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		<title>By: Alfie</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/the-meralco-takeover/comment-page-1#comment-12628</link>
		<dc:creator>Alfie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 09:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Masyado yata kayo dekahon mag-isip. Lahat ng Distribution utility sa Pinas mataas maningil ng kuryente, even higher than MERALCO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Masyado yata kayo dekahon mag-isip. Lahat ng Distribution utility sa Pinas mataas maningil ng kuryente, even higher than MERALCO.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/the-meralco-takeover/comment-page-1#comment-867</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 18:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lahat tayo ay mga tsismosa at tsismoso, we all don&#039;t really have proof on whats really going on, but if all this are true,then we need to get all the proof, hindi tayo basta nakikinig sa sabi ng iba, all i presume ay puro magnanakaw ang both side, will these is my opinion but i really condem no one nor mentioned names, we pinoys thinks the same, like if we saw something,we tell to someboby and that somebody well tell another person but this time he added something about it then from another, they too will add more to the story. I&#039;m a electrical contractor here in US, from my point of view, I think our electrical distribution system was not as safe and accurate for there designs, I seen some consumers Transformers that are not distribute properly as per consumers demand, the safe distance and hieghts are really unsafe. you might have seen some unsafe and unproper Meters and line drops in media videos in TV, you&#039;ll be the judge on it or perhaps if you got a chance next time you visit our PHILIPPINES, please look at it because from this point, we sure know someones pocketing money from cutting the right and proper material needed. I&#039;m sure you guys know what i&#039;m trying to say. Again we sure can not mentioned name tell we have proof of there crimes and I still believe both sides are trying to manipulate the citizens for redirecting them to one problem to another, or perhaps Our current President Arroyo really trying to divert our attention to the lopez because ABS-CBN don&#039;t give a damn about brodcasting any wrongdoings from the goverment top official to the staff, we all know that wowowee does help a lot of people from the help of sponsors, will think about this, globe is one of loyal supporter of wowowee, now if globe losses money, they well forced to porfit there donation support to wowowee, I said these because the goverment are now asking globe and other cell provides to give free txt messaging, we all know that these provider does lease sattelite from other nation. by the way I think ERMITA resembles OBAMA BEN LADEN, he looks like a good person but he has a definitely unpredicted mentally insane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lahat tayo ay mga tsismosa at tsismoso, we all don&#8217;t really have proof on whats really going on, but if all this are true,then we need to get all the proof, hindi tayo basta nakikinig sa sabi ng iba, all i presume ay puro magnanakaw ang both side, will these is my opinion but i really condem no one nor mentioned names, we pinoys thinks the same, like if we saw something,we tell to someboby and that somebody well tell another person but this time he added something about it then from another, they too will add more to the story. I&#8217;m a electrical contractor here in US, from my point of view, I think our electrical distribution system was not as safe and accurate for there designs, I seen some consumers Transformers that are not distribute properly as per consumers demand, the safe distance and hieghts are really unsafe. you might have seen some unsafe and unproper Meters and line drops in media videos in TV, you&#8217;ll be the judge on it or perhaps if you got a chance next time you visit our PHILIPPINES, please look at it because from this point, we sure know someones pocketing money from cutting the right and proper material needed. I&#8217;m sure you guys know what i&#8217;m trying to say. Again we sure can not mentioned name tell we have proof of there crimes and I still believe both sides are trying to manipulate the citizens for redirecting them to one problem to another, or perhaps Our current President Arroyo really trying to divert our attention to the lopez because ABS-CBN don&#8217;t give a damn about brodcasting any wrongdoings from the goverment top official to the staff, we all know that wowowee does help a lot of people from the help of sponsors, will think about this, globe is one of loyal supporter of wowowee, now if globe losses money, they well forced to porfit there donation support to wowowee, I said these because the goverment are now asking globe and other cell provides to give free txt messaging, we all know that these provider does lease sattelite from other nation. by the way I think ERMITA resembles OBAMA BEN LADEN, he looks like a good person but he has a definitely unpredicted mentally insane.</p>
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		<title>By: gio margaroli</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/the-meralco-takeover/comment-page-1#comment-834</link>
		<dc:creator>gio margaroli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 17:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The government being a big shareholder of MERALCO should really have a say on how the MERALCO management is handling the operations of their business.  Not only do they own a big share but it is also the govt&#039;s responsibility to take care of the Filipino consumers whose electric bills keep on going up whenever MERALCO wants to. 

Everyone in the business sector who are now suppliers or previous suppliers of MERALCO would always say that there is a &quot;MAFIA&quot; in the purchasing department and the purchasing committee of MERALCO, most especially on the choice of CONTRACTORS and SUBCONTRACTORS for their substations and other major supplies.  Why don&#039;t you look deeper and investigate/audit into the documents of Purchasing Dept. and see who always win the bids, and did it not made a big fiasco too when even those foreign contractors conducted their own investigation against their managers and employees because they connive in this corruption between MERALCO and their local company here? Look at who these General Contractors are and the subcontractor who always win the bid other than MIESCOR. There are only two contractors that builds the houses of the executives for free and prices of course are already included in the cost of the projects that they bid.  Also included in the package are their trips abroad, etc, etc. 

Previous employees of MERALCO say that MERALCO was at its best during the times of the old LOPEZ.  He was humble, good to his employees and is always fair.

After Chito Francisco took over with Manolo Lopez, everything changed.  They focused on enriching themselves by getting kickbacks from chosen suppliers. 

Again, to be sure that this is true, investigate on their awarded contracts from 1996 to present.  You will see how biddings are done and contracts are awarded to chosen few by the MAFIA passing sometimes to their sister company MIESCOR.

Marami na rin kayong sinaktan sa mga dati ninyong contractors.

Maybe this is your &quot;karma&quot;. Puro kay July nyo lang binibigay lahat ng project nyo dahil magkakasosyo kayong lahat diyan.  Bakit kasosyo din ba ang gobyerno sa sosyo nyo ni July?  Kung hindi dapat parehas ang bidding, di ba?

Matatakaw kasi kayo, mabuti nga sa inyo.  Panahon na siguro that you be given a dose of your own medicine.

Chito, you better step down and give that reign to better and deserving people so that we can have better rates on our electric bills.

Actually, these executives dont care anymore.  Marami na silang naipon that even if the entire Philippine&#039;s economy fall, mayayaman pa rin sila up to their kaapu-apuhan.  

Good for you! Kunwari pa kayo eh, pag kinuha yan ng gobyerno, ang saya nyo kasi lahat ng inutang nyo at pinagkakitaan nyo na, ngayon, iba na ang magbabayad.

Kunin nyo munang lahat ng ninakaw ng mga officers ng MERALCO para di gaano mahirapan tayo sa pagbabayad ng mga inutang nila.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The government being a big shareholder of MERALCO should really have a say on how the MERALCO management is handling the operations of their business.  Not only do they own a big share but it is also the govt&#8217;s responsibility to take care of the Filipino consumers whose electric bills keep on going up whenever MERALCO wants to. </p>
<p>Everyone in the business sector who are now suppliers or previous suppliers of MERALCO would always say that there is a &#8220;MAFIA&#8221; in the purchasing department and the purchasing committee of MERALCO, most especially on the choice of CONTRACTORS and SUBCONTRACTORS for their substations and other major supplies.  Why don&#8217;t you look deeper and investigate/audit into the documents of Purchasing Dept. and see who always win the bids, and did it not made a big fiasco too when even those foreign contractors conducted their own investigation against their managers and employees because they connive in this corruption between MERALCO and their local company here? Look at who these General Contractors are and the subcontractor who always win the bid other than MIESCOR. There are only two contractors that builds the houses of the executives for free and prices of course are already included in the cost of the projects that they bid.  Also included in the package are their trips abroad, etc, etc. </p>
<p>Previous employees of MERALCO say that MERALCO was at its best during the times of the old LOPEZ.  He was humble, good to his employees and is always fair.</p>
<p>After Chito Francisco took over with Manolo Lopez, everything changed.  They focused on enriching themselves by getting kickbacks from chosen suppliers. </p>
<p>Again, to be sure that this is true, investigate on their awarded contracts from 1996 to present.  You will see how biddings are done and contracts are awarded to chosen few by the MAFIA passing sometimes to their sister company MIESCOR.</p>
<p>Marami na rin kayong sinaktan sa mga dati ninyong contractors.</p>
<p>Maybe this is your &#8220;karma&#8221;. Puro kay July nyo lang binibigay lahat ng project nyo dahil magkakasosyo kayong lahat diyan.  Bakit kasosyo din ba ang gobyerno sa sosyo nyo ni July?  Kung hindi dapat parehas ang bidding, di ba?</p>
<p>Matatakaw kasi kayo, mabuti nga sa inyo.  Panahon na siguro that you be given a dose of your own medicine.</p>
<p>Chito, you better step down and give that reign to better and deserving people so that we can have better rates on our electric bills.</p>
<p>Actually, these executives dont care anymore.  Marami na silang naipon that even if the entire Philippine&#8217;s economy fall, mayayaman pa rin sila up to their kaapu-apuhan.  </p>
<p>Good for you! Kunwari pa kayo eh, pag kinuha yan ng gobyerno, ang saya nyo kasi lahat ng inutang nyo at pinagkakitaan nyo na, ngayon, iba na ang magbabayad.</p>
<p>Kunin nyo munang lahat ng ninakaw ng mga officers ng MERALCO para di gaano mahirapan tayo sa pagbabayad ng mga inutang nila.</p>
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		<title>By: hil</title>
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		<dc:creator>hil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 04:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>makapapal talaga ang mukha ng mga lopezes. pati ang ginagamin nilang kuryente ay taong bayan ang nagbabayad. imagine P533 million pesos ang halaga na binayaran ng mga pilipino nuong 2007 sa libreng paggamit nila ng kuryente. ipinapasa nila ito bilang system loss. ang sakit sa bulsa diba?. Sabi nila pinapayagan naman ito sa batas, pero pati ba naman kuryenteng gamit ng ABS-CBN ay ipinapasa sa atin? nasaan ang moral na basehan nila dito para ipataw nila ito at sapilitan nating bayaran? kaya masakit mang masabi, MERALCO ang pinakamaking magnanakaw at holdaper ng taong bayan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>makapapal talaga ang mukha ng mga lopezes. pati ang ginagamin nilang kuryente ay taong bayan ang nagbabayad. imagine P533 million pesos ang halaga na binayaran ng mga pilipino nuong 2007 sa libreng paggamit nila ng kuryente. ipinapasa nila ito bilang system loss. ang sakit sa bulsa diba?. Sabi nila pinapayagan naman ito sa batas, pero pati ba naman kuryenteng gamit ng ABS-CBN ay ipinapasa sa atin? nasaan ang moral na basehan nila dito para ipataw nila ito at sapilitan nating bayaran? kaya masakit mang masabi, MERALCO ang pinakamaking magnanakaw at holdaper ng taong bayan.</p>
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		<title>By: Valdemar</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/the-meralco-takeover/comment-page-1#comment-573</link>
		<dc:creator>Valdemar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 01:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know somewhere I posted something like this, sa ginapala na mga pera pinapoamudmud lagi parang popcorn sa paper bags, at mga pera na di pa nautang ng mga GSIS bigwigs, ibayad muna sa Meralco. Then share it to the Meralco pure blooded Filipino users prorata thru equities included in the billings. 

Tongue,
Anjan pa si Mr. Flores sa Veco? Regards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know somewhere I posted something like this, sa ginapala na mga pera pinapoamudmud lagi parang popcorn sa paper bags, at mga pera na di pa nautang ng mga GSIS bigwigs, ibayad muna sa Meralco. Then share it to the Meralco pure blooded Filipino users prorata thru equities included in the billings. </p>
<p>Tongue,<br />
Anjan pa si Mr. Flores sa Veco? Regards.</p>
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		<title>By: TonGuE-tWisTeD</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/the-meralco-takeover/comment-page-1#comment-509</link>
		<dc:creator>TonGuE-tWisTeD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 18:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the corporate world, transparency has it limits. You don&#039;t give out all the kinky details, especially not to a &lt;b&gt;competitor&lt;/b&gt;. I posted this &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.aboitiz.com.ph/Site/Aboitiz3/VECO.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;link&lt;/a&gt; in my blog, check out the last sentence.

According to Manuel Buencamino (Uniffors) Meralco stocks had slipped 22% due to Garcia&#039;s tantrums resulting in a paper loss of P4.5B to GSIS on account of its holdings in Meralco. He&#039;s done more damage to the ordinary people so far than to any of the Lopezes.

Cocoy is absolutely right, privatization is the key, not the reverse, as Garcia is now preaching. Moreso with the Mafia getting all the juicy deals from the newly-privatized assets. PSALM&#039;s record is here : (http://bp2.blogger.com/_PaZY2VSIf-A/SCa3ANqSDTI/AAAAAAAAAMo/S8f8EfuXD-s/s1600-h/psalmlist.jpg)

Finally, if it&#039;s right &quot;na kalampagin ang Meralco&quot;, why not include the &quot;other&quot; distributor - Aboitiz?

*****
Sorry, Valdemar, I had to name you in my example. I edited it out in my own blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the corporate world, transparency has it limits. You don&#8217;t give out all the kinky details, especially not to a <b>competitor</b>. I posted this <a href="http://www.aboitiz.com.ph/Site/Aboitiz3/VECO.aspx" rel="nofollow">link</a> in my blog, check out the last sentence.</p>
<p>According to Manuel Buencamino (Uniffors) Meralco stocks had slipped 22% due to Garcia&#8217;s tantrums resulting in a paper loss of P4.5B to GSIS on account of its holdings in Meralco. He&#8217;s done more damage to the ordinary people so far than to any of the Lopezes.</p>
<p>Cocoy is absolutely right, privatization is the key, not the reverse, as Garcia is now preaching. Moreso with the Mafia getting all the juicy deals from the newly-privatized assets. PSALM&#8217;s record is here : (<a href="http://bp2.blogger.com/_PaZY2VSIf-A/SCa3ANqSDTI/AAAAAAAAAMo/S8f8EfuXD-s/s1600-h/psalmlist.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://bp2.blogger.com/_PaZY2VSIf-A/SCa3ANqSDTI/AAAAAAAAAMo/S8f8EfuXD-s/s1600-h/psalmlist.jpg</a>)</p>
<p>Finally, if it&#8217;s right &#8220;na kalampagin ang Meralco&#8221;, why not include the &#8220;other&#8221; distributor &#8211; Aboitiz?</p>
<p>*****<br />
Sorry, Valdemar, I had to name you in my example. I edited it out in my own blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Limjap</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/the-meralco-takeover/comment-page-1#comment-451</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Limjap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 03:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pochero,

The irony being, Meralco also IS one of those IPPs.

While I have no love for Meralco, neither do I agree that the government should meddle in power as well. The Napocor, as cocoy put it, is far too much of a farce to ever trust the government to take control of power generation and transmission ever again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pochero,</p>
<p>The irony being, Meralco also IS one of those IPPs.</p>
<p>While I have no love for Meralco, neither do I agree that the government should meddle in power as well. The Napocor, as cocoy put it, is far too much of a farce to ever trust the government to take control of power generation and transmission ever again.</p>
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		<title>By: Patricio Mangubat</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/the-meralco-takeover/comment-page-1#comment-448</link>
		<dc:creator>Patricio Mangubat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 01:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mandaragat is correct. Meralco should be shaken and stirred, like a martini. That way, they&#039;ll be aware of the things they&#039;re doing to us, hapless victims of a fucked up system.

However, a takeover will not necessarily lead to a lowered electricity rate. I am all for it, IF government has a good track record in management. Sadly, government does fuck up most of the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mandaragat is correct. Meralco should be shaken and stirred, like a martini. That way, they&#8217;ll be aware of the things they&#8217;re doing to us, hapless victims of a fucked up system.</p>
<p>However, a takeover will not necessarily lead to a lowered electricity rate. I am all for it, IF government has a good track record in management. Sadly, government does fuck up most of the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Mandaragat</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/the-meralco-takeover/comment-page-1#comment-428</link>
		<dc:creator>Mandaragat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 09:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mga Lopez lang ang nagtatamasa nito, tama lang gawin ito ng gobyerno&#039;ng kalampagin ang Meralco para sa makatarungang singil ng kuyente.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mga Lopez lang ang nagtatamasa nito, tama lang gawin ito ng gobyerno&#8217;ng kalampagin ang Meralco para sa makatarungang singil ng kuyente.</p>
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		<title>By: Manuel L. Quezon III: The Daily Dose &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Cyberspace will determine 15 percent of 2010 poll results, says Gatmaitan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Manuel L. Quezon III: The Daily Dose &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Cyberspace will determine 15 percent of 2010 poll results, says Gatmaitan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 03:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] basis of existing share structures or of being subject to government regulation). the blogger and Patricio Mangubat in FilipinoVoices.com, though, share a skeptical attitude concerning the supposed benefits of a change in corporate [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] basis of existing share structures or of being subject to government regulation). the blogger and Patricio Mangubat in FilipinoVoices.com, though, share a skeptical attitude concerning the supposed benefits of a change in corporate [...]</p>
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