Comments on: The 2010 Derby

By: manuelbuencamino

manuelbuencamino — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 10:49:01 +0000

nashman,

the following peipole are dead and still running for office

1. Gibo Teodoro
2. Erap Estrada
3. Dick Gordon
4, Eddie Villanueva
5. Nick Perlas
6, Jc de los Reyes
7. Jamby Madrigal
8. Acosta

By: thenashman

thenashman — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 17:53:02 +0000

Memo to Planet Earth:

The following people ARE DEAD and not running for any elective post May 2010:

Ninoy Aquino
Corazon Aquino
Ferdinand Marcos

By: leytenian

leytenian — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 01:05:06 +0000

okay Lila, I can understand where you coming from. On Ninoy, i was sentimental when he died for his country at that time I was a child. I was naive and didn’t follow thru nor become a fan of his name. At this present time, I like to make my decision apart from my emotion. hope you understand as well….
pls try reading my reply to your question about national security ( starting at the gate)

By: Lila Shahani

Lila Shahani — Sat, 06 Feb 2010 22:34:19 +0000

Leytenian, it’s going to take more than a quote from the Ca t citing a book she had read somewhere to convince me or anyone else, I’m afraid. It’s always good to cite your sources and hers so we can all judge if they’re even empirical to begin with. After all, anyone can say anything: I could write in my blog that the earth is rectangular — so what? As with all things, u need to provide evidence when u make a claim.

On the face of it, it strikes me as an absurd claim. Ninoy and Cory didn’t HAVE to go against Marcos — they could have easily played ball if Luisita was their main concern. And Ninoy was not perfect, but he certainly changed after his lengthy detention. Judging by his letters to his children while in Fort Bonifacio (have u even read them?), it’s pretty clear that Ninoy genuinely loved the Philippines. Whatever side you happen to be on, you have to grant him at least that.

By: thenashman

thenashman — Sat, 06 Feb 2010 20:09:57 +0000

what’s the point of disturbing Cory Aquino from the grave???

She’s DEAD and NOT running for election.

By: leytenian

leytenian — Sat, 06 Feb 2010 18:27:59 +0000

correction

Is it reasonable for someone to stand in front of an oncoming train? No.

Is it reasonable for someone to risk his life for freedom?
by manuel buenca..

you mean to say that when Ninoy died, the citizens of the country gained freedom? Where’s freedom from Hacienda Luisita. Freedom is the human value, or situation, to act according to one’s will without being held up by the power of others but you don’t die for that.

So you also mean to say that Noynoy’s presidency will give freedom to this country? If that is your logic that Ninoy was reasonable to risk his life for freedom , what freedom are we talking about then. What if Marcos was the oncoming train?

By: leytenian

leytenian — Sat, 06 Feb 2010 18:25:30 +0000

Is it reasonable for someone to stand in front of an oncoming train? No.

Is it reasonable for someone to risk his life for freedom?

by manuel buenca..

you mean to say that when Ninoy died, the citizens of the country gained freedom? Where’s freedom from Hacienda Luisita. Freedom is the human value, or situation, to act according to one’s will without being held up by the power of others but you don’t die for that.

So you also mean to say that Noynoy’s presidency will give freedom to this country? If that is your logic that Ninoy was reasonable to risk his life for freedom , what freedom are we talking about then. What if Marcos was the ongoing train?

By: leytenian

leytenian — Fri, 05 Feb 2010 22:54:11 +0000

Lila,
point well taken. let me go back a bit to Ninoy’s limited history. Have you thought of Ninoy’s going back to the Philippines was for the purpose of protecting the interest of Hacienda Luisita?

and the cat had read somewhere:

I read from a book that Ninoy knew that Marcos was dying and he could not accept the scenario of having the other conjugal partner with a very loyal military at her beck and call to lead the nation

which storyline was the most reasonable?

What did Cory do during her term to return the favor to the poor? Did she honor even just 25% of HL be distributed to the poor as promised or as a condition to compensate the tired farmers? HL is as big as Makati and Pasig combined.

Result of good governance to a poor country must be measurable. A zero dividend paid to the farmers is not measurable and yet nobody cares…

By: leytenian

leytenian — Fri, 05 Feb 2010 22:26:40 +0000

there are some people who are like fish which when taken out from its natural habitat would not enjoy a luxurious swim even in a big aquarium

It can be interpreted as a selfish act rejecting the concept that risk is measurable. It maybe during Cory’s time that the reorganization of Hacienda Luisita had taken place in lull. The farmers who earlier have tendered their services should have been paid fairly. Assuming that Noynoy holds a minority share of HL, the value of his share can absolutely be distributed to the poor. AS MB said, Kris and Noynoy can afford without the Hacienda Luisita. To me that’s sincerely pro-poor if he had done so. Being pro-poor must be measurable and visible to the filipino people. What did Noynoy do in the Senate to facilitate the process of HL’s disagreement? Nothing ? maybe because Noynoy is never a true pro-poor.

If this is the model of personality that the filipino people believe can get them out of poverty, good luck Philippines. There’s no skillfulness nor ability that I see fit to the job description of an honest president. Honesty is not just about not stealing money. The practice of promising equity to labored and tired workers without consideration of its validity is a true definition of Corrupt Practices, Elitism and Conflict of Interest. Honesty is to take action to support the farmers. damn yellow. lol

By: The Ca t

The Ca t — Fri, 05 Feb 2010 19:43:25 +0000

leytenian,
My opinion is that, Ninoy was convinced that the price was too high to eliminate him. He must have thought that Marcos could not afford to make him a dead hero that may become the last straw to break the camel’s back. Besides, FVR was not the first to surround himself with international journalists for his protection, Ninoy was with some of them in the plane when they touched down in the airport. Who would have thought that the crime would be committed with all those cameras and videos recording the event?

I read from a book that Ninoy knew that Marcos was dying and he could not accept the scenario of having the other conjugal partner with the a very loyal military at her beck and call to lead the nation.

I personally believe that there are some people who are like fish which when taken out from its natural habitat would not enjoy a luxurious swim even in a big aquarium.