/truism, then i agree…
whats wrong with a motherhood statement?
but we need to repeat it again and again… no problem with doing that, right?
actually, my only problem is that i don’t know if that is what benign0 actually wrote above:
what i saw was political parties getting their act together, their responsibilities. OK rin yun. makes sense. but its not the same as personal (citizen) responsibility…
May 5, 2009 at 3:00 am
quite the contrary, it’s easier to spot the similarity between many pinoys, on one hand, and the particular group the speech is directed at, on the other hand. both rely on government to make them “happy” and satisfied, not on their own effort and labor. they both attribute their life’s miseries on alleged exploitation, neglect, discrimination, and not enough hand-outs. they trash their neighborhood, their schools, their cities and their own homes. they procreate irresponsibly like rabbits, hoping to build a fanatic base that will ensure political dominance for all times.
that’s where the bulk of obama’s political support comes from. they see him as the “messiah” who will deliver them from their miserable existence. obama has no choice but to exhort them to be personally responsible for themselves. he knows that he cannot fulfill their expectations just by printing trillions upon trillions of dollars just to keep the country afloat.
May 5, 2009 at 3:41 am
Bencard:
Good call. The similarity is GLARING.
And the exhortation was spot on – such exhortation on personal responsibility is not benign0s monopoly – there are others who have come before him, and many more coming – who have the same point of view – who can’t tell Benign0 from Adam.
Thus to say, that anyone who espouses personal responsibility is a mini-Benign0 or like Benign0 is flat-out WRONG.
May 5, 2009 at 6:16 am
BongV,
Hahaha. You probably hurt Bencard’s feelings just now because Bencard is one of those “others” who have come before Benign0 defending Personal Responsibility. In fact, Benign0 GOT his ideas from Bencard to begin with! But some of our most entertaining exchanges around here have been between your newly designated Saints Peter and Paul. Except it’s more like Cain and Abel. Or no..no…Malakas and Maganda!
May 5, 2009 at 7:21 am
DJB:
Our views have been shaped before this blog came into existence. I am sure we can agree on that matter.
On getting ideas – isn’t that why you and I are here? To learn more about other individuals’ point of view and contribute as well? Where’s the mutual contagion?
I have no information to make a determination that Benign0 GOT his ideas from Bencard. If he did, then isn’t that a good thing?
But is Bencard the only advocate of personal responsibility on this planet of 6 billion people, in a country of 80 million people, Bencard is the sole source of the concept of personal responsibility? Surely, he was not born with said knowledge, he got it from somewhere, too.
But, we digress. Asserting the primacy of personal responsibility does not mean that we turn a blind eye on the inefficiencies of government. What’s being said is let us assume personal responsibility in selecting the people who will run government because if we do not choose well, we will lose a whole lot of money and resources, and we have to be on our toes always waiting for the next shenanigans.
I would prefer to use my time in a more productive manner like generating new income streams or have more quality leisure time, than having to spend my time worrying about what will the idiot do next? Or what will the thief steal next? I don’t need that.
Why select a person with the skill sets of a janitor for a CEO position? Or why select a known thief for a CEO position? A thief will steal – it’s his nature. And then we have to go through the entire riot act of recovering all that money, all the theatrics of the investigations, the allegations and the counter-allegations. Don’t you get tired of reruns?
Why should we go through all that if we can be proactive by doing due diligence in our choices of leaders. Let us address the problem before it starts.
May 6, 2009 at 2:27 am
On the premise that the politicians will not cheat again…
May 5, 2009 at 8:10 am
i never had any illusion that i’m the only advocate of personal responsibility, much less that i spawned the idea all by myself. when i first participated in forums like this, i was amazed at the lopsided popularity of government bashing and the rarity of personal responsibility advocacy. i had running exchanges with cvj, mlq3, abe margallo and others who seem to take the view, albeit sincerely and passionately, that the happiness of the people is the sole raison d’etre of governments, regardless of whether or not it’s personally deserved.
it’s nice to see others in this blog lending their powerful voices on the side of personal accountability for the people’s own welfare
and betterment.
May 5, 2009 at 8:41 am
Bencard, Bencard, Bencard. The immediate change for personal responsibility is for your God to devinely intervene. Look, God devinely intervened in behalf of Israel’s jews. Why can’t your god intervene in us instead of blaming us for extreme gung-gonensss … HA!H!HA!HA1HA!
I know you have plenty of stock excuses … let me hear it! HA!HA!HA!HA!HA! Please be original because i’ve heard the rest of them !!! HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!
May 5, 2009 at 8:44 am
sorry, girlie, but you are not my type.
May 5, 2009 at 9:56 am
Bencard, Bencard, Bencard, please pray for the good of the Flipland. See if your God hear it!!!! HA!ha!ha!ha!
May 5, 2009 at 10:28 am
Bong,
This is exactly the role of Comelec to educate the people on how to elect their representatives. The people should be encourage to vote on issues that wil drectly impact their future and the lives of the people in the community.
Comelec should have a better strategy in setting the tone and provide details of voting rights including rules and regulations during election. what’s legal or illegal? It is also advisable that the people must be educated that conflict of interest can exist when brothers and sisters are running for office. Mang Juan and Pedro must be provided access to such information.
Bong, you are not mang juan and the 80 million poor. many do not think the way you think. remember the short cut? what is then required of comelec to educate the people? a billboard? a brochure? how does comelec reach the people? does it wait for the people to come during election? or this office has a legal duty to go out there and perform?
the people has the dty to vote but to teach them how to vote is the job description of Comelec. The outcome should be a clean and honest election. kapuy uy…
May 5, 2009 at 10:52 am
sorry to say leytenian, the COMELEC shouldn’t be involved in telling people HOW to vote (i.e. what policies are important, etc…)
that is for people to decide for themselves… this is correct, coz voting is our right, and the govt shouldn’t tell people what their priorities are.
legally, the comelec has the following functions:
http://www.comelec.gov.ph/aboutus/functions.html
May 5, 2009 at 10:57 am
leytenia:
In the Philippines, people leave the job to the COMELEC.
In the developed economies, educate themselves beyond the confines of the COMELEC. You know this thingies called Political Action Committees? It’s not in the Philippines right?
The COMELEC has only enough resources. If indeed we are our brother’s keeper (or are we?) we will see to it that we, ourselves make an effort to reach out and explain – volunteerism/community service, people’s empowerment, power to the people.
Let me put it in proper context and let one of the founders of modern democracy speak:
Thomas Jefferson on Politics & Government
39. Educating the People
An enlightened citizenry is indispensable for the proper functioning of a republic. Self-government is not possible unless the citizens are educated sufficiently to enable them to exercise oversight. It is therefore imperative that the nation see to it that a suitable education be provided for all its citizens. It should be noted, that when Jefferson speaks of “science,” he is often referring to knowledge or learning in general.
“I know no safe depositary of the ultimate powers of the society but the people themselves; and if we think them not enlightened enough to exercise their control with a wholesome discretion, the remedy is not to take it from them, but to inform their discretion by education. This is the true corrective of abuses of constitutional power.” –Thomas Jefferson to William C. Jarvis, 1820. ME 15:278
“Every government degenerates when trusted to the rulers of the people alone. The people themselves, therefore, are its only safe depositories. And to render even them safe, their minds must be improved to a certain degree.” –Thomas Jefferson: Notes on Virginia Q.XIV, 1782. ME 2:207
“The most effectual means of preventing [the perversion of power into tyranny are] to illuminate, as far as practicable, the minds of the people at large, and more especially to give them knowledge of those facts which history exhibits, that possessed thereby of the experience of other ages and countries, they may be enabled to know ambition under all its shapes, and prompt to exert their natural powers to defeat its purposes.” –Thomas Jefferson: Diffusion of Knowledge Bill, 1779. FE 2:221, Papers 2:526
“The information of the people at large can alone make them the safe as they are the sole depositary of our political and religious freedom.” –Thomas Jefferson to William Duane, 1810. ME 12:417
“The diffusion of information and the arraignment of all abuses at the bar of public reason, I deem [one of] the essential principles of our government, and consequently [one of] those which ought to shape its administration.” –Thomas Jefferson: 1st Inaugural Address, 1801. ME 3:322
“Though [the people] may acquiesce, they cannot approve what they do not understand.” –Thomas Jefferson: Opinion on Apportionment Bill, 1792. ME 3:211
No Freedom Without Education
“If a nation expects to be ignorant and free in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be.” –Thomas Jefferson to Charles Yancey, 1816. ME 14:384
“Convinced that the people are the only safe depositories of their own liberty, and that they are not safe unless enlightened to a certain degree, I have looked on our present state of liberty as a short-lived possession unless the mass of the people could be informed to a certain degree.” –Thomas Jefferson to Littleton Waller Tazewell, 1805.
“No nation is permitted to live in ignorance with impunity.” –Thomas Jefferson: Virginia Board of Visitors Minutes, 1821. ME 19:408
“Freedom [is] the first-born daughter of science.” –Thomas Jefferson to Francois D’Ivernois, 1795. ME 9:297
“Light and liberty go together.” –Thomas Jefferson to Tench Coxe, 1795.
“Above all things I hope the education of the common people will be attended to, convinced that on their good sense we may rely with the most security for the preservation of a due degree of liberty.” –Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 1787. Madison Version FE 4:480
Education and Republican Government
“[I have] a conviction that science is important to the preservation of our republican government, and that it is also essential to its protection against foreign power.” –Thomas Jefferson to —–, 1821. ME 15:340
“There are two subjects, indeed, which I shall claim a right to further as long as I breathe: the public education, and the sub-division of counties into wards. I consider the continuance of republican government as absolutely hanging on these two hooks.” –Thomas Jefferson to Joseph C. Cabell, 1814. ME 14:84
“The value of science to a republican people, the security it gives to liberty by enlightening the minds of its citizens, the protection it affords against foreign power, the virtue it inculcates, the just emulation of the distinction it confers on nations foremost in it; in short, its identification with power, morals, order and happiness (which merits to it premiums of encouragement rather than repressive taxes), are considerations [that should] always [be] present and [bear] with their just weight.” –Thomas Jefferson: On the Book Duty, 1821.
“Whenever the people are well-informed, they can be trusted with their own government;… whenever things get so far wrong as to attract their notice, they may be relied on to set them to rights.” –Thomas Jefferson to Richard Price, 1789. ME 7:253
“[In a republic, according to Montesquieu in Spirit of the Laws, IV,ch.5,] ‘virtue may be defined as the love of the laws and of our country. As such love requires a constant preference of public to private interest, it is the source of all private virtue; for they are nothing more than this very preference itself… Now a government is like everything else: to preserve it we must love it… Everything, therefore, depends on establishing this love in a republic; and to inspire it ought to be the principal business of education; but the surest way of instilling it into children is for parents to set them an example.’” –Thomas Jefferson: copied into his Commonplace Book.
“In the constitution of Spain as proposed by the late Cortes, there was a principle entirely new to me:… that no person born after that day should ever acquire the rights of citizenship until he could read and write. It is impossible sufficiently to estimate the wisdom of this provision. Of all those which have been thought of for securing fidelity in the administration of the government, constant reliance to the principles of the constitution, and progressive amendments with the progressive advances of the human mind or changes in human affairs, it is the most effectual.” –Thomas Jefferson to Pierre Samuel Dupont de Nemours, 1816. ME 14:491
“[The] provision [in the new constitution of Spain] which, after a certain epoch, disfranchises every citizen who cannot read and write… is the fruitful germ of the improvement of everything good and the correction of everything imperfect in the present constitution. This will give you an enlightened people and an energetic public opinion which will control and enchain the aristocratic spirit of the government.” –Thomas Jefferson to Chevalier de Ouis, 1814. ME 14:130
Government’s Responsibility to Educate
“And say, finally, whether peace is best preserved by giving energy to the government or information to the people. This last is the most certain and the most legitimate engine of government. Educate and inform the whole mass of the people. Enable them to see that it is their interest to preserve peace and order, and they will preserve them. And it requires no very high degree of education to convince them of this. They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty.” –Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 1787. (Forrest version) ME 6:392
“It is an axiom in my mind that our liberty can never be safe but in the hands of the people themselves, and that, too, of the people with a certain degree of instruction. This is the business of the state to effect, and on a general plan.” –Thomas Jefferson to George Washington, 1786. ME 19:24
Educate Every Citizen
“A system of general instruction, which shall reach every description of our citizens from the richest to the poorest, as it was the earliest, so will it be the latest of all the public concerns in which I shall permit myself to take an interest.” –Thomas Jefferson to Joseph C. Cabell, 1818. FE 10:102
“It is highly interesting to our country, and it is the duty of its functionaries, to provide that every citizen in it should receive an education proportioned to the condition and pursuits of his life.” –Thomas Jefferson to Peter Carr, 1814. ME 19:213
“The mass of our citizens may be divided into two classes — the laboring and the learned. The laboring will need the first grade of education to qualify them for their pursuits and duties; the learned will need it as a foundation for further acquirements.” –Thomas Jefferson to Peter Carr, 1814. ME 19:213
“By… [selecting] the youths of genius from among the classes of the poor, we hope to avail the State of those talents which nature has sown as liberally among the poor as the rich, but which perish without use if not sought for and cultivated.” –Thomas Jefferson: Notes on Virginia Q.XIV, 1782. ME 2:206
“Instead of an aristocracy of wealth, of more harm and danger than benefit to society, to make an opening for the aristocracy of virtue and talent, which nature has wisely provided for the direction of the interests of society and scattered with equal hand through all its conditions, was deemed essential to a well-ordered republic.” –Thomas Jefferson: Autobiography, 1821. MW 1:54
“I do most anxiously wish to see the highest degrees of education given to the higher degrees of genius and to all degrees of it, so much as may enable them to read and understand what is going on in the world and to keep their part of it going on right; for nothing can keep it right but their own vigilant and distrustful superintendence.” –Thomas Jefferson to Mann Page, 1795. ME 9:30
Importance for Personal Development
“If the children are untaught, their ignorance and vices will in future life cost us much dearer in their consequences than it would have done in their correction by a good education.” –Thomas Jefferson to Joseph C. Cabell, 1818. FE 10:99
“If the Wise be the happy man… he must be virtuous too; for, without virtue, happiness cannot be. This then is the true scope of all academical emulation.” –Thomas Jefferson to Amos J. Cook, 1816. ME 14:405
“The boys of the rising generation are to be the men of the next, and the sole guardians of the principles we deliver over to them.” –Thomas Jefferson to Samuel Knox, 1810. ME 12:360
“The reflections that the boys of this age are to be the men of the next; that they should be prepared to receive the holy charge which we are cherishing to deliver over to them; that in establishing an institution of wisdom for them, we secure it to all our future generations; that in fulfilling this duty, we bring home to our own bosoms the sweet consolation of seeing our sons rising under a luminous tuition, to destinies of high promise; these are considerations which will occur to all.” –Thomas Jefferson to James Breckinridge, 1821. ME 15:314
Training Republican Statesmen
“Nor must we omit to mention among the benefits of education the incalculable advantage of training up able counselors to administer the affairs of our country in all its departments, legislative, executive and judiciary, and to bear their proper share in the councils of our national government: nothing more than education advancing the prosperity, the power, and the happiness of a nation.” –Thomas Jefferson: Report for University of Virginia, 1818.
“Laws will be wisely formed and honestly administered in proportion as those who form and administer them are wise and honest; whence it becomes expedient for promoting the public happiness that those persons whom nature has endowed with genius and virtue should be rendered by liberal education worthy to receive and able to guard the sacred deposit of the rights and liberties of their fellow citizens; and that they should be called to that charge without regard to wealth, birth or other accidental condition or circumstance. But the indigence of the greater number disabling them from so educating at their own expense those of their children whom nature has fitly formed and disposed to become useful instruments for the public, it is better that such should be sought for and educated at the common expense of all, than that the happiness of all should be confined to the weak or wicked.” –Thomas Jefferson: Diffusion of Knowledge Bill, 1779. FE 2:221, Papers 2:527
“We are now trusting to those who are against us in position and principle, to fashion to their own form the minds and affections of our youth… This canker is eating on the vitals of our existence, and if not arrested at once, will be beyond remedy.” –Thomas Jefferson to James Breckinridge, 1821. ME 15:315
“The reward of esteem, respect and gratitude [is] due to those who devote their time and efforts to render the youths of every successive age fit governors for the next.” –Thomas Jefferson to Hugh L. White, et al., 1810. ME 12:388
Hope for the Improvement of Mankind
“I look to the diffusion of light and education as the resource most to be relied on for ameliorating the conditions, promoting the virtue and advancing the happiness of man.” –Thomas Jefferson to Cornelius Camden Blatchly, 1822. ME 15:399
“If the condition of man is to be progressively ameliorated, as we fondly hope and believe, education is to be the chief instrument in effecting it.” –Thomas Jefferson to M. A. Jullien, 1818. ME 15:172
“What but education has advanced us beyond the condition of our indigenous neighbors? And what chains them to their present state of barbarism and wretchedness but a bigoted veneration for the supposed superlative wisdom of their fathers and the preposterous idea that they are to look backward for better things and not forward, longing, as it should seem, to return to the days of eating acorns and roots rather than indulge in the degeneracies of civilization?” –Thomas Jefferson: Report for University of Virginia, 1818.
“I feel… an ardent desire to see knowledge so disseminated through the mass of mankind that it may, at length, reach even the extremes of society: beggars and kings.” –Thomas Jefferson: Reply to American Philosophical Society, 1808.
Mao nang way mahitabo kay nagsige ra ka ug kapoy kapoy pagkatamad ba nimo oi.
May 5, 2009 at 11:18 am
gabbyd,
then comelec must add more functions. it’s not enough. http://www.usa.gov/Citizen/Topics/Voting.shtml
and bong, please… it’s too long. make it short. kapuy in a way na dugay kaayo ka makasabot uy. please read my reply to your new comment above. i like your promises to the people- “stop and investigate? ” hahaha
May 5, 2009 at 12:00 pm
ah, if its the mechanics of voting, puwede pa…
but if its the comelec saying “vote for people with quality A, B, C…”… thats wrong.
May 5, 2009 at 5:24 pm
leytenian:
it’s up to the people if they buy it. if am a crook and they buy it – malas na lang nila, they didn’t due diligence.
it’s too long
yup. the path of least resistance. or the indolence of filipinos. – read up on Thomas Jefferson instead of giving seminars to crooks – SEND THEM TO JAIL – you are wasting taxpayers money.
May 6, 2009 at 2:28 am
If you are a crook and you commit fraud to be elected, whose
fault? The COMELEC?
May 5, 2009 at 11:19 am
gabbyd,
How it is going to be done then? LOL
May 5, 2009 at 11:35 am
bong,
exactly… tell that to the comelec and the educator of this country. Now who’s DUTY is that? what is the role of public servants/pubic service.. kapuy na jud ko nimo bong… wa pa gihapon mo connect? OK.. let’s pretend you are manager of comelec and you want the peole to be well informed on their voting rights, how is it going to be done then? ( benigno)
bong and gabbyd , you both know for a fact that the outcome could have been corrupt or cloudy. why would people has to live with DOUBT?
adding more functions and giving this office more responsibilities, may result to provide a well informed pinoy voters.
da uy… kapuy kaayo pinas uy…
May 5, 2009 at 11:44 am
HA!HA!HA!HA! Once we gradweyt kaleds, it’s pekeng-peryodistas respansibility and pipol’s … prablem is bot ar nat teking respansibility !
Ol we ker is perpekt englischtzes!!!! HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!
May 5, 2009 at 11:45 am
The perpekter the englischtzes the intelligenter!!!! ha!ha!ha!ha!ha! WHAT A SCREWED LOGIC!!!! HA!HA!HA
May 5, 2009 at 5:37 pm
leytenia:
Sure thing – education – hmmmmm… Have we been electing leaders who support education – whose solution to the lack of classroom is just pack more in because the money for classrooms was reallocated, pilfered, or worse, was not allotted.
Here you are mister voter – Raul Roco, the candidate who supports education, shaped up the education ministry, has shown exemplary performance. And on the other corner, Estrada, boozing, womanizing, thug.
You need COMELEC and a PhD to figure out that Erap is incompetent and does not have integrity compared to Roco?
Eh di naghanap ka martilyong pinukpok sa ulo mo. It’s Erap fault that despite his incompetence he got elected? And out of his incompetence, he couldn’t make any sense of the policy directions – you will call this a problem of management?
If you didn’t put him there in the first place, you’ll rather investigate and give him a seminar, rallies, and the whole nine yards of a national temper tantrum – you could have saved yourself the trouble by note voting for him.
Don’t wait for the COMELEC or the school to educate you on issues, get out there, take personal responsibility to know your candidates.
It is that hard to figure that out?
May 5, 2009 at 6:42 pm
Bong, you see until now you have not accepted the very fact. Accept it instead of blaming that its the people’s personal irresponsibility. How do you manage that issue if you happen to be a politician? That’s a fact, a problem- why blame if you know for a fact that pinoys are dumb and are uneducated.
Assume you are the president of this country. try this…. Apply, Implement and follow up your cut and paste theory..
Who did Thomas Jefferson talk to? Its his other colleague not the american people.
uy bong uy… think and think….. my goodness. I will be late for work again. LOL
Now who are you talking to, me right? now let’s assume we both are one of the policymakers. How do we educate mang juan and pedro? mang juan and pedro have been like that for a while and you expect them to take responsibility? Assuming we have accessed to authority, how else is it going to be done then?
so Bong, for election problem, would you blame the people or accept it that they need to be educated. Now who’s job is that? and How else is it going to be done then?
And you said: go out there and take responsibility? bong.. mang juan and pedro are hungry, they want 100O pesos for their votes. that’s a problem and that’s a fact. Manage the problem instead of blaming.
May 5, 2009 at 7:33 pm
so Bong, for election problem, would you blame the people or accept it that they need to be educated. Now who’s job is that? and How else is it going to be done then?
Both. They need to be educated. And they need to be responsible for educating themselves as well, and not rely on an unreliable government.
Manage the problem instead of blaming.
Problem solving 101:
* Identify the problem
* Craft a Solution
* Manage the implementation of the solution.
In this case, Management comes AFTER the fact, NOT before the fact.
now let’s assume we both are one of the policymakers. How do we educate mang juan and pedro? mang juan and pedro have been like that for a while and you expect them to take responsibility?
Mang Juan and Pedro have been like that for awhile, but with effort, discipline, an enabling environment and personal responsibility for their success – they will not stay “like that for awhile”.
Moreover, they have been “like that for awhile” because you as a manager have been underperforming “like that for awhile”. Mang Juan and Pedro, ought to FIRE YOU for keeping them “like that for awhile” – it’s their responsiblity to FIRE YOU, and if they don’t Mang Juan and Pedro for your ineptitude.
Manny Pacquiao could have been “like that for awhile” – why is it that a cargador rose to world-class boxing prominence? Why is he the exception instead of being the norm? What was he doing that others were not doing – Manny took personal responsibility for his success – notwithstanding a DECREPIT VIRTUALLY NON-EXISTENT government sports program. If Manny relied on the government, he will still be a cargador today, possibly another warm body in the lynch mob.
How do you manage that?
From the strategic view, you invest in education, you upgrade the curriculum put in more ethics applications in match, science, literature – not just ethics class saves you money from ethics reforms seminars for thieves who shouldn’t be there in the first place.
Now, if are not able to follow th
May 5, 2009 at 7:39 pm
so Bong, for election problem, would you blame the people or accept it that they need to be educated. Now who’s job is that? and How else is it going to be done then?
Both. They need to be educated. And they need to be responsible for educating themselves as well, and not rely on an unreliable government.
Manage the problem instead of blaming.
Problem solving 101:
* Identify the problem
* Craft a Solution
* Manage the implementation of the solution.
In this case, Management comes AFTER the fact, NOT before the fact.
now let’s assume we both are one of the policymakers. How do we educate mang juan and pedro? mang juan and pedro have been like that for a while and you expect them to take responsibility?
Mang Juan and Pedro have been like that for awhile, but with effort, discipline, an enabling environment and personal responsibility for their success – they will not stay “like that for awhile”.
Moreover, they have been “like that for awhile” because you as a manager have been underperforming “like that for awhile”. Mang Juan and Pedro, ought to FIRE YOU for keeping them “like that for awhile” – it’s their responsiblity to FIRE YOU, and if they don’t Mang Juan and Pedro for your ineptitude.
Manny Pacquiao could have been “like that for awhile” – why is it that a cargador rose to world-class boxing prominence? Why is he the exception instead of being the norm? What was he doing that others were not doing – Manny took personal responsibility for his success – notwithstanding a DECREPIT VIRTUALLY NON-EXISTENT government sports program. If Manny relied on the government, he will still be a cargador today, possibly another warm body in the lynch mob.
How do you manage that?
From the strategic view, you invest in education, you upgrade the curriculum put in more ethics applications in match, science, literature – not just ethics class saves you money from ethics reforms seminars for thieves who shouldn’t be there in the first place.
But, you don’t get to become policymaker, until the people select you.
Why don’t you actually run for public office, let’s see how many votes your management credentials will make you in your barangay. I will go out on a limb to say – you, leytenia WILL NOT WIN. Someone else who provided the sardines, booze, and entertainment WILL WIN.
Thus, far, only the provinces of Pampanga and Isabel have seen the light – their citizens finally decided to do what is right, and took the responsibility of electing the right people – eh di bumilis ang collection ng quarry fees! It has been “like that for awhile”. The people exercised power judiciously, well, it is no longer “like that” in Isabela and Pampanga.
May 6, 2009 at 12:07 am
If Manny Pacquiao had been educated well by the Public School System, he should know fully well that he probably will either be back to being kargador or remain rich by being as corrupt as his ninongs and ninangs if he pursues his political ambitions. And per benign0’s postulates, the provinciano-maleducados will surely vote for him.
You know, Vitwater.
That is because of the failure of government primarily and failure of the people themselves, secondarily.
I feel sorry for the people of Saranggani already.
May 6, 2009 at 7:52 am
I feel sorry for the people of Saranggani already.
Don’t worry, they’ll be happy. Ignorance is bliss.
May 6, 2009 at 4:16 am
Manny Pacquiao could have been “like that for awhile” – why is it that a cargador rose to world-class boxing prominence? Why is he the exception instead of being the norm? What was he doing that others were not doing – Manny took personal responsibility for his success – notwithstanding a DECREPIT VIRTUALLY NON-EXISTENT government sports program. If Manny relied on the government, he will still be a cargador today, possibly another warm body in the lynch mob.
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A very execellent example Bong V
May 6, 2009 at 5:32 am
Bong,
talent is talent . don’t assume that out of 10 cargador , one will become a prominent boxer. your example is not reasonable. it maybe reasonable to say that out of 80 million pinoy, there should exist one great boxer. same concept of talent applies to the other countries.
also on your Problem solving 101, share that to all the personalities in public office. but anyway, i cannot waste my time with you. kapuy na ko nimo :)
May 6, 2009 at 7:50 am
ay sus sige ra palusot ug kapoy – tiguwang na man gud ka :D
So, you have not answered me yet –
will you have an albularyo perform radical hysterectomy to you? the answer is only YES or NO para dili kapoy.
will you have an albularyo perform colonoscopy on your father ? the answer is only YES or NO para dili kapoy.
will you have an albularyo perform triple heart bypass on your siblings ? the answer is only YES or NO para dili kapoy.
May 6, 2009 at 7:57 am
talent is talent
Without the enabling environment of the US sports facilities and the American coach – Manny’s talent will go the way of Penalosa and Navarette. naniguwang na lang ka manang wa gihapon ka nakat-on.
May 6, 2009 at 8:06 am
bong,
hahaha, got yah… i was just being honest that i got tired of you and I cannot waste my time with you. My age is never old. What’s the discussion got to do with my pretty face and 38 years of hot pursuit. hahahah. you tickle me. nah…. never mind. DJB is my favorite. :)
May 6, 2009 at 8:44 am
ay sus sige ra palusot ug kapoy – tiguwang na man gud ka :D
So, you have not answered me yet -
will you have an albularyo perform radical hysterectomy to you? the answer is only YES or NO para dili kapoy.
will you have an albularyo perform colonoscopy on your father ? the answer is only YES or NO para dili kapoy.
will you have an albularyo perform triple heart bypass on your siblings ? the answer is only YES or NO para dili kapoy.
May 6, 2009 at 8:46 am
with my pretty face and 38 years of hot pursuit. hahahah.
I recall you telling me that you are older than me, but look younger.
guess what you mistook me as being younger than you, when I am factually older than you.
Trust me, I am not surprised :D
May 6, 2009 at 9:16 am
oh bong, true i am surprised that you are older than me. I was expecting that your arguments will reflect your life experience and age. hmmmnnnnn. I really have thought you are younger because you sound like one. :)
May 6, 2009 at 11:53 am
ay sus sige ra palusot ug kapoy – tiguwang na man gud ka :D
So, you have not answered me yet -
will you have a janitor perform radical hysterectomy to you? the answer is only YES or NO para dili kapoy.
will you have a janitor perform colonoscopy on your father ? the answer is only YES or NO para dili kapoy.
will you have a a janitor perform triple heart bypass on your siblings ? the answer is only YES or NO para dili kapoy.
May 6, 2009 at 11:55 am
will you have a street sweeper perform triple heart bypass on your siblings ? the answer is only YES or NO para dili kapoy.
do you have the honesty to answer YES OR NO?
you have written a long reply to me, but you can’t even answer YES or NO?
So I will ask you again?
will you have a street sweeper perform triple heart bypass on your siblings ? the answer is only YES or NO para dili kapoy.
May 6, 2009 at 6:57 pm
going once. going twice….
leytenia:
for someone who reflects life experience and age – I wonder why you can’t answer YES or NO to a simple question –
will you have a carpenter perform lobotomy on you? the answer is only YES or NO para dili kapoy.
will you have an albularyo perform open heart surgery on your father? the answer is only YES or NO para dili kapoy.
I’ll make it very simple for you.
A – Yes
B – No
Select a letter A or B
Hint: that’s just one letter, surely, you have the life experience and age to to hit the keyboard – and type A or B…
You expound on Management, and all your analysis, Fibonacci, you have the life experience and age to to hit the keyboard, so now, type A for Yes or B for No..
hmmm are you a toddler?
May 7, 2009 at 2:09 am
leytenean ineng,
dugay ka na sing kaka blog tonta ka pa guihapon! ( ive seen you since you were a newbie in MLQ3 and Ca T has admonished long time ago and yet you now you havent really get the true essence of blogging until now.)
if you are indeed an intelligent person that you wanted to project here, by this time you should already realized that:
1. blogging is not a stage or platform for pissing contest. its a exhange of ideas or even a battle of ideas not personalities.
If you want to top benigz or any other writers ideas do it by presenting your idea well. not by dissing out personal hatred to the writer.
I know for sure that is not what you really believe in from the very start. And you wil never ever hold to the end. You just wanted to prove benigz wrong and even worst humiliate him that is why you come up with an opposite view. The purpose of course is to impress the people here that you are much much better than him. In the end napagod ka lang without impressing anyone at all. Kumbaga you lie soooo flat in you face!
2. Blog is a public forum. Once you put your comment out there, what ever you said became a public property and is for public consumption. You can not complain at all when everybody is replying to you, be it favorable or negative. You can not choose the people that should reply to your comments. If you dont want to be bothered and want to have a one one with Bong V or GabbyD you should have emailed them or invite them to a private chatroom. That way no one will be bothering you at all.
tigilan na ang cheap na palusost like pagod ka na or you guys are so funny. You always do this eversince. Start growing up wil you?
May 7, 2009 at 5:47 am
poor bong, trying hard… I have no obligation to answer your elementary question. it doesn’t sound reasonable nor interestingly intellectual. but personally, you are interesting enough.
i will see you on the next blog ok… :) i have to do my yoga today. maybe later I will answer your elementary question.
May 7, 2009 at 6:19 am
YES.. or NO. are you retarded?
May 7, 2009 at 6:19 am
goin thrice.
leytenia, you cannot even be honest to yourself.
:D
it figures. :D
May 7, 2009 at 6:37 am
rego wrote:
leytenean ineng,
dugay ka na sing kaka blog tonta ka pa guihapon! ( ive seen you since you were a newbie in MLQ3 and Ca T has admonished long time ago and yet you now you havent really get the true essence of blogging until now.)
if you are indeed an intelligent person that you wanted to project here, by this time you should already realized that:
1. blogging is not a stage or platform for pissing contest. its a exhange of ideas or even a battle of ideas not personalities.
If you want to top benigz or any other writers ideas do it by presenting your idea well. not by dissing out personal hatred to the writer.
I know for sure that is not what you really believe in from the very start. And you wil never ever hold to the end. You just wanted to prove benigz wrong and even worst humiliate him that is why you come up with an opposite view. The purpose of course is to impress the people here that you are much much better than him. In the end napagod ka lang without impressing anyone at all. Kumbaga you lie soooo flat in you face!
2. Blog is a public forum. Once you put your comment out there, what ever you said became a public property and is for public consumption. You can not complain at all when everybody is replying to you, be it favorable or negative. You can not choose the people that should reply to your comments. If you dont want to be bothered and want to have a one one with Bong V or GabbyD you should have emailed them or invite them to a private chatroom. That way no one will be bothering you at all.
tigilan na ang cheap na palusost like pagod ka na or you guys are so funny. You always do this eversince. Start growing up wil you?
hilarious!