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		<title>By: Blackshama</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/observations-on-filam-of-filpil-discourse-in-the-internet/comment-page-1#comment-20201</link>
		<dc:creator>Blackshama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 08:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amadeo

That&#039;s what the academic studies seem to indicate. Although we can&#039;t pigeonhole FilAms, the result of the studies parallel earlier studies done on FilAms where &quot;mainstream America&quot; was &quot;White America&quot;. Now with Obama as President,this construct will change. 

As for consevative blogs, Pinoys rarely get to read them since for many, conservative blogs parrot &quot;imperialist&quot; lines. You have to realize that Filipinos still have a lingering colonial angst about this.

As for FOX news, I used to tune it to that in LA but when I heard about their journalistic standards ....... Besides its owned by Rupert Murdoch and having lived in Oz, I really know what Aussies think of Murdoch!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amadeo</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what the academic studies seem to indicate. Although we can&#8217;t pigeonhole FilAms, the result of the studies parallel earlier studies done on FilAms where &#8220;mainstream America&#8221; was &#8220;White America&#8221;. Now with Obama as President,this construct will change. </p>
<p>As for consevative blogs, Pinoys rarely get to read them since for many, conservative blogs parrot &#8220;imperialist&#8221; lines. You have to realize that Filipinos still have a lingering colonial angst about this.</p>
<p>As for FOX news, I used to tune it to that in LA but when I heard about their journalistic standards &#8230;&#8230;. Besides its owned by Rupert Murdoch and having lived in Oz, I really know what Aussies think of Murdoch!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeg</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/observations-on-filam-of-filpil-discourse-in-the-internet/comment-page-1#comment-20200</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 08:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IIRC, DJB once mentioned that Pinoy &#039;liberalism&#039; is mainly colonial mentality, that is, we get it from Hollywood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IIRC, DJB once mentioned that Pinoy &#8216;liberalism&#8217; is mainly colonial mentality, that is, we get it from Hollywood.</p>
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		<title>By: Amadeo</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/observations-on-filam-of-filpil-discourse-in-the-internet/comment-page-1#comment-20192</link>
		<dc:creator>Amadeo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 07:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;that FilAms don’t really get the reality sa Pilipinas since they get their constructs from that of the Inquirer and ANC! In contrast FilPils get a better idea of what is it to be in the USA from a wider variety of sources&lt;/i&gt;

Trying to gather together the collective FilAm experience in one box can be a slippery and daunting task because it could be very varied and different depending on where the FilAms can be found and how seriously FilAms try to integrate and/or assimilate in the US mainstream.  And US mainstream is not just comprised of white America, but necessarily with the coterie of many races mixed together.

In the same vein I cannot accept the above-quoted assumption that typically FilAms inform their beliefs about the old homeland based on those named sources.  Again, because they do so from a variety of sources – from regular trips to the old homeland, from continuing interaction and feedback within the closely-knit FilAm communities quite pervasive in populous states like California, New York, and New Jersey, and reading from their local on-line sources in the old homeland.  But not discounting the fact that there may be a number of FilAms whose interests with the old homeland may have become quite cursory and thus, they may derive some information from those named sources and nothing much else.

On the reverse side of the coin, and most especially in the on-line forums and blogs maintained by compatriots in the old homeland, one gets a definite sense that many of them form their own notions and beliefs about things US including but not limited to FilAms, mostly from sources, whether local or foreign, which clearly share their own ideological and political bent.  BBC and CNN, and lately MSNBC, are most often mentioned.  And add there, the decidedly biased (and admitted and proved so) media sources like the New York Times and Washington Post. But ask how many listen regularly to Fox News or seriously and regularly read popular conservative sources and blogs, which are noted for their fervent and passionate defense of America and things American and most cannot answer in the affirmative.  If conservative but fellow ethnic Filipino, Michelle Malkin, is ever mentioned, it typically is in a derisive and often times, insulting, manner, though many may not even be reading her on a regular basis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>that FilAms don’t really get the reality sa Pilipinas since they get their constructs from that of the Inquirer and ANC! In contrast FilPils get a better idea of what is it to be in the USA from a wider variety of sources</i></p>
<p>Trying to gather together the collective FilAm experience in one box can be a slippery and daunting task because it could be very varied and different depending on where the FilAms can be found and how seriously FilAms try to integrate and/or assimilate in the US mainstream.  And US mainstream is not just comprised of white America, but necessarily with the coterie of many races mixed together.</p>
<p>In the same vein I cannot accept the above-quoted assumption that typically FilAms inform their beliefs about the old homeland based on those named sources.  Again, because they do so from a variety of sources – from regular trips to the old homeland, from continuing interaction and feedback within the closely-knit FilAm communities quite pervasive in populous states like California, New York, and New Jersey, and reading from their local on-line sources in the old homeland.  But not discounting the fact that there may be a number of FilAms whose interests with the old homeland may have become quite cursory and thus, they may derive some information from those named sources and nothing much else.</p>
<p>On the reverse side of the coin, and most especially in the on-line forums and blogs maintained by compatriots in the old homeland, one gets a definite sense that many of them form their own notions and beliefs about things US including but not limited to FilAms, mostly from sources, whether local or foreign, which clearly share their own ideological and political bent.  BBC and CNN, and lately MSNBC, are most often mentioned.  And add there, the decidedly biased (and admitted and proved so) media sources like the New York Times and Washington Post. But ask how many listen regularly to Fox News or seriously and regularly read popular conservative sources and blogs, which are noted for their fervent and passionate defense of America and things American and most cannot answer in the affirmative.  If conservative but fellow ethnic Filipino, Michelle Malkin, is ever mentioned, it typically is in a derisive and often times, insulting, manner, though many may not even be reading her on a regular basis.</p>
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		<title>By: Blackshama</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/observations-on-filam-of-filpil-discourse-in-the-internet/comment-page-1#comment-20183</link>
		<dc:creator>Blackshama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 05:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeg

They do have a college course built upon that. I think many US state Us have something along that line.

With the Obamamessiah&#039;s coming expect more Black transnational identity courses to spring up. Barack is an unusual African American,hardly representative at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeg</p>
<p>They do have a college course built upon that. I think many US state Us have something along that line.</p>
<p>With the Obamamessiah&#8217;s coming expect more Black transnational identity courses to spring up. Barack is an unusual African American,hardly representative at all.</p>
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		<title>By: benign0</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/observations-on-filam-of-filpil-discourse-in-the-internet/comment-page-1#comment-20177</link>
		<dc:creator>benign0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 04:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a bit skeptical because mlq3 was involved as well in this whole noise created around this so-called &quot;Interfaith Rally&quot; which it seems was intended to (or people hoped it would) morph into a big mass action or a series of mass actions that will eventually lead up to a removal of Arroyo from office.

Of course we can now see in retrospect what a non-event all that turned out to be. 

In the end, it was just one new item I add to my &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.getrealphilippines.com/agr-disagr/edsa_collection.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;hall-of-shame collection of Pinoy street &quot;revolutions&quot;&lt;/a&gt;
:D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a bit skeptical because mlq3 was involved as well in this whole noise created around this so-called &#8220;Interfaith Rally&#8221; which it seems was intended to (or people hoped it would) morph into a big mass action or a series of mass actions that will eventually lead up to a removal of Arroyo from office.</p>
<p>Of course we can now see in retrospect what a non-event all that turned out to be. </p>
<p>In the end, it was just one new item I add to my <a href="http://www.getrealphilippines.com/agr-disagr/edsa_collection.html" rel="nofollow">hall-of-shame collection of Pinoy street &#8220;revolutions&#8221;</a><br />
:D</p>
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		<title>By: Blackshama</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/observations-on-filam-of-filpil-discourse-in-the-internet/comment-page-1#comment-20174</link>
		<dc:creator>Blackshama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 04:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a bit off track to compare Manolo with Trillanes et al. After all Manolo as far as I know doesn&#039;t have messianic tendencies! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a bit off track to compare Manolo with Trillanes et al. After all Manolo as far as I know doesn&#8217;t have messianic tendencies! :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Jeg</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/observations-on-filam-of-filpil-discourse-in-the-internet/comment-page-1#comment-20152</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 02:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Defining Pinoy identity is always a good subject for acedemia for the simple reason that there isnt any definition. In fact an entire college course could be build around it. It&#039;s like Philosophy of Science. You could get a PhD in it because professor-types are still arguing what science is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Defining Pinoy identity is always a good subject for acedemia for the simple reason that there isnt any definition. In fact an entire college course could be build around it. It&#8217;s like Philosophy of Science. You could get a PhD in it because professor-types are still arguing what science is.</p>
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		<title>By: jcc</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/observations-on-filam-of-filpil-discourse-in-the-internet/comment-page-1#comment-20081</link>
		<dc:creator>jcc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 13:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>manolo&#039;s effort seem to be well-intentioned from my standpoint and i credit him for that. otherwise he would just be duplicating the Honasan, Trillanes, De Leon capers who would like to be in the center of the drama so they can run for public office.

manolo is not a politician i supposed, so i give him the benefit of the doubt.

keep the fire burning manolo! ! !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>manolo&#8217;s effort seem to be well-intentioned from my standpoint and i credit him for that. otherwise he would just be duplicating the Honasan, Trillanes, De Leon capers who would like to be in the center of the drama so they can run for public office.</p>
<p>manolo is not a politician i supposed, so i give him the benefit of the doubt.</p>
<p>keep the fire burning manolo! ! !</p>
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		<title>By: Bencard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bencard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 13:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re manolo&#039;s effort, i call it &quot;obsession&quot;, not unlike a fetish or an allergic reaction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re manolo&#8217;s effort, i call it &#8220;obsession&#8221;, not unlike a fetish or an allergic reaction.</p>
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