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		<title>By: cocoy</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/poverty-is-a-simple-issue-really/comment-page-1#comment-23530</link>
		<dc:creator>cocoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 02:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>poverty is not a simple issue. if it was, humankind would have wiped it off the face of the Earth decades ago. 

Flow raises a good point: 
&lt;blockquote&gt;Pero nasagot na ba ng pamahalaan hindi lang sa bansang ito kundi sa ibang bansa na kung paano sasagutin ang issue ng kahirapan partikular na ang problema ng financial crisis na sinasabi ninyo?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

(I apologize for responding in English to a comment written in Filipino.)

though i disagree that solving poverty is primarily and ONLY a government action, i understand where he is coming from. This is the same pain every Filipino feels every single day. They go through it because they don&#039;t see any change around them. Our people only know negativity. And those at the top see them as cannon fodder and not as people.

While Capitalism has spurred the creation of wealth-- going forward the Market has to change. The Market and Social Enterprise are not at cross purposes. The Market is a tool to bring about social enterprise because both celebrate hardwork, enterprise, ingenuity, responsibility and not excesses and not simply about the money. 

Social Enterprise needs the Market to fuel itself and the Market needs social enterprise to be beyond money for money&#039;s sake. It therefore becomes the responsibility of those who wield the Market to use it to better society. And I think that is one of many lessons this Financial Crisis is teaching us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>poverty is not a simple issue. if it was, humankind would have wiped it off the face of the Earth decades ago. </p>
<p>Flow raises a good point: </p>
<blockquote><p>Pero nasagot na ba ng pamahalaan hindi lang sa bansang ito kundi sa ibang bansa na kung paano sasagutin ang issue ng kahirapan partikular na ang problema ng financial crisis na sinasabi ninyo?</p></blockquote>
<p>(I apologize for responding in English to a comment written in Filipino.)</p>
<p>though i disagree that solving poverty is primarily and ONLY a government action, i understand where he is coming from. This is the same pain every Filipino feels every single day. They go through it because they don&#8217;t see any change around them. Our people only know negativity. And those at the top see them as cannon fodder and not as people.</p>
<p>While Capitalism has spurred the creation of wealth&#8211; going forward the Market has to change. The Market and Social Enterprise are not at cross purposes. The Market is a tool to bring about social enterprise because both celebrate hardwork, enterprise, ingenuity, responsibility and not excesses and not simply about the money. </p>
<p>Social Enterprise needs the Market to fuel itself and the Market needs social enterprise to be beyond money for money&#8217;s sake. It therefore becomes the responsibility of those who wield the Market to use it to better society. And I think that is one of many lessons this Financial Crisis is teaching us.</p>
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		<title>By: Flow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 01:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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Maaaring simple lang ang issue ng financial crisis para sa isang nagtratrabaho sa isang bangko kagaya mo Benigno, at gayon din sa mga taong nasa upper B classes pataas, pero para sa Broad C pababa ang simpleng tinatawag ninyong financial crisis ay hindi simpleng paghahagilap ng paghanap ng makakain para sa kanilang pamilya. Oo nakahanap si Madam Arroyo ng 1 Billion investment noong isang araw sa Qatar, gayon din ang 500 pesos na ipinamumudmod niya sa mga mahihirap. Pero nasagot na ba ng pamahalaan hindi lang sa bansang ito kundi sa ibang bansa na kung paano sasagutin ang issue ng kahirapan partikular na ang problema ng financial crisis na sinasabi ninyo?

Marahil hindi ninyo ito nakikita, lalo na sa mga taong nagsasabing simple lang ang nangyayari ngayon dahil sa tatlong bagay:

1. Hindi ninyo nararanasan ang hirap na dinadanas ng mga kababayan natin.
2. Alam ninyong may problemang ganito ngunit nagbabalat kayong ayaw ninyong harapin ang issue na ito bugkos sinasabi ninyong easy lang ang problemang ito.
3. O sadyang bulag lang ang iilan sa atin dahil kuntento na ang iba sa atin sa posisyon nila kaya sinasabi nilang OK LANG at WALANG PROBLEMA.

GET REAL ika nga maging totoo tayo sa kung anong nangyayari kaya walang nangyayari sa lipunan puro takbo tayo at puro substitution ang pinapanukala natin hindi natin puntuhin ang sitwasyon at haraping may PROBLEMA nga at anong MAGAGAWA KO</description>
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<p>Maaaring simple lang ang issue ng financial crisis para sa isang nagtratrabaho sa isang bangko kagaya mo Benigno, at gayon din sa mga taong nasa upper B classes pataas, pero para sa Broad C pababa ang simpleng tinatawag ninyong financial crisis ay hindi simpleng paghahagilap ng paghanap ng makakain para sa kanilang pamilya. Oo nakahanap si Madam Arroyo ng 1 Billion investment noong isang araw sa Qatar, gayon din ang 500 pesos na ipinamumudmod niya sa mga mahihirap. Pero nasagot na ba ng pamahalaan hindi lang sa bansang ito kundi sa ibang bansa na kung paano sasagutin ang issue ng kahirapan partikular na ang problema ng financial crisis na sinasabi ninyo?</p>
<p>Marahil hindi ninyo ito nakikita, lalo na sa mga taong nagsasabing simple lang ang nangyayari ngayon dahil sa tatlong bagay:</p>
<p>1. Hindi ninyo nararanasan ang hirap na dinadanas ng mga kababayan natin.<br />
2. Alam ninyong may problemang ganito ngunit nagbabalat kayong ayaw ninyong harapin ang issue na ito bugkos sinasabi ninyong easy lang ang problemang ito.<br />
3. O sadyang bulag lang ang iilan sa atin dahil kuntento na ang iba sa atin sa posisyon nila kaya sinasabi nilang OK LANG at WALANG PROBLEMA.</p>
<p>GET REAL ika nga maging totoo tayo sa kung anong nangyayari kaya walang nangyayari sa lipunan puro takbo tayo at puro substitution ang pinapanukala natin hindi natin puntuhin ang sitwasyon at haraping may PROBLEMA nga at anong MAGAGAWA KO</p>
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		<title>By: Underlying simplicity &#124; Filipino Voices</title>
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		<dc:creator>Underlying simplicity &#124; Filipino Voices</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 01:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] way the above koan is worded is just a legacy of my previously using it in a blog post describing our Pinoy-style regard for poverty in really REALLY simple terms. With a few changes, we can make it a bit more [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] way the above koan is worded is just a legacy of my previously using it in a blog post describing our Pinoy-style regard for poverty in really REALLY simple terms. With a few changes, we can make it a bit more [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Ultimate Poverty Framework™ &#124; Filipino Voices</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Ultimate Poverty Framework™ &#124; Filipino Voices</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 03:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] back in mid-October where I describe an elegantly simple take on Pinoy poverty: Poverty in the Philippines is a simple [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] back in mid-October where I describe an elegantly simple take on Pinoy poverty: Poverty in the Philippines is a simple [...]</p>
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		<title>By: A hobby of the impoverished mind &#124; Filipino Voices</title>
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		<dc:creator>A hobby of the impoverished mind &#124; Filipino Voices</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 01:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] folks, I am pretty clear about how I feel. One does not need to have experienced being poor to be really annoyed with [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] folks, I am pretty clear about how I feel. One does not need to have experienced being poor to be really annoyed with [...]</p>
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		<title>By: pumpy</title>
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		<dc:creator>pumpy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 22:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, it&#039;s not a simple as Benigno sees it because it&#039;s possible that population may become stable or go down when consumption through affluence goes up. Another problem is that consumption may go up when production and capital go up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, it&#8217;s not a simple as Benigno sees it because it&#8217;s possible that population may become stable or go down when consumption through affluence goes up. Another problem is that consumption may go up when production and capital go up.</p>
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		<title>By: karl garcia</title>
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		<dc:creator>karl garcia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 11:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The hell,I tried to tamper with benign0&#039;s framework and I ended up the only one who attempted to do so,Oh I forgot about The Cat with her what was that; trees,branches and leaves??

On another note,this is about respecting rules and lack of an identity.

One mentioned that maybe our lack of an identity maybe a good thing,for the global pinoy.

I have seen the commercials on how Filipinos follow traffic rules when abroad,on how they are  so disciplined.

On the extreme,there are ofws on death row.

But where do you draw the line to separate the primitive and a modern society? the most modern of societies can be chaotic,for all we know.

The only difference is the so called organized chaos or whatchamacollit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The hell,I tried to tamper with benign0&#8242;s framework and I ended up the only one who attempted to do so,Oh I forgot about The Cat with her what was that; trees,branches and leaves??</p>
<p>On another note,this is about respecting rules and lack of an identity.</p>
<p>One mentioned that maybe our lack of an identity maybe a good thing,for the global pinoy.</p>
<p>I have seen the commercials on how Filipinos follow traffic rules when abroad,on how they are  so disciplined.</p>
<p>On the extreme,there are ofws on death row.</p>
<p>But where do you draw the line to separate the primitive and a modern society? the most modern of societies can be chaotic,for all we know.</p>
<p>The only difference is the so called organized chaos or whatchamacollit.</p>
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		<title>By: benign0</title>
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		<dc:creator>benign0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 09:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;btw, change culture? try changing the culture of 80 million filipinos and i bet you’ll find it won’t be “simple, really”.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Bencard, when I say something is &lt;i&gt;simple&lt;/i&gt; I refer to its nature as a &lt;i&gt;concept&lt;/i&gt;.

Don&#039;t equate simplicity with the nature of the &lt;i&gt;effort to implement&lt;/i&gt; said solution.

For most people for example, observing simple traffic rules is a &lt;i&gt;simple&lt;/i&gt; solution because respecting rules is &lt;i&gt;innate&lt;/i&gt; to modern cultures. However in primitive cultures such as ours, it is made out to be a complex issue with staggeringly complex implementation considerations. Why? Because in societies such as ours, the degeneracy in culture that needs to be surmounted in order implement otherwise simple solutions is staggeringly, well, insurmountable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>btw, change culture? try changing the culture of 80 million filipinos and i bet you’ll find it won’t be “simple, really”.</p></blockquote>
<p>Bencard, when I say something is <i>simple</i> I refer to its nature as a <i>concept</i>.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t equate simplicity with the nature of the <i>effort to implement</i> said solution.</p>
<p>For most people for example, observing simple traffic rules is a <i>simple</i> solution because respecting rules is <i>innate</i> to modern cultures. However in primitive cultures such as ours, it is made out to be a complex issue with staggeringly complex implementation considerations. Why? Because in societies such as ours, the degeneracy in culture that needs to be surmounted in order implement otherwise simple solutions is staggeringly, well, insurmountable.</p>
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		<title>By: leytenian</title>
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		<dc:creator>leytenian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 18:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>benigno&#039;s interpretation is based on generalized macro and  micro... it&#039;s not the solution nor a fact but merely a foundation. hilig kasi si benigno nang framework. A fact must be supported to make it simple, really  :) 

Population and Consumption:
&quot;One factor is Environmental degradation: The negative impacts of environmental degradation are disproportionately felt by the poor. The poor often rely on natural resources to meet their basic needs through agricultural production and gathering resources essential for household maintenance, such as water, firewood, and wild plants for consumption and medicine. Thus, the depletion and contamination of water sources directly threaten the livelihoods of those who depend on them.

Production and Capital:
One factor is Centralization of Power. Political power is disproportionately centralized. Instead of having a network of political representatives distributed equally throughout society, in centralized systems of governance one major party, politician, or region is responsible for decision-making throughout the country. This often causes development problems. For example, in these situations politicians make decisions about places that they are unfamiliar with, lacking sufficient knowledge about the context to design effective and appropriate policies and programs that will affect the overall production and influx of capital. &quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>benigno&#8217;s interpretation is based on generalized macro and  micro&#8230; it&#8217;s not the solution nor a fact but merely a foundation. hilig kasi si benigno nang framework. A fact must be supported to make it simple, really  :) </p>
<p>Population and Consumption:<br />
&#8220;One factor is Environmental degradation: The negative impacts of environmental degradation are disproportionately felt by the poor. The poor often rely on natural resources to meet their basic needs through agricultural production and gathering resources essential for household maintenance, such as water, firewood, and wild plants for consumption and medicine. Thus, the depletion and contamination of water sources directly threaten the livelihoods of those who depend on them.</p>
<p>Production and Capital:<br />
One factor is Centralization of Power. Political power is disproportionately centralized. Instead of having a network of political representatives distributed equally throughout society, in centralized systems of governance one major party, politician, or region is responsible for decision-making throughout the country. This often causes development problems. For example, in these situations politicians make decisions about places that they are unfamiliar with, lacking sufficient knowledge about the context to design effective and appropriate policies and programs that will affect the overall production and influx of capital. &#8220;</p>
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		<title>By: Bencard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bencard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 17:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>benigno @ 6:37 am, thanks for affirming that being a &quot;DPS&quot; or benigno is not a matter of choice. 

btw, change culture? try changing the culture of 80 million filipinos and i bet you&#039;ll find it won&#039;t be &quot;simple, really&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>benigno @ 6:37 am, thanks for affirming that being a &#8220;DPS&#8221; or benigno is not a matter of choice. </p>
<p>btw, change culture? try changing the culture of 80 million filipinos and i bet you&#8217;ll find it won&#8217;t be &#8220;simple, really&#8221;.</p>
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