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		<title>By: Lee Angelo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee Angelo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 04:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cannot agree  more with Sir Gil&#039;s statement &quot;Kilosbayan, Padaca, Panlilio, Rebredo and the real brains working on the reform movement AT THIS TIME will NOT REVEAL their game plans for 2010. It will be fatal to do that.&quot;  When I read your e-mail about this topic last week, I didn&#039;t believe that they don&#039;t have a definite gameplan.  Well, this is really the case especially if your going up against the &quot;trapos&quot;.  You cannot really profess on how you plan to win the elections, what you tell should be limited on the visions and the things you want to change for the greater good, or else they&#039;ll eat you alive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cannot agree  more with Sir Gil&#8217;s statement &#8220;Kilosbayan, Padaca, Panlilio, Rebredo and the real brains working on the reform movement AT THIS TIME will NOT REVEAL their game plans for 2010. It will be fatal to do that.&#8221;  When I read your e-mail about this topic last week, I didn&#8217;t believe that they don&#8217;t have a definite gameplan.  Well, this is really the case especially if your going up against the &#8220;trapos&#8221;.  You cannot really profess on how you plan to win the elections, what you tell should be limited on the visions and the things you want to change for the greater good, or else they&#8217;ll eat you alive.</p>
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		<title>By: J</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/the-need-for-a-gameplan/comment-page-1#comment-8029</link>
		<dc:creator>J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 07:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gil Santos&#039; email response:

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Kilosbayan, Padaca, Panlilio, Rebredo and the  real brains working on the reform movement AT THIS TIME will NOT REVEAL their game plans for 2010.   It will be fatal to do that.  That will give the trapos, specially those working with the current politicians in office (who are scared of losing their powers because that means income and lots and lots of money), the time and methodology to shoot these plans down.   

This is now a case where tighter security is applied by the people who are really working for the reforns.  This the time when secrecy are tightly guarded and information is given only to those who must know, and when.  

This is the time for political intelligence to work and it must be presumed that all political analysts (of whichever camp or party) are doing exactly that.   It is alright for ideas to be tossed around but do not expect the complete game plan will be made public at all.  

To any critical thinker/writer there will always be questions to ask.  You may not get the answers but expect the brains to give you only what they want you to know.   This is precisely the reason you and every thinking voters should be asking questions.  You must have your own set of data and information to base your decision.  This is exactly what the honest media must do so the citizens are enlightened.   

For this same reason, we must not just accept the printed or aired or blogged information served to us.  Do your own analysis and make your own decision, because that will be your vote.  Consult with friends and trusted analysists only.  Then cross your fingers hard in the hope that you are not doublecrossed or fed with the misinformation.   

Politics in DEMOCRATIC  Philippines -- particularly since 1946-- is not a ideological tool whereby  HONESTY is upheld supreme.  We have warped and twisted politics and honesty to be &quot;pragmatic&quot;  and something to be molded and used for personal convenience.   

This does not mean I am preaching hopelessness or resignation to a corruption-anchored future for the country.   Indeed, Padaca and Kilosbayan were here just to open the eyes of your generation that there is hope--and we must all take the first step forward.  

The country has taken the first step backward when we became ideologically empty in the Cory Aquino regime. Now let us take the ten  forward steps to go on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gil Santos&#8217; email response:</p>
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<p>Kilosbayan, Padaca, Panlilio, Rebredo and the  real brains working on the reform movement AT THIS TIME will NOT REVEAL their game plans for 2010.   It will be fatal to do that.  That will give the trapos, specially those working with the current politicians in office (who are scared of losing their powers because that means income and lots and lots of money), the time and methodology to shoot these plans down.   </p>
<p>This is now a case where tighter security is applied by the people who are really working for the reforns.  This the time when secrecy are tightly guarded and information is given only to those who must know, and when.  </p>
<p>This is the time for political intelligence to work and it must be presumed that all political analysts (of whichever camp or party) are doing exactly that.   It is alright for ideas to be tossed around but do not expect the complete game plan will be made public at all.  </p>
<p>To any critical thinker/writer there will always be questions to ask.  You may not get the answers but expect the brains to give you only what they want you to know.   This is precisely the reason you and every thinking voters should be asking questions.  You must have your own set of data and information to base your decision.  This is exactly what the honest media must do so the citizens are enlightened.   </p>
<p>For this same reason, we must not just accept the printed or aired or blogged information served to us.  Do your own analysis and make your own decision, because that will be your vote.  Consult with friends and trusted analysists only.  Then cross your fingers hard in the hope that you are not doublecrossed or fed with the misinformation.   </p>
<p>Politics in DEMOCRATIC  Philippines &#8212; particularly since 1946&#8211; is not a ideological tool whereby  HONESTY is upheld supreme.  We have warped and twisted politics and honesty to be &#8220;pragmatic&#8221;  and something to be molded and used for personal convenience.   </p>
<p>This does not mean I am preaching hopelessness or resignation to a corruption-anchored future for the country.   Indeed, Padaca and Kilosbayan were here just to open the eyes of your generation that there is hope&#8211;and we must all take the first step forward.  </p>
<p>The country has taken the first step backward when we became ideologically empty in the Cory Aquino regime. Now let us take the ten  forward steps to go on.</p>
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		<title>By: J</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/the-need-for-a-gameplan/comment-page-1#comment-8028</link>
		<dc:creator>J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 07:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cvj: I agree on your point that gameplan should make sure backroom horse trading would be irrelevane. But I don&#039;t lose hope on the reformist officials. My take is they aren&#039;t very vocal on the Garci issue because they are busy carrying out their crusades in their localities.

Ding, I agree. That&#039;s why Panlilio should be really clever. If he fails, it will take ages before another of his kind emerges. Because if he fails, the people could lose hope in good governance.

And yes, DJB, I hold no illussions about Edsa II. It was a coup d&#039;etat that raped the Constitutions.

Now why don&#039;t we get to work and start thinking about ousting these trapos (and eventually the Oligarchs)? :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cvj: I agree on your point that gameplan should make sure backroom horse trading would be irrelevane. But I don&#8217;t lose hope on the reformist officials. My take is they aren&#8217;t very vocal on the Garci issue because they are busy carrying out their crusades in their localities.</p>
<p>Ding, I agree. That&#8217;s why Panlilio should be really clever. If he fails, it will take ages before another of his kind emerges. Because if he fails, the people could lose hope in good governance.</p>
<p>And yes, DJB, I hold no illussions about Edsa II. It was a coup d&#8217;etat that raped the Constitutions.</p>
<p>Now why don&#8217;t we get to work and start thinking about ousting these trapos (and eventually the Oligarchs)? :D</p>
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		<title>By: There can be no gameplan &#171; smoke</title>
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		<dc:creator>There can be no gameplan &#171; smoke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 07:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] can be no&#160;gameplan  Posted on 8 September 2008 by rom   Over at Filipino Voices, J echoes an oft-repeated plea. 2010 is just two years away. We who love this country should get our acts [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] can be no&nbsp;gameplan  Posted on 8 September 2008 by rom   Over at Filipino Voices, J echoes an oft-repeated plea. 2010 is just two years away. We who love this country should get our acts [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Blog 2.0 &#124; Filipino Voices</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/the-need-for-a-gameplan/comment-page-1#comment-8025</link>
		<dc:creator>Blog 2.0 &#124; Filipino Voices</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 07:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] head. Those words are as good as a signed blank check. Same thing with politicians. You ask them to come up with a game plan for us, and they do precisely that &#8212; pull one out of their arses. And we are none the wiser about [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] head. Those words are as good as a signed blank check. Same thing with politicians. You ask them to come up with a game plan for us, and they do precisely that &#8212; pull one out of their arses. And we are none the wiser about [...]</p>
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		<title>By: cvj</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/the-need-for-a-gameplan/comment-page-1#comment-7988</link>
		<dc:creator>cvj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 01:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There will always be the tendency for those in power to engage in backroom conspiracies. Let the politicians and powerbrokers do what they want to do since that is in their nature, but let that not be an excuse for us (the ordinary citizen) to compromise our principles.  The objective of any &#039;gameplan&#039; (whether it involves &lt;i&gt;people power&lt;/i&gt; or participation in the electoral processes) is to make sure that such backroom conspiracies become irrelevant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There will always be the tendency for those in power to engage in backroom conspiracies. Let the politicians and powerbrokers do what they want to do since that is in their nature, but let that not be an excuse for us (the ordinary citizen) to compromise our principles.  The objective of any &#8216;gameplan&#8217; (whether it involves <i>people power</i> or participation in the electoral processes) is to make sure that such backroom conspiracies become irrelevant.</p>
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		<title>By: Dean Jorge Bocobo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dean Jorge Bocobo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 00:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>J,
The story of GMA does not start with Garci in 2004. There is no need to get down on the &quot;Middle Class&quot; as CVJ does, because even in 2001 they were just props for a coup d&#039;etat involving the supreme court chief justice, the csafp and the vice president colluding with the Church to overthrow the President.   Thus Edsa Dos saw a Death Pact between GMA and the Supreme Court -- which seems to be holding up pretty well.

Of course if you believe in or are deceived by the illusion that Erap fell because of &quot;People Power&quot; then of course you will be disappointed in the Middle Class&#039; &quot;reformist credentials&quot; since 2004 and the Garci Scandal. 

Unfortunately, mob rule breeds MOB Rule. 

Now, Chavit Singson, allegedly the lord of jueteng and smuggling in Ilokoslovakia,  is Deputy National Security Advisor. GMA has no intentions of leaving in 2010. The old gang is intact, (except for the softy cry babies who really thought GMA represented a revolution then reform!). They cannot afford to let go of power. So they won&#039;t. They have control of the Supreme Court and the MIlitary. There is severe turbulence in the economy.  War in Mindanao. Food inflation, oil and energy crises, dogs sleeping with cats.  What more could a budding dictator want, or need, to rule a nation that George Schultz once described as 75 million cowards and one sonofabitch?

So the question is: What&#039;s GMA&#039;s game plan?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J,<br />
The story of GMA does not start with Garci in 2004. There is no need to get down on the &#8220;Middle Class&#8221; as CVJ does, because even in 2001 they were just props for a coup d&#8217;etat involving the supreme court chief justice, the csafp and the vice president colluding with the Church to overthrow the President.   Thus Edsa Dos saw a Death Pact between GMA and the Supreme Court &#8212; which seems to be holding up pretty well.</p>
<p>Of course if you believe in or are deceived by the illusion that Erap fell because of &#8220;People Power&#8221; then of course you will be disappointed in the Middle Class&#8217; &#8220;reformist credentials&#8221; since 2004 and the Garci Scandal. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, mob rule breeds MOB Rule. </p>
<p>Now, Chavit Singson, allegedly the lord of jueteng and smuggling in Ilokoslovakia,  is Deputy National Security Advisor. GMA has no intentions of leaving in 2010. The old gang is intact, (except for the softy cry babies who really thought GMA represented a revolution then reform!). They cannot afford to let go of power. So they won&#8217;t. They have control of the Supreme Court and the MIlitary. There is severe turbulence in the economy.  War in Mindanao. Food inflation, oil and energy crises, dogs sleeping with cats.  What more could a budding dictator want, or need, to rule a nation that George Schultz once described as 75 million cowards and one sonofabitch?</p>
<p>So the question is: What&#8217;s GMA&#8217;s game plan?</p>
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		<title>By: Ding G. Gagelonia</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/the-need-for-a-gameplan/comment-page-1#comment-7968</link>
		<dc:creator>Ding G. Gagelonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 21:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apart from us, J the likes of Padaca and Panlilos also meed a game plan. It is not enough for political novatos to get elected on the crest of anti-trapo popular will. They must be able to harness their own LGUs&#039; bureaucracy to take the refornist path of good, accountable and transparent governance without becoming co-opted themselves by &#039;the system of SOPs and the &#039;people in the woodwork. Take Among Ed, for instance he is grappling with the entrenched interests of thew jueting culture ibn Pampanga and his own inner circle of advisers are fighting among themselves and those he helped elect him into office are also impatient to &#039;cash in their chips&#039; with moist eyes in the direction of the quarrying operations.

Even those from the AIM and the Ateneo are at a loss sometimes about how to handle the priest-turned-politician. No, Among Ed is not being eaten up by the system but political craft-work is such a complicated task of balancing competing interests and cobbling together productive consensus that Pampanga is not moving forward as well as it should.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apart from us, J the likes of Padaca and Panlilos also meed a game plan. It is not enough for political novatos to get elected on the crest of anti-trapo popular will. They must be able to harness their own LGUs&#8217; bureaucracy to take the refornist path of good, accountable and transparent governance without becoming co-opted themselves by &#8216;the system of SOPs and the &#8216;people in the woodwork. Take Among Ed, for instance he is grappling with the entrenched interests of thew jueting culture ibn Pampanga and his own inner circle of advisers are fighting among themselves and those he helped elect him into office are also impatient to &#8216;cash in their chips&#8217; with moist eyes in the direction of the quarrying operations.</p>
<p>Even those from the AIM and the Ateneo are at a loss sometimes about how to handle the priest-turned-politician. No, Among Ed is not being eaten up by the system but political craft-work is such a complicated task of balancing competing interests and cobbling together productive consensus that Pampanga is not moving forward as well as it should.</p>
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		<title>By: cvj</title>
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		<dc:creator>cvj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 16:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &#039;reformist&#039; credentials of the Philippine Middle Class is questionable because of its role in tolerating Hello Garci.  The thing is, it shows its reformist side selectively and self-servingly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8216;reformist&#8217; credentials of the Philippine Middle Class is questionable because of its role in tolerating Hello Garci.  The thing is, it shows its reformist side selectively and self-servingly.</p>
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