I have nothing against Pat Mangubat. He seems to be a decent guy and a patriot, but one recent post he did on his blog has him accusing unnamed bloggers of being sell outs, specifically to “corporate Public Relations practitioners (and Malacanang press operators).”
He goes on by pleading to these unnamed individuals:
YOU–YOU KNOW WHAT YOU DID–SHAME ON YOU! Shame that you sold your very soul to the highest bidder. Shame that you even sold your friends, telling politicos and marketing managers that you own them when you know in your heart that you don’t own anyone. Bloggers are not commodities. We are not for sale!
This is OK. An honest man pleading to a unnamed dishonest persons to be honest. This is fair. What I find disturbing, however, is the following paragraph.
To my fellow bloggers, hear my plea—MAKE THE PHILIPPINE BLOGOSPHERE CLEAN. DON’T ALLOW THIS HALLOWED PLACE OF FREE EXPRESSION BE CORRUPTED BY CORPORATE SPONSORSHIPS, POLITICAL OPERATORS AND WHAT HAVE YOU. WE MUST POLICE OUR RANKS. WE MUST STAY CLEAR OF PEOPLE WHO USE US JUST TO PROMOTE A DEFECTIVE PRODUCT, DEFEND A DIRTY POLITICIAN OR DESTROY REPUTATIONS.
This sentence in particular–We must police our ranks–I find presumptuous. Policing the blogosphere is PRESUMPTUOUS. The Web is a free medium and blogs being the freest of all websites. It’s easy to put up and easy to “promote” (make popular, in blogging terms). You do not have to be a programmer or a designer to own your own blog and if you wish, you can have a blog for free. You also don’t have to be anything else: not a writer, not a scientist, not a PhD, not famous. Hell, you do not even have to have a brain. Then this word RANKS. What does this mean? Are we troopers in a battle field? Are we a clan, a club, an org? And who is we?
Pat also mentioned being invited to a party of sorts attended by these so-called Most Influential Bloggers. He relishes the time he spent talking to his mentor and some famous bloggers like MLQ3 and even mentioned the elusive cutie, ROM, how lucky he was that he got to finally meet her. Great, but I get the feeling Rom is only meant to be eyeballed by the likes of Marocharim, Jester and Atheista. Yikes, no BrianB in your itinerary Rom? Oh well.
And you mentioned that “People like Butch Dado and his lovely wife Noemi, Dang, Janet, JV and all others are trying their darnest best to keep the Pinoy Blogosphere clean as a whistle but this stupid ingrate tried to spoil everything.”
Are you serious? You really think they have a say whether the pinoy blogosphere is clean or not? I don’t think so. And what makes you think they do not allow corporate influence in their own sites? Not that I know they do.
The thing is this, and this is going to hurt. I believe all this influential blogger and top blogger business have gotten into the heads of a few honest souls here in the “pinoy blogosphere.” What is the pinoy blogosphere anyway? Does this include all the 3 million blogs owned and maintained by pinoys? What does Pat mean when he says US?
Let me reveal a little something to you folks. I am a paid blogger. I have managed about a dozen sites in the past 2 years I have been working as a blogger. Many of these sites have had modest successes. Successes? Right now, I am managing three blogs full time. One of them is PMPtoday.com, which gets about 7,000 pageviews daily. We sell ad space and we also have adsense. Our biggest earner so far is an affiliate program, which I shall not name. Basically, every time a poor soul buys thru our site, we get a cut. PMPToday has been mentioned in many of the most popular sites on the Internet regularly. Meaning, we get sourced by the likes of Engadget and Gizmodo. These two sites get millions of readers every month. Every month. We were even cited on a major (I mean $100 million big ones) ad campaign by a cellphone maker. Don’t even start me talking about the two other blogs, which I won’t because I have signed a confidentiality agreement not to tell people the writer of these blogs is a Filipino.
I am telling you this for two reasons. First, I am a paid blogger. Second, I know blogging. I suppose many people here think they know blogging, but let me tell you something, the tech blogger really knows blogging. We know because among all blogs we usually get the most traffic and we know because tech blogs are the most active and, arguably, among the most influential. Political blogs are great but have you heard of a political blog who has caused a major US company to lose billions of dollars in stock value in one day? A tech blog did that. We are the ones who decide economics-wise whether banner advertising should affect the posts or not (it should not) or whether pay-per-post is viable (not in a highly trafficked sites, especially a site with a good reputation). Wait. I am telling you all these for a third reason. You need to know a little more about me because that is SUPPOSED to create trust. Well, short of meeting some of you at Starbucks one of these days, there it is.
Am I bragging? Maybe. Am I being an A-hole? Maybe. The point though is this: I don’t give a good HOT DAMN about myself as a blogger. I really don’t. It’s a livelihood, that’s it. I plan to get out of blogging altogether after a year. What would I do after? I dunno, maybe I’d go sailing. I do give a damn about ethics, even online. I also know that pinoy bloggers do not have to re-invent the wheel. I mentioned the two most popular tech blogs, now I’ll mention a very popular political blog, Huffington Post. For people who do not think Huffington Post is a blog can go to this wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_blog. It’s at the bottom, under notable blogs. Now, Huffington Post is very blog business. Yes it is about politics but it is also a BUSINESS. Most blogs are businesses. Nothing PURE about them. The only pure thing, if we are lucky, is the truth that is sometimes revealed and talked about in these blogs.
Now, let me get back to Pat’s post. I agree that a blogger who gets paid by a politician to promote said politician is a bad apple. What I don’t agree with Pat about is his belief that keeping the identity to himself is the ethical thing to do as opposed to being the unethical. He’d rather have us all guessing and accusing one another. He’d rather have the likes of me, who does not twitter or plurk, to be totally in the dark about it. A blog, I used to think, is where bad apples get outed. It’s where ordinary people get to listen to shop talk. Where known sell-outs in our newspapers, TV and radio get exposed by their own colleagues. Blind items, I believe whether online or on print, is unethical. It exists because of a loophole in our libel and slander laws, which we cannot do anything about.
Like I wrote in Rom’s comment section, these nameless accused bloggers deserve a chance to defend themselves. They really do, especially when people like your commenter Gail already think they know who this blogger or these bloggers are:
Gail(Who am I?) said…
Nice to meet you at the party, Pat! Sorry I stole Juned (and ran out of calling cards hehe), we haven’t chatted for about a month already :) Anyway, if he hasn’t sent you my email yet, you can reach me through my site.
Hmm.. I have a feeling this is the same person that made my blood pressure rise a couple of notches when I was told about it.
But, as I have said, there really are still people who WILL make the effort to keep some things “clean.” Some just have an awful moral compass, they think everyone is like them just because they’re like that. They’re deluding themselves, but the fact remains that there are still people who will try to keep things clean no matter what.
December 12, 2008 6:07 AM
So what do you say, Pat? Do we deserve to be enlightened further?
About the writer: BrianB manages several popular blogs including pmptoday.com. He also has a new personal blog–bigsmallepisodes.wordpress.com–that he updates whenever he CANNOT write.
Popularity: 2% [?]
As we say – the proof of the pudding . . .
Revealed for precisely what they are – I couldn’t have done a better job . . .
@ Taka Gubat – whoever you are, hiding in your anonymous shadows – would you like to step forward, identify yourself – and provide me with one single scrap of proof that you have the slightest idea of what you are talking about?
No – I thought as much – so much for ethics.
@ – Jepoy – watch your language.
To ellumbra,
I have read both sides of the story. I will disagree with you that this is all about trust and money. For me, it’s about responsibility that you have failed to deliver. Getting a woman pregnant and refusing to help and pay even half of the bill is a man who is cheap not worthy of marrying a another woman.
You have no right to even make it this big. You have no credibility at all since you are still married. Your are such an irresponsible man in this particular situation. I could care less about your past , whether it was in good intention or bad, the point here is , you have confirmed to the world your true color at a very late stage in life- an irresponsible man to an innocent woman. You have few more years to fix your own scar which may not heal. Mayen has all the time for a brighter future. She will move on just like all the strong women in the Philippines.
For all filipina women out there, please do not have sex before marriage unless it’s protected. This is our true foundation , a gift from our parents. Please do not go beyond the boundaries of morality especially at such a young age. This country will progress and all of you must be patient.
For tim, I will ask my priest brother and bishop uncle to pray for your soul. That’s all I can do for you. Please reassess the situation and your responsibility in that situation.
YOU ARE RUNNING AWAY FROM RESPONSIBILITY AND THE REALITY OF YOUR OWN LIFE. You are transferring it to someone who don’t deserve it.
I feel sorry for you. It’s not our problem but YOURS.
Tierra Maria is a hoax and there was no scam. Read it here: http://reynaelena.com/2008/04/23/was-there-a-scam-part-2/
The wicked motive of Ellumbra is here: http://reynaelena.com/2008/04/24/was-there-a-scam-the-motive/
This is an issue that is completely out of topic and we should not allow Ellumbra to hijack this post.
I suggest that someone block his IP and let Ellumbra post his comment in my entries and not here.
Like what Jepoy had said: LET IT BE KNOWN…. THAT YOU ARE A F*CKING RETARD Ellumbra.
this is the best place to discuss the issue of RESPONSIBILITY. Let it be. Will see what kind of brain this old man has. I am suspecting, he has an early stage of dementia. He is also suffering from a psychological symptom of DENIAL which have lead him to depression and retaliation against his very OWN self. That’s very painful and it is fully reflected in his blog.
This man needs a lot of emotional and mental help.
BrianB
Sumali ka na kasi sa pulis pangkalawakan ng “pinoy” blogosphere..alam mo namang maraming serious fifol out there..
:D
and what is this ‘pinoy’ blogosphere anyway? does it earn money at al?l as we saw from the case study of how friendster collapsed as a business, – pinoys don’t click adlinks so no matter how many digitalfilipino/yugatech hyperlink seo adsense link kita link mo ako banners one puts, it’s not going to generate income for the blogger because pinoys (me included) would rather finger something else.
and dios mio, no one is being forced to read a blog…there’s one for every persuasion.
@ Leytenian – before you write another word – show me the proof QUOTE “Getting a woman pregnant” UNQUOTE.
And identify yourself – or stand accused as an an anonyomous coward.
But that is how exactly he promotes his blog readership. He stalks bloggers. He joins comment boxes.
Different bloggers, different strategies to gain traffic.We ignored him. we did not link his websites.
IT is money-making scheme. He tried to sell the story to BBC and other publisher. No taker. He sensationalized it. No taker.
Who would believe that someone out there will con him for a measly sum of pounds. Even his cost of ticket was borrowed.
Trust. He’s a married man. He used the old excuse that he’s having a problem with his wife. The poor wife did not even know that he went to the PHilippines.
For a price of flip flop that the girl friend asked him, he already wrote that he feels like a goose that lays a golden egg. The cost of a flip flop is hardly a hundred pesos. Dang. Cheap.
@ Cat – Ha, ha, ha – you really are scraping the barrel Cathy.
Why are you lying still? QUOTE “Even his cost of ticket was borrowed.” UNQUOTE
And distorting the things I have written for your own ends – exaggeration for the sake of spin and hype – QUOTE “For a price of flip flop that the girl friend asked him, he already wrote that he feels like a goose that lays a golden egg.” UNQUOTE
Why are you so sensitive, so defensive about this whole thing – considering it has nothing to do with you, whatsoever?
And why do they all choose not to believe that I have video footage of the scar being smudged?
You see – this is the extent of the propaganda attempt – even here – with anonymous guests, posting their uninformed comments, it is not factual at all, not based on any unequivocal, tangible proof – it is at best, wishful thinking – at worst – something much more sinister. Believe me – it is big business that they are trying to defend – these people with Bishops and Priests in their families – pull the other one!
Ellumbra,
it doesn’t matter, if you get the woman pregnant or not. The point that you have submitted yourself, exerting an effort to clean your dirty balls, only has not confirmed your hate and denial but it also confirm your cowardliness to take responsibility of your action.
As I said, you are running away to neverland. Your story will only sell to cheap bloody people like you. You should try hanging yourself on top of big ben.
“And why do they all choose not to believe that I have video footage of the scar being smudged?”
It doesn’t matter if there’s scar or not. Or even if this whole story is true or not. You are one of those people who pretend to be somebody you cannot be. That’s a lot of work for an old guy like you.
The youth of this country will have all the time to reflect and make life worth living and blogging.
You don’t belong in the blogosphere and engaging yourself to nonsense and trying even harder to fit -in to a culture that you will never belong unless you will prove your worth. Have you not learned at all? You must have miss the fun side of life? I really do feel sorry for you, ellumbra , the old bloody wannabe.
This time, try hanging yourself on top of London’s eye.
Excusez-moi Ellumbra!? You’re talking about propaganda attempt to Cat? Exactly how many blogs have you opened to sell your morbidly crazy fantasies? Not one is even buying. The entry you sent me with dozens of commenters were all linked to the very blog you created? Did you procreated yourself because you could not find a Filipina anymore?
You’re one bloody fool old fart Ellumbra! You fooled a Filipina once, ain’t gonna happen again!
ellumbra,
If will expose myself to you, there’s only few options you can do, either hate me or love me. But I don’t need any of that. You can call me coward or anything negative. It’s not my battle but yours..
hahahahahahahah
@ Children, children – QUOTE “it doesn’t matter, if you get the woman pregnant or not.” UNQUOTE
QUOTE “It doesn’t matter if there’s scar or not. Or even if this whole story is true or not.” UNQUOTE
It may not matter to you (although it matters enough for you to make totally unqualified comments) – but the ethics involved here, regarding those bloggers who chose to try and cover up the truth, is now more pertinent than “just another scam story” – agreed – but you’re still trying to cover it up aren’t you – WHY?
Just as I thought – you have not an ounce of proof – it’s all wishful thinking – and a lot of hollow, meaningless propaganda.
For once and for all time – I AM NOT INTERESTED IN SELLING MY STORY – I am not interested in making a cent out of blogging either – I have a perfectly respectable profession. It is purely your myopic vision that leads you to say such things – presuming that anyone who blogs must be doing it for traffic, clicks or money. Think again.
QUOTE “You’re talking about propaganda attempt to Cat?” UNQUOTE – No, your majesty – to the whole lot of you.
The fact that you had to force the issue, inciting all your colleagues and cohorts – proves yet again, that you could not possibly let the truth speak for itself – because it’s a perfectly obvious truth.
You are the one’s in denial – and making dumb threats proves that you’ve run out of rope to hang yourselves with – the rope that I have been supplying in yards and yards and yards.
Boy – have you made good use of it?
QUOTE “The entry you sent me with dozens of commenters were all linked to the very blog you created?” UNQUOTE – what am I supposed to do – present it on someone else’s blog? Grow up Reyna Elena, for pity’s sake.
Come on then Leytenian – expose yourself – there are plenty of ways to contact me. Better Leytenian than never.
You’re not interested in selling your story but you bombarded the internet like a one scam Nigerian 419 tatood on your ass. Now, why did you hound me Ellumbra and why did you not stop following all of us? Because not one single soul in any country in the world would buy your crazy story so you came back in here to convince us?
I did a great detail point by point on your diary story. You have got nothing to even say a word on what I wrote.
Why don’t you issue a rebuttal if you have a brain at all? You know where to find them!
Tierra Maria is a hoax and there was no scam. Read it here: http://reynaelena.com/2008/04/23/was-there-a-scam-part-2/
The wicked motive of Ellumbra is here: http://reynaelena.com/2008/04/24/was-there-a-scam-the-motive/
Boy you loved this attention you demented bloody attention deficit seeking moron Ellumbra, don’t you?! Why don’t you meet me at Piccadilly Circus in January?! I’ll be in London! And yes! My friends know about you! You retard old fart! So, have you found yourself another woman fool again?
haha maka-alis na nga sa post na to na spam tuloy nang walang kwentang si Ellumbra.
this is what happens to Ellumbra whose best friend is the bloody father rapist of his daughter haha go find a new mental doctor Ellubmra ok?
@ Reyna Elena – How wrong you are – I have written a very thorough and detailed trumping of your ludicrous psycho-babble here . . . http://tierramariaestatesscam.blogspot.com/2008/06/tierra-maria-estates-hollow-propaganda.html
and it has been there for months.
As to “fooling women” – I think you are the last person to take seriously regarding that comment – you’re trying to fool everyone – including yourself.
But as your comments here have not had anything to say, without being profane and insulting – I’m sure the readers can see that for themselves.
Let me know when you’re in London.
ellumbra,
It must have been painful for you to spend money on tickets , pasalubong, time and efforts. I can understand that part but insisting and blogging about the bloody horrific event is a sign of a full blown DENIAL. Please accept it ellumbra. Shit happens , you know. You can’t live your life like that.
In fairness, I will give you the benefit of the doubt.
But, you should be sleeping by now. It’s probably 1 AM in England. Move on. Here’s a song for you
Sleeptight
Lastly,
Have you heard of the saying that “no money no honey”
it only does not apply to Philippines but even to the most progressive countries in many different ways. Some women will not verbalize it and some may but the basis of any relationship is not only money but also trust that needs to be earned by both parties.
I do agree that women in the Philippines should not promote themselves online to find their mate and ask for money. One should know better.
In your case, you are fully responsible for your own action. The best approach is to accept it.
@ Leytenian – QUOTE “In fairness, I will give you the benefit of the doubt.” UNQUOTE
This I want to hear from all the others.
QUOTE “insisting and blogging about the bloody horrific event is a sign of a full blown DENIAL.” UNQUOTE
That is the unfortunate situation that I was placed in – my heart in denial of my mind – and my mind in denial of my heart.
That is the reason for my pursuing it at such lengths – to get to the truth – and I have encountered so many people on the way who were determined to obscure that truth – and still are.
BrianB,
You Rock!
ellumbra,
what you have in your blog is true. it is true not only to the philippines but the rest of the world. please don’t find yourself a wife on the internet. it’s the wrong place to be. it’s about word of mouth. any pinay friends in UK? that’s where you should start if you really want a filipina wife.
I will also give mayen the benefit of the doubt. i find her in distress and upset about her life situation. let’s blame our government for that, okay. Because i believe that poverty in our country is not a one way street. It is about opportunities for employment. Who’s fault is that?
so tim, no hard feelings, here ok. not all filipinas are like that. i have to react because I am a woman myself but you should tell all your friends not to find filipinas at online dating site. you might be right that they all maybe “pokpok”. you haven’t found the right filipina yet or the right woman for you. am sure there are many out there. it may just be in your own backyard.
one more thing: imelda marcos had 1000 pair of shoes. beware of women from leyte… ouch.
The original events of August 2007 – any attempt to understand them as merely the pitiful efforts of a young girl trying to scam money – are overshadowed by the duplicity of all that has happened since.
But strangely, it is this very duplicity, trying to cover up one deception with an even bigger one – that has revealed so much of the true nature of what, why and how it occurred and how this sort of behaviour has been allowed to flourish.
It is to the detrement of the Philippines that such profound deception be permitted.
It is the easiest task in the world to try to isolate the blame onto the girl, or to myself – but that does nothing to address the big problem – namely, that a business was involved and efforts have been made to try and clear its name online – these efforts have been made, almost exclusively, by Filipino bloggers – the real estate firm and the girl remaining completely in the shadows – hoping that by saturation of the Internet, saturation of propaganda – my story of the real events of August 2007 & since would be swept aside, forgotten, or viewed as a hoax.
I am alone in my efforts, as opposed to countless Filipino bloggers who are all connected somehow in real life or the blogosphere.
I do not need assistance – they obviously do – relying on numbers – quantity – to hoodwink the readers.
Yes – I find distress and upset when I consider what happened – that is a realistic assessment – and all the political reasons why – but the fact is that this has gone way further than “just a simple scam” – it has revealed how easily corruption can propogate itself in an atmosphere of fear and apathy.
Karl,
Don’t think the comments are about my post anymore.
EVERYONE.. THIS IS THE MODERATOR.. WE HAVE NEVER BANNED OR CENSORED ANYONE ON FV.. BUT IF DISCUSSIONS DO NOT REMAIN WITHIN THE TOPIC OF THE POST, WE WILL SOON HAVE TO MODERATE SUCH COMMENTS..
PLEASE BE RESPECTFUL OF THE WRITER AND STICK TO TOPIC!
My two cents…
Internet is free media. Who ever, what ever can post in it as long as one can read and write, can operate a computer, and has an Internet connection.
No other qualification as of ideological persuasion, occupation, or the like.
People,
Keep feeding the rabid animal and you only prolong its agony. Arguing with Ellumbra is like trying to convince a dog not to bark, pointless and generally seen as a waste of time.
Move along, nothing to see here but the ramblings of an old, sad, pathetic excuse of a man and a serious waste of oxygen.
This kinda just demonstrates the really simple reality that Pinoys, left to their own devices are utterly incapable of doing the right thing. :D
If a technology that democratises free speech can be so mis-used, what more a system of governance that democratises power.
Go figure, folks! :D
Sorry Nick, the topic is out of Substance. That needs to be censored not the commenter.
The discussion here has brought to a new level of reality on pinoy blogosphere. thanks to brianb’s no substance. :)
@thegreatest – hahahaha agree.
Nick, definitely a good rule to maintain. Unlike MLQ’s posts, which have any number of topics, FV’s more of a one-post-one-point site. My post, a reaction to perceived snobbery, certainly opened up many wounds throughout the blogosphere, but I am confident I have made my point clearly despite the hasty approach to this blog posting.
Still hoping Ding will reveal the name.
Leytenian, I’m not the type of person who reacts to ad hominems. Well, actually I am. Post your real identity, dude, coz your handle is one definite non-substance :) :)
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EVERYONE.. THIS IS THE MODERATOR.. WE HAVE NEVER BANNED OR CENSORED ANYONE ON FV.. BUT IF DISCUSSIONS DO NOT REMAIN WITHIN THE TOPIC OF THE POST, WE WILL SOON HAVE TO MODERATE SUCH COMMENTS..
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Nick,
That’s the way to go. It is time now that you read your blog. Have you noticed lately that everytime this one guy would make a post, it is always about me and my “character” that he love to feast on? I can take all these insults because I believe that I am better person than this guy, but by golly, it makes your blog no different from others, a forum for personalities and high-powered profanities.
Expect this guy to make a post over this piece and pay particular attention to his language. :)
@ The greatest QUOTE “People,
Keep feeding the rabid animal and you only prolong its agony. Arguing with Ellumbra is like trying to convince a dog not to bark, pointless and generally seen as a waste of time.
Move along, nothing to see here but the ramblings of an old, sad, pathetic excuse of a man and a serious waste of oxygen.” UNQUOTE
Would you care to identify yourself?
There is nothing remotely rabid, pathetic or sad about insisting that a conspiratorial deception be revealed for what it is.
This is bang on topic – relating precisely to Filipinos and their behaviour online.
It is interesting that Noemi Dado has remained silent here – silence being the escape clause of her guilt, in the absence of any legitimate, substantial proof to support her version of events.
Distribute your evil propaganda and then hide – that is the method used. Don’t stick around to discuss pertinent details – concentrate on personal attacks, creating a smokescreen – in typical fashion, the non-essentials will appear far more attractive than the nitty-gritty, the details – & provide a bandwagon for everyone else’s contempt.
those with foul language and managed to identify themselves are a little bit honorable compared to those who suffered from verbal diarhea and hide behind the shadow of digital anonymity, and secured under the concept that they can defecate in public places as long as they can cover their faces.
blogging philipine style? what else is new?
jcc,
i can create a fake blog name with a fake picture and pretend to be leytenian. a good example of that, is benigno. but i like his style, so let him be. the rest who provided their identities are not convincing enough.
i will email you my identity but i will sue you if that privacy is broken. :)
leytenian,
:) :)
as long as my posts make you smile, all my blogging would have not been in vain. :)
:)
@ Reyna Elena QUOTE “Rejoice Ellumbra, for once you’ve managed to get my lovely, undivided, voluntary and puking attention. I am aware how hard you’ve followed me. Knocking on my bloglogs, asking to be on my facebook, and bombarding my blog with your comments which are now in my akismet repository and boy how hard you’ve tried to get my attention, I did not realize that you’ve fallen for a cute guy in me hahaha! Pathetic.” UNQUOTE
FACTS – You have put an innordinate amount of time and energy into attempting to stain my story as a hoax.
I have repeatedly invited you to become friends on MySpace or Facebook to assist further detailed and honest discussion.
You have consistnently declined.
This proves that your sincerity regarding the truth is not in balance with the amount of time/energy you have been investing.
What can that mean?
Only one thing – that you are spreading malicious propaganda – and still are.
So what is your motive for all this?
@ Jepoy QUOTE “THIS IS THE LAST PLACE YOU WOULD WANT TO EXPOSE YOURSELF.” UNQUOTE
And just why would that be? Please explain.
I apologise for “hi-jacking” the thread, as Reyna Elena insinuates (wishing it to be cut dead to suit his purposes)- although in many ways it is connected.
But the facts are that I cannot comment on these people’s sites – the truth is too prominent for them – they censor and block my presence. I can only deal with these outbreaks where and when they occur.
leytenian,
I looked at the linked profile of a certain carlota joven caracut.
Impressive resume!
Free blogger you can make easy and can use google adsense online
http://onedayblog.com/
nice conversation..
visit also http://pinoyspace.info