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1. Joe America says:
   September 11, 2009 at 3:31 pm

   ahahaha,
   your point being?

   I’m thinking Mr. Roxas pulled his plug a little early and washed himself down the tube, a sloshing wave of righteous political suicide, water the color of yellow.

   Joe

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   • BongV says:
     September 11, 2009 at 9:52 pm

     joe:

     am just a curious individual and wanted to do a fact check. ;)

     having seen the titles of proposed legislations (or lack thereof) , the logical next step would be to find out what happened to these proposals – or if another commenter can do a follow up and see what happened to these proposed pieces of legislation

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     • Bencard says:
       September 12, 2009 at 12:44 am

       bongv, i asked the same question in connection with buencamino’s list of noynoy’s proposed bills in another thread. i now realized that it’s really not easy to usher a bill to completion and final enactment. in a divided senate composed of many factions, getting a bill approved is like going through the eye of a needle.

       having said that, we can just compare the quality and substance of the bills introduced by those aspiring to be president. it will help us see where their heart and mind and interest are as well as their agenda for governance should they win the election.
   • BongV says:
     September 11, 2009 at 10:56 pm

     joe:

     having seen the recent rush of postings of track records – i succumbed to the temptation and stepped low to go with the flow

     likewise, I think mar was overrun by melodrama and the mexican telenovela memes that circulate in total drama island. what he should have been done is for the LP to have a transparent caucus or an activity that essentially can be described as a run-off instead of the trapo horsetrading brokered by ninongs and ninangs.

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     • Bencard says:
       September 11, 2009 at 11:49 pm

       thanks for this post, bongv. great job. now we can separate the boys from the men. just as i suspected, noynoy is a passive, do-nothing legislator who has no ibubuga. in contrast, the record is there for all to see. villar is a buzz saw who sponsors real quality legislation on almost all facet of governance – a no-nonsense lawmaker unhampered by politics of hate and destruction. if anything, the record shows that he is doing the job he was elected to do.
     • BongV says:
       September 12, 2009 at 12:08 am

       bencard:

       this is sort of indulging with the mainstream’s style of evaluation. after all this is the kind of language that the “mainstream” speaks.

       having seen his personal conduct, legislative proposals, i am interested so what his platform is – and what his take is on the issues of the day and how he will resolve said issues.

       looking at his legislative proposals – i can’t wait to see what he comes up with – given the type of legislations he has proposed. stuff that’s not limited to naming cities, and adjusting budgets.
2. karl garcia says:
   September 11, 2009 at 5:16 pm

   since agapito is boots aquino.
   then noynoy would be nil for 2005

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3. Hyden Toro says:
   September 11, 2009 at 10:35 pm

   We want Mr. Villar’s platform. Not of boasting of what he has done.

   If he can dialogue with us. It would be better. It seems he is
   hiding. He let his people do his talking. No good for a candidatw.
   He cannot speak for himself ? Dont want to talk to us ? We have
   the votes, if he gives us a good deal…

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   • BongV says:
     September 11, 2009 at 10:51 pm

     Absolutely. Totally Agree.

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   • Bencard says:
     September 11, 2009 at 11:36 pm

     hold your horses, toro. the campaign has not even begun. the candidates are yet to formally announce their candidacy. the horse first before the cart, right. look at roxas, he is a non-candidate with a platform.

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4. Hyden Toro says:
   September 11, 2009 at 10:45 pm

   Mr. Villar should tell us, what he can do for us. Identify problems
   of our country. Give solutions to us. Then, we can discuss, debate
   and deliberate on them.

   We dont want candidates who are good in hiding and SIDESTEPPING
   important issues. We are looking for people who can give solutions.
   Look us in the eye, and tell us: “WE CAN DO THIS !” Clear enough,
   Mr. Villar ?

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   • BongV says:
     September 11, 2009 at 10:52 pm

     Totally agree. A friend of mine called me up about Villar. I told him verbatim – platform plez.

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5. Hyden Toro says:
   September 11, 2009 at 11:09 pm

   What I see in most candidate aspirants are: (1) What is it for me ?
   (2) I will run for President, or Vice President.

   It is for their Ego, their self importance, and what they can get out
   of this election.

   It is for them, dummy, not for us !

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   • BongV says:
     September 12, 2009 at 12:01 am

     Hyden, that seems to be the definition of “winnability” – one of the themes being pushed by Noynoy’s handlers.

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6. GabbyD says:
   September 12, 2009 at 12:28 am

   this is just for one year? 2005?

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   • BongV says:
     September 12, 2009 at 3:10 am

     GabbyD:

     Those are the proposed legislations as of Oct 2005, since it shows that the proposal were filed in 2004, then the listing is most likely cumulative.

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7. Joe America says:
   September 12, 2009 at 9:36 am

   bongV, bencard,

   You two alway have this mushy two-step going, building each other up.

   That said, bencard will be pleased to know that I have added Mr. Villar back onto my list of prospective candidates. The two primary candidates, Mr. Villar and Mr. Aquino are fascinating tests of my principles. Character, capability, and intent. Mr. Villar is wobbly on the first, but appears to have capability. Mr. Aquino has character but no known ability to get things done.

   Joe

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   • Bencard says:
     September 14, 2009 at 6:51 am

     too bad you cannot vote, joe-am, but i’m sure your perspective adds flavor to the debate going on in this blog. i notice that the number of postings about noynoy aquino is more than that about the others. i think there is a real need to make a complete comparison of the records of at least the likely opponents.

     this posting of bongv, and similar entries, should merit a headline treatment at FV and other worthy blogs, instead of just a marginal exposure. our editor not chief, nick, should please take note.

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     • Joe America says:
       September 14, 2009 at 9:05 am

       bencard,

       Why thank you.

       I give BongV headline treatment because he usually makes sense. When he does not, I feel obligated to point out the error of his ways. heh I am pompous even to people I like.

       Joe
8. Primer says:
   September 13, 2009 at 9:57 am

   I am not sure how good bongV can tell us whether these Senate bills are those principally sponsored by Villar?

   Further to the point, it is likewise perhaps relevant to check Villar’s principally authored bills or co-authored during the whole period of time that he sat as the Senate president.

   We may even have to backtrack a bit – lay down all those bills and measures Villar both principally authored or co-authored the whole time he was the Speaker of the House of Representatives.

   That done, maybe, conclusions can be sufficiently drawn.

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   • BongV says:
     September 13, 2009 at 8:35 pm

     Primer:

     You are correct. That is exactly the next step to take. Consider the post as a sort of outline – 2005 being just the beginning – and a more thorough review and comparison from which we can draw sufficient conclusions is in order.

     Now, as you seem to have access to such kind of information. Perhaps you can do the FV community a favor – dig up and present the facts – and do more comparisons.

     I look forward to your findings.

     Note that the review of past performance is only one aspect of the over-all evaluation process.

     a) Review the past performance
     b) Review the current performance
     c) Review the projected performance, to consist of:
     c.1) – Vision
     c.2) – Mission
     c.3) – Platform
     c.4) – Program of actions to achieve the vision – Specific, Measurable, Achievable, Relevant, and Time-Bound.

     Areas of Consideration:
     1 -Is the candidate’s campaign theme consistent with past and present performance
     2 – Is the platform consistent with past and present performance
     3 – What is the canidate’s Unique Selling Proposition? Is this exactly what the country needs? Do you agree? Disagree?

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9. justice league says:
   September 15, 2009 at 3:10 am

   BongV,

   I won’t fault you for a mistake that the Philippine business website may have committed.

   I looked up the site and noted a discrepancy when ranged against what is posted in Sen. Noynoy’s site.

   So I went to the website of the House (fortunately they still kept a record of the 13th Congress when he was still a Congressman) and found that there is at least one House bill in his name that is not credited by your linked site which is within the designated date of Oct 31, 2005.

   His bill of HB04521 was filed within the specified time. This was followed closely by his bill of HB04522 (which unfortunately does not indicate when it was filed but if one considers the dates of the HBs that followed it would put it having been filed before Oct. 31, 2005)

   Unfortunately again, the House Congressional website is poorly kept.

   Try to click on the history of the bills of the 13th Congress and it will send you to the history of the particular bill with the same number in the 14th Congress instead.

   Of about 6,000 Hbs filed in the 13th Congress from 2004 to 2007; only the text of 450 are available. A search for bills authorship is also futile as the roster for the 13th Congress for searching is actually for the 14th. Proof is that Jose Ma. Zubiri III is listed instead of his brother now Sen. Juan Miguel. Obviously now Sen. Aquino isn’t listed either for searching.

   Anyway, a head on count of Sen. Villar and Sen. Noynoy’s bills would still surely put Villar ahead but a comparison between the legislative output of a member of the Senate and a member of the House (which Noynoy was at the time specified) appears unfair in the light that there is nearly 9-10:1 between House and Senate members. For the Senate to perfectly (in search of a better word) keep up with the output of the House would have each Senate member cough up 9-10 times as many bills as a member of the House produces. So it should not be surprising if a Senate member has more bills than any singular member of the House.

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   • BongV says:
     September 15, 2009 at 4:05 am

     JL:

     Thanks for the heads-up. I deferred to the Makati Business Club’s listing as I presume it had time in its hands (which I don’t have) to sift through the ton of legislation.

     What interests me is not just the quantity of the legislation but the nature of the legislation proposed – something that’s not plain jane vanilla budget line item insertions or renaming a street for that matter.

     I was looking for something different – something that shows insightful thinking than just the usual “pwede na” legislation. And I saw a glaring difference in the type of proposals submitted.

     Lastly, as mentioned this is a snapshot of what they were both doing in 2005.

     I also looked at Noynoy’s website to dig up the stuff he passed as Senator – those that came up from the Senate website were: Presumably they will be a good addition to where NoyNoy’s output is NONE.

     As a senator of the Republic of the Philippines, he has authored several landmark pieces of legislation, most notably, * the Magna Carta for Small Farmers
     * Seed Act,
     * the Cooperative Code of the Philippines.

     We can use that, too and do a qualitative and quantitative comparison as well.

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   • BongV says:
     September 15, 2009 at 4:13 am

     Addendum:

     The PCIJ site provides more info on what Noynoy has done thus far in the Senate (http://www.pcij.org/stories/2009/noynoy.html):

     Noynoy was elected to the Senate in 2007, after running a campaign that featured an ad with his mother promising “lagot siya sa nanay niya (he will get it from his mother)!”
     NOYNOY HAS authored a total of nine bills. This pales in comparison with the 738 bills filed by Miriam Defensor Santiago over the same period, but not with the eight bills filed by fellow freshman Senator Alan Peter Cayetano.

     Two bills authored by Noynoy have passed Senate and are pending before the House of Representatives:

     * Senate Bill No. 2978 would amend Republic Act No. 6875, or the Local Government Act, to put in place parameters for the selection of PNP Provincial Directors and City/Municipal Chief of Police for local government units.

     * Senate Bill No. 1710 would ban the re-appointment of a regular member of the Judicial and Bar Council (JBC) who has already served the full term.

     A look at other bills he authored pending before various Senate committees tell us his apparent advocacies and priorities:

     * Government Procurement and Corruption

     o Senate Bill No. 2160 would introduce an amendment to Republic Act No. 9864, or the Government Procurement Reform Act, which seeks to remove ambiguity so that the act would cover projects such as the National Broadband Network (NBN) project, the Cyber Education (CyberEd) project, and other projects of the scale.

     o Senate Bill No. 2035 would require contractors to handle the regular maintenance and preservation for public infrastructure after the end of the project

     o Senate Bill No. 3121 would add Congressional oversight to budget decisions undertaken by the President, including budget rescission, reservation, and deferral

     * Human rights

     o Senate Bill No. 2159, or the Superior Responsibility Act of 2008, would adopt the doctrine of ‘Superior Responsibility’ for all military and police personnel, in response to extra-judicial killings, particularly human rights activists and media practitioners

     * Workers’ rights and benefits

     o Senate Bill No. 1370, or the Workers Productivity Incentives Act of 2007 would grant annual productivity incentive bonuses to all workers in the private sector amounting to no less than 10% of the company’s net profits before taxes

     o Senate Bill No. 2036 would amend Republic Act No. 6727, otherwise known as the ‘Wage Rationalization Act’, to increase the penalties for non-compliance of the prescribed increases and adjustments in the wage rates of workers

     * Presidential appointees

     o Senate Bill No. 1719, or the Appointee Eligibility Act of 2007, would limit the reappointment of presidential appointees by-passed by the Commission on Appointment, in response to the alleged presidential abuse of appointments

     He has shown diligence in his chairmanship of the Committee on Local Government. He has sponsored six Senate bills, two of which have been passed into law: Republic Act No. 9649, which amended the Charter of General Santos City, and Republic Act No. 9640, which lowered amusement taxes from 30 percent to 10 percent. The rest are pending in the House of Representatives.

     His sponsorship of House bills has also resulted in the creation of two new legislative districts, in Malolos City and in Agusan del Sur, with sponsorships for bills for reapportionments in four other districts (Lapu-Lapu City, Cavite, Camarines Norte, Iligan City) still pending. He also sponsors House bills concerned with special city and municipal holidays, such as the Cagayan de Oro City Day and the Getage (Bohol) Foundation Day.

     From said article, I will update the comparison with Villar’s output.

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     • Joe America says:
       September 15, 2009 at 10:37 am

       BongV,

       Thank you for putting in the effort to dig this information up.

       My assessment of Mr. Aquino, from the bills you report, is that: 1) he is definitely interested in a more ethical government, 2) he is legitimately interested in the public welfare, 3) he is trying to figure out ways to constrain the excesses of the Executive branch of government.

       The fact that stunned me, though, was the 738 new bills Ms. Santiago authored. That is truly amazing. And she expects a normal citizen to understand what the hell government is up to?

       Interesting that the bills are in English but English is not consistently taught in Philippine schools. I was reading through the fine print of the SC’s recent crafting of law for arbitration of disputes. It was very well written, if detailed (4 large newspaper pages, small font). In English.

       Runamuck lunacy devoid of sense, common or otherwise. It is a nation of laws that no one understands for one reason or another. Rather reminds me of the US IRS. “Overwhelm them with obfuscation” then intimidate, fine or jail them if they can’t figure it out.

       IRS words are like mad swarms of horny bees blasting about looking for the queen, who, alas, is out dicking with the ants. Thousands of words aimed at your face with no real meaning attached.

       Joe
10. justice league says:
    September 16, 2009 at 4:17 am

    BongV,

    Goodluck on your end then.

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