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		<title>By: malou</title>
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		<dc:creator>malou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 01:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i want to say is that GMA sona will be a frame work of her ambition, she didn&#039;t give her report in her past SONA because all of the things that she said on her SONA were just paper that she wrote down on a paper and let her speech be heard by everybody.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i want to say is that GMA sona will be a frame work of her ambition, she didn&#8217;t give her report in her past SONA because all of the things that she said on her SONA were just paper that she wrote down on a paper and let her speech be heard by everybody.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe America</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/surveys-vs-upcoming-8th-sona/comment-page-1#comment-76933</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 00:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BongV,

You are right, of course. I was referring to those in power, within government, who choose to enrich themselves while the impoverished struggle. Bill Gates truly impresses me. I did considerable work for a children&#039;s charity in Los Angeles. Stephen Spielberg was the founder and main beneficiary. He is not only rich and talented, he is a very good man.

Joe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BongV,</p>
<p>You are right, of course. I was referring to those in power, within government, who choose to enrich themselves while the impoverished struggle. Bill Gates truly impresses me. I did considerable work for a children&#8217;s charity in Los Angeles. Stephen Spielberg was the founder and main beneficiary. He is not only rich and talented, he is a very good man.</p>
<p>Joe</p>
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		<title>By: Primer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Primer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 00:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone from PASG claims that Good Year is into smuggling and this having been under close watch, it decided to fold tent and close shop.  As to its truth, I am not sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone from PASG claims that Good Year is into smuggling and this having been under close watch, it decided to fold tent and close shop.  As to its truth, I am not sure.</p>
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		<title>By: BongV</title>
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		<dc:creator>BongV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 20:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you will be surprised to know that good year imports rubber from the philippines, specifically, kidapawan, north cotabato.

the rubber is exported to cheaper factories in asia and re-exported to the philippines as tires.

the philippine plant was started in 1956 - apparently, the plant needs to be retooled and retrofitted. however, the cost of upgrading the factories is likely too high and the total landed cost of the product still provides a profit margin since the tires are still being made in asia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you will be surprised to know that good year imports rubber from the philippines, specifically, kidapawan, north cotabato.</p>
<p>the rubber is exported to cheaper factories in asia and re-exported to the philippines as tires.</p>
<p>the philippine plant was started in 1956 &#8211; apparently, the plant needs to be retooled and retrofitted. however, the cost of upgrading the factories is likely too high and the total landed cost of the product still provides a profit margin since the tires are still being made in asia.</p>
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		<title>By: nosibalasi</title>
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		<dc:creator>nosibalasi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>labor cost in China, Vietnam or Indonesia is cheaper against the Philippines...yes I agree to Dr Villegas...the Govt knew that those manufacturers are pulling out their facilities from Philippines  for a long time and they never made any long term plan to solve this labor shortage due to competition with our neighboring countries. it was easy for them to say that the labor cost were the primary reason why foreign investors are pulling out their businesses in our dear country. and it is unfair for the labor-class people that the salary they were getting is higher as compare to other country, but in reality their wages are not enough to sustain a good quality life, because the minimum wage across the country is not enough for transportation, food, shelter, medicine, electricity bill, water bills...comparing with China/Vietnam/Indonesia...there are many unbalance factors why the labor cost is high as compare to other countries, and why the minimum wage cannot sustain a good quality life...in a manufacturing set-up...and it depends what products they are manufacturing...
let say for Goodyear...it is a rubber material...that comes from Rubber trees...does anyone from here that knows where to get this material that is nearest to Philippine ports...well the biggest rubber plantation is in Sabah, Malaysia...while the biggest supplier of rubber raw material is from Indonesia...meron ba nito sa Pilipinas? wala...so it is clear na dapat lang talaga mag pull out ang GOODYEAR sa PILIPINAS...kasi hindi naman talaga labor cost ang mahal...ang cost ng materyales ( may pagka tungaw pala itong si Dr Villegas- gagamit pa ng sample Goodyear pa).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>labor cost in China, Vietnam or Indonesia is cheaper against the Philippines&#8230;yes I agree to Dr Villegas&#8230;the Govt knew that those manufacturers are pulling out their facilities from Philippines  for a long time and they never made any long term plan to solve this labor shortage due to competition with our neighboring countries. it was easy for them to say that the labor cost were the primary reason why foreign investors are pulling out their businesses in our dear country. and it is unfair for the labor-class people that the salary they were getting is higher as compare to other country, but in reality their wages are not enough to sustain a good quality life, because the minimum wage across the country is not enough for transportation, food, shelter, medicine, electricity bill, water bills&#8230;comparing with China/Vietnam/Indonesia&#8230;there are many unbalance factors why the labor cost is high as compare to other countries, and why the minimum wage cannot sustain a good quality life&#8230;in a manufacturing set-up&#8230;and it depends what products they are manufacturing&#8230;<br />
let say for Goodyear&#8230;it is a rubber material&#8230;that comes from Rubber trees&#8230;does anyone from here that knows where to get this material that is nearest to Philippine ports&#8230;well the biggest rubber plantation is in Sabah, Malaysia&#8230;while the biggest supplier of rubber raw material is from Indonesia&#8230;meron ba nito sa Pilipinas? wala&#8230;so it is clear na dapat lang talaga mag pull out ang GOODYEAR sa PILIPINAS&#8230;kasi hindi naman talaga labor cost ang mahal&#8230;ang cost ng materyales ( may pagka tungaw pala itong si Dr Villegas- gagamit pa ng sample Goodyear pa).</p>
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		<title>By: BongV</title>
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		<dc:creator>BongV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>third kind - PEOPLE NOT UNDER GMA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>third kind &#8211; PEOPLE NOT UNDER GMA</p>
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		<title>By: BongV</title>
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		<dc:creator>BongV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>at least Arroyo is in power.

utrecht is still outside the kulambo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>at least Arroyo is in power.</p>
<p>utrecht is still outside the kulambo.</p>
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		<title>By: BongV</title>
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		<dc:creator>BongV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;em&gt;This is where I part ways with your values, and the values of BongV and Benign0 and, I suspect, the majority of the greedy empowered who build their wealth on the backs of the impoverished. It reflects a callous intellectual point of view that serves to justify the status quo, and keeps people &#8220;in their stupid places&#8221;.&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&#160;
Positive Money Belief: &lt;strong&gt;Poor or Rich People Can Be Just As Evil. &lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;i&gt;Myth to Bust: &#8220;Rich People are Evil&#8221;.&lt;/i&gt;
I can never understand the myth that rich people are evil. Are they really? Are you saying that poor people cannot be evil? I can only think of the many philanthropists out there (eg. Warren Buffet, Bill Gates, etc) who have given their money for worthy causes. I have got many friends, who by local standards, will be considered rich. Believe me, they are no different. In fact, I found many to be just as kind-hearted, generous and responsible.
There are as many evil people in the rich as there are poor. The amount of material wealth that one has is no indication of his or her values whatsoever. Let us not judge a person prematurely and without reasonable basis.
Positive Money Belief: &lt;strong&gt;Money is A Measure of My Positive Thoughts.&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;i&gt;Myth to Bust: &#8220;Money only comes from hard work&#8221;, &#8220;There is a limit to how much I can earn&#8221;.&lt;/i&gt;
What is money? Money is a form of energy exchange. It stores value by our applied meanings. It is a measure of confidence - of how much you believe that having it can be used for your future purposes, of the value that you place on your own goods and services and of how much others are willing to do an exchange with you for. It can therefore be said to be a measure of your positive thoughts on worth.
&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;em&gt;When a child is born, that child is innocent. If he happens to be born to a family of seven brothers and sisters in a poor fishing village, he is dealt a different lot in life than you or I were dealt. He may not be able to afford school uniforms or exam fees. He may have to go work the seas to help put food on the table. He does not have the same OPPORTUNITIES that people with a little money have. He can&#8217;t help it if he is ignorant, if he can&#8217;t get educated. The government determines that by requiring uniforms and assessing exam fees. He can&#8217;t help it if his Dad sells his vote for some cash, to help with the food.&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;em&gt;So don&#8217;t give me that schtick about misfortunes of others, because those misfortunes are IMPOSED upon innocent children by people with values such as those you espouse. The child made no &#8220;bad choice&#8221; in selecting the family, country, or government that handicap him for a LIFETIME.&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;em&gt;When he is older he is stuck in the same rut as his parents. No real opportunity to GET THE HELL OUT OF THIS VILLAGE and have a life. Or the squatter&#8217;s villages in every city. Or those crammed industrial buildings up by the Manila ports. Or the grass shacks in the hills, hiding out with the other NPA gangsters.&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
The misfortunes can be imposed, but these are impositions that can be overcome with will and ambition. That&#039;s the price of admission to liberation. Only those who are willing to be brave can be free. </description>
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<em>This is where I part ways with your values, and the values of BongV and Benign0 and, I suspect, the majority of the greedy empowered who build their wealth on the backs of the impoverished. It reflects a callous intellectual point of view that serves to justify the status quo, and keeps people &ldquo;in their stupid places&rdquo;.</em>
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<p>&nbsp;<br />
Positive Money Belief: <strong>Poor or Rich People Can Be Just As Evil. </strong><br />
<i>Myth to Bust: &ldquo;Rich People are Evil&rdquo;.</i><br />
I can never understand the myth that rich people are evil. Are they really? Are you saying that poor people cannot be evil? I can only think of the many philanthropists out there (eg. Warren Buffet, Bill Gates, etc) who have given their money for worthy causes. I have got many friends, who by local standards, will be considered rich. Believe me, they are no different. In fact, I found many to be just as kind-hearted, generous and responsible.<br />
There are as many evil people in the rich as there are poor. The amount of material wealth that one has is no indication of his or her values whatsoever. Let us not judge a person prematurely and without reasonable basis.<br />
Positive Money Belief: <strong>Money is A Measure of My Positive Thoughts.</strong><br />
<i>Myth to Bust: &ldquo;Money only comes from hard work&rdquo;, &ldquo;There is a limit to how much I can earn&rdquo;.</i><br />
What is money? Money is a form of energy exchange. It stores value by our applied meanings. It is a measure of confidence &#8211; of how much you believe that having it can be used for your future purposes, of the value that you place on your own goods and services and of how much others are willing to do an exchange with you for. It can therefore be said to be a measure of your positive thoughts on worth.</p>
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<em>When a child is born, that child is innocent. If he happens to be born to a family of seven brothers and sisters in a poor fishing village, he is dealt a different lot in life than you or I were dealt. He may not be able to afford school uniforms or exam fees. He may have to go work the seas to help put food on the table. He does not have the same OPPORTUNITIES that people with a little money have. He can&rsquo;t help it if he is ignorant, if he can&rsquo;t get educated. The government determines that by requiring uniforms and assessing exam fees. He can&rsquo;t help it if his Dad sells his vote for some cash, to help with the food.</em><br />
<em>So don&rsquo;t give me that schtick about misfortunes of others, because those misfortunes are IMPOSED upon innocent children by people with values such as those you espouse. The child made no &ldquo;bad choice&rdquo; in selecting the family, country, or government that handicap him for a LIFETIME.</em><br />
<em>When he is older he is stuck in the same rut as his parents. No real opportunity to GET THE HELL OUT OF THIS VILLAGE and have a life. Or the squatter&rsquo;s villages in every city. Or those crammed industrial buildings up by the Manila ports. Or the grass shacks in the hills, hiding out with the other NPA gangsters.</em>
</p></blockquote>
<p>The misfortunes can be imposed, but these are impositions that can be overcome with will and ambition. That&#8217;s the price of admission to liberation. Only those who are willing to be brave can be free.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe America</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 04:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bencard,

If you need a definition of &quot;people&quot; you have been sitting in your easy chair too long and need to return in a hurry. I&#039;d suggest you spend a little time outside the Fort and tour some of the poorer outlying areas, or visit with the cab drivers and ask how the family is . . . be prepared for an earful . . .

I&#039;m Joe, only Joe.

Joe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bencard,</p>
<p>If you need a definition of &#8220;people&#8221; you have been sitting in your easy chair too long and need to return in a hurry. I&#8217;d suggest you spend a little time outside the Fort and tour some of the poorer outlying areas, or visit with the cab drivers and ask how the family is . . . be prepared for an earful . . .</p>
<p>I&#8217;m Joe, only Joe.</p>
<p>Joe</p>
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		<title>By: Bencard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bencard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 02:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you know, joe, you really have an uncanny similarity with djb in the way you argue. there you go again distorting and misrepresenting what i said. i said the SONA is NOT about the miseries of the losers, the people who made bad choices or those who have been dealt with a bad hand. i never said a child born in poverty made a &quot;bad choice&quot;. that&#039;s a strawman argument that you are so adept at making.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you know, joe, you really have an uncanny similarity with djb in the way you argue. there you go again distorting and misrepresenting what i said. i said the SONA is NOT about the miseries of the losers, the people who made bad choices or those who have been dealt with a bad hand. i never said a child born in poverty made a &#8220;bad choice&#8221;. that&#8217;s a strawman argument that you are so adept at making.</p>
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