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		<title>By: A nation driven by &#8220;hiya&#8221; &#124; Filipino Voices</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/showbiz-politicians-brain-and-eye-candy-for-indiscriminate-voters/comment-page-1#comment-5775</link>
		<dc:creator>A nation driven by &#8220;hiya&#8221; &#124; Filipino Voices</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 00:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] For the record, I didn&#8217;t originally use the word &#8220;stupid&#8221; in the article they refer to. I used the phrase intellectually-challenged to soften the blow instead. Fair enough, what is [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] For the record, I didn&#8217;t originally use the word &#8220;stupid&#8221; in the article they refer to. I used the phrase intellectually-challenged to soften the blow instead. Fair enough, what is [...]</p>
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		<title>By: cvj</title>
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		<dc:creator>cvj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Benign0, i also did not agree with the choice of Erap but that is no reason to call the masa &lt;i&gt;stupid&lt;/i&gt;.  We all make mistakes in our choices.  What i think is stupid is the way the middle class opposed Erap in 1998 focusing on superficial aspects like his being an &#039;actor&#039;, something which you are repeating a decade later.

Furthermore, it is not a foregone conclusion that FPJ would have been a &#039;stupid&#039; choice as compared to Gloria Arroyo.  In fact, areas such as &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bulatlat.com/news/3-45/3-45-karonnie.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&gt;food security&lt;/a&gt;, FPJ had the right strategic vision unlike the current occupant of Malacanang.

On the practical side, how can you convince your target audience if you don&#039;t even have basic respect for them?  Is that what they taught you at the Ateneo?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Benign0, i also did not agree with the choice of Erap but that is no reason to call the masa <i>stupid</i>.  We all make mistakes in our choices.  What i think is stupid is the way the middle class opposed Erap in 1998 focusing on superficial aspects like his being an &#8216;actor&#8217;, something which you are repeating a decade later.</p>
<p>Furthermore, it is not a foregone conclusion that FPJ would have been a &#8216;stupid&#8217; choice as compared to Gloria Arroyo.  In fact, areas such as <a href="http://www.bulatlat.com/news/3-45/3-45-karonnie.html" rel="nofollow">&gt;food security</a>, FPJ had the right strategic vision unlike the current occupant of Malacanang.</p>
<p>On the practical side, how can you convince your target audience if you don&#8217;t even have basic respect for them?  Is that what they taught you at the Ateneo?</p>
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		<title>By: J</title>
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		<dc:creator>J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 13:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, benign0. Let&#039;s assume that the masa is stupid. But don&#039;t you think it&#039;s better not to exacerbate their stupidity by presenting generalizations instead of sending your message across through means that are different from those the politicians you so despise?

Sure, politics is dirty. But that&#039;s the point. I thought you want to change the way Pinoys think and the way our politics is conducted? By playing the politicians&#039; and the showbiz people&#039;s game, it makes you, I think, less different from them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, benign0. Let&#8217;s assume that the masa is stupid. But don&#8217;t you think it&#8217;s better not to exacerbate their stupidity by presenting generalizations instead of sending your message across through means that are different from those the politicians you so despise?</p>
<p>Sure, politics is dirty. But that&#8217;s the point. I thought you want to change the way Pinoys think and the way our politics is conducted? By playing the politicians&#8217; and the showbiz people&#8217;s game, it makes you, I think, less different from them.</p>
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		<title>By: benign0</title>
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		<dc:creator>benign0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 06:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cvj, how else does one describe an electorate that elected a guy like Erap to the highest office in the land (and seems to be on the verge of doing that moronic act again in the event he manages to make another bid for that post).

Let&#039;s also not forget how we also came scaringly close to an FPJ Administration if not for a couple of twists in the political circus (as well as fate) that quashed that bid.

Besides, as you are wont to point out, I do not really claim to be the originator of what &lt;i&gt;to you&lt;/i&gt; seems to be the shockingly preposterous idea that Pinoys are collectively intellectually bankrupt, as &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.geocities.com/benign0/agr-disagr/10-comsen.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this article&lt;/a&gt; -- written way back in 2000 -- demonstrates (excerpt follow):

&lt;blockquote&gt;AN admired Filipino economist, based in New York, surveyed the economic situation here and dolefully intoned: &#039;&#039;What ails the country is that Philippine society is intellectually bankrupt.&#039;&#039; Take, for instance, the national debates, she pointed out.

&quot;They are droll and unintelligent, focused on the trivial or the irrelevant.&quot; When the issues are of some significance, it&#039;s the wrong arguments that prevail, the wrong side wins. Logic and common sense take the backseat to political arguments and the views of the poorly-educated. There seems to be some bases for her disenchantment [...]&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.geocities.com/benign0/agr-disagr/10-comsen.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Read on&lt;/a&gt; if you dare. :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cvj, how else does one describe an electorate that elected a guy like Erap to the highest office in the land (and seems to be on the verge of doing that moronic act again in the event he manages to make another bid for that post).</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s also not forget how we also came scaringly close to an FPJ Administration if not for a couple of twists in the political circus (as well as fate) that quashed that bid.</p>
<p>Besides, as you are wont to point out, I do not really claim to be the originator of what <i>to you</i> seems to be the shockingly preposterous idea that Pinoys are collectively intellectually bankrupt, as <a href="http://www.geocities.com/benign0/agr-disagr/10-comsen.html" rel="nofollow">this article</a> &#8212; written way back in 2000 &#8212; demonstrates (excerpt follow):</p>
<blockquote><p>AN admired Filipino economist, based in New York, surveyed the economic situation here and dolefully intoned: &#8221;What ails the country is that Philippine society is intellectually bankrupt.&#8221; Take, for instance, the national debates, she pointed out.</p>
<p>&#8220;They are droll and unintelligent, focused on the trivial or the irrelevant.&#8221; When the issues are of some significance, it&#8217;s the wrong arguments that prevail, the wrong side wins. Logic and common sense take the backseat to political arguments and the views of the poorly-educated. There seems to be some bases for her disenchantment [...]</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.geocities.com/benign0/agr-disagr/10-comsen.html" rel="nofollow">Read on</a> if you dare. :D</p>
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		<title>By: cvj</title>
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		<dc:creator>cvj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 05:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your post exhibits precisely the kind of elitist &#039;educate the &lt;i&gt;intellectually-challenged electorate&lt;/i&gt;&#039; attitude that prevents genuine communication between the classes. If you really believed in your oft-repeated mantra of getting people to &lt;i&gt;think&lt;/i&gt;, then you would not have needed to resort to such campaigning via stereotypes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your post exhibits precisely the kind of elitist &#8216;educate the <i>intellectually-challenged electorate</i>&#8216; attitude that prevents genuine communication between the classes. If you really believed in your oft-repeated mantra of getting people to <i>think</i>, then you would not have needed to resort to such campaigning via stereotypes.</p>
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