The feuding Pangandamans and Dela Pazes are still on Page One.
The accused father and son golfing buddies were on nationwide radio and TV today to profess their innocence and claiming self defense with the ‘honorable’ 27-year-old mayor of a little known town in Lanao accusing a junior golfer 13 years his junior of having wielded an angry fist first as the young man’s 56-year-ild father peppered him with invectives and the man’s daughter poking him with an umbrella.
Not content, one of the Dela Pazes also allegedly whipped Nasser Pangandaman Jr with steel golf club that fractured his left hand’s little finger.
Well ahead of the Pangandamans’ belated ‘story of grief’ the Dela Pazes had come out with their version of how Mr. Delfin Dela Paz and his son were mauled last Friday in Antipolo’s Valley Golf and Country Club.
So in a society where hunger is deepening and corruption is in the upper reaches of government we are now treated to a show of the comportment of those of power and pelf when quarreling over golf etiquette.
The courts will eventually decide who’s telling the truth in this damnable Yuletide episode.
How about the rest of society which has been needlessly scandalized?
What of the sitting president and how a member of her official family has managed to further erode whatever is left of presumed public esteem of her administration?
Popularity: 5% [?]
As an officer from National Government Agency assigned in the different municipalities of Mindanao I am very much familiar of how mayors (muslims and christians) with bodyguards beat helpless citizens with impunity.
The case of Pangandamans are no different. Most young Mayors in the South think and act as if they owned their towns. The problem of these little brain barbarians they still feel very important even if they get out of their holes. De la Paz might have pissed the stupid mayor with his “mura and kayabangan” and the two big egos clashed. The stupid Mayor simply felt very embarassed infront of his bodyguards and all to lost argument. Hindi minumura ang Mayor sa Mindanao. PRIDE and SELF-IMPORTANCE are their life. Poke it with the end of the stick and these little barbarians go nuts.
DAR Secretary Pangandaman is also a brainless god in their place and he could not allow ordinary people lashed them with vindictives. I know he was very happy watching the fracas infront of him. For him whatever nasty words hurled at his son was an affront to him and to his family. Had he been young he could have handled it himself.
From PinoyGolfer.com Forum
A post from from username aberosal
member since April 2007
Posted: Jan 2 2008, 10:57pm
Footbolero, rge and I were present when the head of the fact finding committee was describing the testimonies of all parties – including that of dela paz. We were not provided with the official written findings – we were simply told some facts that were pertinent to the incident.
my memory isn’t as good as rge but the “discussion” points were as follows:
1) Based on witnesses’ accounts, Dela paz clearly started the fight. In his own words – “hinampas ko yung payong.” Others used words by Pagdamanan, caddies, were “poked” “tusok” etc. Dela paz used the word “hinampas” – and its on tape.
2) On the 6th tee, during the “fight” Bino swung his driver at the mayor. There was medical evidence provided to the committee of a fracture to his hand. If a 5′6, 140lbs person swung a driver at me, I am pretty sure I will not be asking his age before I strike back (assuming I survive of course) – and strike back I will with intent to make sure he doesn’t swing that driver again.
3) Dela Paz didn’t give Valley employees and security staff a chance to stop the incident from escalating. Per witness accounts, the dela paz family kept provoking and making threats na “gaganti sila”.
Jovi, if you want to get the whole story – come to valley golf club and make your own investigation and interview the witnesses. RGE is making kuwento and is not a member of the fact finding committee. Majority of the members/employees at Valley know what happened and very few if any are on the dela paz camp.
You are basing your facts too much on a blog and not on actual witness accounts.
erratum:
forum post January 2 2009, 10:54pm
Ding,
I think its only a matter of time before the result of the investigation is officially revealed.
Though like I stated somewhere in this blog; there seems to be a question whether the 8 year old son of Hussein was indeed registered.
walang sinabi yang DAR Secretary Pangandaman nayanmatatpang lang kasi dami bodyguard mga walang balls
I agree with you riclas…
also…
Ampatuan clan / Paglas clan in Mindanao
From : MANILA TIMES
3-man panel to probe
Ampatuan’s murder case
DAVAO CITY: The Department of Justice created a three-man investigating panel in Cagayan de Oro City to handle the reinvestigation of the murder case filed against Mohammad Bahnarin Ampatuan, grandson of Maguindanao Gov. Andal Ampatuan.
Justice Secretary Raul M. Gonzalez ordered Jaime Umpa, regional state prosecution officer, to head the panel with state prosecutors Corazon Llanderal and Marlene Barola–Uy as members.
Gonzalez’s order was in compliance with a court order handed down by Judge Emmanuel Carpio of Branch 16 of Davao City Regional Trial Court directing the department to reinvestigate the case after the city Prosecutor’s Office declined to do so.
City Prosecutor Raul Bendigo manifested that the reinvestigation will be better if handled by other prosecution office since his office had ruled and they will stand by their findings.
He said the Ampatuan case should be changed from homicide to murder.
Bendigo insisted there was treachery in the killing of Carlo Asistido and that it would be better if the reinvestigation will be handled by other government prosecution office or by the Department of Justice which had not yet touched the case.
Ampatuan’s lawyers moved for the reinvestigation of the case and asked for the downgrading the offense charged after Ampatuan was granted bail by Judge Virginia Europa of Branch 11 of the Davao City RTC although the offense is nonbailable.
Europa heard Ampatuan’s petition to bail since Presiding Judge Wenceslao Ibabao of Davao City RTC Branch 33, who acquired jurisdiction over the case, was on leave.
In granting bail, Europa ruled there’s no sufficient evidence to deprive the accused of his right to bail.
Ampatuan, son of Mamasapano Mayor Datu Tato Ampatuan, is standing trial for the death of Asistido who was shot dead on July 28, 2002, during a predawn brawl at The Venue on Quirino
SILA SILA NG UUBUSAN NG LAHI…
See what money can do…See the role of Justice Secretary Gonzalez…dapat kay Gonzales magretire na kasi marami siyang PALPAK na decisions…Our justice system is for the rich..
Mr PANGANDAMAN & Son…makonsensya nga kayo! Dapat sa inyo bitay! child abuse!!!
ahekz… kung kau kea ang inunahan na hampasin ng payong di kau gaganti?? kabaklaan na un… it is not the position it is the dignity…
for example isang snake hnd ka inaano tpos hinampas mo ano gagawin ng ahas?? xempre gaganti kac hinampas mo?
tama lng un kac xa naman nanguna eh kung hndi nya hinampas si pangandaman eh sana wla sanang nangyaring gulo ang mahirap kac sa mayayaman eh sobra kung maka asta porke mayaman akala lahat ng tao kea kea lng nila atleast that arrogant de la paz encountered a perfect opponent that teach him a lesson. and whats that lesson??
“KUNG ANO ANG GINAWA MO SA KAPWA MO EH BABALIK SAU TIMES TWO”
hnd natin masisisi c pangandaman kac ikaw ba naman hampasin ng payong ng wlang ginagawa at pinag sisigawan at pinag mumura sa harap ng ibang tao???
akala nya kac pOrke mayaman xA eh kea nya na gnonin lhat ng tao..
“wag mong gawin sa kapwa mo ang ayaw mong gawin sau”
“at lahat ng tao pantay pantay”
di pOrke mayaman ka eh pde mo na sigawan at murahin ang kung sino sino
at hampasin itO..
“guyz kung sainyo kea ginawa ni de la paz un? ung sigawan ka tpos murahin ka sa harap ng ibang tao? tpos di pa nakuntento at hampasin ka pa ng wlang tamang dahilan?”
ano xa LORD???
atleast now naturuan xa ng leksyon
na hnd lahat kea daanin sa kapangyarihan ng “pEra”
Again
“WALANG MANANAKIT KUNG WLANAG NANAKIT”
” KARMA STRIKES TWO TIMES ”
ang aga ng kArma ky dE la pAz kakahmpas lng nya ng payong at kakasigaw at kakamura sa ibang tao ng WLANG GINAGAWA sakanya eh ayon nakaharap tuloy xa ng tAong di natatakot sakanya..
“kea kaung mga mayayaman wag kau umasta ng akala mo LORD
dahil hnd pOrket mayaman kau eh kea nyo na apiapihin ang ibang tao”
ahekz… kung kau kea ang inunahan na hampasin ng payong di kau gaganti?? kabaklaan na un… it is not the position it is the dignity…
for example isang snake hnd ka inaano tpos hinampas mo ano gagawin ng ahas?? xempre gaganti kac hinampas mo?
tama lng un kac xa naman nanguna eh kung hndi nya hinampas si pangandaman eh sana wla sanang nangyaring gulo ang mahirap kac sa mayayaman eh sobra kung maka asta porke mayaman akala lahat ng tao kea kea lng nila atleast that arrogant de la paz encountered a perfect opponent that teach him a lesson. and whats that lesson??
“KUNG ANO ANG GINAWA MO SA KAPWA MO EH BABALIK SAU TIMES TWO”
hnd natin masisisi c pangandaman kac ikaw ba naman hampasin ng payong ng wlang ginagawa at pinag sisigawan at pinag mumura sa harap ng ibang tao???
akala nya kac pOrke mayaman xA eh kea nya na gnonin lhat ng tao..
“wag mong gawin sa kapwa mo ang ayaw mong gawin sau”
“at lahat ng tao pantay pantay”
di pOrke mayaman ka eh pde mo na sigawan at murahin ang kung sino sino
at hampasin itO..
“guyz kung sainyo kea ginawa ni de la paz un? ung sigawan ka tpos murahin ka sa harap ng ibang tao? tpos di pa nakuntento at hampasin ka pa ng wlang tamang dahilan?”
ano xa LORD???
atleast now naturuan xa ng leksyon
na hnd lahat kea daanin sa kapangyarihan ng “pEra”
Again
“WALANG MANANAKIT KUNG WLANAG NANAKIT”
” KARMA STRIKES TWO TIMES ”
ang aga ng kArma ky dE la pAz kakahmpas lng nya ng payong at kakasigaw at kakamura sa ibang tao ng WLANG GINAGAWA sakanya eh ayon nakaharap tuloy xa ng tAong di natatakot sakanya..
“kea kaung mga mayayaman wag kau umasta ng akala mo LORD
dahil hnd pOrket mayaman kau eh kea nyo na apiapihin ang ibang tao”
………..
hahaha, natahimik yata bigla ang mga apologists ni de la paz? parang wala na yatang dumedepensa at nagsasabing tama si santa bambee, santo bino, at senor de la paz!
LEGAL BEDROCK
THE RULE of law can be defined as a system in which the laws are public knowledge, are clear in meaning, and apply equally to everyone. They enshrine and uphold the political and civil liberties that have gained status as universal human rights over the last half-century. . . . Perhaps most important, the government is embedded in a comprehensive legal framework, its officials accept that the law will be applied to their own conduct, and the government seeks to be law-abiding.
Facts: In the Philippines, what’s happening is exactly the opposite. this blog cannot support the facts
Do not believe sa pulis na pogi. His side of story is a MYTH and it does not also support the facts
Rule-of-law reform will succeed only if it gets at the fundamental problem of leaders who refuse to be ruled by the law. Respect for the law will not easily take root in systems rife with corruption and cynicism, since entrenched elites cede their traditional impunity and vested interests only under great pressure.
The Pangandamans cannot serve right for this country. they can only serve terror and intimidation for the people. That’s all they can do
pulis na pogi,
good job… pwede ka na sa epaac hahahaha.
isang correction lang, si manolo at leytenian eh magkaibang tao.
si manolo magaling na writer..si leytenian nagmamagaling na blogger. hehehehe
What characterizes Philippines? It is a country with laws, but our country do not enforce them since the country acts in keeping with the wishes of the powerful. The powerful can be the neighborhood bully or the public officials. But in both cases, the situation is the violent party wins.
The pangandamans are violent.
facts on:
amen atorni.
lurker:
my bad. i really thought that they were one until i clicked on the name of leytenia. at least i am correct in assuming that they are of the same gender! hahahahaha
nagseach ako ng epaac kasi di ko alam yun. dami meaning pero it pinakagusto ko: EPAAC-Early Prevention of Asthma in the Atopic Child! hahahaha
facts on: and the de la pazes are meek! hahaha
To Dela Paz family, don’t accept their apologies !!!
When the rule of law is broken, there is no possibility to implement human rights standards.
When the word of the king alone ( hindi niyo ako kilala) is law there is also no possibility of protecting human rights.
To implement the rule of law, education for the people to voice out their frustration is crucial for democracy. It is also appropriate for the pangandamans to sacrifice for their country and resign from their own cruelty as requested by many.
When rule of law is abused by our own representatives, our country will not produce the desired results for economic growth.
No one’s above the LAW…but only in the PHILIPPINES…Politicians are above the LAW…Here in the US…The Filipino community were horrified with PANGANDAMAN. They used their powers and influence as a POLITICIANS…It’s very embarrassing what they did to the 14 year old boy. Here in the US…Rich or poor, Politicians or civilians…NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW. There’s one year more and election is coming…I hope Filipinos will wake up!
pulis na pogi.
If you are a real policeman…I’m sure you are CORRUPTt!
rosie,
read before you post. comments like that make you look extremely stupid.
if you are a real US citizen already…I’m sure you are a stupid war freak!
there’s no amount of “other side story” that will change the perception of the people that this country is ruled by incompetent politicians.
The Pangandamans are in deep trouble. Karma is the beginning of no end.
the bigger trouble:
“The real issue here is the political will of this government to implement genuine agrarian reform. We dare Secretary Pangandaman, our brother from Mindanao, to put an end to this lingering arduous issue, and give us hope for a better future for our children,”
pulis na pogi..
What is the connection of a being a US citizen…The way you comment..you are the one who is a stupid war freak policeman…
You are an annoying/ one who is cruel, rude, or small-minded individual-JERK!
glenford,
it is bad manners to butt-in in someone else’s conversation. look at the post of rosie i am replying to and get the context, ok?
JERK!
In Cagayan, Pangandaman is public enemy number one.
Both father and son displayed bad behavior.
SA MGA TAONG GUSTONG MAGPATIWAKAL:
MAGPAKAMATAY KYO BY KILLING THESE TYPE OF PEOPLE!
MAGKAKAROON PA NG KAHULUGAN PAGPAPAKAMATAY NYO!
Pangandaman sa Lanao sila corrupt… I don’t know why he became DAR Secretary…Pangandaman owns a vast piece of land…They are untouchables in Lanao.
.Big time ang mga taong ito..Mansion ang bahay…Luxury cars at properties…pero daming mahihirap akong kababayan hindi natutulungan…Go to Lanao and see what I mean…
D. Gagelonia, your resume states you are a journalist. I am one myself. Do you still remember what journalists believe in? Facts, of course! We need to answer the who, what, where, when and hows before we have the temerity to report things.
I just cannot understand how you manage to tie in the Valley Golf case to so-called corruption in the GMA administration. Quite a long stretch of imagination on your part?
Then you mention of excesses of GMA and her family. Where do you base this? Gossip and rumours? These definitely will be your sources, since there has been no court decisions, or even court cases filed against the first family, which should be the basis of your belief as a journalist.
Sad to say, you have fallen into the category of those who believe what propagandists want us to believe.
I suggest you stick to facts, journalist.
journalists-politicians-police-military-militante-npa-bishops-priests…
parepareho kayong mga hipocrito…nababayaran…at nakakagulo sa bansang pilipinas
Sa lahat ng mga experts sa pag-reklamo:
Why don’t you just be the change you want to see in the world? That way we’ll get somewhere.
At sa lahat ng mga action-oriented at hindi nagre-reklamo:
just continue.
Sa lahat ng hindi bloggers/commenters na action-oriented, good for you! Hindi nyo nababasa ang mga comments ng mga expert reklamador na wala nang ginawa kung hindi mag-reklamo at wala nang nakitang positive.
After hitting “submit comment” I may regret doing so. My comment probably has little value in the grand scheme of things. Pero ano ba naman itong mga reklamador dito, parang ginagawa nang career ang pagreklamo at wala nang nakitang mabuti. If it’s not complaining, it’s gloating. At paulit-ulit pa.
I’ll tell you this — there are people in journalism, politics, law enforcement and the clergy who are faithful to the principles of their profession (vocation as regards the clergy). Nababayaran? You underestimate people, Mr. Juwan_D. There are those who know that the rewards of being in such professions and of responding to the call of the vocation come in other forms, rewards that are other-centered and are not for personal gain.
Some people have integrity, and that’s something to be edified by. Unless you prefer to wallow in endless and baseless complaining.
there was once a monkey who wanted to play with the chickens in a chicken house.
the problem is, they have a pecking order. they have what they call as ‘rules of the game.’
a monkey that he was..he refused to ‘toe the line’. he said to himself..” di nyo ba ako kilala? ungguy ako!”
and so it came to pass that a chicken pecked on the monkey for not following the rules. the monkey responded with full force using his dogs to intimidate the chicken.
moral of the story. monkeys and chickens don’t mix..haha!
Juwan_D,
At ikaw pang gulo dito sa FV..hahahaha
kape tayo sa starbucks? :)
ASUSH! SA MGA WALANG MAWAGA AT PURO TIRADA NAG WALANG BASEHAN KATULAD NIYO AY MAGA LANGAW NA NAKAAMOY NA NAMAN NANG PAGPIPEYSTAHAN. ANG KASONG PANGADAMAN AT DELA PAZ ANG NORMAL LANG.. AT SA MGA BUMABATIKOS SA MGA MARANAO, WHY DONT YOU LOOK AROUND YOU, YOU GUYS POPULATED THE ENTIRE PHILIPPINES AND PHILIPPINES IS TOUTED AS THE MOST CORRUPT IN THE WORLD THEN WHOS TO BLAME, KAYO!! NOT THEM.. THE OTHER BLOGG SAYS, BASTARD MUST PAY.. HELLIER.. THE WORD BASTARD DOESNT EVEN IN THEM.. ITS IN YOU GUYS.. HOWEVER, ALIN KAYA ANG MAS MASAKIT.. ANG TAWAGIN BASTARD NA HINDI NAMAN TOTOO OR TAWAGING BABOY… OR DOG EARTER KAYA.. NA MAY KATOTOHANAN.. WHICHEVER..
To MARIA
I doubt naakan ka lang siguro ng ilan kaya ganun ka na lang kung magsalita, kinda sourgraping ba… kasi ayaw nila sa mga katulong..ehehe
nice one raj,
i think you need to make the story straight..it was the chicken who ask the strayed monkey…kilala mo ba ako? member ka ba ng chickenshit?
moral of the story…chicken don’t antagonized monkeys.
kape tayo sa starbucks :)
Para ke KILL EM ALL
Alam mas makakatulong ka kung kaw mismo ang magpatiwakal.. kasi kabawasan ng KATULAD mo. Or, bakit hindi mo planohin at isama sayong pagpapatiwakal ang tunay na MGA tuso ng ating bayan.. kilala mo sila.. KILL EM ALL
ke IBRAHIM kuno..
e ano naman kung corrupt ang mga pangadaman… kaw bay natutulog at tila ngayun mo alam na ang mga politico ay corrupt sa pilipinas.. wata mindset
Lurker_Lang
Ako ang panggulo sa mga nanggugulo sa bansa…
ayoko sa starbucks…mahal dun…bwhihihihi
@lurker_lang; 6:26 p.m.
may batas kase para sa mga monkey na dapay masunod. ito yun tinatawag nila na “code of conduct and ethical standards for monkeys in government”…administrative liability lang naman ito.. siguro suspension pati removal from office lang.
aside from the criminal and civil aspect of physical injuries inflicted.
chicken lang..hehe!
After reading all the comments, really everybody has the right for its opinion and express. Pero wag namang below the belt at excessive to the extent na aba akala mo ngayun lang nakabasa or nakarinig ng bugbogan. OA masyado. Like yong Mr. Randy ng taiwan. He cant work daw at gustong na niyang pumatay, asush! Aush, ka OA oi! Tumutok ka sa TV Patrol or 24 ORAS na matapos na ang buhay mong sobra OA, eheh. Or baka naman may problema ka jan sa taiwan, is it the recession? Pag pinalayas ka jan ng alang sabisabi ng employer mo at hambalusin ka ng payong dahil sa kakulitan mo dahil gusto mong manatili, what are u gonna do Mr. Randy? Ngingiti, ayaw ni karyl ng ganyan, eheheh
was so amazed reading all the blogs yet hoping na hindi ito mauwi sa muslim christian debate or else, walang katapusang debate ang mangyayari. Peace to all Filipinos in the world!!! Kudos sa both parties – the pangadaman at dela paz. Nag file na sila ng kaso against each one at si atty furton pa ang kinuha ng matandang dela paz. well, matira ang matibay. Labanan ito ng mayabang vs mayabang. malinenyo vs promdi..
speaking of muslim christian.. one says na lahat daw ng bansang may muslim – magulo. Hhhmm.. well, in what sense at saan? is he talking of iraq? Palestine israel dispute? ilan ba ang bansang members ng Organization of Islamic Communities? Please paki research so you will get the answer.. and made you realize na you’re actually luck of common knowledge..
at pakiresearch na rin pala ang PUNOTDULO ng mga gulo na yan..
Sa iraq — ariin ba ang sarili mong bayan at tambakan ng kasundaluhan kundi di ka pa lumaban iwan ko na lang..
Sa Palestine – Esrail — ariin at eesquat ba naman sarili mong lupain kundi ka pa lumaban iwan ko na lang..
Mindanao — ariin ba naman ng mayayamang politico ang mga ninunong kalupaan kundi ka pa lumaban iwan ko sayo…
at sabi pa don, sila sila daw nagpapatayan.. di totoo yun. kung meron rare lang. byside, saan kayang bayan ang walang patayan.. wow ah, sa kanila! well, sa inyo na ang most coveted award – THE NOBEL PRIZE..
THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STORY
Their side has been heard over and over on television, radio and print. The average person who would see, hear and read about their story would indeed feel for them completely, and have nothing but anger and hatred for the other party. I’ve read her blog from her BlogSpot, and they sure sounded like the aggravated party on her blog.
I am posting the incident that happened at the south course of Valley Golf and Country Club that fateful day of December 26, 2008 between the families of Pangandaman and dela Paz. But this is not Delfin’s and his children’s side; I am retelling the details of the incident here on behalf of the Pangandamans.
On December 26, 2008, Friday, at around eleven in the morning, the group of Secretary Nasser Pangandaman registered at the Valley Golf Country Club to play golf. Since there were eight of them playing, they divided into two flights, with the Secretary and his companions on the first flight, and Hussein, Nasser JR and two others on the second. In golf terms, a flight is a division of players within a golf tournament or game. Angelo Pangandaman, Hussein’s eight year old son tagged along with the second flight (Nasser Jr’s), since no one would be able to watch him at the clubhouse.
Nasser Jr and his friend, Farah Locsin arrived late at the golf course and followed their flightmates at Hole No. 4 of the South Course of Valley. It was a convoy of two golf carts, one of which was Nasser Jr’s and the second was the golf marshal’s who was escorting them and the caddies. Here, Bambee narrated in her blog: “My brother and I were playing golf at the South Course of Valley. We were on the 3rd hole, and we see two golf carts going past us, overtaking our flight, and setting up to tee off on the next hole. My dad goes up to them and asks them why they would do that, why they would overtake us without even asking for our permission.” Mr. Delfin dela Paz reacted by protesting at what seemed to be an overtaking of flight, in which Nasser Jr explained to the elder dela Paz that they did not overtook their flight but simply tried to catch up with their flightmates at Hole No. 4. He further explained that they, like the dela Paz’s had earlier lined up to play and were already registered at the flight before theirs. Thinking that things had been cleared up, Mr. dela Paz said, “Okay, kortesiya lang” (”Okay, just seeking courtesy“) .
When the 2nd flight of Nasser Jr. already played hole no. 4 which is a par 3, and Nasser Jr. was still outside of the green trying to pitch his ball into the green, the flight of dela Paz hit their shots into the green which almost hit Hussein without shouting “Fore!”. In golf terms, “fore” is a word of warning yelled out by a player who has hit an errant shot. If your shot is in danger of hitting or landing very close to another player or group of players on the course (for instance, if you slice a ball into an adjoining fairway), you should yell “fore!” to warn players to watch out. Surprised, though sensing trouble which they deemed to choose to avoid, they allowed the other dela Paz player to hit his shot so they can peacefully resume and concentrate on their playing. At this point, the caddy of Nasser Jr also took the 8 year-old Angelo to stay behind the golf cart to avoid being hit by golf balls coming from the dela Paz players.
On Hole No. 5, after the 2nd Pangandaman flight hit their drives into the fairway and before they could hit their second shots, the dela Paz players again hit their drives without warning the Pangandamans. Puzzed and surprised, they asked among themselves why the flight behind them were doing this to them as they could be hit by their (dela Paz’s) golf balls. When Nasser Jr’s flight reached the green of Hole No. 5 and after holing out, they joined the 1st flight of Sec. Pangandaman and took their break at the teehouse. During their break, the marshal approached Nasser Jr, stating that the dela Paz’s were complaining that there were five of them in their group and why they overtook the dela Paz flight. Nasser Jr. reiterated to the marshal what he had already explained to the elder del Paz, to which his knowledge the former had already accepted his explanation. Unconvinced with what the marshal had relayed that there were only four and not five in their flight and that they did not overtake as they just went back to the clubhouse and later join their flight, the elder dela Paz approached Nasser Jr, obviously agitated at this time and pointed a finger at him and accusing him that there were two carts in their flight and that they (Nasser Jr) overtook them. This confused the younger Pangandaman, as he had already explained back at Hole No. 4 that they did not do so. He asked in a most respectful manner that he thought that they already had an understanding. Mr. dela Paz at the top of his voice accused him that Nasser Jr was wrong and began shouting profane words at the younger Pangandaman, saying, “P***** i** ka! Member ka ba dito, ha? Hindi mo ba ako kilala?” (”S.O.B! Are you even a member here? Don’t you know who I am?!”) In a calm voice and without revealing that he is the Mayor of Masiu, Lanao del Sur, Nasser Jr respectfully asked Mr. dela Paz why he was raising his voice at him when they were not arguing. The elder dela Paz reacted “Ikaw ang naghahanap ng away!”(”You’re the one looking for a fight!”), while pulling his umbrella and thrusted the pointed part and hit the belly of Nasser Jr, who backed up. This incident happened in front of the marshal who tried to interevene, but Mr. Delfin dela Paz pressed on, thus prompting Nasser Jr’s older brother Hussein, to come to his brother’s defense. Mr. dela Paz hit Hussein on the forehead and the two engaged in a fist fight.
Meanwhile, Nasser Jr., tried to prevent the two younger dela Paz from joining the fight but they got away from him and went in between their father and Hussein. The dela Paz siblings were able to hold Hussein preventing him to reach the elder dela Paz as if trying to pacify the two. Yet, Bino Lorenzo dela Paz kept punching Hussein in the face and Marie Dhel dela Paz from behind kept on scratching his face. At one point Mr. Delfin dela Paz even got a golf club driver and tried to hit Husseinbut Mr. Rene Maglanque was able to pry the club away from him. When Hussein turned his back on the elder dela Paz, Bino then got a golf club and tried to attack Hussein, but Nasser Jr was able to block Bino with his left arm, but hit his left hand. Sec. Pangandaman, Rene Maglanque, and another golfer from a different flight pacified everybody and asked the dela Paz’s to just leave them to prevent further trouble. Mr. Delfin dela Paz called someone in his cellphone and gave orders to come to the clubhouse because they’ve just had a fight with someone.
The dela Paz’s then left the golf course. Losing interest in the game as it was spoiled by the fight, both Sec. Pangandaman’s and Nasser Jr’s flights also returned to the clubhouse after about ten minutes. Hussein, attaining a bump on the forehead due to a punch by Mr. Delfin dela Paz and scratches on the face and neck, hurried to the men’s locker room to relieve himself and wash his wounds from the scuffle. But Mr. Delfin dela Paz blocked his path to the locker room and told him in a threatening voice that it wasn’t over between them and that he’ll take revenge. Hussein, obviously still angry from the brawl that ensued at the golf course asked why they still hadn’t left yet, when Bino again, pleaded not to hurt his fifty-six year old father, and him who’s fourteen, but with fists ready to punch. The Secretary’s elder son was engaged in another scuffle with the father and son followed by Marie Dhel, who came from behind Hussein, scratching him on his right cheek, neck, ear, while pulling and tearing his shirt.
The security and other golfers in the clubhouse who witnessed the encounter separated them, and as soon as that happened, Mr. dela Paz again shouted invectives at Hussein. Around this time, a loud commotion was heard by the entrance; it was Mrs. dela Paz and her two sons. The sons had with them baseball bats, and Mrs. dela Paz, in a house dress (duster), had with her a bladed weapon, all three looking as if ready to assault. The other golfers and security held them off so as to completely stop the fight. At this point, Sec. Pangandaman told his sons to leave already and the dela Paz’s to stop and leave, so that no more untoward incident would happen. The Pangandaman’s party had to leave through the parking exit because the dela Paz family was waiting for them at the clubhouse lobby.
I’m pretty sure that most, if not everyone, has already read the blog that Bambee dela Paz posted on her blog page. And I’m pretty sure that most, if not everyone totally sympathizes with the dela Paz family regarding the mauling incident allegedly initiated by the Pangandamans. But may I ask, before those hurtful comments were hurled at the DAR Secretary, the mayor of Masiu, Lanao del Sur, the rest of their family, and Muslims as a whole, did the people even bother for just a second to think what the other side had to say? Did they even bother getting information from the Pangandaman’s camp after reading Bambee dela Paz’s blog? I BET THEY DID NOT.
I just have a couple of more questions. If Mr. dela Paz and his children have been playing golf for such a long time now, then they should know their golf etiquette by heart now. If they are professional players, then why did they hit their drives WITHOUT giving any warning to the flight before them? Isn’t it a given to golfers to shout “Fore!” to players who may be potentially hit by the ball since they are in the way of it? Could they have forgotten to warn them TWICE?
Weren’t they supposed to NOT hit their drives unless the golfers before them are OUT OF THE GREEN?
And since it was a holiday, why did the dela Paz flight pushed to play on the golf course when A FLIGHT OF TWO IS PROHIBITED TO PLAY ON THE COURSE DURING HOLIDAYS as per club regulations? Does that mean they are exempted from the rules and regulations of Valley Golf and Country Club?
How can they claim that their flight was overtaken by Nasser Jr’s when they had registered to play on a flight before the dela Paz’s? Do you think the marshal will even escort Nasser and his friend to the golf course if that was really the case?
Why would Nasser Jr complain to the marshal about the dela Paz’s alleged slow playing as stated on reports when his flight is BEFORE theirs?
Why did Bambee leave out the part of what happened at Holes 4 and 5 and just continued her blog on the teehouse? Could she have forgotten to put in her blog that she was also part of the brawl on the course and hurt the older Pangandaman son? Your nails must be pretty long, Ms Bambee, those cuts dug in deep into Hussein’s skin.
Would Bambee even bother blogging about the incident that took place in Valley Golf had they had a tip-off with some other Christian elitist and not Muslim politicians like the Pangandamans? Would the media and the public pick up the story and show the same volume of sympathy for the dela Paz family if the other party concerned were just average, private Non-Muslim citizens?
Would the public still claim Mr. Delfin dela Paz and his children to be brave and courageous people if they had known that they already have a record of run-ins with other patrons of Valley Golf?
Do you seriously think that a person who works as a public official would actually put his reputation on the line over a game of golf regardless of faith or be for or against the administration?
Why are your statements inconsistent, Mr. dela Paz? Reports from different sources seem to vary. From what I know, a person who has had a traumatic experience has vivid recollections of the events that took place.
Like they said, it all started from a small misunderstanding. Had Mr. dela Paz accepted the explanation given to him by Nasser Jr. back at the course then none of this would have happened. This isn’t a case between an underdog and the powerful and mighty. This is a case between right and wrong. The dela Paz family claim that a lot of people have witnessed what took place. That’s what the Pangandaman family think too. Let those people speak up then! But to make quick judgments and accusations against the Pangandmans, politicians, and even Muslims in general, without enough knowledge and proper basis regarding both sides of the issue is just ridiculous and shows ignorance on your part. I am, just like everyone, am praying for this to be resolved.
The truth WILL prevail. Justice WILL be served.
—if this post doesn’t clear a little cloud on your head or your heart, then I doubt if there would still be PEACE between us (Christians and Muslims.) Coz clearly, nothing we say ever gets heard. . . if ever heard, you guys often take it wrongly. Try to take a shot at listening to us, we’re not evil pinheads, we’re Muslims… human beings. We’re not always as bad as the media projects us to be.
All golfers know that in the fairway, those who are really good players usually get irritated by slower players ahead. I’m sure, the Pangandamans play bad while the delapazes must be very good players. Perhaps if only the old man dela Paz kept his cool, they could have finished the game without a scratch. But sometimes the irritation is too much to handle.
[quote]The physical injury victims are Mr. Delfin dela Paz Sr. and his son Bino Lorenzo dela Paz, 14 yrs. old.
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upon reaching the incident scene he saw Mr. Delfin Dela Paz Sr. was bloodied his face and his 14 yrs old son (Bino Lorenzo Dela Paz) was bloodied also his left side ears and many personal bodyguards of Mayor Pangandaman wearing civilian clothes armed with high powered guns.[/quote]
QUESTION:
Legal and proper ba yung pagdala ng ‘hi-powered’ guns?
Di ba dapat naka-deposit ito sa ‘security office’ ng establishment?
Ever wonder why Bambee’s blog URL LINK is written as such?
http://vicissitude-decidido.blogspot.com/2008/12/world-is-fucked-up.html
Because the ORIGINAL POST IS ENTITLED
“THE WORLD IS FUCKED UP”
Eye catching, really. But why is it entitled “THE WORLD HAS GONE CRAZY” now?
Did you know that there’s an EARLIER VERSION of the blog? Tsk tsk tsk. Here’s the post from bilocano of PinoyGolfer.com
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Username: bilocano
Date Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:07 pm
Did you know there was an earlier version of Bambee’s blog? That version follows below, red highlights mine (I lifted it from the email but skipped the headers which show I received it as part of the 5th group to whom that email was forwarded):
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>
>At around 1:30 PM today, at Valley Golf and Country Club, Antipolo
>City, Mayor Nasser Pangandaman, Jr., Mayor of Masiu City, Lanao del
>Sur, his father, Secretary Nasser Pangandaman of the Department of
>Agrarian Reform, and company, beat my defenseless 56-year-old dad and
>my 14-year-old brother to a pulp because of some stupid
>misunderstanding on the golf course.
>
>This is a golf course. I have been a golfer all my life, and I have
>never seen anything like this. NOTHING. This is hard to comprehend.
>And it happened to my own father and my own brother too. Right in
>front of my eyes.
>
>My brother and I were playing golf at the South Course of Valley. We
>were on the 3rd hole, and we see two golf carts going past us,
>overtaking our flight, and setting up to tee off on the next hole. My
>dad goes up to them and asks them why they would do that, why they
>would overtake us without even asking for our permission. Golf
>etiquette 101. One of the guys says that they’re with the flight in
>front of us. (So what? That doesn’t give them the right to just pass
>us WITHOUT asking.) So, we go to the 5th hole. The flight behind us
>catches up with us, and asks us what caused the hold up. We said that
>this flight just slipped in front of our flight. So we complained to
>the marshall. We play the 5th hole and walk towards the next hole,
>where there is a teehouse, and both the flights in front of us were
>there, talking with the marshall. The mayor of Masiu City, Lanao del
>Sur talks with my dad. Things get heated up. Voices were raised. But
>never, in my
>wildest dreams, did I ever imagine that someone would pull out a
>punch. But I guess [color=darkred]the world IS fucked up, [/color]and the mayor is too, so he
>attacks my father. His flightmates, maybe 2 or 3 of them, rush to his
>aid and beat up my father. My 56-year-old father. My younger brother
>and I could not just watch. We rushed to break the fight. My younger
>brother pleads to the mayor to please stop it. To not hurt my dad. To
>just[color=darkred] end this bullshit[/color]. His words still ring through my head…”Sorry
>na po, sorry na po…tama na…tama na po…” With his hands in front
>of his chest in a praying position. PLEADING. The mayor socks him in
>the face. My brother defended himself. My dad is still on the ground
>getting clobbered. My brother is the same way. I try to stop the
>fight, but all I can do is stop one person. There were 4 or 5 of them
>attacking now.
>
>Someone breaks up the fight. I thought it was all over. The mayor
>shouts to his caddy: “Hindi nila kami kilala! Sabihin mo nga sa kanila
>kung sino ako!” And believe me, I had no idea w[color=darkred]ho this piece of
>jackshit[/color] was. But now I know. He’s [color=darkred]the fuckin’ asshole[/color] who, with 4
>other men, beat up my 56-year-old father and my 14-year-old brother.
>He’s [color=darkred]the piece of jackshit [/color]who sacks a pleading 14-year-old kid in the
>face. He’s [color=darkred]the fuckin’ asshole [/color]who, I am sure, is gonna rot in hell.
>
>I lash out, but my dad held me back. I was screaming my lungs out,
>shouting to this mayor, telling him about what he had done. I said:
>”Nakakahiya kayo. Singkwenta’y sais anyos ang tatay ko. And kapatid ko
>kakatorse anyos. Anong ilalaban nila sayo?”
>
>The mayor looks at my brother, point to his face, and says,
>”Tatandaan kita!” And he tells me that my brother has a bad attitude
>and that I need to watch him. [color=darkred]WHAT THE FUCK?! S[/color]o, my brother’s bad for
>defending his father?!
>
>We leave. We walk to the clubhouse to file a complaint. My brother
>asks for a doctor. My dad could barely walk. Their group comes to the
>clubhouse, sees my brother. Once again my brother pleads, says sorry,
>and is crying. [color=darkred]He was FUCKIN’ CRYING[/color], for crissakes. But no. The
>[color=darkred]relentless fuckhead mayor[/color] still punches him in the face, and then sees
>my dad and goes after my dad again. Him and his friend pull my dad to
>the ground, pulls at his feet, and steps on him like he’s dirt. I run
>to him and try to hold him back, holding him back by his shirt, while
>this other guy and this girl (who I swear is [color=darkred]ANOTHER fuckin’ idiot)[/color]
>tries to stop me. She tells me to just stop it. I scream in her face
>”they’re beating my father up and you want me to stop?!” I pull at his
>shirt–I don’t let go. All I can see was my dad being trampled on. I
>didn’t even see my brother getting beat up.
>
>People pull them away. I get my dad, and I saw my brother. His right
>ear was bleeding. I freaked out. I told the receptionists to bring my
>brother to the clinic. I pull my dad away. People were separating us.
>
>My mom and my older brother come. I tell her Bino’s right ear is
>bleeding. They both look like they could kill. [color=darkred]My mom had a miniature
>baseball bat with her, and my older brother had a real one, and they
>lunge to attack. [/color]My dad holds my brother off, I hold off my mom. When
>I finally got my mom under control, my older brother gets away and I
>hold him off. Two of the mayor’s bodyguards pull out guns. I embraced
>my brother from the back, just holding him back, crying. The
>receptionists came to us, crying, hugging me, my dad, and my mom,
>whispering to us to just leave. “Maam, umalis na po kayo, may mga
>baril sila…Maam. ..umalis na po kayo please…”
>
>I am pretty sure the Secretary of DAR did not take part in the fight,
>but he just watched all this happen. He watched two of his sons, as we
>figured out, the other guy was his son, too, beat up my father and my
>14-year-old brother. He didn’t do anything to stop it. And what is
>this [color=darkred]selfish son of a bitch[/color] now? A cabinet member. A politician.
>
>Sounds like something out of a movie, doesn’t it? But this is what
>happened. TODAY. The day after Christmas. To my family. And all I ask
>for is JUSTICE. The people at Valley Golf did not seem to want to help
>us. None of the security guards even tried to stop the fight. Right in
>the clubhouse. I came back after the fight was over and talked to the
>receptionists. They say they did not see anything. The general manager
>of Valley Golf would not give us the names of the men who made my
>brother’s ear bleed. It took him an hour. Even more than that. He
>seemed to not want to help us. Because, we were against the SECRETARY
>OF THE DEPARTMENT OF AGRARIAN REFORM and the MAYOR OF MASIU CITY,
>LANAO DEL SUR. They were all scared.
>
>[color=darkred]The world is fucked up[/color]. Two politicians beat up a defenseless
>56-year-old father and his 14-year-old son. At a golf course. I swear
>to God, I thought golfers were decent people. You would think
>politicians were decent people. I guess not. I guess they gang up on
>56-year-old men and beat up pleading 14-year-old kids.
>
>Please pray for my dad, my brother and for my whole family. Please
>pray that we get JUSTICE. Oh God, please, give these sadistic people
>what they deserve.
>
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My comments:
If the current version is compared to the earlier version, one will miss the “colorful” language and a revealing fact, which shows it has been edited and sanitized.
In summary, I couldn’t find the following anymore:
• But I guess the world IS fucked up, and the mayor is too,
• end this bullshit
• piece of jackshit -fuckin’ asshole
• WHAT THE FUCK?!
• He was FUCKIN’ CRYING
• The relentless fuckhead mayor
• (who I swear is ANOTHER fuckin’ idiot)
• My mom had a miniature baseball bat with her, and my older brother had a real one, and they lunge to attack.
• And what is this selfish son of a bitch now?
• The world is fucked up
It is obvious, the piece has been edited.
What this means is the whole story was not told here. The physical violence is, of course, abominable but if this is the kind of “colorful” language that was used, then it would really be difficult to restrain oneself.
The portion deleted that the brother attacked with a baseball bat, that’s very telling. The fact that it was removed means the blog was too frank and honest to serve the purpose of making oneself the total victim.
My take.
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So sorry, Bambee, you just lost your credibility.
oh my oh my, how that saying “your can only hide the truth for so long” rings so true now.
before, all accusations of wrongdoing on the part of the de la pazes are dismissed as insinuations. but now, with the original version of bambees blog wildly flying in the blogshpere, what will her supporters say about her now?
her words: “My mom had a miniature baseball bat with her, and my older brother had a real one, and they lunge to attack.”
uh uh, indeed sorry bambee, you just totally lost your credibility!
Ang talagang pinagmulan ng gulo ay ang marshal na escort ng mayor. Kung sana naghintay makapalo sina dela Paz at sinabi sa kanila ng marshal na hahabol lang sina mayor at mauuna sa kanila, hindi sana nagkagulo. Sa tingin ko, nainis si old man dela Paz na parang binastos sila at lalo sigurong naginit nang nalaman niya mula sa mga caddy na flight ni Sec Pangandaman ang nauuna. Kaya nga nabanggit ni old man dela Paz na “kortesiya lang naman.”
ayos jose. hehehe