Editor’s Note: this article was supposed to be featured during our Anniversary week, since Connie is a trailblazer when it comes to blogging in The Philippines, but we seemed to have overlooked it, we sincerely apologize to Connie and thank her for her thoughtful piece.
This is a guest blogging piece for FV, written by Connie Veneracion.
Recently, Jon Limjap shared a link in his Tweets about the “5 Great Men Who Built Their Careers On Plagiarism”. I did not cross check the factual validity of the claims, I figured that’s for every reader to do, but I shared the link in my Facebook account.
In the ensuing discussion that took place in my inbox, I was told that a college student habitually “rewrote” my blog entries, changing a few words here and there, passed them off as her work and got high grades for her essays. It’s not grapevine information as my source was her classmate and one of those who knew her gimmick.
One student’s atrocious behavior might seem like a little thing compared to the life-and-death situation of so many Filipinos. It might even seem whimsical to mention it when there are bigger and more serious scandals rocking government, business and society – an insignificant fleck in a country mired by war, economic depravity and a government that has long since forgotten the reason for its existence.
But anyone who dismisses little things like that miss a glaring truth staring at us in the face – that this behavior characterized by lack of consideration for the rights of other people and disregard for the greater good is not only rampant in government, politics and big businesses. It is everywhere. That student is only one of many who is too concerned with her own chances of making it in the work market. She is joined out there on the streets by jeepney, bus, taxi and tricycle drivers block multiple lanes to compete for passengers and justify their actions by saying, “Naghahanap buhay lang po” and by who vendors refuse to acknowledge that the sidewalk is for pedestrians.
That girl’s mentality is illustrated by private vehicle owners who still refuse to stop texting and with their customers and clients regardless of the danger that they pose on other motorists and pedestrians. It is illustrated by doctors who accept largesse from pharmaceutical companies for dispensing drugs still undergoing trial and making guinea pigs out of innocent patients. It is illustrated by newspapers and TV networks that call news blackouts on incidents that may adversely affect big advertisers.
Everyone is engaged in a game of survival – including the government and everyone in it.
Philippine society is full of critics — in media, on the Internet and out there on the streets. While it is a good thing to be aware of the shortcomings of government and to be vocal and critical about them, there is something seriously flawed when these very critics see wrongdoing coming only from one direction – government.
Political commentary these days has become a litany of what everyone in government is doing wrong. The self-righteousness is simply mind blowing. The predictability has gotten tiresome. Most aren’t even good beyond rehashing newspaper headlines and reports. But what do these critics stand for? Can they – in all honesty – claim that they do not engage in the shitty game of survival and that they do not trample on the rights of other people day in and day out? Or do they hide behind their anonymity and insignificance, hoping that no one will ever find out what they really are and what they do in real life so that they can never be publicly criticized and never feel what it’s like to be at the other end of the whiplash?
We already know who they are against – they make that very clear in a very redundant manner – but what do these self-proclaimed guardians of freedom and democracy believe in and what are they willing to fight for? While they never seem to run out of criticisms, they fail to realize that any criticism is only as good as the counter proposal it seeks to promote. Without that counter proposal – without that bright idea as to how things ought to be done – then, political commentary is nothing but huffing and puffing, a form of high brow entertainment, pseudo-intellectual masturbation or all of that.
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The farmer said: “Very easy. You come here uninvited, offered your services without being asked and wanted to be paid for an information that I knew already and you have no idea what a cow is. Give me back my goat”.
Moral lesson: A farmer has his own talent that is desirable than the talent of any well-credentialed blogger.
bull crap:
you don't have citations in hyde park. that's ridiculous.
jcc,
in addition, i think the moral lesson in this story is not only that the farmer has its own talent but the politician has no clue what a farmer can do. In other words, personalities in public office do not know how to manage the talent and skills of the people in this country.
To connie, welcome to FV and glad to hear from another woman blogger.
About plagiarism, it is not a crime unless the originality of the material was in the stream of commerce with a monetary value to it. Most of the original material contains disclaimer such as " infringement" . Most material in the internet are provided for the purpose of "SHARING" not because the owner has the concern of PLAGIARISM. When one is willing to share such information then one is assumed to take the risk and should bear the liability. Sharing information is giving and one should not be selfish about it. Plagiarism is not a crime unless profitability is lost.
Leytenian,
You have been honing on those legal concepts lately and quite on the mark. Plagiarism is an academic crime but not a criminal code crime. As Renato would muse, you are getting better. :) :)
Considering that tons of information are being processed out there, what are the chances of two or more people having the same frame of mind coming up with identical viewpoint and couched it in almost identical language? -
i’ll give you something better – not just two or more – but 2.1 billion.
watch them kneel, in the same frame of mind, couched in TOTALLY IDENTICAL LANGUAGE.
Cat:
True that. However, I think this page – http://www.os2bbs.com/OS2News/OS2History.html puts the statement in context. Essentially, Microsoft pulled a fast one on IBM.
The rest is history.
Cat:
True that. However, I think this page – http://www.os2bbs.com/OS2News/OS2History.html puts the statement in context. Essentially, Microsoft pulled a fast one on IBM.
The rest is history.
sheesh… follower of a PLAGIARIZED religion.. say your PLAGIARIZED prayers.. and read your PLAGIARIZED bible… ROTFLMAO
you are missing the point.
it's not about the messenger. or the source of the message. it's the message.
plagiarized or not – the message is on track – your belief in a deity has no leg to stand on.
not counterproposal but proof of "lying". most, if not all politicians, lie. the question is, did the alleged lie unfairly cause injury to anyone (please don't give the political answer that it "damaged" the nation).
leytenian:
i understand your point.
imho, the politician is the product and the management services the politican renders is a product feature.
unless we buy the product, we don't get to use its features.
isn't benigno already doing that all the time? some people are full of hate. if it's not their parents they are blaming, it's "gloria", the whole government, their own people, their country or their GOD. for them, everybody else is to blame but themselves. but they reserve their most lethal venom for "gloria" and her family.
Bencard,
Bulls-Eye. We keep pointing our fingers to others when we should be blaming ourselves. Benign0 and Company would blame the government for undertaking a “Program to Export the Maids”, but would not blame the parents for having so many children whom they cannot support and ended up as Maids.
jcc:
I think Benign0 has an earlier post made YEARS BEFORE that admonish parents on having many children they can’t support. The comment was made YEARs before blogging came into existence.
I would even say that content-wise, timing-wise, Get Real Philippines (where said post was made) was a blog masquerading as a static web site.
Cat:
All the stuff you folks are bitchin about – "Political commentary" – that's a GAP.
The folks doin the bitchin – that's the folks making the demand. – "Philippine society is full of critics — in media, on the Internet and out there on the streets. " – you can segment 'em.
The folks bitched about – "everyone in government" – that's the product being supplied.
Repositioning the brand or perception of "superior" – "While they never seem to run out of criticisms, they fail to realize that any criticism is only as good as the counter proposal it seeks to promote. Without that counter proposal – without that bright idea as to how things ought to be done – then, political commentary is nothing but huffing and puffing, a form of high brow entertainment, pseudo-intellectual masturbation or all of that."
Screw mastrubation, try intercourse.
Let me comment. I have two things in my mind here.
First, the author took her moorings from a girl she claims 'habitually rewrite' her blog entries. That she gets high grades for these essays. And it is her gimmick. Despite the rather light words used, Connie refers to the student's atrocious behavior on one point as she refers to the same as 'little thing' on another.
That confuses me whether she is vehemently against this girl's mentality as to warrant a claim that such act was indeed plagiarism or that such act indicates the 'lack of consideration for the rights of others'.
As a rallying point, the author likens this girl's behavior as whimsical in the face of 'the bigger and more serious scandals rocking government' – 'a government that has long since forgotten its reason for its existence'.
Second, how sooner did she glide down to tackling Philippine society and its critics.
Let us quote what she said – "While it is a good thing to be aware of the shortcomings of government and to be vocal and critical about them, there is something seriously flawed when these very critics see wrongdoing coming only from one direction – government."
How else should it be done?
Third, and last. She took occasion to turn the table around labelling political commentary especially as a 'litany of what everyone in government is doing wrong' as in effect 'trampling upon the rights of others day in and day out'. Ergo, she say – "they fail to realize that any criticism is only as good as the counter proposal it seeks to promote."
Thus, absent a counter-proposal, no one has any right to criticize anyone in government much less the bigger or more serious scandals that rock it.
What a subterfuge? What a convenient way to deflect the issue it is thought to address with seeming concern? And this, we all love to read. We don't take offense. The title alone is disgusting, even unfair since the field she got herself in is precisely one that thrives on political commentaries.
Now, pray tell, we all wanted to be called pseudo-intellectual masturbators? Up to this point, no response was coming from the one who threw this kind of well, equally – 'nothing but huffing and puffing'.
Who is the intellectual masturbator if not she who self-pleasures herself, her dildo her delusions she is the most intelligent of all, her mind the fountain of all that is superior, everything contrary coming from the minds of fools.
Amen to that.
Give pearls to the swine and she will not see the value. Yes I am calling Connie a swine. We heap criticisms to the government because we want change and maybe to shame the government officials into doing what is right since they were elected to lead and they have the power to implement the changes. It makes me puke to see our president being so proud talking to our OFWs overseas. She should be ashamed of herself because during her rule, we are sending more and more OFWs abroad at the cost of divided families and broken homes. Where are her promised jobs?
The last time I read about Ms Veneracion is when she had problems with Amado V Hernandez! :-)
Ms Veneracion should by sassy enough to know her legal remedies about plagiarism. She can lodge a complaint with the Dean of the College where that plagiarizing student is enrolled. There are heaps of precedents that show students being suspended (too light), expelled (much better) or stripped of their degree (the SCORP upheld the UP on this) as punishment for plagiarism. Just complaining in a blog is I believe self-gratification. After all it may seem that plagiarism may be a form of flattery here.
And BTW, what is Ms Veneracion's counter proposal in this blog piece? She doesn't have any for plagiarism. Now who is intellectually self gratifying here?>
you keep saying “you people keep challeging” me for credential. Who these people are? Are you hallucinating?
This query is for BB, not for Blackshama, wrong sequence. :)
@JCC,
You said… "Does BB want to sit in judgment as to who should be allowed to speak and who should not in Pinoy blogsphere? "
If i could, why not?! Lest you forget, its some of your ka-chika who actually threw the "who should be allowed to speak and who should not in Pinoy blogsphere" thus the credentials challenged. Remember? Ya'all won't be able to get out of that challenge. So yeah, it's not about – "Are we back to credentials?" It's on your tables to show it. I showed mine. Remember?
BB,
I showed mine BB but I don’t have to, and I would not demand that from you. If you demand credential as a precondition for the right of anyone to speak you are effectively muzzling the freedom of the press. This freedom recognizes both your right to be enamored to a particular type of speech as well the right of someone else to speak the ideas you hated.
If I parse your trend of thought, you seem to agree with Hitler’s right of the Arian race to populate the Germany because they are far superior than the Jews.
nah nah nah JCC, this is like a bad merry go round. i don’t think it was me who set those pre-conditions. i am reyna elena and not those FV bloggers who made the challenge. you’re blasting the wrong tree.
I see no one challenging my credentials here at FV. So who asked for your credentials here at FV? It would be unfair to fault FV for the demand of one writer/commenter here for your credentials.
i just followed on your reply that if you could be a judge to determine who should write/speak in Pinoy blog you’ll be glad to do it. or did i get a wrong impression in that post?
@jcc,
you keep saying you’ve shown me your credentials, heck i don’t know who you showed it to, but hey, feel free to send it here: ofwcenter@gmail.com
BB,
You said earlier that I have my own personal battle to fight and that gave me a hint that you had been at my site. My credential was there. I was like an open book as what Karl Garcia said. I have nothing to hide. I saw your credential when Cat told me about you through a link and I found out that you were once a financial director of this housing market in the U.S.
Should anyone be intimadated by your credential? I was not and maybe there are others who feel the same.
So stop flaunting your credential – nobody it seems, is interested with it. But if someone here at FV was looking for it, please direct your BIO directly to him/her.
@JCC,
Yes, I was once! And now, i will FLAUNT IT TO YOU and TO SOME OF YOU who questioned and challenged, especially sa mga Pinoy na tiga-San Francisco hahaha! Yea, this Director is no longer Director but a CFO. I’m sure as once a lawyer (tama ba?) you must have run accross that title. So, I asked you now, can we compare credentials given that you are in America too? Where you are and where am I? I guess that’s a fair one, right?
Nor am I intimidated by all the fake credentials by some of your colleagues and who knows even yours. Understand that this was a challenged on me. So, why can i not challenge FV now? Ano kayo? Mga dyosa??? Why can’t FV paste your credentials on the about page? That would be a big help to understand kung sino ka. What’s the problem? I’m sure you’re not interested in mine that’s why this is bothering you so much that one barriotic guy like me would have such a credential like that. You and FV cannot admit but you people became very judgemental to Reyna Elena. My credentials could pose intimidating to some Pinoy Amerikans who are pretentious but who have no clear accomplishments in America. Agree? Do you know of somebody who blogs at FV na ganun, because I have a name that you know very well. Nakatira sya sa California who has this nasty incident with Puno about disbarment. Maybe you can correct the information I have.
How do you reconcile this now JCC? First, you people challenged me with mine since the only thing you people know was that this Reyna Elena was barriotic and gay and when I slapped you people with my credentials, now you cry – stop flaunting it? What gives JCC??? You might have not been the person who challenged me but this is soooo bothering you. You were expecting na Reyna do not have that kind of credentials kaya irita ka lang to find out that indeed mine were real at ngayong naibalandra ko to your faces, stop flaunting? Get real! Kung former lawyer ka, you should have understood this whole case from the beginning or pick and twist ka lang? Baka yan ang reason kung bakit ka na-disbar? At least my CPA is active and I still have my license. What about yours?
BB,
I was not disbarred. If you go to the rolls of attorneys at Supreme Court website you will still see my name there. But that is beside the point. I said I am not interested in showing my credential, but not afraid either to show it if one will look for it. It was in my blog and I do not intend to hide it.
So who asked for your credential? If there is one, give that to her/him. Please do not fault FV because one or two commenters here had asked for your credential.
I am not intimidated by your credential, nor do I intend to intimidate you with mine. At FV, most of us are nobody… So if you think you are sombebody, please go that blog sites which are credential-laden and be comfortable in the company of your fellow-credentialed-bloggers”.
Heck, if you’re not showing me your credential. Then don’t! You’re not breaking any Presidential Decree. I’ve already done my background checks and as far as I am concerned i don’t see it on the About Page of FV. I don’t know what part of that argument you don’t understand.
I don’t know who asked for your credential. Did I? Or you’re just pushing it to me? You need not worry. I already know about you which you probably noticed already. There’s a whole discussion of this JCC that you can read over the weekend. Make a book report instead. Feel free to visit my site and Sparks entry.
Cool. We’re in balanced.
Most of you are nobody? That’s not what I’ve read NOR reading? Opinion makers? Intellectuals? And the rest of the readers are jologs low class that are not up to par with you? Heck! This was how it all started! The challenge! Now you’r nobody? Haller! It did not start from me, remembah?!
Well, I’m a barrio GURL, who was able to escape poverty shit with no connections and yes, I am somebody. I am REYNA ELENA. Hahaha! Baklita who took on the challenge that’s now in your hands by choice. To tell me to move to wherever is not very lawyer-ly response isn’t it? That’s pretty immature to me. My credentials are plastered in my blog entry. I don’t think it was plastered in here by myself. Have you seen it JCC??? If you can’t stomach my credentials from the links given you by Cat and as you have just said you’re not intimidated, then why are you so bothered by it?
me bothered by your credential? tst. tsk, tsk.. sige na nga “bothered na kung bothered” matigil ka na lang. :)
actually im a cringing in fear about your credentials… nginig, nginig, at nignig pa rin.
@JCC,
GOOD! or else tatawagin ko ang bago kong BFF na si Renata Facifica Falayfay! hahaha
Ms Veneracion I believe is sassy enough as a lawyer to know that she has legal remedies against plagiarists. She can lodge a complaint with the student's Dean. There are a lot of precedents and even the SCORP has upheld drastic penalties.
Now what exactly is her counter proposal here? Without this her gripes seem to be something like intellectual self gratification
believe you me magdalena, given that you are a fanatic FV commenter cloaked in anonymity who did not raise hell with the faggotness label, i'm sure you and some of the FV bloggers here have no class either. you are as guilty as these people.
i am screen capturing this comment since my comments are not appearing.
reyna,
first, if you review all the comment threads in FV, you will find that magdalena is not ‘a fanatic FV commenter’. she only responded to your comments, far as i observed.
second, some of your comments not appearing is being experienced also by us ‘fanatic FV commenter’. there are still some glitch in the new format, but Nick is promising us something is being done.
I got class! 2nd class, like you.!!!! HA!HA!HA!HA!
Renata my BFF,
BAKLITA KA RIN?! hahahaha! Leche ka! Drag Queen ka lan pala! hahaha
I agree that
. A similar concept uses Key Performance Indicators or KPIs.
The open source wiki elaborates
Some more known KPIs for governance might include: Poverty Distribution, Employment Levels, Jobs Generated, Per Capita Income, etc.
Politicians as "Products"
I agree that
.
However, before the politician gets to become manager, he has to go through a screening process. He has to self himself as a product that comes with certain features ("good manager", "honest", "good track record", etc) and the benefits/advantages ("easily accessible","will streamline government agencies", "will implement green technologies", "will support charter change", etc)
In that sense, the politician is a "product".
The public "buys" (or elects) the product due to a positive perception of its features and advantages.
The public "rejects" (or does not elect) the product due to a negative perception of its features and advantages.
It is only after the "purchase" (confirmation of election results) that the public is able to avail of the product's features ("good manager", etc.)
bong,
ok, you said : “politicians can be the product”.true only to the countries where democracy exist and outcome such as cosutomers satisfaction is high. In our country, how do you explain a politician cheating during election, buying of votes during election and accept bribes from private entities ? Your reality does not match the outcome. If we did have good managers in the past and up to the present, don’t you think the outcome in economic sense should have improved. Why is it that the consumers ( people) remain very unhappy with poor majority?
Going back to the topic, the outcome from the discusion of this blog should provide a solution, right? And here’s my assessment: Since plagiarism is an academic offense, i would suggest that universities and academic institutions should create its own strategic plan to prevent Plagiarism. There’s plenty of software out there that can scan and compare papers if one is plagiarized. There should also be a policy that may penalize students if caught.
In this situation, the oligopoly nature of the market can be described as:
* product – the politician
* suppliers of products – oligarchs/trapos/elite
* cheating – is a market abnormality introduced by the suppliers (NOT the product) to ensure product sales
* consumers – people.
The metaphor matches the reality.
Bong,
Is it not oligopoly belongs to the rich and the politicians? the connection of MONOPOLY of POWER and Political Dynasty cannot be ignored.
Let’s focus on the outcome…
Ok, let’s accept that there exist an Oligopolistic Nature of the Market, what is the role of policymakers ( politicians) in terms of policymaking, regulation, de-regulation and legilastion of Bills that may influenced market stability? ( in short- policies, treaties and the law of the land)
Please explain the job description of public servant and its role to an oligopolistic market. I bet you can explian this better than benigno and JCC :)
sige jud dong…
on my iphone… difficult to plagiarize… :)
I agree that
. A similar concept uses Key Performance Indicators or KPIs.
The open source wiki elaborates
Some more known KPIs for governance might include: Poverty Distribution, Employment Levels, Jobs Generated, Per Capita Income, etc.
Politicians as "Products"
I agree that
.
However, before the politician gets to become manager, he has to go through a screening process. He has to self himself as a product that comes with certain features ("good manager", "honest", "good track record", etc) and the benefits/advantages ("easily accessible","will streamline government agencies", "will implement green technologies", "will support charter change", etc)
In that sense, the politician is a "product".
The public "buys" (or elects) the product due to a positive perception of its features and advantages.
The public "rejects" (or does not elect) the product due to a negative perception of its features and advantages.
It is only after the "purchase" (confirmation of election results) that the public is able to avail of the product's features ("good manager", etc.)
Going back to the topic, the outcome from the discusion of this blog should provide a solution. And here’s my assessment: Since plagiarism is an academic offense, i would suggest that universities and academic institutions should create its own strategic plan to prevent it. There’s plenty of software out there that can scan and compare papers if one is plagiarized. There should also be a policy that may penalize students if caught.
Here at FV, blockquoting and referencing are standard for blogging. It’s no big deal.
Pinoys can never be original anyway :) ( this is arguable)
QUESTION: Political commentary: high brow entertainment or pseudo-intellectual masturbation?
ANSWER: Neither. It depends on the perception of the individual viewer.
QUESTION: Political commentary: high brow entertainment or pseudo-intellectual masturbation?
ANSWER: Neither (not to mention, masturbation can be high brow entertainment). Political commentary is not limited to both options (pseudo-options?). Political commentary can be informative, can provide how-to-guides, and rants
Correction, jcc. I wrote way back in this 2003 article:
Where and when exactly does “responsible parenting” start? Does it start when one already has four kids to feed, clothe, and educate? Or does it start when one first considers having them? It seems Filipinos have forgotten or choose to ignore the latter aspect of being a “responsible parent”.
Having children, then suddenly finding ourselves unable to provide for them is irresponsible. Seeking foreign employment at the expense of sound parenting and labeling it as heroism white-washes this collective irresponsibility and further adds to the counts of this irresponsibility.
It is irresponsible for one to produce offspring without considering one’s long-term ability to provide for them materially as well as emotionally and spiritually. Foreign employment and abortion are sometimes the results of this lack of planning. Leaving one’s young children to seek employment overseas is different from abortion in only one aspect: with abortion, the social problem ends right there and then; with foreign employment involving young children, the problems just begin. OFWs who “sacrifice” family life and the people who lionise them as “heroes” forget that these absentee-parents are turning loose unto an already dysfunctional society a whole generation of absentee-parented youth. Their “sacrifice” is our society’s sacrifice as well in terms of the burden of absorbing this absentee-parented generation. The absentee-parented generation will be no improvement over a generation that already failed dismally at collectively building a strong state.
Do your homework first before you bang on your keyboard Attorney.
Benigno,
I am sorry about that. I was at FV for few months and certainly would miss your 2003 position. Been exposed recently on your position about the plight of our maids who were part of the “maids for export” by the government.
The fact that you do not know how it should be done beyond this it’s-government’s-fault style here is precisely the point.
As Einstein say:
Problems cannot be solved using the same thinking that created them.
To solve a problem you need to approach it using a different way of thinking.
Decades of looking for political solutions has so far yielded ZILCH.
The problem with Pinoys is that our issues are cultural. Change the culture and you will get a sustainable outcome.
Politics merely reflect the character of the society upon which it exists.
Agree. The sum total of individual perceptions in the segment that has the numeric superiority a follows the trend curve leading to KAGUNGGONGAN and along with it, transformation of segments of the B group into palengkeras.
leytenia wrote:
I am not sure if I understand your question correctly. But allow me to reply in case the answer is in the affirmative.
Within the context of the oligopoly metaphor:
The politicians’ (products) services – {policymaking | regulation | de-regulation | legislation of Bills} (product features) influence market stability primarily through the cost (or price) paid for the services rendered.
Consumers wouldn’t mind if the costs are too low, because that works in their favor. However, increasing the cost (overhead + pilferage) of the product will impact the market.
* If the cost of the product becomes too high, the consumers start looking for alternatives. (look at other politicians)
* Companies that collude with each other in an oligopolic market might consider providing new products to increase market share among discontented consumers. (Cojuangco Group vs Ramos Group vs Arroyo Group)
* New entrants might also come in to challenge the dominant suppliers. (CPP/NPA, MILF/MNLF)
When the consumers perceive that they are not getting the product features they paid for, consumers can:
* demand a refund
* demand a recall
* sue the supplier
* boycott the suppliers
* inflict damage to the suppliers facilities
If these corrections are not enough, the market can crash (revolution/extra-constitutional regime change) and reset till it finds a new equilibrium level.
By “public servant” are you referring to the elected public servants as opposed to career public servants?
mahubagan man sad ta nimo nang :)
My original comment was deleted.
Here it is:
What is the relevance of the demand/suppy gap and market repositioning lecture on the article by sassy lawyer?
This is not intellectual masturbation. This is more intellectual exhibitionism.
Trying to impress me with your copy pasted Kotler new acquired knowledge in marketing concepts.
duh.
Cat:
As far as am concerned, I know jacksh*t about you, and no – am not trying to impress you. That’s your perception of my statement. If your mind tells you that all new people you meet are out to impress you, I suggest that you go see a shrink and have yourself checked for Blog-induced Delusion of Grandeur.
As to the demand/suppy gap and market repositioning lecture on the article – in case you didn’t read it – that was an addendum and expounds my take on Benign0s comment.
you cannot expound benigno’s comment. He doesn’t have an originality. He takes all small ideas and make it as his own. He is the worst plagiarist in the blogosphere. He is undetectable. He doesn’t have a credential to support him except he hides his personality like Michael Jackson. Look at his picture…:)
Back to :
public servants are your senators, congressmen and the executives- all the personnels voted by the people. anybody employed by the Philippine government who has a role, a legal duty where people expect them to perform. A duty by the statute or a duty owed to the people of this country- the law of the land.
FYI, I am only few yesr older than you but younger looking than you.
Hint: if you are employed as the managing director of your company, how do you make things happen for this company to compensate you and award you. Would you engage in corruption and fraudulent tactics? Apply this concept not your Marketing 101 concept kay malibog ka…
And… ayaw jud ko tawaga ug Manang kay makatilaw jud ka… :) LOL
Silver:
I can go ahead and get to the meat of the post.
However, I include references to the wiki to define the topic being discussed to establish a common ground on the issue because there are other readers who might not have the same understanding of the concept – or for whom the concept may be new.
By providing a common definition of the concept, we start off comparing apples and apples instead of apples and oranges and eliminate equivocation.
If the concept is familiar to you, then your contribution given your mastery and familiarity of the topic will be most appreciated.
Of course, the alternative is just be the typical Old School Flip who’ll just “whine” about the commenter – and thinks that whining is a reply to the comment and that whining makes up a counter-proposal.
All there is a need is to give the link and copy an excerpt of anything one would like to hightlight.
Use your own ideas for once. hindi naman magagasgas ang utak mo.
Even in the classroom, the students are not allowed to report verbatim. They have to come up with their own definition and understanding of a concept.
Besides your example for demand and supply gap concept is lame. as in pilas. you get a failing grade for that.
Recite in your own words. DD.
Cat:
That’s your opinion. And I respect it. But I don’t agree with your opinion.
As, to YOU giving ME, a failing grade does not matter and is totally irrelevant – and from MY PERSPECTIVE of YOUR understanding of the concept of politics as a market- I can say that your understanding is LAME and you get a failing grade – or in the hood the concept was whooshing right above your head.
The idea of the politics and governance as a market – is it that hard to understand? ….. hmmmm….. lemme see… which blogger has that idea…. hmmmm… hmmmmmmmm….. hmmmmmmmmm….. esep esep .esep esep esep esep esep esep esep esep esep esep esep esep … hmmmmmmmm….
whhhhhooooooooshhhh. have soap-opera blog will read.:D
leytenian wrote:
Hint: if you are employed as the managing director of your company, how do you make things happen for this company to compensate you and award you. Would you engage in corruption and fraudulent tactics? Apply this concept not your Marketing 101 concept kay malibog ka….
Gotcha loud and clear, we can now dispense with the metaphor. :)
On the question of corruption and fraudulent tactics – A categorical NO. I would rather not be employed in that company, I’ll take my chances elsewhere. There has to be other companies where I don’t have to deal with such behavior.
As managing director, is this equivalent to CEO, COO? Does the buck stop with the director?
Who does the director report to? A VP? Senior VP? The Board?
Is the director empowered to propose changes to compensation? Who approves proposed changes to compensation? Is there a performance evaluation process? Can renumeration include performance-based incentives, i.e. if you meet 100% of annual goals – you get performance bonus, all-paid vacation to a spa/resort destination not more than 1000 miles from your corporate office.
Is compensation limited to monetary renumeration? Or can we include perks? For example, instead of a raise, the company pays the cost of phone bill, Internet connection, provides car allowance, medical/dental/vision insurance, 401K, stock options – this has significant monetary value. It does not appear as a raise, but it sure keeps your money in your wallet – and adds up. And if the company can throw in so that you have twice the vacation benefits of staff – some prefer being compensated with more vacation – if you are given a two week vacations extra on top of your regular one week vacation (with pay) – assuming your hourly rate as director is $30/hour; a two-week vacation is equivalent to 80 hours – that’s like getting a $2400 pay raise on an annualised basis;
hmmm… for that, i’ll need evidence.. if true, then, ug hubag man jud diay ka, ayayay makatilaw gyud ug pinya, spank me. just kidding :P LOL
dang, can’t edit the comment :(
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leytenian wrote:
Gotcha loud and clear, we can now dispense with the metaphor.
On the question of corruption and fraudulent tactics – A categorical NO. I would rather not be employed in that company, I’ll take my chances elsewhere. There has to be other companies where I don’t have to deal with such behavior.
As managing director, is this equivalent to CEO, COO? Does the buck stop with the director?
Who does the director report to? A VP? Senior VP? The Board?
Is the director empowered to propose changes to compensation? Who approves proposed changes to compensation? Is there a performance evaluation process? Can renumeration include performance-based incentives, i.e. if you meet 100% of annual goals – you get performance bonus, all-paid vacation to a spa/resort destination not more than 1000 miles from your corporate office.
Is compensation limited to monetary renumeration? Or can we include perks? For example, instead of a raise, the company pays the cost of phone bill, Internet connection, provides car allowance, medical/dental/vision insurance, 401K, stock options – this has significant monetary value. It does not appear as a raise, but it sure keeps your money in your wallet – and adds up. And if the company can throw in so that you have twice the vacation benefits of staff – some prefer being compensated with more vacation – if you are given a two week vacations extra on top of your regular one week vacation (with pay) – assuming your hourly rate as director is $30/hour; a two-week vacation is equivalent to 80 hours – that’s like getting a $2400 pay raise on an annualised basis;
hmmm… for that, i’ll need evidence.. if true, then, ug hubag man jud diay ka, ayayay makatilaw gyud ug pinya, spank me. just kidding :P LOL
BONG
Let me ask you this: Why are public servants with full knowledge of corruption remain to stay in power and extend services to work for the company, Philippine INC instead of fighting against it. Many even extend their power from one generation to other.
Bong… Public or Private entities have almost the same duties to the people and customers they serve. The CEO of Philippine is Gloria. What is her role? what about the concept of teamwork?
ambot nimo dong.. uy
There is no one-size fits all answer. But the common ones I have heard are:
* This is fate. Swerte.
* The job is secure even if I am unproductive I do nothing and I still get paid.
* I can use my job to do business – I can sell longganiza, tocino, real estate to my officemates and the public
*
Sus na lang nimo nang, I have this feeling that you are asking questions to which you already have the answer. In which case, Why don’t you present your take on the subject, I am interested to hear your perspective and engage in a dialog.
Thanks a lot.
And it is you only mighty one who understand it that’s why you label the readers as well as some commenters here as gunggong.
How is the air up there, braggart?
cat
anong problema mo? having a bad hair day? PMS?
And you are lecturing in the Filipino Voices, i presumed. But you suck. you are not only out of topic but you are a good example of what sassy lawyer is saying. a copycat.
Again, it is just all theories that you are discussing. Tell me when you are done reporting and i am going to wake up in my nap.
copycat? politics seen from a marketing point was copied by me from who?
theories? everyone’s discussing theories and perspectives.
silly silly cat :D
This thread is going the way of ad hominems ang pissing contests.
But When is innovation building on ‘original’ formulations such as the jeepney and when are such instances ‘plagiarized work/s’?
Through man’s existence hasn’t the treasure trove of knowledge and life-uplifting technologies come from building block upon building block?
The key, methinks humbly, is proper recognition to ‘borrowed’ ideas, respect for intellectual property rights, and in the end celebrating the human spirit?
I TOTALLY AGREE WITH BONGV,in his post above!
SINCE, we Flips are extremely religious, we shouldn’t be sending our slaves to a NON-ROMAN CATHOLIC COUNTRIES!!!!!!
… It’s like not giving your daughter to a godless husband-to-be ….
So, we are sending our slaves to non-catholic countries to reap what they have sown that our god has failed to provide?
WHERE IS THIS GOD ANYWAY? BOKSING TAYO GOD!!!!! HUH? GOD? WHERE THE FAK ARE YOU GOD?
I declared war on God and realized there was no God after all ….
HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!
<blockquote.True that. However, I think this page – http://www.os2bbs.com/OS2News/OS2History.html puts the statement in context. Essentially, Microsoft pulled a fast one on IBM.
thank you for the link. It just confirmed my statement. lol.
Were there two times already that I heard reyna elena complained how her long comments were not posted? Incidentally, they must be some violent reaction to my comment(s) here or elsewhere.
I hope reyna elena does not write yet another blog on benigno’s recurrent theme which incidentally was a vain attempt to “flash” his deceivingly vicious ‘superiority complex’.
In any event, we are not under any “central government” here so – it’s everybody’s life.
Who is this REYNA ELENA? What are her credentials? I hope she’s not one of those pekeng-peryodistas!!!!
HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!
Renata Pacifica Falayfay,
hahaha what happened to you? for a moment i thought you were already a Reyna convert at the other post by PM hahaha
nah! i don’t even buy perIODiko hehehe
Diagnosis of a garbage social commentary
What is pseudo-intellectual masturbation if I accuse your blog containing such?
My concern is your illusionary commensuration of unrestrained agency and social pathologies. Well, both are problems which needs to be addressed, but you just mixed your subjective opinions into a totalizing problem and placed much weight on the agency over structural political problems such as class and such.
Your conservative ideas are protectionist of the current social condition.
“She is joined out there on the streets by jeepney, bus, taxi and tricycle drivers block multiple lanes to compete for passengers and justify their actions by saying, “Naghahanap buhay lang po” and by who vendors refuse to acknowledge that the sidewalk is for pedestrians.”
This is how a fascist would think – preserve the right of pedestrians over vendors’ survival . . . what an epistemic waste. You have to identify what is an offshoot of the other, and what pushes for the emergence of the other. Don’t mislead your viewers, there’s are so much misleading narratives on this society – stop producing more.
“While they never seem to run out of criticisms, they fail to realize that any criticism is only as good as the counter proposal it seeks to promote. Without that counter proposal – without that bright idea as to how things ought to be done – then, political commentary is nothing but huffing and puffing, a form of high brow entertainment, pseudo-intellectual masturbation or all of that.”
I admire your cynical poetry; however, the context is awful. Critique to the government is more than corruption and repressive policies – it is a critique on the government as the core ideological apparatus of the ruling elite.
It somehow aims for a gradual change over social condition without compromising peoples’ survival needs. It is obvious that squatting is a social dilemma, yet activist work for their rights. Squatters are victims of a social predicament called poverty: how in any way can you accuse and blame them of authoring their own condition.
I should say that you have to recognize different avenues of resistance. You should learn to decipher political morphology as key for a concrete analysis of social fragments.
Indeed, blogging is destructive, especially with analysis like yours.