Comments on: Mar Roxas, The 2010 Elections, and The Internet http://filipinovoices.com/mar-roxas-the-2010-elections-and-the-internet Powered By A Collective Voice Tue, 07 Feb 2012 20:47:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.3 By: Bencard http://filipinovoices.com/mar-roxas-the-2010-elections-and-the-internet/comment-page-1#comment-4914 Bencard Sun, 03 Aug 2008 18:49:33 +0000 http://www.filipinovoices.com/?p=460#comment-4914 ding, i just can't figure out why you think bayani fernando is presumptuous and arrogant. is it because he displays an uncompromising stance in doing what he is supposed to do? i think we had enough of populist leaders who will not do anything unless he is certain he can defend it "in plaza miranda", regardless of the urgency and need for a decisive action. i don't mean to blow the trumpet for the man this early but i, for one, believes that fernando would make an effective, but not too popular) president. we always say that our leaders must have "political will" - a kind of courage or "audacity" to do the right thing no matter the adverse political consequence that it may bring to the leader. unless we conquer our age-old habit of voting for "mabait", "maawain", "matulungin", "mapagbigay", "madaling kausapin", "maka-mahirap", "mapakumbaba", "reliyoso", etc., etc., we will never find the true leader we need to solve our country's problems. ding, i just can’t figure out why you think bayani fernando is presumptuous and arrogant. is it because he displays an uncompromising stance in doing what he is supposed to do? i think we had enough of populist leaders who will not do anything unless he is certain he can defend it “in plaza miranda”, regardless of the urgency and need for a decisive action. i don’t mean to blow the trumpet for the man this early but i, for one, believes that fernando would make an effective, but not too popular) president. we always say that our leaders must have “political will” – a kind of courage or “audacity” to do the right thing no matter the adverse political consequence that it may bring to the leader.

unless we conquer our age-old habit of voting for “mabait”, “maawain”, “matulungin”, “mapagbigay”, “madaling kausapin”, “maka-mahirap”, “mapakumbaba”, “reliyoso”, etc., etc., we will never find the true leader we need to solve our country’s problems.

]]> By: cocoy http://filipinovoices.com/mar-roxas-the-2010-elections-and-the-internet/comment-page-1#comment-4886 cocoy Sun, 03 Aug 2008 09:59:03 +0000 http://www.filipinovoices.com/?p=460#comment-4886 i do not know what else to add to what you've said cvj, nick, ding. this surely is a very interesting time we live in. i do not know what else to add to what you’ve said cvj, nick, ding. this surely is a very interesting time we live in.

]]> By: Ding G. Gagelonia http://filipinovoices.com/mar-roxas-the-2010-elections-and-the-internet/comment-page-1#comment-4885 Ding G. Gagelonia Sun, 03 Aug 2008 09:52:24 +0000 http://www.filipinovoices.com/?p=460#comment-4885 Nick, Am with you on this and adding to my skepticism about our politicians is my concern over the heavily eroded integrity of our very electoral process. 2004 saw massive cheating at work more palpably in the Philippines. The massive scale of the fraud that took place is only now being confirmed in the exposes just last week in Ellen Tordesillas' two-part report in the Vera Files. The coming ARMM polls, assuming they will push through, may not even be enough of a litmus test to reassure us about the COMELEC rebuilding its badly tattered image. Nick,

Am with you on this and adding to my skepticism about our politicians is my concern over the heavily eroded integrity of our very electoral process.

2004 saw massive cheating at work more palpably in the Philippines. The massive scale of the fraud that took place is only now being confirmed in the exposes just last week in Ellen Tordesillas’ two-part report in the Vera Files.

The coming ARMM polls, assuming they will push through, may not even be enough of a litmus test to reassure us about the COMELEC rebuilding its badly tattered image.

]]> By: Nick http://filipinovoices.com/mar-roxas-the-2010-elections-and-the-internet/comment-page-1#comment-4877 Nick Sun, 03 Aug 2008 07:44:04 +0000 http://www.filipinovoices.com/?p=460#comment-4877 Ding, as a faithful skeptic, I am very cautious in endorsing anyone to lead our nation. I am hopeful, however, that Mar has given us all a chance be at the table and participate in the discussion that I am hopeful he will also give to those who don't have the capacity to avail of the time to scrutinize candidates and public officials. "The Masa" of course will have to take the time, but knowing that a third of the population is in poverty, most Filipinos just don't have the time to properly scrutinize each and every candidate, this is where we can help in bringing to light these discussions, not only online, but hopefully to our respective inner circles and communities. I'm thankful for his invitations, but I also yearn for more. And in the future, I hope town hall meetings will be a normal aspect of our democracy and geared towards informing the citizenry. As Bencard has noted, and I repeat here, we have yet to reach the tip of what an informed citizenry should be. We can help, through such initiatives, as FV, in helping create such a citizenry. Will he be the man that can lead and inspire our nation, something that is obviously lacking in this administration? We cannot make that assertion as of yet. It's a good start though. Ding, as a faithful skeptic, I am very cautious in endorsing anyone to lead our nation. I am hopeful, however, that Mar has given us all a chance be at the table and participate in the discussion that I am hopeful he will also give to those who don’t have the capacity to avail of the time to scrutinize candidates and public officials. “The Masa” of course will have to take the time, but knowing that a third of the population is in poverty, most Filipinos just don’t have the time to properly scrutinize each and every candidate, this is where we can help in bringing to light these discussions, not only online, but hopefully to our respective inner circles and communities.

I’m thankful for his invitations, but I also yearn for more. And in the future, I hope town hall meetings will be a normal aspect of our democracy and geared towards informing the citizenry. As Bencard has noted, and I repeat here, we have yet to reach the tip of what an informed citizenry should be. We can help, through such initiatives, as FV, in helping create such a citizenry.

Will he be the man that can lead and inspire our nation, something that is obviously lacking in this administration? We cannot make that assertion as of yet. It’s a good start though.

]]> By: cvj http://filipinovoices.com/mar-roxas-the-2010-elections-and-the-internet/comment-page-1#comment-4875 cvj Sun, 03 Aug 2008 07:39:44 +0000 http://www.filipinovoices.com/?p=460#comment-4875 I think Roxas chances of winning will depend on how the Liberal Party is able to (re-)define itself. It cannot pretend to be <i>maka-Masa</i> a-la Erap or FPJ(imho that 'Mr. Palengke' comes off as fake) in that the party itself has a Patrician soul. What the LP needs to decide within itself is whether it will pay lip-service to the masses while trying to hide its elitist core, or will it be a genuine agent of change in its leading the Oligarchs (and the Middle Class) to finally emancipate the masses. My guess is that if the masses sense the latter, then this will be seen as a sign of sincerity and his party will have a fighting chance. I think Roxas chances of winning will depend on how the Liberal Party is able to (re-)define itself. It cannot pretend to be maka-Masa a-la Erap or FPJ(imho that ‘Mr. Palengke’ comes off as fake) in that the party itself has a Patrician soul. What the LP needs to decide within itself is whether it will pay lip-service to the masses while trying to hide its elitist core, or will it be a genuine agent of change in its leading the Oligarchs (and the Middle Class) to finally emancipate the masses. My guess is that if the masses sense the latter, then this will be seen as a sign of sincerity and his party will have a fighting chance.

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