Those who are powerless have only one recourse to fight – laway power. And so Bambee de la Paz can only recount the events of yesterday in her blog. She was witness to her father and 14 year old brother allegedly getting beat up by Mayor Nasser Pangandaman Jr and his associates over teeing rights. The latter’s father, DAR Secretary Pangandaman (also recently appointed “peace negotiator” with the MILF) looked on.
The despotic tend to be insecure and feel a need to display their privileged position through constant reinforcement. As Pangadaman Jr. allegedly beats the De la Paz’, he cries “Hindi nila kami kilala! Sabihin mo nga sa kanila kung sino ako.”
“Hindi ninyo ako kilala. Ang yabang-yabang mo, ang tapang-tapang mo, mag-ingat ka” says Pangadaman Sr.
As I write this, there has been one article written from a formal news organization.
What the despots in government do in the premises of their public office is essentially the same as this incident currently making the rounds in the interwebs. Abuse of power and impunity are wrapped in the sophistication of legalese and legitimized by “due process” – but the spirit is that of a public official who sees no law constraining his actions. No law preventing him from doing what he wills.
The Philippine State needs civilizing really fast. It is currently run by barbarians, murderers and thieves who cannot even follow simple golf etiquette. What more the moral code of the country as embodied by our laws?
Civil Society, push back or you’ll have the awesome power of the State eat you alive.
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pulis,
you are still not getting it. here’s a link about farmers wanting to oust DAR chief. it’s not just about bambee.
http://barangayrp.wordpress.com/2009/01/02/farmers-go-online-to-oust-dar-chief/
“The DAR has never supported the farmers in their struggle. All the time that he [Pangandaman] has been there, the department has never produced good results for the farmers,” Olaes said, adding that more farmers have indicated their desire to sign the online petition.”
manuela/leytenia,
teka nga. how did this issue involved the farmers? hahaha
and please, let us just limit comments to the topic of this post. now, what is your take on the official security incident report?
and by the way, why mark my posts as spam in your blog? can’t stand somebody questioning your points of view?
still want that government run like hell by the filipinos? now your lolo got your wish!
but 25% of these filipinos want to get out of hell! uh uh…
Caffeine Sparks,
Now that the Bambee Story is turning, with more damaging facts against the dela Paz on the way, let me ask you this simple question:
HOW DO YOU FEEL? :)
See you at Starbucks :)
MADAMI TALAGANG AUSADONG POLITIKO. PAKIRAMDAM NILA SILA ANG DYOS. MASUSUNO
MADAMI TALAGANG AUSADONG POLITIKO. PAKIRAMDAM NILA SILA ANG DYOS. MASUSUNO
MADAMI TALAGANG AUSADONG POLITIKO. PAKIRAMDAM NILA SILA ANG DYOS. MAG AMANG PANGANDAMAN, MASUSUNOG DIN KAYO SA PORGATORYO KASAMA NG BOSS NYO.
here is the ultimate aray for the de la pazes:
this is the post of a certain rge in pinoygolfer.com forum. he is a member since april 2007 with 595 posts to date (he is a pioneer member i supposed, as the forum started only in end of march 2007) he placed his address as valley golf, orchard, eagle ridge so i suppoed he is personally known to many others in the philippine golfing community and is a “somebody” given his access to information sources. his preliminary statement said it all.
http://www.pinoygolfer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5801&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=pangandaman&start=180
I just spent some time with the head of the fact-finding committee. He has submitted all pertinent facts to the board and leaves it to them to make the necessary decision based on all the facts. I will outline the facts to you as it was outlined to me. Rest assured that the facts were obtained from all parties involved and all witnesses at each incident site. The statements were obtained both by the valley fact-finding group and by the NBI as well. Testimonies were recorded, verified, and re-verified. Fortunately for the parties involved, there were always witnesses to give supporting statements on the events as they occurred.
i now wonder what is take of the de la pazes and their apologists on this?
for those who care to read, here is rge’s post (mabuhay si bill gates for the cut and paste technology!)
I just spent some time with the head of the fact-finding committee. He has submitted all pertinent facts to the board and leaves it to them to make the necessary decision based on all the facts. I will outline the facts to you as it was outlined to me. Rest assured that the facts were obtained from all parties involved and all witnesses at each incident site. The statements were obtained both by the valley fact-finding group and by the NBI as well. Testimonies were recorded, verified, and re-verified. Fortunately for the parties involved, there were always witnesses to give supporting statements on the events as they occurred.
I will compose the outline shortly as it will be lengthy but just to whet your appetite or get you thinking, you will be quite surprised with the findings. Let’s put it this way, the people we thought of as villains weren’t quite what they were depicted to be. and the supposed protagonists may have yet been quite as factual in their testimony as it turns out to be. Even our 14-year old isn’t as innocent and “prayerful” when all the details come out. just give me a few minutes….
In the interest of making sure that no facts might be left undisclosed, I will take it upon myself to start from the very beginning. Firstly let us start by saying that on or at about 12:40 p.m., the party of the Pangandaman’s registered at the starter’s area. They registered for 2 flights comprised of 4 individuals per flight. Unfortunately, they still had 2 members of their group that had not yet arrived, so they initially tee’d off as 2 successive threesomes. The starter and marshall were informed that the 2 individuals that had not yet arrived would just catch up with them in the fairway. On or at about 1:05 p.m. the Dela Paz group registered initially as a twosome but since this isn’t normally allowed, they registered as a 3-some even if the elder Mr. Dela Paz was not really going to play.
When the Dela Paz 3-some was playing on hole number 3, they were passed by 2 golf carts containing Mayor Pangandaman and his companion (in one cart) and the caddies being brought by one of the starter personnell. The Pangandaman’s did not ask permission to drive through because they did not want to disturb the Dela Paz’s who were in the middle of the fairway. Upon reaching the green of the 3rd hole, Mr. Dela Paz asked the caddie why the people in the cart just went through. Mayor Pangandaman who was already positioned at the 4th hole, personally informed Mr. Dela Paz that they were part of 2 foursomes. At this point, Mr. Dela Paz said “ah okay, courtesy lang naman”. This was verified by the caddies. Mr. Pangandaman said that he did not disturb them anymore because the player was about to hit. At this point, Mayor Pangandaman thought everything was okay so he proceeded to the 4th hole (Par 3) where his other flightmates were. In the records it says that Mr. Pangandaman was not yet even done pitching into the green when a ball landed near his 8-year old child so they immediately made sure the child was secured in the cart. ( For those unaware of the common practice at Valley Golf, on every par 3, the group behind you is signaled to hit into the green once everyone from your group is already on the green) Until you have been cleared to hit by the group ahead, you should not hit into the green. It is common sense and basic precautionary procedure.
In this particular case, we have no corroborative testimony. One set of caddies say they were given clearance, while the other say that no clearance was given as of yet when the ball/s had landed.
The Pangandaman’s claim that the same situation happened in the 5th hole (Par5). Even the caddied confirmed this. At this time, Bambee Dela Paz had called the Marshall to tell him that the flight behind them was complaining about why their pace was slow and that the cause of the delay was the 5-some in front of them. Shortly thereafter, a marshall on his motorcycle appeared and approached the Pangandaman’s and asked if they were playing as a fivesome to which the Mayor said no. “We are 2 foursomes”. Nonetheless, the Pangandaman’s had already agreed among themselves that they would rather the Dela Paz’s play through. The Mayor was even quoted saying to his Father. ” magagaling yung mga bata at malakas pumalo, baka mabagalan sa atin” They informed the marshall that they would just let the Dela Paz group play through and the marshall informed the Mr. Dela Paz of this. ( Just as an aside, the investigative group actually asked the group behind Dela paz if indeed they had complained about the slow down and the group said that the y said no such thing to the Dela paz flight. They were not even in contact at anytime before they arrived at the tee house to see the fight and eventually help stop it) When the Delapaz group reached the green of hole 5, the caddies of the 2 kids gave them their drivers so that they would waste no time playing through. The Mayor, who at that time was sitting along with their companions, stood up to personally tell Mr. Dela Paz to play through. Caddies, and the tee house server claim that the Mayor told Dela Paz na “Mauna na ho kayo” and walked to approach Dela Paz, The response of Dela Paz was “Huwag mo akong pagtaasan ng boses” Dela Paz began to question the Mayor why they were playing as a fivesome. The Mayor said that this was not the case but Dela Paz was insisting and even said (again corroborated by the caddies) “Linoloko mo ba ako?” “Member ka ba dito, Kilala mo ba ako?” (as you can see, this question did not come from Pangandaman. In fact, in the recorded testimony, this is exactly what Pangandaman claimed delapaz had said to him and yet in Delapaz’ recorded statement, he never said that the mayor asked him ” kilala mo ba ako” Completely different from when the media was already involved.
When Delapaz was posing the above question, the mayor was heard to say. “Sandali lang, hindi naman tayo nagaaway dito. Akala ko ba naayos na natin yung issue kanina sa hole 3? At about this point Delapaz closed his umbrella and then poked the mayor on his stomach using the pointed end ( some caddies say Dela Paz swung the umbrella and some say that he poked the Mayor) The investigative board asked Dela Paz what he did, he said that he poked the Mayor in self defense. When asked who was attacking him, Dela Paz said that he was being surrounded by 4 men. The caddies and other witnesses on hand said that when the umbrella incident happened, it was only Dela Paz and the mayor that were talking. The other parties were in the tee house about 15-20 yards away. The Mayor says he was poked and so he backed off and just as he was about to be poked again, his brother, Hussein ran and attacked Delapaz and hit Delapaz knocking him to the ground.( At this point the commotion took place. One of the things observed is 14-year old Bino hit the Mayor with his driver. Apparently, the mayor parried with his forearm and hand so this is where he sustaned the injury. In the process also, Hussein was being pulled off the older dela paz by his 2 children but again Bino was seen to hit Hussein in the face and head while Bambee had scratched the other side of Husseins face. At this time also, witnesses say, that 3 or 4 other members of the flight excluding the Secretary, the 8-year old boy, and the girlfriend of Hussein were involved in attacking or subduing the older dela paz but this lasted very shortly and when the combatants had been separated the existing people in the tee house as well as the new flight that was playing behind the dela paz’s.
At this point the Secretary told the delapaz group to leave so as to avoid any more trouble. As the elder delapaz was leaving he was heard calling someone on his cellphone saying ” may away kami, pumunta kayo dito”
No one knew who delapaz was speaking to as he walked away towards the main clubhouse. A few minutes later, the secretary and his group decided to end the day instead of continuing to play. When they got to the clubhouse, Hussein wanted to wash up because he was bleeding in the neck area. As he got near the reception area, he saw delapaz and was heard to have said “O, nandito pa pala kayo” to which Dela Paz said “Hindi pa tapos ito gaganti pa kami”. At this point, Bino got in between his Dad and Hussein while saying ” Tatandaan ka namin” (None of the witnesses in the clubhouse, and there were many, ever saw Bino kneel and say that he was only 14 years old at maawa na sila) On the contrary, Bino was acting like anything but a helpless child. He sounded tough, angry, and antagonistic enough that the fight broke out again. At this point, the bodyguards of the Mayor ran into the clubhouse via the poolside entrance. When questioned about this, the mayor said that one was his driver and the other was his “Yayo”. As far as the board was concerned, the “Yayo” was also a bodyguard. Said Yayo came into the clubhouse with a clutchbag containing a gun and brought out the gun without pointing it at anyone. The Mayor immediately instructed him that there was no need for guns and the gun was put back. During the investigation, the Mayor said that the handgun was his and that his “yayo” was likely going to give it to him but he declined. Upon instructing his “yayo”, the man just stayed in one corner. At this time the wife of Dela Paz and his other son arrived. The son was wielding a baseball bat and the wife had a knife which she pulled out of a scabbard. These two were subdued by security but they were verbally threatening the Pangandaman’s during this time. There was also a reported incident where the driver of the mayor ran out and came back with a suitcase containing a supposed armalite as claimed by valley security. The driver never pulled it out or pointed it at anyone but it was readily accesible
and here is what the site admin of pinoy golfer.com says about the post of rge:
“Great account of the incident, Ray. My compliments. I heard the same details third-hand from my sources. I agree with the others; Mr. de la Paz was foolish to pick a fight with his children present.”
aray, aray, aray!!!
may isang linya pa pala ang site admin ng pinoy golfer.com:
The revelation of these facts cast a severe shadow on the Bambee’s blog, don’t they?
aray uli!
hahaha, natahimik yata bigla ang mga apologists ni de la paz? parang wala na yatang dumedepensa at nagsasabing tama si santa bambee, santo bino, at senor de la paz!
When the rule of law is broken, there is no possibility to implement human rights standards.
When the word of the king alone ( hindi niyo ako kilala) is law there is also no possibility of protecting human rights.
To implement the rule of law, education for the people to voice out their frustration is crucial for democracy. It is also appropriate for the pangandamans to sacrifice for their country and resign from their own cruelty as requested by many.
When rule of law is abused by our own representatives, our country will not produce the desired results for economic growth.
LEGAL BEDROCK
THE RULE of law can be defined as a system in which the laws are public knowledge, are clear in meaning, and apply equally to everyone. They enshrine and uphold the political and civil liberties that have gained status as universal human rights over the last half-century. . . . Perhaps most important, the government is embedded in a comprehensive legal framework, its officials accept that the law will be applied to their own conduct, and the government seeks to be law-abiding.
Facts: In the Philippines, what’s happening is exactly the opposite. Politicians own and rule the law
Do not believe sa pulis na pogi. His side of story is a MYTH and it does not support the facts.
The Pangandamans cannot serve right for this country. they can only serve terror and intimidation for the people.
hahaha, some people just cannot accept that fact na nadenggoy sila ni bambi.
facts legal bedrock, yan lang ba ang alam mo? oxymoron yata pangalan mo? have you forgotten that a simple denial has almost no weight as evidence?
whatever is that you are smoking right now, throw it away! call the (+632) 531-9001 immediately! hahaha
As a lawyer, i always distrust “personal” accounts. Specially since these accounts vary due to perspective and interest. Moreso, I doubt what my client says until i see evidence and/or if its personal account vs. personal account, on who is more believable. But ofcourse, i fight for my client’s right to best of my abilities and to the full extent of what the law allows me to.
Since I wasnt there I can only go with instinct and that is, the truth is almost always, somewhere in the middle.
But this doesn’t mean that no criminal, civil or administrative liabilities exist. Specially with public servants (i actually dislike using this title) since they are supposedly held to a higher degree of responsibility.
If we take the account of the Mayor’s camp as true, he did not act in the manner that he’s supposed to. If he felt aggrieved, he should’ve had the man arrested or he could’ve effected a citizen’s arrest as provided in the Rules of Court. Well, i dont think he would’ve since it was his companion that threw the first punch after the umbrella poking incident.
On an aside, i find it amusing when i hear/read how rich people fight. Meron pang pasundot-sundot ng payong. Ano yun? And the thought of my Mom wielding a knife to offer me “resbak” is totally unimaginable. All this with her broken family and daughter of a fishvendor in the morning and fruitvendor in the afternoon upbringing.
While I come from the lower middle class due to my father’s profession (he’s a lawyer too), we grew up almost poor. We lived beside the largest squatter’s colony in Metro Manila, Welfareville. And because i spent most of my waking time in the squatter’s colony, I witnessed some really great fights. One group from one “looban” (iskinita) would have a “rumble” with another group from another “looban”.
These people would bring out bolo’s, fan knives and “pana’s” (this is constructed more like a “tirador”/slingshot with a sharpened nail as a projectile). But after the initial hits (which are mostly misses actually), it would cresendo into a volley of rocks being hurled and which would subside to an invective shouting and threat making match.
But not all fights were fought this way. There would be times where to settle things, fisticuffs or “square lang” would be resorted to. I can vividly remember the father of my squatter kababata. He was a brawler that duked it out with a “karatista”.
The karatista was leading until the brawler, while getting hit, was able to close the gap and grapple him down on the pavement. Just like your olden striker-vs-grappler matches in the UFC albeit more crude and the protagonists, ugly and more than usual, drunk. Mind you, this was fought along the busy two-way street of Nueve de Febrero in Mandaluyong when it still shared an intersection with Shaw Blvd so this fight literally was a roadshow with stopped traffic and pedestrians and commuters watching and cheering.
Baseball bat and a knife? Have any of you tried to swing a baseball bat in a fight? Baseball bats are only good for smashing cars and hitting unknowing targets. Give me a foot long lead pipe and I’ll fight a guy weilding a full bat anytime.
Damn, my “squatter” or in them golfer’s terms, “skwating” or “skwaking” upbringing is getting the better of me.
I thought the intended suit between members of Manila Polo Club because of badminton courts was stupid… Here comes one for the books.
Lessons learned for me: Dont play golf. Never poke someone with an umbrella. AND, never sound off on an alleged injustice until i hear both sides of the story.
Ang talagang pinagmulan ng gulo ay ang marshal na escort ng mayor. Kung sana naghintay makapalo sina dela Paz at sinabi sa kanila ng marshal na hahabol lang sina mayor at mauuna sa kanila, hindi sana nagkagulo. Sa tingin ko, nainis si old man dela Paz na parang binastos sila at lalo sigurong naginit nang nalaman niya mula sa mga caddy na flight ni Sec Pangandaman ang nauuna. Kaya nga nabanggit ni old man dela Paz na “kortesiya lang naman.”
Clash of ego ang nangyari.. isang mayaman at isang politico…. pang maykaya lang ang golf e… status symbol…. pati anak ni dela paz e naglalaro… gentleman’s game daw ang golf…PWE! ang asal ng mga yan e hoodlum…
yang mga pulitikong mga yan, ang yayabang pati mga bodyguards… e sineswelduhan lang naman ng taumbayan…akala mo na kung sino.. idamay niyo pa yang mga pulis, militar, konsehal at pati hamak na barangay tanod…
Kaya lang kung iisipin, yang mga dela Paz e mayaman din kasi(kaya afford maggolf)…tinamaan ang mga ego sa paglalaro ng golf…away ng mga mayayabang…
gaya sa badminton sa corporate, daming mayabang(gaya ng duktor na ulol na naglalaro sa centro-inihian ko sasakyan mo gago!) at ngayon lang yata nakapaglaro ng competitive game… hindi nakakaitindi ng pagkatalo or sportsmanship…mga PWE!!!
i wonder what is the next thing that the de la paz apologists will say, now that valley golf expells Dela Paz and only suspends for two years the dar chief.
valley golf concluded that de la paz instigated the fight!
http://ph.news.yahoo.com/star/20090111/tph-valley-golf-club-kicks-out-brawlers-541dfb4.html
pulis,
While de la paz instigated the fight, he was still mauled. And as our law would have it, the method of “self-defense” must be commensurate to repelling the attack.
If de la paz was already down on the ground, the unlawful aggression had already ceased and thus, any more “defending” is no longer covered by self-defense.
So what can (should) we learn from all of these? Better to get all sides of the controversy before we shout our lungs (cyber lungs though) out.
I give those that shouted injustice some benefit of the doubt. Nadala lang sila ng emotions and were motivated by good intentions.
Although, the road to hell is strewn with good intentions.
atty,
kindly read between the lines. what is the final case against the pangandamans? SLIGHT PHYSICAL INJURIES! he was mauled. that is webster’s word. sa libro ni luis reyes, sa annotations lang yan, wala sa code.
if the force used by the pangandaman to repel the attack of the de la pazes was excessive, e di sana, hindi SPI ang kaso. si fortun pa, di makakita ng paraan?
kung tingnan ang injuries ng mayor, mas malala pa kaysa kay bino kc may fracture sya e.
eto arguments ko about sa “kid”:
http://pulisnapogi.blogspot.com/2009/01/14-year-old-kid.html
Pulis,
PWE!!!!
Just common sense… If you are in the stupid mayor or their dimwits bodyguards position, are you going to hit a 14 yr old boy?
This is just a clash of 2 boastful families.
And still, that is not an attitude of a government official saying “KILALA MO BA KUNG SINO AKO” and hurting a kid.
PWE to those BOASTFUL FAMILIES
HAAAKKK PWEEE!!!!!
Allan
UK & Dubai
nabasa mo ba arguments ko?
boastful? as if ung pirma mo hindi nu? who cares where you are?
pwe…
at allan, hindi mo pa rin ba alam kung sino talaga ang nagsabi ng “kilala mo ba ako?” ang bobo mo naman.
clue #1: hindi ang mayor o sinuman sa mga pangandaman! si bambee lang nagsabi nun but witnesses said otherwise.
clue #2: may kasunod pa ang “hindi mo ba ako kilala?” ang dugtong nun: “Member ka rin ba dito?”
siguro naman kahit bobo ka, makapag isip isip ka na na magbasa muna para malaman mo kung ano na ang mga katotohanang lumabas at naging basehan ng desisyon ng valley golf!