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The Chicken and The Egg Paradox

May 2nd, 2009 by cocoy

Manny Pacquiao is a singularity. Even before this Pacquiao-Hatton fight, we can feel Pacquiao’s event horizon pull everything in. Philippine Government business in Congress now stands still as Las Vegas becomes the center of the Philippine universe. And when the bell is rung in Las Vegas and Manny Pacquiao and Ricky Hatton trade blows, the rest of the Philippines will stand still. One must understand that for a nation as fractured as the Philippines, rivalries are put on hold: standing by Manny Pacquiao, who has reached the pinnacle of his dream and his ambition is rare is the common denominator. It makes Manny Pacquiao, a hero.

Freddie Roach and Manny Pacquiao by Frederick Manligas Nacino

Freddie Roach and Manny Pacquiao by Frederick Manligas Nacino

You know the communication tool called Twitter right? You’ve seen it raved on CNN. Twitter founder Biz Stone was on The Colbert Report and I’ve pretty much pimped it in my posts. Twitter, Apple (yes the iPod and Mac maker) calls it:

Twitter’s meteoric rise to ubiquity is proof positive that the world, in all its complexity, is eager to embrace simplicity. Wielding more impact on social networking than most communication tools this generation has yet seen, Twitter is one of those universal phenomena where the product name self-conjugates. To engage with Twitter is to “tweet.”

Anyway, yesterday, I was on deck as @FilipinoVoices on twitter when I retweeted @jmalonzo’s tweet:

SAD but true: RT @JeromeGotangco: Lennox Lewis knows Philippine politics: http://tr.im/kbDh #boxing (via @jmalonzo)

What, you think the bot’s always on? Anyway, long story short @jmalonzo reply makes a good point:

@filipinovoices I don’t see why he can’t be a president. Becoming one and being a good one is different.

This isn’t beyond the realm of posibility: one day, Manny Pacquiao could be a President of the Republic of the Philippines. It isn’t a question whether or not Filipinos see Pacquiao as a Hero, nor is it a question whether or not he can effectively run a campaign on the national level. Ultimately, in my humble opinion boils down to, a question of leadership. Let me explain.

A few days ago, Connie Veneracion asked Political commentary: high brow entertainment or pseudo-intellectual masturbation? I can certainly understand where she comes from:

“We already know who they are against – they make that very clear in a very redundant manner – but what do these self-proclaimed guardians of freedom and democracy believe in and what are they willing to fight for? While they never seem to run out of criticisms, they fail to realize that any criticism is only as good as the counter proposal it seeks to promote. Without that counter proposal – without that bright idea as to how things ought to be done – then, political commentary is nothing but huffing and puffing, a form of high brow entertainment, pseudo-intellectual masturbation or all of that.”

Our national life is all sound and fury, signifying nothing. So much so that regardless whether you believe or not the story of Jun Lozada is immaterial or if you remember him at all. Whether or not you think Jun Lozada is a sacrificial lamb or that there is a bit of Jun Lozada in you.

Nothing substantial happens.

I want to add something equally important and related. It is something Manolo Quezon was thinking about regarding revolutions and why they fail in the Philippines:

And yet, the overwhelming number of our people stubbornly insist on political solutions to economic and social problems: the ballot remains the magic bullet. For its adherence to this view, the public is portrayed as either selfish, or silly, or even suicidal. But what if the people are right? And those insisting on the other solutions are wrong? As Rizal asked, what then?

What if they’re both wrong?

If revolutions have failed then equally, the magic bullet of the ballot has likewise failed. Election in and election out: nothing substantial happens. Look at our Republic’s history, not just our recent past. Look at the dynamics of our local government and separately our national government. Our politics on every level is an aristocracy masking itself as a democracy. Politicians run for public office for these things: name recognition; influence; to maintain family interest; to protect and grow their wealth. Civil Society and the Filipino middle-class for all their rage and fury, for all the talk of morality and ethics, for all their grumbling at the state of affairs of our national life in front of the evening news or Sunday paper, neither are prepared for the responsibility of changing the game.

The scary part is, maybe our people actually like the high brow entertainment and pseudo-intellectual masturbation. Most certainly it doesn’t interest our people to care about the effect of zombie oligarchs half a world away. They don’t care about banks negotiating stress tests. For one thing, the fall of Chrysler most certainly does not affect the lives of Filipinos, so why bother to know about that company filing for chapter 11?

Can you expect people to care about The Color of Doubt is Gray? How about the Presumptuousness of Uninnocence?

Laughable why a no brainer question such as will Congressmen going to Las Vegas for the Pacquiao-Hatton fight be quarantined if they get flu symptoms was ever asked. Maybe we should stop and look at Understanding Influenza and look at how the numbers compare to in this map prepared by the Wall Street Journal that mark cases around the world. Of course, it doesn’t hurt to be prepared, so keep updated through the CDC and the WHO and let health care professionals do their job even as alarming as the word “pandemic” might be for people:

The World Health Organization (WHO) provides an influenza pandemic alert system, with a scale ranging from
Phase 1 (a low risk of a flu pandemic) to Phase 6 (a full-blown pandemic):
• Phase 1: A virus in animals has caused no known infections in humans.
• Phase 2: An animal flu virus has caused infection in humans.
• Phase 3: Sporadic cases or small clusters of disease occur in humans. Human-to-human transmission, if any, is insufficient to cause community-level outbreaks.
• Phase 4: The risk for a pandemic is greatly increased but not certain.
• Phase 5: Spread of disease between humans is occurring in more than one country of one WHO region.
• Phase 6: Community-level outbreaks are in at least one additional country in a different WHO region from phase 5. A global pandemic is under way.

As imperfect as the system in place is, they got our back you know?

Another scary thought is this. Maybe our people aren’t prepared to go beyond our provincial attitude. Maybe we can’t see the world with open eyes. Fellow Filipino Voices contributor Nick Nichols [Asian Energy Advisors blog] was in Kabul, Afghanistan recently on business. He has been tweeting about his experience [his son has summed up his tweets] with observations like this:

Kabul is a devastated city. I was shocked at the devastation. I can only imagine what this city was once like.

Maybe we can only see how bad it is, not how we can make it a better nation. As the song goes: You with the sad eyes don’t be discouraged. Oh, I realize It’s hard to take courage in a world full of people, you can lose sight of it all. And the darkness there inside you makes you feel so small.

Going back to why I think it is a bad idea for Manny Pacquiao to run for President stems from my hobby of reading comic books; particularly, of the superhero genre.

I was reading this post written by Julia from the Adaptive Path blog. She wrote about Superman being a hero. Superman, she said, was faster than a speeding bullet, and all that but not a leader. Leaders as she put it:

….empower others. Leaders don’t do all the work on their own, but instead inspire other people to create something amazing, to work towards a cause, or to move a project or humanity to a better place. When a leader is present, everyone works and often together. Gandhi is known for renouncing violence and empowering others to do the same. Really, what good is creating anything for people if everyone is injured or dead? JFK is known so well for asking people what they can do for their country. He empowered others.  When a leader is truly leading, people aren’t left behind, but brought along and inspired into action.

Julia is right, you know?

In the world of the comic book, particularly the superheroes of the DC Universe, the theme of Superman as a world leader has been explored countless times over the past ten years and is still being explored. Mark Waid and Alex Ross back in the Mid-1990s wrote a most awesome Graphic Novel, “Kingdom Come” that dealt with the ethics of super heroics. In that novel, one of the questions they asked was: What if Superman gave up on his never-ending battle? You can guess that the world was shit and that the Second Coming of Superman didn’t exactly turn things around.

There is another side of Superman. While Batman has always been seen as the “general,” the Dark Knight with the plan. The man you should take out first when facing the Justice League, Superman on the other hand wears bright colors of blue, yellow and red because he needs to be seen. He is a symbol of hope. Just his mere presence on the field of battle, you know things will be all right.

And the DC Universe event Infinite Crisis where Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman were at cross purposes and found themselves at each other’s throat at the smoking ruins of the Justice League Watchtower. This happens when Superman can’t inspire. Wonder Woman can’t relate and Batman judges:

Batman: You relate too much. You’re not human. You’re Superman.

Superman: I know that.

Batman: Then start acting like it. All hell has broken loose and you’re on the moon with me? The world needs you.

Superman: Telling people what to do? I’m not a god. And I’m not like you, Bruce. I don’t need to control everything.

Batman: After all these years, you know it’s not about control. It’s about trying to do everything I can. And for you, it’s about setting an example. Everyone looks up to you. They listen to you. If you tell them to fight, they’ll fight. But they need to be inspired. And let’s face it “Superman“…the last time you really inspired anyone— was when you were dead. We’re done.

Then Batman and Wonder Woman walk away.

Wonder Woman: Yes. I guess we are.

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The last time you inspired anyone was when you were dead.

The last time you inspired anyone was when you were dead.

My point is this. As a new prince of the realm, the politician Manny Pacquiao’s motives are clear. He subscribes to the same ideals that the current crop subscribe to. If he chooses to run, it would be because he wants to continue his name recognition; his influence; to maintain his family’s interest; to protect and grow their wealth.

But Manny Pacquio is like Superman.

Manny Pacquio is a hero. He steps on that ring, he brings pride to Filipinos everywhere. He’s the Filipino everyman. Manny Pacquio is a rags to riches story. His story is the poor boy who turned himself into a champion and win or lose against the fight against Hatton that will not change. But there could be another side to Manny Pacquio. He can be a leader. He can inspire others. With his wealth, Manny Pacquio could start training schools and companies that can create jobs. With his vast wealth, he can inspire people to be better than who they are and actually help them out in a more positive way.

Maybe we need an out of the box idea to fix things in this country. Alexa of Adaptive Path wrote about Creativity for Left-Brained People and is a good method to use. So are you good to throw some ideas on the board?

Anyway, the dedication that Filipino entrepreneurs across this country give to grow their business is important. The work they do and that of our countrymen like the poor soldier out there in Mindanao dedicating his life to his country by following orders is important. Filipinos from across the world in all sort of occupation, often in demeaning jobs are heroes for putting kids in the Philippines to school, for dedicating their blood and toil and sweat to try to get their families out of poverty. This is the half that thrives because of our individual endeavor, because of our love of family and the passion we feel towards our own. While this country need heroes, it is in short supply of leaders. That’s the other half of the solution, in my humble opinion.

This is interesting. Primer wrote Paradox of the Party-List System:

Again, we are interested to know if Party List A, or PL B, or PL C – all alike – actually earned their votes not from the general population but from some local population alone. For if this be so, it means that any winnable regular congressman can tag along another of his own, say a brother or a sister.

Given this scenario, it is clear how one can hit two birds with just one stone. Serious observers of trends or legal scholars must try to really do a work in profiling. At the rate it has gone, we are seeing a pattern where supposedly new politicians actually come from the same families – over and over again.

That’s an aristocracy right? Does it matter? I don’t think it matters that there is one. It matters what they do with the responsibility.

We need leaders who will use the aristocracy to grow this nation. I’m not saying our leaders need to be ethical. I’m not saying they should be morally clean. I’m not even saying the drama that they perpetuate on television and the farce that is the news should be stopped. I’m not even saying they should explain or raise the standard of discussion or understanding of our people. All i’m saying is that given positions of power and public trust, they should advance this country’s interest.

The Philippines is like an old Spanish house. It is time to upgrade it to have modern conveniences. It is time for a renovation and the only place that will happen is from the inside. CIvil Society and the Middle Class won’t take power or the responsibility associated with it. They don’t know how to. It isn’t in their nature. Half of the changes that this country needs must come from our Aristocracy. That’s where leadership must come from. The sad part is, our nation’s political life is like a singularity and that’s the chicken and the egg paradox we have.

*the image of Manny Pacquiao and Freddy Roach is by licensed by Frederick Manligas Nacino, Creative Commons Attribution ShareAlike 3.0

update: **sorry forgot to add that the comics I embedded was “Infinite Crisis”, written by Geoff Johns, pencilled by Phil Jimenez, inked by Andy Lanning, colored by Jeremy Cox and Guy Major, Lettered by Nick Napolita and published by DC Comics, December 2005. The comic is owned by DC Comics and I evoke fair use.


About Author: cocoy has written 162 articles. cocoy is a thirty year old geek who enjoys a good cup of coffee and is into Technology, Financial Markets, Entrepreneurship, and Comic Books. He tweets as @cocoy on twitter, contributes for blogwatch.ph and is Keeper of Words for iPhonePinas.


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  • We need leaders who will use the aristocracy to grow this nation. I’m not saying our leaders need to be ethical. I’m not saying they should be morally clean. I’m not even saying the drama that they perpetuate on television and the farce that is the news should be stopped. I’m not even saying they should explain or raise the standard of discussion or understanding of our people. All i’m saying is that given positions of power and public trust, they should advance this country’s interest.

    Now, Cocoy, wouldn't you say, that the nation's interest are also all of the above? For how could ethics be separate from the interest of a nation? This specific line is troubling only because of the fact that it is indeed the ethics of previous politicos and current politicos that have contributed to the failed situation that we see ourselves in.

    It may be that there are able bodies out there that can act in an unethical manner and still pursue a nation's interest. There are those such as Bill Clinton who failed the ethics test, and yet is still considered one of the best presidents in modern era.. But, in a nation such as ours, ethics is a must, only because we have a system that does not have the rigorous checks and balance that other nations have. While Bill Clinton may have stopped the unethical behaviors at mere felato, our politicos have a system where unethical behaviors can reach higher limits, and these higher limits often entail the contribution to the further stagnation or decline of our nation.

    • i agree with you on the point that to remove ethics isn't in the interest of the nation. i disagree on the ground that the norm is the unethical. It is patronage from the ground up. The system can't be cleansed because who is innocent to throw the first stone?

      And i think you got my point. They and We may fail the ethics test, BUT the more important thing is really addressing the biggest issues: give our people the chance to earn a decent wage. give them jobs so they can have a fighting chance out of poverty. Build better roads. etc. etc. And then slowly through the years, we improve how the police investigate. we improve the speed by which our judges resolve cases.

      Edited: if i may add. That's another Chicken and the Egg paradox. Do we prosecute now– until the chicken can lay an egg with little chance of success or we work what we have to give the egg a fighting chance to be a chicken. America wasn't perfect when it was born. I don't think we can expect perfection now. I think we should take what we're given and work make the best out of it otherwise this country just goes around and around.

  • Which came first, the Chicken or the Egg?

    This is an ancient riddle based on two statements both of which are believed to be true (but one of which was proven to be false 150 years ago in 1859):

    (1) Every Chicken comes from a Chicken Egg.
    (2) Every Chicken Egg comes from a Chicken.

    To see which one is not a scientifically acceptable statement, consider two incontrovertible facts

    (A) No chicken has ever been observed to transform itself, molecule by molecule, tissue upon tissue, into an Egg. No Chicken ever "grows into" a Chicken Egg.
    (B) On the other hand, Eggs have often been observed to "grow into" Chickens, to transform themselves, molecule by molecule, tissue by tissue into baby chicks then into adult hens or roosters, i.e. Chickens.

    This is like the fact that we often observe glasses filled with water falling form a table and shattering into smithereens. But we never really expect to see the time-reversed version of such a spectacular event, ie, we never see smithereens of glass and liquid H20 suddenly form into a glass filled with water.

    Likewise, Charles Darwin proved that what had to have happened is that something not a Chicken but the Ancestor of all Chickens in the River of Evolution, call it Proto-Chook (maybe a dinosaur!) one day laid an Egg that, because of a chance or random Mutation in its blastocyst, or the weird DNA of some Proto-Rooster, grew up not into proto-Chook but what we now buy at Kentackys after we fry them dead.

    The Egg came before the Chicken. If you believe in Darwinism.

  • Now of course Charles Darwin knew nothing about blastocysts or DNA molecules when he wrote Origin of the Species, but the existence of a physical something like genes and DNA was, for a hundred years, the most daring and tantalizing prediction of Darwin's Theory of Evolution, until it was proved in 1959 by Watson and Crick using Xray crystallographic techniques on the double helix structure of the DNA molecule. Heredity, and therefore evolution by natural selection could be explained by molecular genetics!

    Now of course, this is just my clumsy way of weaving a Parable in answer to the Post's main concern about the best strategy for the Philippines, going forward as they say.

    The lesson offered in the little parable above is that we must concentrate on mutating the Eggs…

  • "The Philippines is like an old Spanish house. It is time to upgrade it to have modern conveniences. It is time for a renovation and the only place that will happen is from the inside."

    Cocoy,

    If the house is that old, and the aristocratic owner now lives in Forbes Park, then it cannot be upgraded anymore to be able to afford the conveniences of a real modern living. Being yourself involved in the construction business, if I recall right, you may well know that a renovation in such a case will be an exercise in futility, therefore, the only solution, if we assume we can get the owner's consent, is—COMPLETE DEMOLITION.

    Unless we want to preserve the house as a relic.

  • My youngest and favorite aunt and her family lives in this gated village and a neighbor has this beautiful old Spanish house. I don't know if it is true but I heard that their neighbor had it shipped stone by stone. I always wanted one. Ancient on the outside, but inside a technological marvel. I understand that sometimes it is best to demolish something like that. But yeah, we'd want to preserve the house as a relic as much as we can.

  • do we then move towards choosing the lesser of a multitudes of evils, trying to figure just which one will at least pursue the needed reforms erstwhile being hypocritical on the issue of ethics?

    The norm is that of no ethics, yes. But then, the important observation is still.. who will yield to internal limits set upon ones self, if no limits exist? The choice we must then make is to support those who have a lower limit? because as we have seen, it seems that it is those on the fringes of the extremes that will never cater to a nation's interest.. but there are those, who are willing to pursue national interests.. as long as greed is moderated..

    • do we then move towards choosing the lesser of a multitudes of evils, trying to figure just which one will at least pursue the needed reforms erstwhile being hypocritical on the issue of ethics?

      i’m saying “reform” require two parallel tracks:

      1. the one that is happening. the one that everyday people are already doing. building businesses, sending kids to school, raising families decently, trying to earn decent wages. also the things we are doing on FV and in many other places on the Internet. these things are important and crucial to building a better nation.

      2. the other side must come from our leaders. in the absence of any sort of system to replace new blood or for people— civil society and the middle class to actually be interested in taking power and responsibility rather than simply ranting about it, then it falls to those already in charge to be more responsible with how the exercise power and responsibility.

      Sad to say those in power are sort of an aristocracy. After one politico reaches his term limit, his wife takes over or his son or his daughter, right? they have to be more responsible.

  • The riddle is as complicated as ever.

    The religionist say God created a Chicken, not an egg, therefore chicken came first. The Darwinians, by some incontrovertible facts, say Egg came first. Always the two contradicting each other.

    Now we know that religion is not scientific enough, and so there is always the doubt about its claim, that is, if we are not as faithful as my Manoy Bencard.

    But to take the matter in the context of the theory of evolution, it's quite a bit hard to imagine an egg evolving into a chicken in the manner that, say, for example, the crocodile species evolved from fish (not sure of this).

    The riddle is stil a riddle.

    • I wasn’t talking about God at all Bert. Just chickens and eggs and how they really come to be. Even if you believe in God but at least accept the evolution of chickens, there is no riddle: the Egg comes first.

      It’s just to do with our present understanding of the origin of species, ie how chickens get to be chickens. An egg does not “evolve” into a chicken. An egg grows up to be a chicken in the common understanding of “growing up.” Basically what we know is that there was a first chicken which could only have developed or grown up from an Egg.

      Of course if you are not a CAtholic (who do believe in Evolution) but are a fundamentalist evangelical, then yeah, you would believe that God made chickens directly and did not let evolution do it for Him.

  • Oops, nawala reply ko kay DJB, inis naman, ang tagal kong inisip iyon, huhuhu, hikbi.

  • BongV

    Bert:

    In the US, antique houses are restored to their original state – and oftentimes, converted to a museum, or into Old World style inns. Preserving heritage is important. It reminds us where we come from.

  • BongV

    The system can't be cleansed because who is innocent to throw the first stone?

    The system can't be cleansed overnight, but with political will – it can be cleansed gradually using a phased implementation approach – set goals that are specific, measurable, attainable, realistic, and time-bound; identify your metrics and KPIs; generate a scorecard for continuous improvement.

    Something's gotta give, if we become more concerned about "throwing the first stone", then we'll wind up doing nothing – and that comes with a cost – the Cost of Doing Nothing.

    That’s an aristocracy right? Does it matter? I don’t think it matters that there is one. It matters what they do with the responsibility.

    Yes it matters. Democracy was founded precisely to do away with the aristocracy. That an aristocracy exist tells a lot about the state of democracy in the Philippines – an illussion.

  • BongV

    The system can't be cleansed because who is innocent to throw the first stone?
    </quote>

    The system can't be cleansed overnight but it can be cleansed gradually using a modular and phased implementation approach – divide the problem into smaller pieces; gradually clean each small piece until all pieces are cleaned.

    If we stick to the "who is innocent to throw the first stone" then we wind up not doing anything. We can move beyond that, take personal responsibility for our actions, and let the pieces fall where it may.

  • BongV

    The system can't be cleansed because who is innocent to throw the first stone?

    The system can't be cleansed overnight but it can be cleansed gradually using a modular and phased implementation approach – divide the problem into smaller pieces; gradually clean each small piece until all pieces are cleaned.

    If we stick to the "who is innocent to throw the first stone" then we wind up not doing anything. We can move beyond that, take personal responsibility for our actions, and let the pieces fall where it may.

    That’s an aristocracy right? Does it matter? I don’t think it matters that there is one. It matters what they do with the responsibility.

    Yes, it matters. Modern Democracy rose out of discontent from the Aristocracy/Feudal Lords. That an aristocracy exists say a lot about democracy in the Philippines – an illusion, a comedy of errors, a theater of the absurd.

  • If Adam and Eve were the first humans, and they had two sons — where did Cain's wife come from?

  • Oh, pleeez! Boxing is a sport of the gung-gongs. Boxing is not academe-supported. Boxing is education-optional. Boxing got no class. That is why boxing never garner a big huge headline spread in civilized countries. But in FlipLand, where pipol are in desperate need of world-wide fame regardless it's covertly denegrated abroad by the educated, Manny fits that Flip fame. Boxing is a one-man show. Run by seedy mob-thinking people.

    Dr. Manny Pacquiao (Doctor was conferred by Southwestern University of Cebu). Pacquiao for president? I just wonder how in the friggin' world the poster came up with an idea that Dr. Pacquiao will ever be president or consider as presidentiable. It's not even worthy of mention.

    Gosh, Betties, get real. Let us not trash our cranium with more garbage.

    • I beg to disagree on this, Nat. It’s all about pursuing what you desire and makes you happy in this lifetime. Whoever compelled you to be this or that is actually enslaving you. That goes for any kind of vocation, sport or interest in life. And as far as that happiness is concerned, Manny has pursued it well (obviously, with globally-agreed excellence), and he is extremely happy about it, along with other perks such as promoting our country and earning something that even the entire country’s business sector would need to earn in one month–something that even 25 self-described doctors of whatever field could not achieve in a lifetime.

      For what are all the titles and hypocritical constructs we coerced ourselves to live-for, when we’re not happy with it either. Manny will always be a winner. And he doesn’t need titles to prove such…not even our praises and regards and other forms of sadistic systems we forced ourselves to submit to.

  • BongV

    Dang, my comment is appearing in the WP comments dashboard – but I don't friggin see it here.

  • "She wrote about Superman being a hero. Superman, she said, was faster than a speeding bullet, and all that but not a leader…."

    this was also in SUPERMAN 4, the quest for peace… i don't think anyone thinks this movie is cannon.. :) . ahahaha…

    but basically, supes says i can' solve the nuclear proliferation problem. people should do it.

  • We wish Pacquiao to win in his next bout…

  • Naalala ko tuloy ‘yung laban na natalo si Manny. Bago ilabas ‘yung last round sa TV ay ‘yung commentator ay nagsalita muna na mag-kalma lang daw ang mga audience or anything like that.

    Amused lang ako kasi iniisip nila na magwawala ang mga Pinoy ‘pag natalo si Manny.

  • Dr. Manny Pacquiao won at 2.

    MANNY FOR PRESIDENT! BAHALA NA KAYO!

    Magkano na ba ang FOREX?

  • Renato, i understand where you are coming from but i’ve always been of the opinion that people don’t really understand the market. And that’s sad. Forex just as dow, s&p, nasdaq are market driven. our forex is not an economic indicator.

    Edit:
    you know what? here’s my rant:

    I keep wondering why people aren’t more happy when the exchange rate should be kept at 50-51 level. Seriously, at that level, OFWs get more buying power and our exports are a LOT cheaper. Sure it’ll raise inflation but hell, inflation rises anyway. If people are worried about how much it could affect oil prices, shouldn’t we reduce taxes on oil products to make the effect negligible? Can’t we make government more efficient to make every bang for our buck count? Can’t we couple that with encouraging more efficient industries?

  • your views mesh almost exactly with jose almonte’s in his book, “we must level the playing field.”

    you might want to check out:

    http://www.thelobbyist.biz/psketch_detail.php?id_article=1043&id_category=37

  • Wonderfully written; Substantial and inspiring; A breath of fresh air, and yes, very Coy.

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