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		<title>By: Hansley A. Juliano</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/quezon-for-senator/comment-page-1#comment-120459</link>
		<dc:creator>Hansley A. Juliano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 15:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, thank you for being so desperate you will allow this aborted nation any chance of getting to an incubator. How selfish can you get, seriously?

This stupid, un-thought-of statement above shows exactly why politics should not be used to solve social questions. Nazi Germany got its legitmacy because of it. Stalinist Russia lasted so far because of it. The US has been its champion since forever. Extremist nationalism and social desperation are very good ingredients to allow totalitarian states taking over.

With your thinking in the BPO sector, I don&#039;t wonder why this administration is deluded into prostituting this nation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, thank you for being so desperate you will allow this aborted nation any chance of getting to an incubator. How selfish can you get, seriously?</p>
<p>This stupid, un-thought-of statement above shows exactly why politics should not be used to solve social questions. Nazi Germany got its legitmacy because of it. Stalinist Russia lasted so far because of it. The US has been its champion since forever. Extremist nationalism and social desperation are very good ingredients to allow totalitarian states taking over.</p>
<p>With your thinking in the BPO sector, I don&#8217;t wonder why this administration is deluded into prostituting this nation.</p>
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		<title>By: pinoythebest</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/quezon-for-senator/comment-page-1#comment-118601</link>
		<dc:creator>pinoythebest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 11:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My officemates in a BPO office are in unison as to who the next president should be.  We need erap back in office.  If Erap wins, we are almost assured of a P65-70 to a dollar exchange rate.  The higher, the better for us in the BPO businesses.  Pls make it happen.  Erap for pres.  If not, we&#039;ll settle for villar though as this sonomagun surely knows how to steal also. go philippines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My officemates in a BPO office are in unison as to who the next president should be.  We need erap back in office.  If Erap wins, we are almost assured of a P65-70 to a dollar exchange rate.  The higher, the better for us in the BPO businesses.  Pls make it happen.  Erap for pres.  If not, we&#8217;ll settle for villar though as this sonomagun surely knows how to steal also. go philippines.</p>
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		<title>By: Filo</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/quezon-for-senator/comment-page-1#comment-112073</link>
		<dc:creator>Filo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 05:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Chino, dong, Parallax, glad to see the important lessons weren&#039;t lost on you guys even though dong&#039;s sock puppet idea was not very helpful but definitely funny. If anything, Filipinos would benefit in adopting a Get It Right The First Time mentality to progress faster in everything. A mentality of no giving up, no round 2, just a full commitment to making the best choices in the shortest possible time. That mindset couldn&#039;t be any simpler. Maybe if pinoys could take on challenges like that then President Quezon wouldn&#039;t be shaking his head up in the clouds and we wouldn&#039;t be so frustrated with our leaders or life in general. Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Chino, dong, Parallax, glad to see the important lessons weren&#8217;t lost on you guys even though dong&#8217;s sock puppet idea was not very helpful but definitely funny. If anything, Filipinos would benefit in adopting a Get It Right The First Time mentality to progress faster in everything. A mentality of no giving up, no round 2, just a full commitment to making the best choices in the shortest possible time. That mindset couldn&#8217;t be any simpler. Maybe if pinoys could take on challenges like that then President Quezon wouldn&#8217;t be shaking his head up in the clouds and we wouldn&#8217;t be so frustrated with our leaders or life in general. Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: justice league</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/quezon-for-senator/comment-page-1#comment-111862</link>
		<dc:creator>justice league</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Parallax,

&lt;blockquote&gt; key points learned:

[8] the tendency of pinoys to give up almost immediately and pin the blame on somebody else is virtually irresistible, which highlights a society-wide problem &lt;/blockquote&gt; 

Very interesting.

There was this guy who stated &quot;You do admit having said these gems, right?&quot;.

And then quoted my statements: 

&quot;MLQ meant that even if there’s improvement but still run like hell; it can still/always be improved.
The government may regress from such improvement but that can still/always be improved.&quot;

And then he added &quot;Heck, you could drive anything rock bottom AND THEN say “it could still be improved.”&quot;

&lt;b&gt; So clearly the guy knew that I was pro-improvement through and through. &lt;/b&gt;

(We were a democracy, then the dictatorship came, and now we are a democracy again. So clearly we had a regression but improved back.)

Yet on the same post he charges that I&#039;m okay with marginal, minimal, ... magnitude of improvement &lt;b&gt; even though &lt;/b&gt; he&#039;s going to quote the part where I say &quot; ... it can still/always be improved.&quot;

If someone was actually okay with such magnitude of improvement, why would that someone imply that such magnitude can still/always be improved? Why not go for status quo instead if such magnitude of improvement was actually okay?


Then lo and behold &lt;b&gt; in the same post &lt;/b&gt;; the guy insinuates that my first instinct when faced with negligible, imaginary, far off-target, marginal, or minimal improvements, is to stop trying. The nerve of the guy.

Go check it out. http://filipinovoices.com/quezon-for-senator/comment-page-1#comment-111290


Well he got shown where that &quot;stop trying&quot; thing actually came from. It came from him.


&lt;blockquote&gt; [9] “talk to the hand” is really funny when it actually applies to the situation =vP &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Very interesting.

Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Parallax,</p>
<blockquote><p> key points learned:</p>
<p>[8] the tendency of pinoys to give up almost immediately and pin the blame on somebody else is virtually irresistible, which highlights a society-wide problem </p></blockquote>
<p>Very interesting.</p>
<p>There was this guy who stated &#8220;You do admit having said these gems, right?&#8221;.</p>
<p>And then quoted my statements: </p>
<p>&#8220;MLQ meant that even if there’s improvement but still run like hell; it can still/always be improved.<br />
The government may regress from such improvement but that can still/always be improved.&#8221;</p>
<p>And then he added &#8220;Heck, you could drive anything rock bottom AND THEN say “it could still be improved.”&#8221;</p>
<p><b> So clearly the guy knew that I was pro-improvement through and through. </b></p>
<p>(We were a democracy, then the dictatorship came, and now we are a democracy again. So clearly we had a regression but improved back.)</p>
<p>Yet on the same post he charges that I&#8217;m okay with marginal, minimal, &#8230; magnitude of improvement <b> even though </b> he&#8217;s going to quote the part where I say &#8221; &#8230; it can still/always be improved.&#8221;</p>
<p>If someone was actually okay with such magnitude of improvement, why would that someone imply that such magnitude can still/always be improved? Why not go for status quo instead if such magnitude of improvement was actually okay?</p>
<p>Then lo and behold <b> in the same post </b>; the guy insinuates that my first instinct when faced with negligible, imaginary, far off-target, marginal, or minimal improvements, is to stop trying. The nerve of the guy.</p>
<p>Go check it out. <a href="http://filipinovoices.com/quezon-for-senator/comment-page-1#comment-111290" rel="nofollow">http://filipinovoices.com/quezon-for-senator/comment-page-1#comment-111290</a></p>
<p>Well he got shown where that &#8220;stop trying&#8221; thing actually came from. It came from him.</p>
<blockquote><p> [9] “talk to the hand” is really funny when it actually applies to the situation =vP </p></blockquote>
<p>Very interesting.</p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: Chino F.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chino F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheers too, Filo, and others. It has been an interesting discussion after all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheers too, Filo, and others. It has been an interesting discussion after all.</p>
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		<title>By: Parallax</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/quezon-for-senator/comment-page-1#comment-111726</link>
		<dc:creator>Parallax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>whoops! the bullet points are missing.
it&#039;s supposed to look something like this:
&lt;blockquote&gt;
key points learned:

[1] (agreeing with &lt;a href=&quot;http://filipinovoices.com/quezon-for-senator/comment-page-1#comment-110077&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;apanfilo&#039;s brief comment&lt;/a&gt;) mlq&#039;s quote was a rhetorical device, that which filipinos have failed to comply with properly, save for the shift from martial rule to democratic government

[2] because we always have this second chance to improve, we take it for granted year after year (which would explain upngrad&#039;s crafty comments)

[3] the unacceptably small improvements in government since 1986 edsa revolution have resulted in voices of dissent similar to chino&#039;s, filo&#039;s, dong&#039;s, and apparently upngrad&#039;s as well

[4] mlq isn&#039;t being blamed here; it&#039;s just that the leadership we have is so far from ideal (i got the weight loss analogy)

[5] degree of improvement does matter a lot, so marginal improvement translates to marginally meaningful changes that benefit the common filipino, minimal translates to minimal, and so on

[6] there may be more people out there who feel the same way as chino about how little has changed for the better (no worries bro, i know the word &quot;nothing&quot; was a figure of speech)

[7] we struggle to call &quot;improvement&quot; the unacceptable things we live with like institutionalized corruption (thanks for the link bong!) and media-driven personality politics because it&#039;s an obvious contradiction

[8] the tendency of pinoys to give up almost immediately and pin the blame on somebody else is virtually irresistible, which highlights a society-wide problem

[9] &quot;talk to the hand&quot; is really funny when it actually applies to the situation  =vP

cheers guys!&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whoops! the bullet points are missing.<br />
it&#8217;s supposed to look something like this:</p>
<blockquote><p>
key points learned:</p>
<p>[1] (agreeing with <a href="http://filipinovoices.com/quezon-for-senator/comment-page-1#comment-110077" rel="nofollow">apanfilo&#8217;s brief comment</a>) mlq&#8217;s quote was a rhetorical device, that which filipinos have failed to comply with properly, save for the shift from martial rule to democratic government</p>
<p>[2] because we always have this second chance to improve, we take it for granted year after year (which would explain upngrad&#8217;s crafty comments)</p>
<p>[3] the unacceptably small improvements in government since 1986 edsa revolution have resulted in voices of dissent similar to chino&#8217;s, filo&#8217;s, dong&#8217;s, and apparently upngrad&#8217;s as well</p>
<p>[4] mlq isn&#8217;t being blamed here; it&#8217;s just that the leadership we have is so far from ideal (i got the weight loss analogy)</p>
<p>[5] degree of improvement does matter a lot, so marginal improvement translates to marginally meaningful changes that benefit the common filipino, minimal translates to minimal, and so on</p>
<p>[6] there may be more people out there who feel the same way as chino about how little has changed for the better (no worries bro, i know the word &#8220;nothing&#8221; was a figure of speech)</p>
<p>[7] we struggle to call &#8220;improvement&#8221; the unacceptable things we live with like institutionalized corruption (thanks for the link bong!) and media-driven personality politics because it&#8217;s an obvious contradiction</p>
<p>[8] the tendency of pinoys to give up almost immediately and pin the blame on somebody else is virtually irresistible, which highlights a society-wide problem</p>
<p>[9] &#8220;talk to the hand&#8221; is really funny when it actually applies to the situation  =vP</p>
<p>cheers guys!</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Parallax</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/quezon-for-senator/comment-page-1#comment-111723</link>
		<dc:creator>Parallax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>key points learned:

(agreeing with &lt;a href=&quot;http://filipinovoices.com/quezon-for-senator/comment-page-1#comment-110077&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;apanfilo&#039;s brief comment&lt;/a&gt;) mlq&#039;s quote was a rhetorical device, that which filipinos have failed to comply with properly, save for the shift from martial rule to democratic government
because we always have this second chance to improve, we take it for granted year after year (which would explain upngrad&#039;s crafty comments)
the unacceptably small improvements in government since 1986 edsa revolution have resulted in voices of dissent similar to chino&#039;s, filo&#039;s, dong&#039;s, and apparently upngrad&#039;s as well
mlq isn&#039;t being blamed here; it&#039;s just that the leadership we have is so far from ideal (i got the weight loss analogy)
degree of improvement does matter a lot, so marginal improvement translates to marginally meaningful changes that benefit the common filipino, minimal translates to minimal, and so on
there may be more people out there who feel the same way as chino about how little has changed for the better (no worries bro, i know the word &quot;nothing&quot; was a figure of speech)
we struggle to call &quot;improvement&quot; the unacceptable things we live with like institutionalized corruption (thanks for the link bong!) and media-driven personality politics because it&#039;s an obvious contradiction
the tendency of pinoys to give up almost immediately and pin the blame on somebody else is virtually irresistible, which highlights a society-wide problem
&quot;talk to the hand&quot; is really funny when it actually applies to the situation  =vP

cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>key points learned:</p>
<p>(agreeing with <a href="http://filipinovoices.com/quezon-for-senator/comment-page-1#comment-110077" rel="nofollow">apanfilo&#8217;s brief comment</a>) mlq&#8217;s quote was a rhetorical device, that which filipinos have failed to comply with properly, save for the shift from martial rule to democratic government<br />
because we always have this second chance to improve, we take it for granted year after year (which would explain upngrad&#8217;s crafty comments)<br />
the unacceptably small improvements in government since 1986 edsa revolution have resulted in voices of dissent similar to chino&#8217;s, filo&#8217;s, dong&#8217;s, and apparently upngrad&#8217;s as well<br />
mlq isn&#8217;t being blamed here; it&#8217;s just that the leadership we have is so far from ideal (i got the weight loss analogy)<br />
degree of improvement does matter a lot, so marginal improvement translates to marginally meaningful changes that benefit the common filipino, minimal translates to minimal, and so on<br />
there may be more people out there who feel the same way as chino about how little has changed for the better (no worries bro, i know the word &#8220;nothing&#8221; was a figure of speech)<br />
we struggle to call &#8220;improvement&#8221; the unacceptable things we live with like institutionalized corruption (thanks for the link bong!) and media-driven personality politics because it&#8217;s an obvious contradiction<br />
the tendency of pinoys to give up almost immediately and pin the blame on somebody else is virtually irresistible, which highlights a society-wide problem<br />
&#8220;talk to the hand&#8221; is really funny when it actually applies to the situation  =vP</p>
<p>cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: justice league</title>
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		<dc:creator>justice league</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like the mod has spoken.

Filo,



&lt;blockquote&gt; …whichever corresponds &lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;b&gt; That&#039;s not a part of your earlier post so it doesn&#039;t affect what was highlighted there. &lt;/b&gt;

But if you want to show if it has an  effect on your &quot;repetition&quot;, do answer this: When improvement is imaginary; “it can always be improved” correspondingly means just as much as what? 

Choose your answer from marginal or minimal or negligible or imaginary
or far off-target.

Then you might want to come back to answer &quot;How can you improve it when that it can be improved is IMAGINARY?&quot;

You want to be quoted, well you got quoted.

And you are likely to see this linked in the future http://filipinovoices.com/quezon-for-senator/comment-page-1#comment-111482


Dong, 

I actually got to read your post before it got deleted.

Anyway, I saw that you stated &quot;ok naman intentions ni quezon sa sinabi niya ... &quot; in http://filipinovoices.com/quezon-for-senator/comment-page-1#comment-111471

&lt;b&gt; Since MLQ&#039;s intentions were ok to you anyway; can you kindly tell everybody why you posted an incomplete version of MLQ&#039;s statement? &lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like the mod has spoken.</p>
<p>Filo,</p>
<blockquote><p> …whichever corresponds </p></blockquote>
<p><b> That&#8217;s not a part of your earlier post so it doesn&#8217;t affect what was highlighted there. </b></p>
<p>But if you want to show if it has an  effect on your &#8220;repetition&#8221;, do answer this: When improvement is imaginary; “it can always be improved” correspondingly means just as much as what? </p>
<p>Choose your answer from marginal or minimal or negligible or imaginary<br />
or far off-target.</p>
<p>Then you might want to come back to answer &#8220;How can you improve it when that it can be improved is IMAGINARY?&#8221;</p>
<p>You want to be quoted, well you got quoted.</p>
<p>And you are likely to see this linked in the future <a href="http://filipinovoices.com/quezon-for-senator/comment-page-1#comment-111482" rel="nofollow">http://filipinovoices.com/quezon-for-senator/comment-page-1#comment-111482</a></p>
<p>Dong, </p>
<p>I actually got to read your post before it got deleted.</p>
<p>Anyway, I saw that you stated &#8220;ok naman intentions ni quezon sa sinabi niya &#8230; &#8221; in <a href="http://filipinovoices.com/quezon-for-senator/comment-page-1#comment-111471" rel="nofollow">http://filipinovoices.com/quezon-for-senator/comment-page-1#comment-111471</a></p>
<p><b> Since MLQ&#8217;s intentions were ok to you anyway; can you kindly tell everybody why you posted an incomplete version of MLQ&#8217;s statement? </b></p>
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		<title>By: Filo</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/quezon-for-senator/comment-page-1#comment-111563</link>
		<dc:creator>Filo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;...whichever corresponds&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/b&gt;
What was that, jl?

(sound of crickets)

Miss something again?

Keep &#039;em coming. Haha

---------

dong,

He&#039;ll be talking to the hand real soon, don&#039;t you worry.

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Chino F.,

No need to further expound on what you were trying to say. Your dissatisfaction with the magnitude of improvement in governance is understandable and corresponds to what I described earlier. Somebody we both know was absent when figure of speech was taken up in school. Cheers man!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><br />
<blockquote>&#8230;whichever corresponds</p></blockquote>
<p></b><br />
What was that, jl?</p>
<p>(sound of crickets)</p>
<p>Miss something again?</p>
<p>Keep &#8216;em coming. Haha</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>dong,</p>
<p>He&#8217;ll be talking to the hand real soon, don&#8217;t you worry.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>Chino F.,</p>
<p>No need to further expound on what you were trying to say. Your dissatisfaction with the magnitude of improvement in governance is understandable and corresponds to what I described earlier. Somebody we both know was absent when figure of speech was taken up in school. Cheers man!</p>
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		<title>By: justice league</title>
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		<dc:creator>justice league</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Filo,

&lt;blockquote&gt; That you don’t get the word sarcasm and how the word “hopeful” comes into play is a pity. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Maybe you should reserve that pity for yourself.

Dong,

&lt;blockquote&gt; e ako getz ko mga pahayag nyo. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

That should not surprise anyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Filo,</p>
<blockquote><p> That you don’t get the word sarcasm and how the word “hopeful” comes into play is a pity. </p></blockquote>
<p>Maybe you should reserve that pity for yourself.</p>
<p>Dong,</p>
<blockquote><p> e ako getz ko mga pahayag nyo. </p></blockquote>
<p>That should not surprise anyone.</p>
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