ABS-CBN Channel 2 just featured what it described as a scandalous incident in Bagac, Bataan where a group of young “half-naked “men were shot on film playing basketball. The video was reportedly taken last April 2008. Allegedly, it was during a festivity when those young boys did the “unthinkable”.
What ABS-CBN channel 2 deplored, especially self-absorbed moralist Karen Davila, was the fact that the boys were allegedly “coerced” by Bagac Mayor del Rosario. Reportedly, the boys were told that for every shot they make, they earn 1,000 pesos. At first, it was just 500 pesos per shot. But, for those who shoot the ball wearing nothing but their briefs, the mayor gave 1,000 bucks.
In defending himself, the Bagac mayor said that he was not the one who ordered it. But, that’s beside the point, really.
Is media turning to be a moralist crusader? I mean, it’s not really unusual to see half-naked boys playing basketball. When I was a teenager, I play ball with my fellow kanto boys wearing nothing but my briefs. And no one see anything wrong with that. We’re having fun doing it and that’s more important.
Is ABS-CBN acting like a prude? I see nothing wrong with young boys playing ball with only their briefs on. Come on guys! It’s normal to see half-naked boys playing basketball.
How about the “antics” of the mayor who gave money for every shot made by those boys? That’s exploitation. That’s immorality. And that’s scandalous.
Why, you little twerps. Is it really scandalous? Come on now. Is it unusual to see mayors giving money to young boys playing ball? No. It’s as normal as seeing the sun rise in the east and sets in the West. It’s a common practice in the cities and provinces all over the Philippines. We even do it in my small village in Antipolo City.
How about giving 1,000 pesos to boys wearing nothing but their briefs? That’s scandalous right? Come on, get real. It’s a common practice and the mayor did that because the basketball game was all for fun. Let’s not think beyond the facts. It was a fest. People are having fun. And everybody was in on it.
Is it really the job of ABS-CBN Channel 2′s to make a moral judgment about this? They devoted 1 minute and 30 seconds of reel for this one. Is ABS-CBN now donning a bishop’s cap and thinks that it is now responsible for the moral health of this nation?
Come on now, guys, get real.
It is not the responsibility of ABS-CBN to say that this is immoral and this one is not. In this issue, it went beyond its journalistic responsibility by already pre-judging the action of the mayor of Bagac. What if that act was a culturally-rooted one? That’s not immoral. That’s not illegal. Yet, ABS-CBN already prejudged the action by highlighting the angle that the mayor “exploited” those young men. Clearly, the mayor did not. They were part of the fun. If the people thought that it was really scandalous, then, why only now that they showed the video, a few months before the May 2010 elections? If that was really scandalous, people from Bagac would have complained about it a month or a few days after the incident. It took a year before the “scandalous” video was shown to the public.
What is so immoral and so scandalous is to allow entities or personalities to exploit us by saying that we can’t do this and we can do that. Whose to say that this thing is scandalous and this thing is not? Of course, the law ascribes it. But, was the act of the mayor violative of the law? Clearly, it was not.
It is a scandal and immoral when media entities go beyond their responsibilities and think of themselves as moral crusaders. When media entities start to prate and turn a blind eye on such naked show of immorality and scandalous behavior like what those Congressmen did in House Resolution 1109, that is worse than this Bagac video scandal.
When they don’t even report on those rip-offs made by Meralco heaped upon helpless consumers, that’s immoral. When they stay their hand and report not those billions earned by telecoms for eating up pre-paid loads, that’s a scandal. Scandalous even when they report stories peddling those justifications for price hikes from oil companies or when they kill stories on how Senator Manny Villar got his billions off the C-5 road project. These are the true scandals of our age.
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Whoever said that mass media is anything else but for profit?
In a Nudist Colony. They do that all the time. Maybe the Mayor is
planning to put up a Nudist Colony. Its a free country. I have
no ojection…
That video is a year old? Sobra na ang piga sa sex and morality issue started by Bong Revilla
Very well said! I, for one, don’t have any qualms in playing basketball…or any other kind of sport, totally naked..not just in my tighty-whities…but with no genital coverings whatsoever. Simply because, I have never programmed myself to believe in the rather “artificial” concept we built (invented) in hiding it. And I am too proud with my endowments. (Much to the chagrin of those who aren’t!)
The concept of “shame” upon one’s genitalia, is purely cultural…and emanates from insecurity, unresolved childhood familial concepts…and of course, the religious dictum, that it is “evil.” And we all know, such concept is merely a human invention…because, if “evil” be the point…then all other creatures are “evil” because they don’t submit to these concepts we invented in our societies. All other creatures should be required to wear briefs and panties…shouldn’t they?? [My pet Chuck, a Red Shining-parrot (Prosopeia tabuensis) would peck my eye-balls out if I require it to wear boxers!]
I believe, it originated from a certain ruler’s insecurity over the size of his penile apparatus. Having seen other guys with bigger injectable appendages hanging “in flagrante” while doing a tribal clan dance, he became concerned with his own size…so, he made a law (and all other scary marketing ploys) that the genitalia be now hidden from public view…(that it may not corrupt people, and of course, add to his insecurity over his little woody). And we all know, that is baseless and merely a traditional concept that other suckers forced themselves to submit to. It is the concept that we built around it…that made it “corrupt.” And more corrupt, is the idea of raising an uproar whenever another person is seen “naked.”
Good Heavens! Nature does not require the human being any clothing. Babies are born without it. Even the Bible (for the religious prudes out there) created man without any form of covering. It is, in fact, the concept of clothing that hampered man’s evolutionary adaptation with his environment. And not only so, it gave rise to concepts of “pornography,” “lust” and all other “evils”/by-products attached in hiding it.
Does a dog or a cat lust for each other’s genitalia?? No. They don’t. They have mating seasons. Lust is merely a concept. It will consume you and take its true form if you believe in it. It is the concept, which is flawed then. Surround yourself with naked people on a daily basis (devoid of any cultural programming) and you would hardly care at all about it.
You’re definitely correct brod! I realized that when i joined the oblation run. I was able to get rid of my inhibitions after that. I am not concerned anymore whether my thing is small and dark. I am proud of it and i am happier with what happened. However, i still continue to behave the way society is dictating but i am not against nudity. It’s liberating after all!
Laughs…you know naman, us, Isko’s…we really take our iconic Fernando Poe Sr. oblation-statue to heart.
I think, the sculpture was right…complete freedom is liberation from one’s own self-made prisons, from one’s own fears, prejudices, demons and monsters. Freedom is inner autonomy, or mastery over one’s inner condition. And contrary to popular belief, that when a human is completely “free,” he becomes an “outlaw” and a menace…I think not. Even classical philosophers will side with me on this. The human being, devoid of all external programming, is pure and capable of loving automatically. He is instinctively protective and socially empathetic. He is able to discern and has the ability to act independently on both the dictates of reason and the urges of desires…even without any external programming. It’s impregnated in our DNA’s actually.
Most of the external rules/concepts and accouterments we applied on the human being has made us so artificial and totally alien from our true nature…thus we hampered our natural evolution and have remained as pathetic and frail creatures to our environments. We created so many things to fear from or to conform to…like the Boogey-man, “manners” and the fires of hell. (This reminds me of M. Night Shyamalan’s movie, The Village)
I believe our beloved alma matter has produced enough competent graduates now who could really conduct an operational social experiment on the human condition and the novelty theory…which may help our legislators streamline (or should I say, clean-up) our rather Spanish-Slavery-laced constitution… You will agree with me, that Rizal, detected already how the law and religion was used to enslave us…
As a postscript, basketball is best balled, I mean played, in the nude with minimum lighting. My folks played it once…and presto!…i’m the by-product of that sport.
mtagal na pla ang vedeo na yan bat ngaun lang lumabas?
Just in case, we will consider animals as lewd and evil… Do you think, if my dogs were evil, that I would know about it?
If they are lazy, I can see it. And if they are stupid, I can tell by way of their responses to various stimuli (including training).
And when people are evil, they might not explicitly share it (that is, include it in their ‘hobbies’ space in their Facebook profile), but it might present itself implicitly or unintentionally (fortuitously if you happen to be a superhero) in conversation.
But if a dog were evil, and simply cogitating – patiently and discreetly – on hatching their next great nefarious plan for riches and power, how would I ever know? It’s not as though it would come up in a random drunken-confession-riddled conversation one night on the way home… Right?
I guess, well said, Pat although if you can have less of your ‘emotional anger’, this blog of yours could have carried less words likewise. Please don’t get me wrong.
I know you are one of the brave bloggers of this oft-doomed human folly.
Primer,
” . . . oft doomed human folly.”
Thanks for the laugh. It is that at times. I strive mightily to keep a sense of humor, otherwise lunacy might set in . . .
Joe
oh yeah, of course you will have fun doing it. do you have a pic to show for me to see if I will like it. :)
hehehehe! you want to see me in my naked glory?
sure Pat, do you look like Hayden when you were less than 30? email it to me. I am excited and curious .. LOL. :)
lol…
oh leytenian,
You are making me laugh. Sure you’re not busy this morning, hum…
lol, no it’s PM here in Florida. EST time zone. Now is 7:20 PM
Pat is funny too.
seriously, boys who wear briefs while playing can be interpreted more like the sons of tarzan. I mean that backward. Unless it was customary event done every year. In the modern world, it can be interpreted as sexually offensive to others. When others are offended, any authorities in command ( the mayor-for example) can be liable to moral issues regardless if the mayor denies the approval or not. It is therefore a risk for being NEGLIGENT while in public service.
Every government official or employees must be a role model and should conform to their highest moral conduct while in public office. This is where people should demand and sue the mayor for being negligent. This is one example of participative democracy.
But others may interpret it the other way.
Love it when there are fun exchanges for a change. Agree folks?
This reminds me of something that happened a few weeks back. Boy Abunda in ‘The Buzz’ pontificated on the Hayden Kho-Katrina Halili scandal and said something to this effect: that the more people talk about it, that the more people watch the videos, the more these people contribute to make the issue worse…and hence he encouraged everybody to stop making the issue worse by not watching the videos.
The next day, though, his other television show covered the Hayden Kho scandal and he himself indulged in moralizing, in his usual bombastic “SUsunod” voice.
And I thought Bong Revilla was already a problem. Oh, wait, we still have Laguardia…can we at least start get ridding of her as well?
Am with you here, leytenian.
Public officials by definition must be held to higher standard of conduct.
But methinks the real issue here is about how the teenagers were allegedly offered money to play ball clad only in their briefs in full view of others Bagac townsfolk.
http://midfield.wordpress.com/2009/06/17/bataan-youths-offered-money-to-play-ball-half-naked/
Still, Pat has a point on the mass media taking on moralist tones and how certain outlets have their own sacred cows, read: they know on which side their bread is buttered.
yeah that can be an issue too but what if no player will come forward that money has been offered? legally, the mayor cannot be prosecuted because there’s no solid evidence of money especially if it was paid in cash. It sounds like the crimes in high places ?
maybe, the best legal approach is to sue the mayor for being Negligent of his legal duty? the mayor may have no other defense under the principle of command authority or legal duty within his township jurisdiction.
As for the media, it might be too advance for those who live in the mountains who carries their boobs over their shoulders :) or too advance for tarzan?
command authority? where’s the idiots who voted for said mayor?
LOL.
In fairness to Bagac, though, it’s fairly exposed to local and foreign tourists.
If you care to, here’s my take on the brouhaha:
http://midfield.wordpress.com/2009/06/17/bataan-youths-offered-money-to-play-ball-half-naked/
what were the charges filed against the Mayor before the Ombudsman? who were the complainants? the moralist, the people someone) or the two boys?
assuming there was an offer, why did the two boys agree to play in the first place? are they of legal age?
the complainants will matter in this case.
out of 20 players and only two boys came forward then it terms of what’s reasonable , the two boys are a minority in numbers. meaning, the team agreed to the offer. But if OTHER people or even just one spectator disagreed for moral reason, then the mayor may have no legal avenue of defense regardless if he ordered it or not. It was his legal duty to conform to what’s currently acceptable as moral and ethical. ( CURRENT- Modern) The moralist media may be right? But what if the whole town is made of tarzan and jane? :) lol
meralco is not relevant to this year old issue. it’s simply an awareness between old and the new. so the mayor is free? then the blog remains in favor of tarzan and jane :)
we have to evolve
Laws (specifically, rights) were made to protect the “minority” and NOT the majority. Example: The majority of humans have two feet, hence, we never made laws that protected those two bipedal apparatus…but there are people who are handicapped (those who lost either one or both their two functional limbs), and hence, we have made laws that will protect these minority. Anything shared by all, need no protection…because it will never come to a point where that “commonality” will ever be threatened.
In most cases, however, due to individual differences and the unclassifiable nature of humans and their attitudes, a given law makes every individual a “minority,” simply because it does not apply to that given individual, hence, the law finds it difficult to bind itself to such.
And more unjust when we inflict upon another a certain tenet or rule that we could neither apply to ourselves. That becomes an unjust law–a code that a numerical or power majority group compels a minority group to obey but does not make binding on itself.
Conversely, a minority may also sway the unjustness of the whole, by imposing also upon the majority the rights/laws and morals it regards as “good” and ideal but could hardly fulfill nor apply to one’s self.
higher standards of conduct, I meant.
Pat sounds more like a classic dirty old man and leytenian sort of wanting to go through some ‘seduction blues’? Is it fun time?
bakit dindayo ang oblation run at kinokober pa ng abs cbn,taga up ba si karen devila?
who says that what the mayor did is immoral or not? who are they to judge? whoever brings the ‘scandal’ out only puts bagac in a shameful situation
it’s all about politics folks! i called a number of friends in bagac bataan and ask about this mayor del rosario. According to them this said mayor is actually being taken advantage of for being too nice by these oppositions who still upset about the lost of the previous leader or mayor. like i said folks it’s just politics!
Here in Passi City, we have a celebration where young men as members of a street dancing competition wear only loin cloth to cover their private part. Naka tback lang slang lahat. Some even shave their pubic hair so as not to be exposed in public. And nobody sees that wrong. It’s part of the tradition and celebration. Please come every 3rd or 4th sunday of March and witness this big event
the complainant is aspiring for vice mayor in 2010.the video that was shown was edited.they made it appear that town plaza is jumpacked with people.it took a year before the scandalous video was shown to the public
pulitika lang un.pinapagulo nila eva ang bagac kaya pinapabagsak nila si mayor ramil.sana tumulong na lang sila magserve sila sa bagac wag puro paninira.dahil kay mayor nagkaron ng college dito un ba ang immoral?sangguniang bayan palingkuran nyo kaming nga taga bagac
mga konsehal ng bagac ang gumagawa ng tensyon dito sana bayan ang isipin nyo wag ang partido nyo… mr m tumulong ka sa ikakabuti wag sa ikakasama ng bayan mo
sa issue na to di si mayor ang sinisira at pinapahiya nyo kundi ang bagac.dahil sa kasakiman at sariling interes ng sb ang isyung matagal na, makapagpasaya at makatulong ay ginawang negatibo para gamitin sa kanilang masamang hangarin..tsk tsk tsk wag sanang paguluhin ng ilang tao ang tahimik na bayan ng Bagac
PUNTA KAU SA BAGAC.TANONG NYO KUNG GANO KASIPAG,KABAIT DALI LAPITAN MAYOR NAMEN.OUR MAYOR IS BEING TAKEN ADVANTAGE NG MGA KALABAN NYA SA PULITIKA.D2 PO KAU MAG INTERVIEW NG MGA TUNAY NA MGA TAGA BAGAC….
nakakahanga naman si eva kasi ng stand up cya sa kabataan hoy! tigas ng mukha! mo sariling barngay mo nga hindi mo natulugan ng paliga ng basket ball tanungin mo sarili mo eva kung para sa kabataan ka o pansariling intires mo ngaung darating na 2010 iniicip mo? anu ba nagawa mo sa brgy. mo? sa bayan ng BAGAC malaking kahihiyaan . kung magaling ka lilinisin mo muna bakuran mo bago ang mas malaking bakuran na gusto mong tahakin. akoy isang lihitimong KABATAAN NG BAYAN NG BAGAC
actually, mj is correct! mga naninira lang yang mga yan.. naunahan kasi sila ni mayor sa gimik na un, and nakita nila ang saya na nadulot ni mayor.. i’m not really on the side of MAYOR, but dun sa mga nagplay na naka video.. bakit kelangan pa ilabas sa bagac un diba? kung sino man naglabas nun, inggit kasi wala xa dun, hindi xa nakapaglaro! hahaha besides, kung me reklamo KA, edi sana on the spot kinonfront mu si mayor na mali ung ginagawa nya diba?! maghanap pa daw ba ng kakampi eh noh,ABS-CBN pa! kapamilya pa nmn ako.. and to think, bagaceños are all KAPAMILYAS!! TOO BAD ABS..
PUNTA KAU SA BAGAC.TANONG NYO KUNG GANO KASIPAG,KABAIT DALI LAPITAN MAYOR NAMEN.OUR MAYOR IS BEING TAKEN ADVANTAGE NG MGA KALABAN NYA SA PULITIKA.D2 PO KAU MAG INTERVIEW NG MGA TUNAY NA MGA TAGA BAGAC….
Napupulitika lang ang Mayor ng Bagac..
The scandal happened last April 1,2008, ginusto ng mga kabataan na mag basketball wearing only their briefs…
sana yung 5 konsehal isipin nila ang bayan ng bagac hindi ang partido nila…
sana sa mga tiga Bagac maging mapamili ng mga konsehal sa susunod na eleksyon, yung kapakanan ng Bagac ang ksnilang iisipin at hindi pang sarili lamang nila..
It’s PERSONNAL POLITICAL MOVE (Dakilang Tanga Naman!), pumasok ang nagbalita (Naging ignorante para may ibalita laang. Tignan ninyo nga ang antas ng “BILL OF RIGHTS” kaysa “FREEDOM OF SPEECH” malalaman mo kung saan ka nababagay). Dumating ako sa Bagac, walang ilaw ang mga poste sa daan (dahil nagaaway-away “daw” ang mga councillor). Taong bayan mismo na siyang nagpapasahod sa mga taong nasa puwesto ay siya ring naghihirap sa mga kagulangan at pagiging ignorante ng mga taong dapat magsilbi sa bayan. KUNG SINO MAN ANG PINAGSIMULAN NG ISYO NA ITO, SANA INISIP MO NA UNG PERANG PANLABAN NG INAKUSAHAN MO AY IKAW AT AKO PA RIN ANG MAGBABAYAD (SA PAMAMAGITAN NG BUWIS)sa mga panahon na nililitis, NANDAMAY KA pa.
meron po bang pinilit na sila pa mismo ang masaya?
sila pa po ang nagtatawanan…
meron po bang pinilit na may sumasayaw pa…
at meron po bang napilitan lang dahil walang pera at pagkatapos lahat ng kasama pinakain sa isang lugawan sa bagac?
Sa ganang akin, pulitika man o hindi ang tunay na isyu ay kung marapat para mga opisyal na konsintihin ang paglalaro ng mga menor de edad nang halos walang saplot.
Ang mga nakatatanda ang siya dapat magturo ng tamang asal sa halip na gawing katawa-tawa ang sitwasyong wala sa lugar.
Puntong dapat siyasating kung bakit lumutang muli ang video at sa panig ng ABS-CBN dapat silang nagfollow-up sa halip na pagbatayan ang bersyon ng dalawang binatilyo na sinamahan ni Atty. Hgarry Roque.
Ano pa man, may panamagutan pa ring sa pangyayari ang mga sangkot na opisyal.
Pwede ba ako ang sumagot para sa mga binatilyo? Kasi bata pa naman ako…at mainit-init pa…I mean…hottt…
Tama ba na konsintihin ang paghuhubad? Siguro yun ang pinakadiretso na tanong…hindi lang ang halos walang saplot…kundi yung paghuhubad na lang…
Ang tanong ko naman ay… Tama ba na magdikta tayo sa isang tao na mali ang walang damit? Tama ba na nag-imbento tayo ng “konsepto” na ang paghuhubad ay “masama” o “malaswa” o “mahalay” o di kaya ay “eeeckiee/yuckie/eeevil/eeeeew!”?
Tama ba na pinalitan natin ng sariling imbensyon ang isang bagay na sadya namang “natural” at walang masama? At tawagin natin ito na pang-aabuso?? O prostitusyon? O kahalayan?
Isa lang ang sagot ko diyan… SAYS WHO?!! Who the f*ck ever invented the concept is a f*cking insecure moron and a slave of the system who cannot think for him/herself but a sycophant of an age-old slavery!
Ang damit ay imbensyon lamang ng tao. Gaya ito ng sombrero at sapatos o di kaya ay kuwintas at singsing… Tanong: Tama ba na kapag di ka nag kuwintas o nagsuot ng singsing o sapatos…mahalay ka? O masama? O na-aabuso? O bastos?
Kung walang saplot ang tao…ito ay bastos??! Tingnan natin kung sino ang nag-imbento ng konsepto ngayon… Ang simbahan…
Pwes, magsimba tayo at lumuhod sa “krus”… magmuni-muni, magdasal at mag-isip ng malalim…pansinin kung anu ang nakatambad sa ating mga mata…hindi ba isang tao na gawa sa kahoy at walang saplot na nakapako sa krus??? Bastos ba ito at mahalay at “eeevil”?
Isa lang ang masasabi ko “Ipokrito ang mga ‘nagmamalinis’.”
Maraming imbensyon ang tao…mga konsepto na di naman ankop sa kaniyang pagkatao…at ito ay pilit nating ipinatutupad para sa lahat kahit alam naman natin sa ating mga sarili na di natin ito masunod at di ito ankop sa tunay na pagiging “tao”…pero pilit pa rin nating ipinipilit at di lang yun…pilit tayong uma-asa at nagaakalain na masusunod ito at ankop para sa iba…At ni minsan di man lang natin tinanong kung ankop ba talaga ang pilit na ipinasusunod sa atin…
We have far too long been programmed as f*cking morons to blindly obey… And I’m sorry, I am nobody’s dog or trainable machine. Before we require others something and manipulate their actions with our silly concepts, make sure it does apply to our person and that it is indeed natural to man. Because the human being would continue to rebel against it and break it…simply because our genetic imprint (which is our real programming) would continue to go back to its more primal nature. We end up frustrated as a whole because we insist upon the creature something that is really alien to his/her nature.
hindi po kinunsinti ang mga kabatang ito. 2 lang ang mga kabataang ginamit ng mga nanggugulo para pabagsakin ang bagac kontra sa 9 na kabataang handang sabihin ang tunay na katotohanan…tignan po natin ang kredibilidad ng 2 panig bago tau mag akusa.wag malinis ate eva ang walang kasalanan ang maunang bumato..ulit po di sila kinunsinti at inutusan ni mayor ramil
We have invented the “rights” and the “wrongs.”
Unfortunately, the inventions we injected into the system are simply not in-synch with the human being (which it requires or expects to obey/fulfill).
This is similar to requiring all plants to be “red”…because “Green” is evil or wrong or bad…naturally, plants would fail it, because they are naturally green. We are requiring too much from the human being…and that only led to all of our miseries, conflict, strife, insecurities, confusions, ill-health, suicides, unrest and higher “crime” rates.
Let us promote progress and everybody’s happiness…do away with all these “kaetchosan of morality” if it only leads to misery and suffering. Life is too fragile and short…I wonder, why we are generally sadists and tax/overburden the human being too much until they break and collapse. It is the “human” that we should value. And NOT the inventions (and supposed “ideals”) we layered upon him/her to meet.
TAma po kayo.
We must understand…that all those who invented these kaetchosan on morality are all “dead”…and read your history please…they were far from being “happy”…nor did they lived happily…or even died happily too!
And I am the last person in the planet to submit to anything that doesn’t make me or the general public (and even the minority) happy. It is pointless to insist on something that simply cannot be met nor fulfilled…because it causes people suffering and misery and limits their own enlightenment, enjoyment and discovery of this “life” or “reality” we call.
It is clear that both law and morality can serve to channel our behavior. Law attains this mainly by way of sanctions and punishment if we ignore legal rules. Morality too requires encouragements; bad acts may result in blame and condemnation, and goods act in righteous emotions and admiration.
When the country’s morality and rule of law cannot regulate the manner and behavior of public officials , subsequently we are far from achieving our potential.
There are reasonable conduct done by reason. this “basketball naked glory thingy” is beyond reason. It is a wowoweee.. :)
LOL
In addition, it’s not politics but it’s about understanding morality and the rule of law. IMHO, the mayor’s conduct and behaviour should not be encouraged. He has the duty to exercise his best judgement if the event locally may have implication and consequence in relation to the whole country’s ailing morality.
What’s acceptable and known to our society are festivals like those you see in Sinulog Cebu where contestants wear ” bahags”, body paints and exotic underwears. When behaviour and conduct is only enjoyed , accepted and limited locally like in a township, then it is a minority ( not reasonable) compared to the whole country.
Maybe, Bagac Bataan should start branding this event to promote awareness of its own “township accepted behaviour? ” to the whole country. Will see if they will gain the support of majority? Maybe?
The media moralist is right and I share her view. :)
hindi tinolerate ni mayor un wag ka sanang maging judgmental.
MJ, don’t get me wrong. I am Pro-Nudity. I know, to the eye of the sexually-repressed prudish creature, that is a very progressive (if not, hellishly damnable) idea…but that is MY choice. And this choice is based on the studies conducted in societies where Nudity is not a “taboo”…in such societies, the concept of rape was absent and so are all other “evils” attached to “lewdness” and “lust” and other silly concepts we invented over human sexuality. Now, if your system is not yet prepared for such ideology because of your much primitive (albeit, limiting and repressive) culture/religion/belief-system, I respect yours.
I never discussed the mayor or even the basketball players, simply because, I was not there when that happened. And whatever their reasons for their own actions, I respect those as well. If one party says he was aggrieved, we have competent courts to settle those.
I am simply saying that nothing is immoral about nudity itself. Your genitals are NOT evil. It’s NOT baaaad! It’s not something you should be ashamed of or something you should hide. And also, for purposes of the “Law,” the word “Moral” and “Immoral” be stricken from the constitution and the Revised Penal Code (and other legal codes) altogether. Because it has caused ambiguity and confusion both among the litigants and the courts.
Why? Because it cannot be measured. What may be “immoral” to you…may not be “immoral” to another. The word itself is based on individual perception. And time and again, it is used as a legal backdoor…it is a hole in the system, due to its ambiguity.
So you are saying, that clothes are moral…and the lack of which is its reverse? And that such “lackness” is detrimental to the health of a society? (By whatever system of supposition it may have been conceptualized from.)
Very well, based on such assumption, I propose all newly born babies be jailed and all other humans caught without clothes be jailed as well.
We simply cannot label something as immoral…simply because, such term has no basis and measurable form. It is that blanket term…which is dangerous. Because we could wantonly apply that word to anything we “perceive” as “immoral.”
Morality and immorality…is an artificial construct. It has no true meaning nor relative set of elements under it.
And based on such assumption also, since you are implying that clothes is a MUST, and its absence is a threat to the state, then it is the state’s responsibility to cloth its inhabitants. It should be a “right” then… Every individual must be entitled to a clothing allowance from its government.
When we impose things, we should provide the avenue as well that such requirement is truly met.
At kung siguro susuriin niyo kung ano ang mga “lifestyle” ng mga ibang nasa ABS-CBN, in the context of “moral” and “morality” e.g. kabit ni ganito o ni ganoon, ka-live-in ni ganito o ni ganoon, etc. etc. – baka mapabunghalit ka ng “hoy! tingnan mo muna kung gaano kahaba ang sarili mong buntot, bago mo pansinin kung gaano kahaba ang buntot ng kapuwa mo!!”
Vavoo!
The term “moral” is an invention of the earlier eras of society. It is supposedly based on the theory of “Good” and “Evil.”
“Good” is a broad concept and is difficult to define (because every society, culture and religious orientation defines it differently), but typically it deals with an association with 1.) life, 2.) continuity, 3.) happiness, 4.) desirability, or 5.) human flourishing.
Based on such criteria, I find nothing about “nakedness” violative of Life, nor would it cause any harm upon another creature…besides hypothermia or colds, if you were out in the snow. It is the twisted concept that we invented upon it…that it is “corrupt” and “lewd” that made it soo “evil.”
Review the histories of the prudish societies who invented such concept…and tell me, if they were “good” based on their definitions of the word “good.” Clearly, this is simply a hypocrisy. It has caused more trouble because we invented constructs like such.
opinyon lang po mula sa taal na taga Bagac.Hindi naman maituturing na scandal kung hindi na medya.Kaya ito namedya ay dahil sa political agenda ng kalabang partido.Para sa mga taga Bagac,no big deal ito dahil all for fun lang ang naging activity(>than 1 yr old na nga ito nangyari),may palaro,may festivity.May sariling style ng humor ang mga taga bagac,kami’y likas na kasat(naughty but no necessarily in a bad way.Ours is a sleepy town pero di naman ito naive at di rin ito intolerant sa kalaswaan.One has to be a Bagakeno para maintindihan kung bakit sa amin yun ay no big deal.Simple lang naman ang formula:kalabang partido na hindi makahintay ng eleksyon,naghanap ng butas para madethrone ang current leader,tumawag ng media & there u have it:sensationalism at its best.
What are you guys talking about? Your subject of genitalia exposure is so out of the point. We are talking about a town MAYOR here with half naked minors in public. Exposing yourself in public is against the law. If these minors are being encouraged by the the town leader with his act of paying them to play hoops in their undies, what are they learning from that? There were little girls and little boys present during that incident. Again, what are they seeing and learning from that? If I would have to agree with the two of you- then there should be no censorship in movies with sex and violence contents? We are talking about the Mayor- a public figure, a role model, a teacher. WE should teach our children to be moral and descent in any way. I do understand na hinde tayo malisyoso when we see minors playing half naked, but when there is a role model encouraging it- it is beyond the point.
I remember when I was a child there was this man (Im not sure if he is still alive) that live across the elementary school who exposed himself to children, sometimes he was touching himself, sometimes he will just show “it” out his window. I’m not really sure why nobody care. Was it because he is part of a well-known, rich, big family in my town. Or was it because of what the two of you are saying- that it is ok. Do you even have any idea what happened to the girls and boys that had experienced seeing “his” or him doing “it”? Oh by the way Mr. Patricio- that guy was a RELATIVE of the mayor-
ang OA niu nmn .. .panis n un ai. .nilagay niu lang s sobrang khihiyan ang Bagac, ahoy anu b yan!taga Bagac din kc ako,wag nmn sn masyado pasamain c Ramil. . kitang kita ang motibo, POLITIKA. .ang aga pa. . .SOBRA KAYO. .. .GRRRRRR. . .
Im not from bagac but what Ive seen on TV I think their news researcher didnt make an ellaborated research. they only rely from heresays of complainants and side of the plaintiff. But where are the voices of other people who are not bias either of one party.
I know all of these are political motives, lets face the truth its not only Bagac who suffers from these malicious acts but most of the places here in the Philippine archipelago… These news doesnt help the country grow! Instead of having a crab mentality I hope that citizen should help their leaders to achieve their goal instead.
These news will surely die as time passes by… Please respect our leaders who give their time and effort.
This is issue is such a garbage… so just dump it.
Give a chance for Mayor of Bagac to prove that he’s doing his job, outreaching the people from coast to mountaineous place of bagac.. Leave him alone!
sa 5 SB at kay Eva kung ayaw nyo pong tulungan si Mayor wag nyo na lang syang guluhin, pagtrabahuhin nyo ang tao kung ayaw nyong magserbisyo di yang sobrang pamumulitika nyo ayan tuloy pinasok nyo kami sa kahihiyan na kau ang may gawa hindi lang si Mayor pinapahiya ninyo kundi kaming mga taga Bagac…
Kaung 5 SB at Eva ang dapat kondenahin sa panggugulo nyo.. Pero sa isang banda nakatulong ito para magkaisa at magtulungan kami para sa susunod na botohan ay wag kayong iboto hidi serbiyong bayan ang gusto nyo kundi guluhin ang bayan…
KUNG AYAW NYONG TUMULONG SA MAYOR WAG NYO NA LANG GULUHIN!!!!!
Tanong ko lang bakit naman napahiya ang Bagac? Akala ko ba from reading other commnets na this thing is very normal part of pinoy culture?
Akala ni capt. Eva babango sya sa ginawa nya.
ang kapal naman ng muka mo para sabihin na concerned ka sa kabataan
bulok ang style mo capt. Eva!!!!!!!!!!!
ang isang katulad mo ay hindi nararapat bilang isang public official
isama mo na yung 5 konsehal nyo…
nakakaawa ang Bayan ng BAGAC sa inyo
the mayor of bagac did not set a good example.
y did u say that?so eva and the 5 sb are good examples?manggulo ang alam nila..
u must know the real story first b4 u make a judgment.look at the bright side kasi, tumulong at nagpasaya ang mayor di sya after sa pahuhubad and besides hindi sya ang nag utos na magbrief.and 1 thing u must understand that bagac is a basketball crazy town, we love everything about basketball.some people(players) do it in their own way, in their own style para maging iba na ok naman dahil di naman totally nude pero muli HINDI TINOLERATE NI MAYOR UN kaso pumasok ang mga moralista at mga malinis na tao for their own interest..
dapat ba natin kondenahin ang mga players na naghubad at ang mayor? o ang mga TAONG AYAW MAGLINGKOD SA BAYAN KUNDI ANG HANGAD AY PAGKAKAHATI HATI AT PANGGUGULO SA BAYAN.
walang magtatanggol sa bagac kundi tayong mga taga Bagac pero may ilang tao na nais ipahiya at sirain ang bagac dahil lamang sa pamumulitika.tunay ba na pagmamalasakit sa bayan ang pakay nyo?
BALANGA CITY, Bataan — Inirekomenda kahapon ng Sangguniang Panlalawigan (SP) ng Bataan kay Gov. Enrique “Tet” Garcia ang agarang pagpapataw ng 60-day preventive suspension laban sa limang miyembro ng Sangguniang Bayan (SB) ng Bagac kaugnay ng kasong adiministratibo na isinampa laban sa kanila ni Bagac municipal Mayor Ramil del Rosario.
Sa ginanap na regular session ng SP, inaprubahan ng mga ito ang pagpasa ng isang resolusyon para patawan ng dalawang buwang suspensyon ang mga konsehal ng Bagac na sina Noel del Rosario, Mercedita Arellano, Daniel Banzon, Larry Bantugan at Guillermo Mendoza Jr., para maiwasan na maimpluwensyahan ng mga ito ang isasagawang imbestigasyon sa kasong dereliction of duty, gross misconduct at abuse of authority na isinampa laban sa kanila ni Del Rosario alinsunod na rin sa section 63 ng Republic Act 7160 o Local Government Code of 1991.
And your point is? that the Mayor was not guilty of any misconduct just because Tet Garcia said so? Tet Garcia is the Mayor’s Congressman, they are of the same party- siempre politics!
tama ka carmen!!! natumbok mo.. pulitika at siempre kakampi eh… kaya gagawa at gagawa ng paraan para maabswelto sa kahihiyang.. hindi tinotolerate ni mayor??? eh kitang kita sa video nakatawa pa sila . at mismo yung marshal pa nila ang nag aabot ng bola sa mga bata!!! uy d29 taga bagac ka ba? eh yung mayor mo eh tag balanga ay d b?