I saw that, honest.

You think? Sure, for now the scripture is popular – and that is the whole point.

Popularity does not necessarily equate to “it has more truth in it”.

If tomorrow and God forbids, Islam is the most dominant and popular religion, you would clearly see what I am saying.

you have missed this: “To some extent the validity of traditionally held views or ethos lend validity to their uprightness/correctness because they have been purged of their unacceptable and erroneous dogma by sheer passage of time”.

logenvity and popularity of one’s belief has something to do with its correctness because by sheer passage of time, that belief is purged from its untruths. i think the scripture is still popular today than benign0′s blog because it has more truth in it.

Your claim that the work of the apostles is far grander and eloquent because it is read by millions of believer and non-believer alike stand on a shaky ground.

Argument by popularity (majority) is not always valid argument. There was a time when it was thought that the earth is flat and was the center of the universe. That belief is now a bs.

Popular belief is not necessarily true. Things stand on their own merit and not as decreed.

if you read benign0′s anti-church, anti-cbcp tirade, its full of singular claim to wisdom and erudition and those that are pro-church and pro-cbcp are “ignramuses” that had been brainwashed by the church….

benign0′s anti-church and anti-cbcp blabber is incomprable with the scientific works of Galileo and Galileo’s works cannot be considered a blabber, in fact, he was asked by Fr. Belarmine to prove his theory and if he cannot prove it to keep quite about it. To say that “heliocentric” theory is comparable to benign0′s tirade against CBCP and the faithful is to demean Galileo.

in the same way that the ateneo’s professors disagreemnt with CBCP’s position on reproductive health bill does not merit their assignation as “Galileo’s 14/69. The professors’ disagreement is centered on the morality of abortion or contraception as a measure to address overpopulation and poverty. galileo’s work is far more intense and involved than the debates on the reproductive health bill.

anyway if you consider the treatment of Galileo by the church during his time similar to the treatment of benign0 in this blog, all i can say, is ride on baby. :)

The fact that the works by the apostles is read by majority does not imply that it is far more eloquent and grander that some of the small voices such as benign0′s.

In the same manner, Galileo’s Helio Theory will seen as a blabber if we are living at that time.

In short, argument by popularity is not very conclusive.

Or there is no Porn Celebration in RP that approximates the jubilee of Christmas Celebration.

To some extent the validity of traditionally held views or ethos lend validity to their uprightness/correctness because they have been purged of their unacceptable and erroneous dogma by sheer passage of time.

The Pope’s apology for the Church stand on Galileo “heliocentric” theory is one example that as time goes by, the Church purges itself of belief that do not support reason and morality. Galileo’s work was passed upon by the Church at a time that the Church has no scientific tools to prove Galileo’s contention was correct and neither the later has the tools to prove his study beyond doubt.

If Galileo could have proven without question his theory of “heliocentricity” during that period, the Church could have adopted its position even if its contrary to the scriptural teachings of the Church. As you can clearly see, the Church is not closed minded.

My point in this thread is that the non-believers look at people whose faith are intact as the “unwashed and the “uneducated” that they can be brainwashed and “conditioned” by christian thinking through systematic marketing by the church.

i simply say that wisdom and erudition is not the monopoly of the anti-church or anti-CBCP.

What I cite is your using popularity as a measure of validity.

The funny thing is on top of that you add the longevity of the belief system as well to your measures of validity.

Consider that some of the findings about the true nature of things (e.g. the roundness of the earth, our place in the universe, what matter is really made of, what causes disease, etc.) were discovered and worked out only in the last 200 years of human civilisation.

The handful of examples I cited debunked an immense body of what was considered to be “true” or considered to be unknown for the better part of the previous 10,000 years.

So I’d be cautious about taking the position akin to what you say here:

and by the way, wowwowe and these various porn sites came only during this century while christianity dates back to some 2000 years and continue to count for followings

And, yes, porn sites as you said “came only during this century”. But the concept of porn itself is probably older than Chrstianity.

It’s simple, really™

(Specially when one goes for the simpler principle) :D

the scripture are read by billions of believers, and even non-believers who would find flaws in the bible and would passionately argue about its being written at all.

i am comparing your blog to the followers of Catholicism/Christianity and not wowwowe or porn sites of which you would have no data whatsoever if they surpass the readers of the scriptures.

and by the way, wowwowe and these various porn sites came only during this century while christianity dates back to some 2000 years and continue to count for followings. in another decade or two, our generations may not remember wowwowwe or your favorite ponrn sites anymore but christiany and its leading best seller, the bible would still be read by many people, and you can bet on that. :)