Is it really all about delivering to people messages that they’d like to hear in a form or a style they are comfy with? Or is it all about delivering messages that raise the bar of awareness and understanding as well as raise the quality of the discussion?
The earlier of the above two is consistent with a challenge issued to “intellectuals” (whether they be self-described or recognised as such) by a commenter in my last article:
Are we mediocre or not merely average because we dont read books and take things lightly and people watch a lot of TV. I dont think so. If you’re such an intellectual you need to understand other people’s circumstances and how they are made up. Hindi naman pwede na isubo mo sa iba ang hindi nila gusto at baka isusuka lang nang tao, to be brutally frank. But you can do some things to make people appreciate things.
The view I take is that there is a manner by which ideas and topics of substance can be communicated — without being pompously verbose — that requires a certain degree of smarts and a certain command over communication faculties for the recipient of the message to be able to understand it.
So here’s the hard question:
Who is personally responsible for any initiative to acquire said smarts and faculties?
Does the burden of responsibility for getting a brilliant message across to those who need it the most rest on the messenger (to dumb it down) or the message recipient (to step up and comprehend in whatever way it takes)?
So yes, ma’am, I do “understand other people’s circumstances”. Those “other people” are people that were unfortunate enough to have been deprived of an attitude and mindset of taking personal accountability for creating opportunities for themselves and acquiring the tools to comprehend.
It is common knowledge that people who have a higher degree of education attainment, are more intelligent, or are more widely read (or any combination of these three) tend to have broader vocabularies at their disposal. The means to comprehend all come hand-in-hand: both the intellectual horsepower and the communication tools to recognise, acquire, and digest information of consequence. Of course there is also exceptional talent involved in expressing what are perceived to be complex concepts in simple terms (as I demonstrate in an article I once posted describing the financial crisis in a form that even morons can understand). But then to be able to simplify a “complex” beast, one needs first to be on top of the breadth and depth of scope of said beast first.
A small cup overfloweth in seeking to partake of the wealth of content within a large vessel.
Small minds get a taste of a sumptuous meal of knowledge and ideas laid out by bigger minds but are ultimately left unsatisfied because of an insufficient capacity to digest.
Tough luck, is what I say. This simple reality explains why there are winners and there are losers. Losers have a simple choice, really:
Either you step up and comprehend, or quit complaining about how things are “too complicated” for you.
Here’s another piece of wisdom that may pop some people’s bubbles:
The truth hurts. Can you handle that?
Anyone who’s had the character-building experience of taking care of young kids (at least those who did not delegate a big chunk of this duty to nannies) will probably remember times when you simply had no other choice but to hold your frightened kid down so that a doctor could administer medication via a syringe. I also remember many other instances of things you had to do that quite simply bewildered a child. Their limited experience and knowledge made understanding certain things that had to be done beyond their scope of understanding at the moment. There were times that we simply had to apply antibiotic ointment into an eye afflicted by conjunctivitis, or disinfect an open wound with medicine that stings, or pull out a splinter from a finger. In other words: bitter pills need to be swallowed.
Suffice to say, no amount of babytalk will change the reality of what needs to be done and what needs to be comprehended. Taking a university course that will open doors for you to earning big bucks is not easy, not cheap, and often not fun. So for those who think that a message that contains valuable learning can be pitched in the form that can be enjoyed as one would an episode of Wowowee, deal with this message:
Think again.
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“Is it really all about delivering to people messages that they’d like to hear in a form or a style they are comfy with? Or is it all about delivering messages that raise the bar of awareness and understanding as well as raise the quality of the discussion?”
these dont have to contradicting goals. in fact, you can/should have both qualities to messages/messaging.
Why the urinals, not cups to graphically represent the theme of the blog?
Just curious.
big brain in hydrocephalus head, hehehe.
I imagine a cartoon character,hulk’s foe “The Leader”.
Seriously now,
When you do a talk, and do presentations do you assume the audience get your presentations?
Or do you stay in comfort zone of the Q and A?
In the threads,Gabby most often asks the right questions and so you most often oblige him with an answer.
MAIBA tayo just to digress:
I remember on narrative from your letter sender when he asked his parents where children come from, and they answer from the pwet.
And then now you tell us about, how you dealt with your children.
Do you give them a straight answer, let say if they asked this at the tender age of three?
I get it ,that narrative does not nessarily fit you,just the point you are driving at,correct?
thanks 4 d compliment karl
You are welcome Gabby!
“Anyone who’s had the character-building experience of taking care of young kids… will probably remember times when you simply had no other choice but to hold your frightened kid down so that a doctor could administer medication via a syringe…”
Nice analogy. But I see in you the father holding his frightened kid not assuaging his fear but making faces, taunting the hapless child, “naku bata di mo kaya yan, para sa kalabaw yang karayom a!”
to ricelander :
There are people who do make faces and half-mock others who
have worked hard to excel .
You missed the point. I would reply if you post your comment on mine.
Let me guess. The urinals are for siamese twins conjoined at the side, right?
HA!HA!HA! benign0 is obviously an oblivious Flip!
Filipinos can be educated but cannot learn. THAT’S A FACT OF FILIPINO LIFE.
How many foreign-educated-ivy-school graduate bureaucrats do we have then mess up, steal, corrupt for lifestyle sake? Watch those idiot LAWmakers! They are so oblivious.
FILIPINOS HAS GROSS ATTENTION DEFICIT DISORDER and LONG-TERM MEMORY LOSS!!!!
HA!HA!HA!HA!
Benign0 has never been Aussiefied and is an AusFlip! He should go to the Top End! Nonetheless the fact of Australian life is this, you get to learn first and get educated later.
Ha!Ha!Ha! Your younger rellies talk about you a lot, you know. And how you slur your Ozzz lingo after three beers.
This is the reason we are Posting on the Blog Site. We have a better
perspective on things happening. We are exposed to various experiences and circumstances in our situations. We present our views and opinions in the simplest and the most understable way we can. Not to dominate the mindset of others. But, to give them other perspective views on the subjects. As is the saying: “To whom much is
given, much is required.”
We light the candle. Share its flame to light the candles of others.
Right on, Tas! Right on!
Benign0 still believes in education. Yes, Flips can be educated but cannot learn.
100% agree! We want Freedom of Opinion…
ang dami kasi, Nato. mabuti nga nagtira pa si Nick. nasisira ang kamada ng blog kapag bumanat ka. tingnan mo lahat na threads dito sa FV, puro ikaw na lang.
parang heavy traffic sa divisoria, swerte kung maka-singit kami.
kaso heavy traffic ng isang kotse, parang huramentado ang driver, heheh.
teka, teka, ano na nga ba topic dito? si renato kasi, ang gulo.
People don’t like my style. Filipinos want only one style. So, therefore, we need to impose martial law to communism in the Philippines.
Fortunately for Filipinos in America, Americans bend backward to accomodate Filipinos antics despite no contributions to American economy, science, technology and education.
Filipinos in AMerica just suck dry uncle Sam and send it here!!!!
VIVA FILIPINOS!!!!! MABUHAY!!!!!
Renato,
Ok lang yan tuloy mo lang style mo.
Ako after three years of reading benign0, I am still learning to appreciate and digest his “style”.
Most of those three years napipikon ako sa kanya,pero pag nadigest naman ok na.
I used to hate ampalaya,kaya lang kelangan ko sa high blood sugar ko kaya i lived with it.
Insights are needed, not necessarily only those that you agree with.
We learn from those who disagree.
If we have to adjust to your styles,we will just ask questions, bahala na kung sagutin o hindi.
siguro yan ang susunod kong pagaaralan sa pakikitungo kay benigz:ang pagtanong ng tanong na maiintindihan nya,minsan kahit ako di ko maintindihan ang mga tanong ko,pag binasa ko ulit.
They want this blogsite like a GENTLEMAN’S CLUB! Lookit here we have plenty of GENTLEMEN AND LADIES in our government look where they are taking us for the ride!!!!
CAN’T ANYONE SEE????? ARE WE THIS OBLIVIOUS???
In America, GENTLEMENA’S CLUB ARE strip clubs!!!! HA!HA!HA!HA!
iT’S NO WONDER FILIPINOS JUST CANNOT MAKE IT IN AMERICA BECAUSE THEY ARE NARROW MINDED IDIOTS!!!!!
some of us are not idiots just because you are, punk!
Renato, comments need only be relevant, sticking to the topic, and refrain from ad-hominems. Most importantly, try not to flood an entire comment thread with 4-10 replies at a time..
Actually contributing to a discussion will do everyone good, including other readers..
“Small minds get a taste of a sumptuous meal of knowledge and ideas laid out by bigger minds but are ultimately left unsatisfied because of an insufficient capacity to digest.”
Hhmmm. I’m no apologist for the less educated, less successful, less fortunate Pinoys but who doesn’t want to be successful? It’s not for lack of trying, I tell you. Even the most developed countries have their own clueless, illiterate, down-trodden lot.
To my mind, a peoples’ intellectual culture is influenced by several factors: a tradition of pursuit of knowledge (are we a reading or watching people?), pop culture largely influenced by mass media, government programs to enhance development of knowledge, etc.
Are these factors present in our society? Or are we Utak Komiks because of the structural weaknesses?
Paano nga ba magiging Kahol ng Bayan kung ang available lang sa mga Pinoy:
Kuhol ang kay Juan?
Look we have the bestest bureaucrats in the world, educated and literate. We have 98% literacy rate. We have 95% Roman Catholic!
And why are you in America, Phil? If they have clueless, uneducated and illiterates?
Could those clueless, uneducated and illiterates FILIPINOS?
ha!ha!ha!ha!ha!ha!ha! PHIL MANILA IS SO OBLIVIOUS OF HIS SURROUNDINGS!!!! TOO MUCH TFC AND WOWOWIEEEE I SUPPOSE!!!!
HA!HA!HA!HA!
Oh I forgot we crank out the most college graduates in the world just last nursing board exam 32,000 nurses passed!!!!
HA!HA!HA!HA!HA! WE ARE BETTERER THAN YOUR AMERICA!!!!
HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!
MAGKANO NA BA ANG FOREX??????
Work with what you have: that means the brains you got…
given Cable TV, same number of channels – WOWOWEE vs HISTORY CHANNEL/DISCOVERY CHANNEL/SCIENCE CHANNEL/MYTH BUSTERS –
guess which one will have the highest ratings for a certain “superior” culture :lol:
Hey, you must be aware that Somebody who does not agree with the
opinions to some people Posting on this Web Blog has hired some
HACKERS to torment you while you Post. They even send computer
viruses, malwares, trojan horses, etc… to Crash your computer.
Looks like a work of communist!!!! :) Filipino communist blogs thrives in AMerica …
i think you, renato, is the virus.
Well, that’s the viewpoing from my West Coast upbringing. Because in the West Coast, Ilocano plantation workers rule supreme. If they are plantation workers so are their petitioned children who has plantation mindset.
East Coast and Mid-west Pinoys are more educated. NOt the educated kind of Filipino education but a notch lower than American education but stratospheric notch above than West Coast Pinoy. THAT INCLUDES ME! bWAAAAAA! Bwaaaa!!!!!
Fortunately, I got ICEd! So I’m back in the Philippines receving FOREX from my parents!!!!
MAGKANO NA BA ANG FOREX?
Actually, I can agree with this. An educated Pinoy is like a pig with lipstick. The underbelly of Da Pinoy psyche never fails to shine through a veneer of education from even the best of schools. Ths is something Orion does say in his classic piece (excerpt as follows):
Read the whole article here.
Phil Manila, maybe the above article provides a good perspective to what you say here:
Is Filipino culture one that values pursuit of knowledge?
Keep in mind that the following two statements describe two very different approaches to thinking:
:D pursuing knowledge
:D pursuing education/credentials
They are two very different things.
A well balanced individual often does both. And some people who lack the second (education/credentials) still pursue knowledge with a vengeance. But I think it is quite obvious that, in our society, there are lots of folk who do only the second. They may bristle with diplomas and acronyms after their name but remain vacuous in the way that they approach problems (and may even be hopeless at framing problem statements well to begin with).
;)
are you part of this ‘elite’?
I am beginning to be disturb with this attitudinal problem one exhibits around here: that of name calling or tagging one fellow commenter or blogger as – “idiot, punk, virus”.
These are uncalled for. Why doesn’t that commenter simply comment on the ideas propounded and piece them apart to powder, if he can.
Renato here always brings in a whole chunk of ideas that are beyond the ordinaire. He makes sense. I don’t really like him, personally but if his ideas are simply allowed to float, it might even create sea change.
Enough with people with extreme attitudinal problems or why spill the beans?
Firstly, let me have a big laugh in this article. It’s not funny haha bad but good hehe. I appreciate you for quoting me but you forgot to remember my name Cheekychic.
I envy Mr Renato Pacifico for always having a good laugh and being mentioned all the time. I say, keep him here to keep everyone here on one’s toes. I bet he is a good writer and he believes in anyone’s freedom to be his or her self.
I read most of his comments and I am officially a Mr RP fan. Simple, straightforward and so funny for the 3S and his “walang paki” attitude keeps him going with his arsenal of comments. Your blog should consider yourselves lucky that he found you after all the blog hopping and walking that he probably did.
I mean what the??? urinal crap picture was put in this article to insult everyone and all the other Filipinos who cant even defend themselves, as they don’t know you Sir Benign whatever. You are so unhappy of others because they don’t seem to get what you are writing about by calling us small minded, unintellectual and uneducated. Okay, I’ll let you do that. I will accept that will all the kisses in the world to make you happy for undermining other people’s intelligence and this is my last take on you.
As I leave, I will give you my small-minded English and say this “I, no understanding the writing, das why – I, just going. Thanking you.”
Lastly, good luck and don’t quote me again as I was doing that in a nice way. Pareho tayo Pilipino, kaya huwag mong insultohin kapwa mo. Dont do a selective memory when someone disagrees with your ideas.
Mr Primer, I’d rather have a good sleep than comment and there is no need to expound on things that dont matter as much. Kasi, how people think and how they accept knowledge, ma-mangmang or too intellectual ang iba, wala na tayo doon as it is their choice to be. Smile everyone.
Have a nice life. :D
Cheeky, dalawa na kayo ni Primer na fans ni Renato, ilang araw na lang baka tatlo na tayo. kapag hindi ako na-buwisit sa Renatong iyan, heheh.
kala ko ako lang ang fan dito kay renata lol
Amazing turn around on Pobreng Alindahaw aka Renato Pacifico
Whither FV
wither FV?
nahhhhh…
FLOURISH.. :D
May pag-asa pa ang Pilipinas :lol:
I am afraid Benigno is right. Still my argument are based on my restricted observations:
1. That those that are intellectual are easily ostracized by the public
2. Those that are smart, are smart enough to know that showing intelligence raises a knee-jerk reaction, something that could be envy(I don’t know).
3. Silence as a powerful virtue.
Which leads to people
1. Not showing their true talents, a symptom which shows itself with silence as the a high virtue.
2. Reversion to a less brainy outlook. Reduced to alcohol, women and nicotine addictions.
Other factors:
1. Government’s(Oligarch controlled) apathy and general interest to keep people stupid.
“I am beginning to be disturb with this attitudinal problem one exhibits around here: that of name calling or tagging one fellow commenter or blogger as – “idiot, punk, virus”.”
sanayan lang yan,sabi nga ng kaibigan nating si dJB, pikon talo.
sa kanya ko din nadinig yung we learn from those who disagree.
isn’t it ironic?
minsan boksingero,
minsan espanggol,
minsan kanuto/a
bugtong bugtong :)
Dismissing “intellectualisation” is quite easy, actually. All you have to do is:
:D label “intellectual” material as “hi-fallutin” crap;
:D label “intellectuals” as windbags who are “out of touch” with the “common tao”;
and,
:D label people who open long-cherished traditions and belief systems to critical scrutiny as “coconut racists”.
Do all of the above and you instantly appeal to underclass/populist mentalities.
Labels are quite handy for getting flawed messages across to people who are too lazy to think for themselves or unfortunate enough to be devoid of the intellectual tools to understand information.
It’s simple, really™ — though not for the small-minded.
ahahahahahahahaha common tao
Word association leads me to Taos, New Mexico, USA and south to the peyote inspired writings of Carlos Casteneda. Forty years later I still walk with my palms to the ground to absorb the force of the earth, thereby walking lightly. The reason is mainly because the ground is covered by dung except for occasional patches of good soil. I rest now and then on the good patches to laugh and shake off a thick wad of sticky brown stuff.
Thanks for the break.
Write on.
Joe
Joe:
Ah, a Castaneda brethren – You’ll find FV as a good spot for exercising “controlled folly” :lol:
Had that one just recently. I know right.! How can these people imediately equate intellectual criticism as anti-nationalist? Is it because people that talk this way end up being assimilated in other cultures? Even though their still here rsiding in this country. How do you deal with their intellectual close-mindedness though?
What I like about Benign0′s approach is that it is to a certain extent “more objective” compared to most opinion writers and comment-ers here in FV, whose styles tend to be, shall we say, impassioned and subjective.
His attacks are targeted mainly against the basic and fundamental flaws of the Filipino psyche, not taking the usual route of blaming society’s ills on the usual suspects.
But benigs, if I may request, can you try writing something positive for a change?! i just want to see if the style will change.
Impossible, Liam. benigz has been trying to do that all those years, he can’t! Perhaps it’s in his psyche, but he can try again.
i agree. i’ve never read benign0 write anything positive in his own race. he does have a favorable opinion about himself however… i’d like to know how much of benign0 is real. he once commented on reyna’s blog that benign0′s persona is for public consumption. when i asked him whether his online persona reflects his real life, waved the question aside and said ” i should have figured it out by now” or something like that…
that can be a part of anyone’s life. some may have been immuned to it and some will still have to take it in the future. where would one should be? taking the bitter pills now may be better than taking it later when one is old and dirty. :) LOL
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really? it was fun for many pinoys I’ve known including me. what are you talking about benigno? attending college and university is fun. It is not even about money. iT’s about time and effort. It is an achievement regardless of the outcome. knowledge is power. please do not discourage others that attending universities may not be fun. sometimes disclosing information without a specific purpose may turn off and confused many young readers. this is a blog open to the public therefore the youth may misunderstand and an be misinformed.
what wisdom did you all learn from benigno?
is this all i get from reading benigno’s blog?
true, true. However you’re failing to account the incredibly impoverished. I believe he is referring to the Really poor but very gifted students that rise up through life. With hard work and scholarships these people can go far in life. Sacrificing many things and foregoing many pleasures puberty usually brings. Unless you’re taking a job then it’s a liitle more easier on the wallet.
Naaah, Ardeen. Pls. learn to know more of benigz, he thinks we are all in one basket, including you, Arden. And himself, heheh.
ardeen, is that what benign0 means of a bitter pill, you think?
then as always, benign0 can be a shallow elite with flat nose who may not be able to breath and smell the beauty of life? i am sensing benign0 is a witness of an intervening event that he had no control. his generation could be an issue? or psychologically, it means he can still be in denial that his ownself could be his own enemy?
modern view: the truth can only hurt you if you allow it to be :)
so what wisdom have we learned from GENERATION benign0?
leytenian:
dedicated to you :)
Lyrics to I Need To Wake Up :
Have I been sleeping?
I’ve been so still
Afraid of crumbling
Have I been careless?
Dismissing all the distant rumblings
Take me where I am supposed to be
To comprehend the things that I can’t see
Cause I need to move
I need to wake up
I need to change
I need to shake up
I need to speak out
Something’s got to break up
I’ve been asleep
And I need to wake up
Now
And as a child
I danced like it was 1999
My dreams were wild
The promise of this new world
Would be mine
Now I am throwing off the carelessness of youth
To listen to an inconvenient truth
That I need to move
I need to wake up
I need to change
I need to shake up
I need to speak out
Something’s got to break up
I’ve been asleep
And I need to wake up
Now
I am not an island
I am not alone
I am my intentions
Trapped here in this flesh and bone
And I need to move
I need to wake up
I need to change
I need to shake up
I need to speak out
Something’s got to break up
I’ve been asleep
And I need to wake up
Now
I want to change
I need to shake up
I need to speak out
Oh, Something’s got to break up
I’ve been asleep
And I need to wake up
leytenian:
eto, dedicated pa rin sa yo :lol:
Karaniwang Tao
Joey Ayala
Aako po’y karaniwang tao lamang
Kayod-kabayo, ‘yan ang alam
Karaniwang hanap-buhay
Karaniwan ang problema
Pagkain, damit at tirahan
‘Di ko kabisado ‘yang siyensiya
Ako’y nalilito sa maraming salita
Alam ko lang na itong planeta’y
Walang kapalit at dapat ingatan
Kapag nasira, sino ang kawawa
CHORUS
Karaniwang tao, saan ka tatakbo
Kapag nawasak iisang mundo
Karaniwang tao, anong magagawa
Upang bantayan ang kalikasan
Karaniwang bagay ay ‘di pansin
Kapag naipon ay nagiging suliranin
Kaunting basura ngayo’y bundok
Kotseng sira ay umuusok
Sabong panlaba’y pumapatay sa ilog
May lason na galing sa industriya
Ibinubuga ng mga pabrika
Ngunit ‘di lamang higante
Ang nagkakalat ng dumi
May kinalaman din ang tulad natin
bong, thanks but i accept your dedication. its too cheap and it’s not even me :)
bong the lyrics is actually perfect for you. :) did i talk to you lately? why all these dedications? thanks ..my god, i was only gone for a week here at FV . you sound like my ex who tried so hard. is benign0 your father? :)
leytenian:
your cup overfloweth :lol:
hahaha, thanks bong for the cheap dedication. i really appreciate it. did i talk to you lately? why suddenly distract my attention away from benigno? you see, the love and hate of leytenian to benign0 is my privilege not yours. :)
Perhaps, but like the Vulcans his arrogance has altruistic aftertastes(with a bitter overture). Yes Benigz, is a prick. That much is a given. However, and this is perhaps to my mother’s personal upbringing I find his words quite useful. Bitter maybe, but his not passing himself as a cultish leader or intellectual. One that promises easy ways in life through faith. No televangelist or messiah. He’s just laying the facts as it is. But who will be a foil to our Mr. Spock?
leytenian:
the ears overflow.. with buog :lol:
leytenian, I believe this is a signs of the time he and us lives. Assuming that the virtues which brings success in this lifetime are the barometer by which everything else is measured then a safe answer would have to be that:
1. Futility of Armed Violence/Revolution
2. Futility of Street Protests
3. Futility of PRayers
4. Personal advancement with hard work and immigration
has caused Benigz to be skptical of any grassroots campaign that promises to bring about change..
yup, the mind’s small cup is overflowing indeed. i do like your sense of humor benigs. Wisdom tooth? maybe. LOL
Chickycheek,
Renato has no plan to get away from here however some will almost kick him out. Fact is, he could pass off as a great filibuster, if he must.
Secondly, we all acquire an attitude, one way or other, of wanting to leave FV. Even that one or another who already said they leave, never really left us. They are just at the other side of the river.
If for Renato, this is the best place to be, I have no reason to think otherwise. But trolls, paid hacks, trumps, scoundrels, racist, pseudo-intellectual masturbators, high brow entertainers, people without substance, all sorts of hoi polloi – are all here inhabiting a damn nice place where one is free, YES FREE.
Thanks Nick!
and to which group do you belong – all of the above? oh, i know, but i’m not telling!
Why do i always have to scroll down in great length before i get to the next valid comment?
Liam/GabbyD, why don’t you propose a topic that you think will result in a possibly positive light being cast upon the Philippines then?
Madali naman akong kausapin e. If we identify something objectively positive about the Philippines and about its people collectively, then by all means, I’ll be the first to step up and turn it into another one of my brilliant articles.
Here’s some criteria I propose:
:D It has to be something about a achievement that can be attributed to Filipinos as a people (so none of this citing Manny Pacquiao or Lea Salonga as “evidence” of Pinoy achievement crap, please);
or;
:D It has to be about an asepct of Pinoys as a people that provides reasonably substantiable evidence of “hope” that a brighter future is within our sights;
or;
:D It has to be about something being done fundamentally differently that can be cited as possible evidence of a future that is different from the groundhog-day-like history of the Philippines in the last 50 years;
or any combination of the above three.
Quite a simple and reasonable set of criteria, yes?
OK! lets play this game. on criteria 1, can you give an example of an achievement that is attributable to a people (as opposed to a class, i.e. jews, etc, or a person, or a profession scientists)?
no answer GabbyD. the cup overfloweth, heheh.
yeah, i was hoping to get an answer so as to know what is an example of an achievement that is attributable to a people, VS persons VS a person
If a Filipino won the Nobel Peace Prize, it would be attributed to his education and cultural upbringing as a “Filipino People” I suppose . . . say by sitting down with MILF and the Govmt and being the architect of a long and lasting peace.
Or a Pulitzer is probably simpler. The Inquirer is getting close with it’s editorial blasts. Someone just needs to notify the prize-people mebbee.
Or invent an efficient way to turn crap into energy. That signifies a way to use the People’s natural resources.
Joe
thats exactly my point of confusion with b0′s game. when is an acheivement by a people, VS persons , or VS a person. some thinkers even think that nations are artificial and misleading constructs.
the only time a people is credited is when there are no records to show there was a specific person involved, coz of the fact no one recorded who invented it.
Indeed. :D
Communists will throw you in jail or in Work camps. If you disagree
with them. Look at what happened in Communist Russia, Cambodia, Cuba,etc..
kung kumonista si Nick, na-banish ka na renato!
Bert:
If the venerable anti-fascist would have it, he will exercise fascism to rid the comment threads of Renato :lol:
Renato, after reading your post 999 times who wants to read it again. ako lang ang matiyaga, heheh.
ako din bert, kaya ako nandito palagi para di magbasa ng posts kundi para basahin ang comment ni renata
why? what about renato’s comments do you like?