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		<title>By: Primer</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/swine-flue-a-commonsensical-view/comment-page-1#comment-63249</link>
		<dc:creator>Primer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 23:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the DOH secretary to shut up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the DOH secretary to shut up.</p>
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		<title>By: ph in ph</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/swine-flue-a-commonsensical-view/comment-page-1#comment-63131</link>
		<dc:creator>ph in ph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 12:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>first, it&#039;s hoax. with that out of the way...

I haven&#039;t heard that interview but the secretary must be playing on the safe side. Health is a funny issue because you cannot spout conclusions all the time. The general rule is if there is a plausible mechanism, you don&#039;t dismiss it unless you have good proof of otherwise.

SARS, avian flu, hepa. Just scares?! Hepa is not a scare of the past. We&#039;re still grappling with these viruses despite the availability of vaccination programs, despite multiple regulations for sanitary conditions. SARS might have subsided but it&#039;s not just luck that the Philippines were spared from a SARS epidemic.

influenza has always been primarily transmitted through droplet nuclei, a fact DOH heads will probably know as most (if not all) are MDs. I&#039;m sorry... and what do you propose the DOH do instead of contact tracing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>first, it&#8217;s hoax. with that out of the way&#8230;</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t heard that interview but the secretary must be playing on the safe side. Health is a funny issue because you cannot spout conclusions all the time. The general rule is if there is a plausible mechanism, you don&#8217;t dismiss it unless you have good proof of otherwise.</p>
<p>SARS, avian flu, hepa. Just scares?! Hepa is not a scare of the past. We&#8217;re still grappling with these viruses despite the availability of vaccination programs, despite multiple regulations for sanitary conditions. SARS might have subsided but it&#8217;s not just luck that the Philippines were spared from a SARS epidemic.</p>
<p>influenza has always been primarily transmitted through droplet nuclei, a fact DOH heads will probably know as most (if not all) are MDs. I&#8217;m sorry&#8230; and what do you propose the DOH do instead of contact tracing?</p>
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		<title>By: Primer</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/swine-flue-a-commonsensical-view/comment-page-1#comment-61937</link>
		<dc:creator>Primer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 07:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just today at an interview with Arnold Clavio, the health secretary cannot avoid using words such as - posible, sila daw, mukhang ..., siguro, et cetera - or words that simply border on speculations in updating the listening public on the extent of the influenza A(H1N1).

I am beginning to think that all these are nothing but a haux.  Remember the other scares in the past - the SARS, the avian flue, hepa, and so on?

Further, just today, I read from the column of a doctor from St. Lukes Medical Center that who heads the Institute for Communicable Diseases that this A(H1N1) is not airborne.  It requires &#039;droplet&#039; prevention so as not to contact the virus.  And more.

But the way the health secretary puts it, anyone can be a suspect hence his new myth of &#039;contact tracing&#039;.  At a later time, I will react to this kind of scare being perpetrated as probably just a haux.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just today at an interview with Arnold Clavio, the health secretary cannot avoid using words such as &#8211; posible, sila daw, mukhang &#8230;, siguro, et cetera &#8211; or words that simply border on speculations in updating the listening public on the extent of the influenza A(H1N1).</p>
<p>I am beginning to think that all these are nothing but a haux.  Remember the other scares in the past &#8211; the SARS, the avian flue, hepa, and so on?</p>
<p>Further, just today, I read from the column of a doctor from St. Lukes Medical Center that who heads the Institute for Communicable Diseases that this A(H1N1) is not airborne.  It requires &#8216;droplet&#8217; prevention so as not to contact the virus.  And more.</p>
<p>But the way the health secretary puts it, anyone can be a suspect hence his new myth of &#8216;contact tracing&#8217;.  At a later time, I will react to this kind of scare being perpetrated as probably just a haux.</p>
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		<title>By: ulong pare</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/swine-flue-a-commonsensical-view/comment-page-1#comment-61734</link>
		<dc:creator>ulong pare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 13:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... daaang

... if the &quot;more enlightened minds&quot; take the opportunity to examine the stones that hit their windshields, they&#039;d realize that it was thrown for a purpose... to wake y&#039;all up from your fantasies and bring you back to reality...

... the little children remind that everyone is lost in distorted priorities...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; daaang</p>
<p>&#8230; if the &#8220;more enlightened minds&#8221; take the opportunity to examine the stones that hit their windshields, they&#8217;d realize that it was thrown for a purpose&#8230; to wake y&#8217;all up from your fantasies and bring you back to reality&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230; the little children remind that everyone is lost in distorted priorities&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ph in ph</title>
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		<dc:creator>ph in ph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 10:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tamiflu stocks, for me, should not be used as the lone criterion for preparedness. We should look if preventive behavior is being taught and promoted, if the health workers in the country are capable of handling suspected cases, if people are able to recognize symptoms and administer proper measures (such as quarantine the sick), are there policies set for these kinds of diseases (probably, there are as we already had that SARS incident) and other non-medical related activities.

and due to our unique geography, flu medicine need not be able to cover a lot of the population because flu outbreaks will probably be concentrated in certain regions only and not nationwide.

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you see fear mongering, i see health promotion. i also see an opportunity for people to finally learn to cough or sneaze into hankies or their sleeves. Ew... those who cover with bare hands or worse, let it out in the open.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tamiflu stocks, for me, should not be used as the lone criterion for preparedness. We should look if preventive behavior is being taught and promoted, if the health workers in the country are capable of handling suspected cases, if people are able to recognize symptoms and administer proper measures (such as quarantine the sick), are there policies set for these kinds of diseases (probably, there are as we already had that SARS incident) and other non-medical related activities.</p>
<p>and due to our unique geography, flu medicine need not be able to cover a lot of the population because flu outbreaks will probably be concentrated in certain regions only and not nationwide.</p>
<p>&#8212;<br />
you see fear mongering, i see health promotion. i also see an opportunity for people to finally learn to cough or sneaze into hankies or their sleeves. Ew&#8230; those who cover with bare hands or worse, let it out in the open.</p>
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		<title>By: Primer</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/swine-flue-a-commonsensical-view/comment-page-1#comment-61684</link>
		<dc:creator>Primer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 08:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are already those of us who left this place as there are virtual &#039;little children&#039; throwing stones when cars pass by causing undue accidents to the peril of the more enlightened minds.

They sure are still here waiting for the unseen opportunity to throw stones right in your windshield because that seems to be their cheap concerns.

Enlightened debate is not even allowed to proceed.  Perhaps, DJB is correct - somehow bloggers must exercise self-imposed restraint if not comments that have nothing to do with the points discussed in the blog be subjected to &#039;thought controls&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are already those of us who left this place as there are virtual &#8216;little children&#8217; throwing stones when cars pass by causing undue accidents to the peril of the more enlightened minds.</p>
<p>They sure are still here waiting for the unseen opportunity to throw stones right in your windshield because that seems to be their cheap concerns.</p>
<p>Enlightened debate is not even allowed to proceed.  Perhaps, DJB is correct &#8211; somehow bloggers must exercise self-imposed restraint if not comments that have nothing to do with the points discussed in the blog be subjected to &#8216;thought controls&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Bert</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/swine-flue-a-commonsensical-view/comment-page-1#comment-61677</link>
		<dc:creator>Bert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 08:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Renato, you and ulong a twins?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Renato, you and ulong a twins?</p>
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		<title>By: ulong pare</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/swine-flue-a-commonsensical-view/comment-page-1#comment-61630</link>
		<dc:creator>ulong pare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 01:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... daaaang

... like swine flu, i travel thru web threads... exposing flips/flipflams goody-goody suckcesspool ooooopsie successful life (daw)...

... some reached their goals and lost their selves in the process...  others are/were unfortunate, nevertheless, sampakan pa rin yabang... a malady which swine flu has no match...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; daaaang</p>
<p>&#8230; like swine flu, i travel thru web threads&#8230; exposing flips/flipflams goody-goody suckcesspool ooooopsie successful life (daw)&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230; some reached their goals and lost their selves in the process&#8230;  others are/were unfortunate, nevertheless, sampakan pa rin yabang&#8230; a malady which swine flu has no match&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Primer</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/swine-flue-a-commonsensical-view/comment-page-1#comment-61591</link>
		<dc:creator>Primer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 23:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t worry Renato, it is crystal clear, that this stupid guy has long been betrayed all pretentions against ad hominem.  It is his only way out of the noose since his legal knowledge cannot even be let to shine in our FV horizon.  ____ naman kasi, eh.

Always, the easy way to seemingly win pseudo points, is &#039;attack the messenger, not the message&#039;.  As I am wont to repeat, _____ nga kasi.  San ba yan nagaral if I may use reyna elena here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t worry Renato, it is crystal clear, that this stupid guy has long been betrayed all pretentions against ad hominem.  It is his only way out of the noose since his legal knowledge cannot even be let to shine in our FV horizon.  ____ naman kasi, eh.</p>
<p>Always, the easy way to seemingly win pseudo points, is &#8216;attack the messenger, not the message&#8217;.  As I am wont to repeat, _____ nga kasi.  San ba yan nagaral if I may use reyna elena here?</p>
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		<title>By: Renato Pacifico</title>
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		<dc:creator>Renato Pacifico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 19:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Watch yo mouth, Bencard.  He&#039;s my long lost brada!!!!  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watch yo mouth, Bencard.  He&#8217;s my long lost brada!!!!  :)</p>
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