The Prisoner Abuse Photos Pres. Obama Doesn’t Want Us To See
May 18th, 2009 by Ding G. Gagelonia
Almost no comment is necessary. In this montage are 7 of the 16 images published by the U.K. Telegraph drawn from the material first aired by the Australian TV Network SBS.
There are reportedly some 7,000 such images portraying prisoner abuse in Iraq which U.S. Pres. Barack Obama has withheld publication of in the American press.
There is no information thus far about when and exactly where in Iraq these incidents took place.
But they come to light two weeks before Mr. Obama’s visit to Egypt where he will be making a major speech to the Arab world, his first since his inauguration.
These will undoubtedly present Pres. Obama his biggest foreign police headache in his young presidency.
While Mr. Obama has ordered a stop to the infamous “enhanced terogation techniques’ like waterboarding used by his predecessor the ghost of Iraqi prisoners abuses is a haunting that he’ll have to exorcise at the soonest time possible.
*(Cross-posted @ At Midfield)
May 18, 2009 at 2:08 pm
I’m not sure I understand the relevancy to the Philippines, unless it is to continue to portray America as a a vicious, arrogant thug, thereby raising the Philippines up by putting America down. Mr. Obama will deal with it to the best of his ability, which is considerable in comparison to the president who was the architect of the unfortunate policies that led to the photos. Also, bottom line, one need remember the horror of the men and women who died in the attack on the World Trade Center. That is the horror that drives the sometimes misguided vengance we see in these photos. Show the photos of the firefighters, the fathers and sons, daughters and mothers, running up the stairs to save innocent people when the buildings fell. Or the bodies plastered on the sidewalks below, because the fire was too hot up above. War is Hell, but America didn’t start this particular one.
Joe
May 21, 2009 at 9:43 am
dapat nga, mas marami pa ang mga post na ganito. isang dapat makita ng mga tao, maging dito sa Pilipinas, ang mabilis na nalalantad na “pagbabagong” hatid ni Obama. nakikita na hindi naman talaga pagbabago ito na paglayo o pagbaliktad sa mga naunang patakaran ng administrasyong Bush, kundi pagpapatuloy lang sa yugto ng pansamantalang pag-atras ng oriohinal na plano mismo dulot ng mga pagkatalo at hindi pa dulot ni Obama.
hindi rin masasagot ng mga litrato ng mga bumbero at amerikanong namatay sa WTC, dahil kahit gaano karaming namatay sa gusaling iyon, at iba pang “pagbagsak” ng eroplano noon, hindi niyon binibigyan ng karapatan ang US na gawin ang mga litrato sa itaas.
ngayon, kakatwang banggitin mo ang 9/11. bakit hindi lang ang mga litrato ng namatay noon ang tingnan mo, bakit hindi mo rin basahin ang mga ulat at imbestigasyon sa kung sino talaga ang nasa likod ng pag-atakeng iyon. America didn’t start these war? sino ba ang sumugod sa Afghanistan, tapos sa Iraq? sa afghanistan, pwede mong sabihin na dahil nandoon si bin Laden. pero ang Iraq, paano mo ipapaliwanag ito kung saan nakuha ang mga litratong ito?
at tama ang sinabi ni Ding G. Gagelonia. ang patakaran ni Arroyo dito sa Pilipinas ay carbon copy ng patakaran ni Bush, at nagpapatuloy ngayon kay Obama, sa bahagyang nagbagong anyo.
May 21, 2009 at 12:28 pm
Diwa, you are right. If publication of such photos will stop such uncivilized behavior anywhere, publish away. I was merely striving for context, that there is a reason for the chain of events that led to the photos, and the reasons – from an American perspective – are anger about 9/11. You are right about Iraq. It was a mistake and had little to do with 9/11 other than a US attempt to remake the Middle East in its favor. Obama voted against funding of the war when he was in the Senate. He is a very, very different man than Bush, and time will certify this. However, he inherited the prisons and the prisoners and the photos and has to figure out what is in the best interest of the US. His view, as I understand it, is not to release “old news” that will inflame anti-American sentiment and make the job of stabilizing Iraq, Afghanastan and now Pakistan harder. I would merely ask, bottom line, that any condemnation of US policies and practices be accompanied by condemnation of the religious extremism and ruthlessness that is the root cause of the wars and regression of man into animal.
Joe
May 21, 2009 at 2:41 pm
of course, marami ang magsasabi na ibang-iba si Obama kay Bush. at masyado pang maaga, para sa iba, na makita na walang pundamental na paglayo si Obama kay Bush. sa tingin ko, hindi naman masasabing inilabas lang ang mga litratong ito dahil gustong lumikha ng anti-american sentiment, kundi dahil mali ang ginawa ng US sa mga taong ito, at ito ang di mapapasubaliang ebidensya. at hindi dapat makalimutan ito, dahil hindi pa naman nasasara ang usapin. hindi pa napapanagot ang mga may kasalanan, ni hindi pa nga nakikita ang buong programa ng interogasyon.
hindi ito anti-american propaganda lang. marami ang nagagalit sa US dahil sa aktwal na mga ginagawa nito sa iba’t ibang bahagi ng daigdig. at ang lalong ikinakagalit ng mga tao, ang paggamit mismo ng US sa “muslim extremist” para paypayan ang galit ng mga amerikano laban sa mga muslim, at mabigyan ng katwiran sa gayon ang kanilang “war on terror.” tandaan mo na nagsimula ang lahat ng ito sa simpleng akusasyon ng US sa mga muslim, sinasabi partikular kay bin laden, at dinala na niya ang buong US, kung kinaya pa nga, ang buong daigdig, sa isang gera laban sa buong Afghanistan, tapos sa Iraq. gusto pa sana nilang idamay ang Iran, Syria, Turkey, N. Korea. iyan ang tunay na pangunahing dahilan ng mga gulo sa ME, ngayon, lumalaganap na ito sa bahagi ng S Asia.
iyan ang tunay na war-mongering. at ang mga litratong lumabas, resulta iyan ng war of terror. ni hindi nga gawa ng mga “extremist” iyan.
May 21, 2009 at 5:02 pm
So your point is that the US is responsible for all the world’s troubles, is basically a sinister nation, and that there is nothing wrong with the programs and policies of Muslim extremists.
I don’t know what to say, really. For you, it is okay if South Korea is attacked by the North (has nothing to do with Muslim extremists), okay if Israel is wiped off the face of the planet by an Iranian nuke, okay if women in Pakistan are yanked from schools and stoned to death, okay if Catholics in Mindanao are beheaded. You would prefer that America abandoned those who depend on her for their security and freedom.
The US favors democracy and freedom. No question. This crosses paths and swords with those who seek domination for other ideals. I’ll stick with the US view, thanks. You are free to choose your friends, too.
Joe
May 22, 2009 at 11:11 am
yeah, right. at dahil maraming gustong pumunta sa US ay mali ako. hahaha. you think you have figured out nicole, dahil lang pumunta na siya sa US. well, good luck na lang sa’yo diyan sa US.
May 21, 2009 at 6:46 pm
well, ang problema naman kasi sa iyo, kinukuha mo ang mga sinasabi ng gubyerno ng US (na terorista ang afghanistan, terorista ang iraq, terorista ang iran, terorista ang nokor, terorista ang mga muslim, etc.), at kahit walang anumang patunay sa mga paratang na ito, iginigiit mo na ito ang tanging katotohanan at dapat paniwalaan. at mula sa mga paratang na ito, sinasabi mong, tamang lusubin na nga ang mga bansang ito?
mali ang “muslim extremism?” hindi ko alam, kaya nga inilalagay ko sa quotations dahil ano ba ang sinasabi mong muslim extremism?
kung tatanungin mo ako sa mga partikular na usapin, doon ako makakasagot sa iyo. halimbawa dito sa pilipinas, mali ang ginagawa ng abu sayaff. malayo naman sa “muslim extremism” ang ginagawa nila, maski nga sa pagiging muslim. hindi naman islam ang ipinaglalaban nila. sa milf, hindi ko sila masisisi, daan taon ang ugat ng kanilang laban, sino naman ako para makialam. ganun din ang sa ibang bansa. halimbawa sa iraq, sa tingin ko, batay sa mga lumalabas na mga papel tungkol kay saddam, may mga mali sa kanyang pamamalakad, mga pagmamalabis. kailangan bang baguhin ang iraq? hindi ko alam, dahil wala naman tayong pakialam sa bansa iyon. may kasarinlan ang bansang iyon. dapat iginagalang natin ang soberanya ng mamamayang iraqi. kung gusto nilang baguhin ang iraq, sila ang magpapasya. at hindi dapat nakikialam ang isang bansa, na nasa kabilang dulo ng mundo.
ang problema sa iyo, pinapakitid mo ang usapin, na para lang pelikula, labanan ng mabuti at masama. para sa iyo, ang US ang mabuti, kaya kahit ano pang gawin nito ay tama basta’t laban sa masama. at sa tingin ko, ang pagpapakitid mo sa usapin ay ibinubunga ng makitid mo ring pag-unawa.
May 22, 2009 at 5:14 am
Frankly, I’d work better in English, as I am not sure I am getting all of your important points correctly. I fear we are talking past one another due to language, cultural and perhaps ideological differences.
I don’t know what you want me to admit to. That the US makes mistakes? Sure. That my information is imperfect, whereas yours is somehow perfect? Yes to the former; I doubt it to the latter.
I get information from the US government, yes. Also the US press (which is varied, free and aggressive), world press including Philippine press (two beheadings in Mindanao last week), my television (watching the World Trade Center towers collapse), the internet (FV and other sites). I make up my own mind on issues and often disagree with the US Government, as I am free to do.
Where do you get your information? From the village idiot?
I lived on Mindanao for three years. I understand Muslim desires for their homeland; I think it is just impractical to go back in time. It is also more civilized if faiths use compassion and love to reach out to others instead of beheadings.
I agree with you that individual countries should be free to govern as they choose and the US has no business overthrowing governments. As I said, the US war in Iraq was misguided for that specific reason. But when Iran threatens to wipe Israel off the planet, the US should not stand aside and watch. Right now, I suspect the US is working hard to restrain Israel from trying to wipe Iran off the face of the planet. There are hundreds of thousands of Iranians living in the US and millions of Jews. The US government is biased against neither, and FOR both, as peoples.
The US has clear ambitions for the Middle East – a region of democracies. That is a rather obnoxious agenda for those who wish to promote their single ideology.
The term “warmonger” along with notions such as the “Great Satan” are put forward by those who toe a narrow totalitarian line, those with an intent to rule by means other than free expression. Russia used it. China. North Korea. Cuba. Venezuela lately. Muslim communities within many countries use it. It works for a time to rally anger, but the lie eventually becomes evident and the US becomes a partner.
The US welcomed one million immigrants as new citizens in 2008. One million. People from Asia, Europe, the Middle East. Everywhere. The Philippines, certainly. Catholics, Muslims, Protestants, agnostics, atheists, maybe even a Zoroastrian or two. The new citizens chose the US for its opportunity and for the comfort of being able to hold onto one’s ethnic or religious values without being condemned, threatened, stoned, beheaded or anything but respected.
The Philippines is going through a rough patch with the US due to a rape accusation and the unbalanced treatment of prisoners in the VFA. But things will settle down soon. The US is a good friend to the Philippines. Overbearing, yes, especially under President Bush. Pushy. But you can push back, too. As the Philippines should. And the US will remain a friend.
Why? Because the great majority of Philippine people believe in American ideals and they know the US is no Great Satan.
As for Iran, North Korea, Syria, or Muslim communities seeking to impose strict beliefs and lifestyles on others — the US cannot bend in its values, so conflict is almost certain at some level.
Joe
May 22, 2009 at 6:22 am
1. pasensya na. sa tagalog ko lang kaya talaga ipahayag ang mga naiisip ko. baka pagnagtangka ako sa ingles lalo mo akong hindi maintindihan. kaya paumanhin.
2. iyon lang ba ang nakuha mo sa world press, pagpugot ng abu sayyaf ng ulo at pagbomba sa wtc? (curious lang) ako, oo, sa village idiot ko nakukuha ang mga impormasyon ko. sayang nga lang, hindi pa ako nakakapunta sa iran, at iba pang bansang binanggit mo, kaya hindi ko lubos na alam ang saloobin ng village idiot doon.
3. pakitangnan na lang sa US media kung ano ba ang tawag ng US sa cuba, kay fidel castro, sa nokor, sa vietnam noong araw, kay lenin, para malaman mo kung sino ba ang gumamit ng “great satan” propaganda.
4. ang punto ko lang, sa kabuuan ng mga sagot ko, hindi totoong demokrasya ang ipinapalaganap ng US sa mundo. halimbawa sa middle east. hindi naman sila pumunta doon para mangaral ng demokrasya. pero opinyon ko lang iyon. pero ang punto ko, opinyon lang rin ng US na walang demokrasya sa mga bansang ginera nila, na mga diktador ang mga gubyerno dito, terorista, at kung anu-ano pa. at kahit totoo pa ito, walang karapatan ang US na manghimasok. hindi lang simpleng bully ang gubyernong US. daan-daan libo ang pinatay nila sa iraq, para ano? para sa langis! pabalat lang dito ang demokrasya. bakit gusto rin nilang salakayin ang iran? kasi nakaharang sila sa dadaanan ng langis na ito papunta sa indian ocean. at ganoon din sa iba pang bansa sa ME na lumalaban sa US policies, gusto nilang mawala ang mga ito para ganap na makontrol ang rehiyong ito para sa langis. pero opinyon ko lang ang mga ito, kaya wag kang mag-alala. hindi ako lulusob sa US para ipwersa sa kanila ang mga opinyon ko at ang demokrasyang dala ko.
ganito ko na lang tatapusin, sa mga tanong: ikaw mismo umaamin na mali ang US sa iraq (di bale na ang daan-daang libong pinatay nila), paano mo nalalaman ngayon na hindi rin mali ang sinasabi ng US na gumagawa ng nuclear weapons ang iran at nokor kaya gusto nilang gerahin? at batay sa mga akusasyong ito, sang-ayon ka na na lusubin ng US ang mga bansang ito, sa ngalan ng “demokrasya” nila?
May 22, 2009 at 6:30 am
paano mo nalalaman ngayon na hindi rin mali ang sinasabi ng US na gumagawa ng nuclear weapons ang iran at nokor kaya gusto nilang gerahin? at batay sa mga akusasyong ito, sang-ayon ka na na lusubin ng US ang mga bansang ito, sa ngalan ng “demokrasya” nila?
The 9/11 commission has addressed those issues – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_Commission
May 22, 2009 at 9:07 am
Okie dokie, Diwa. We’ve had a reasonable dialogue and it is time to move on. That the US is imperfect simply means that neither Jesus Christ nor Mohammed has returned to show Mr. Bush or Mr. Obama how to do it right. American ideals are a threat to no good person, which is why we see as the “World”, including Nicole, vote with its feet and visa applications and aspire to get to the US where they can live safely and freely, excepting for terrorist acts and acts of God (which I daresay are not the same).
Joe
May 18, 2009 at 2:33 pm
We are still a front line partner of America in the war on terror.
We implement a domestic version of the US Patriot Act and have a Human Security Act that has been noted even by the UN Special Rapporteur on Human Rights as a law that has potentially serious implications.
It may interewst you to note that here in the Philippines the number of enforced disappearance continues to rise amont with political killings such as those blamed on the Davao Death Squad.
Two cases are emblematic: those of Jonas Burgos and Rebelyn Pitao.
The berdugo-turned-congressman Jovito Palparan even wants to revive the Anti Subversion Act.
Finally, among human rights activists there are long standing suspicions about torture being pferformed by military intelligence agents on suspected rebels in local versions of black sites.
May 18, 2009 at 2:40 pm
I would like to see the Philippine-American partnership couched in more positive terms, as I think interests are the same. Hearing the cries for trashing of the VFA, one would be inclined to think that America is seeking world dominance while the Philippines is a mere victim. I rather think not, in either case. Nor do I think a rape charge should form the basis for strategic partnership.
May 18, 2009 at 10:51 pm
While it is outrageous to see these kinds of prisoners abuse. How about those Al Queda who behead people on TV. People who are innocent. Their crimes were only because, they are Americans.
This is part of the propaganda strategy of the Terrorist. If they do
it. It is okay. If others do it. It is a crime.
Look at Hamas of the Palestine nation. They fire daily rockets to
Israel, to terrorize the Israelis. when Israel invaded. They show
how they were beaten, to ask for sympathty for the whole world.
If you are a sucker, to fall to the Terrorist propanganda. It is your
fault.
May 18, 2009 at 11:16 pm
those were 5-year-old pics. wait till may 28…
http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:L8drk6veBRsJ:news.yahoo.com/s/time/20090511/us_time/08599189720300+abu+ghraib+photos+may+28&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ph
May 18, 2009 at 11:24 pm
…if barack fails to block.
May 19, 2009 at 2:40 am
europe is haven for ultra liberal leftists and “bleeding-heart” ideologues who argue that americans cannot “torture” their enemies even if it will preserve american lives, while they look the other way when those enemies commit barbaric acts against innocent men, women and children (whether or not prisoners). it is obvious that this group of hypocrites is the source of these pictures.
btw, obama is now waking up to reality that his most important responsibility is the preservation of american lives, not the “human rights” of the evil people who would like to kill them. as a candidate, he could, and did, promise everything to his leftist supporters. as a president, he now knows that there are a few things he could and could not do. there may be many things that george w. bush didn’t do right. but he did right the one highest thing in my scale of values – the preservation of american lives, including mine and my loved ones.
May 21, 2009 at 9:50 am
how do yo know that those people in the pictures were indeed enemies who “commit barbaric acts against innocent men, women and children?” do you personally know them, or there barbaric acts? are you priovy to their case?
napakadaling gamiting excuse ang personal na galit laban sa mga taong ito. pero pinatutunayan ba nitong tama tayo at mali nga ang mga taong ito? madaming namatay sa 9/11, oo. pero ibig sabihin ba nito, pwede na tayong pumunta sa bansa ng sinasabing may kagagawan nito, at tratuhin ang mga mamamayan ng bansang ito, nang walang pagtatangi, basta’t may sapat na SUSPETSA na terorista sila, sa parehong barbariko at brutal na paraan, o mas malala pa? sino ngayon ang hipokrito?
May 19, 2009 at 3:23 am
Realpolitik, Atty. Ben.
@ Joe America,
Your “Nor do I think a rape charge should form the basis for strategic partnership….”
We’re on the same page, but as the even-handed handling, and resolution of sticky cases go, such could be emblematic of unequal relationships.
The historic ties between our countries are writ in shared wartime hardships and blood spilt on the battlefields.
May 19, 2009 at 7:13 am
realpolitik, ding? is that all your excuse for posting this article? how come you didn’t make any mention of it? i think the less said about this so-called “torture” of terrorists, the better for all of us.
May 19, 2009 at 7:44 am
Yes, you yourself know this in terms of the reality of American domestic politics Atty. Ben.
As you correctly say: “…as a president, he now knows that there are a few things he could and could not do. there may be many things that george w. bush didn’t do right. but he did right the one highest thing in my scale of values – the preservation of american lives, including mine and my loved ones.”
That beside, are you issuing a gag order?
Careful, my esteemed legal eagle.
Gag is just one vowel short of GAG-…
You may, likewise care to read back to my reply to Mr. Joe America re his query on my post’s relevance:
“We are still a front line partner of America in the war on terror.
We implement a domestic version of the US Patriot Act and have a Human Security Act that has been noted even by the UN Special Rapporteur on Human Rights as a law that has potentially serious implications.
It may interest you to note that here in the Philippines the number of enforced disappearance continues to rise along with political killings such as those blamed on the Davao Death Squad.
Two cases are emblematic: those of Jonas Burgos and Rebelyn Pitao.
The berdugo-turned-congressman Jovito Palparan even wants to revive the Anti Subversion Act.
Finally, among human rights activists there are long standing suspicions about torture being performed by military intelligence agents on suspected rebels in local versions of black sites.”
Claro que si?
May 19, 2009 at 9:29 am
what gag order are you talking about? no gag “order” is necessary when public safety and/or national security is at stake. it’s a matter of law that has to be observed and obeyed by everyone without being “ordered”.
May 19, 2009 at 10:07 am
Atty. Ben, Atty Ben,
You are getting your mercurial temper get ahead of yourself.
You said here: “I think the less said about this so-called “torture” of terrorists, the better for all of us.”
You, I say, are issuing a virtual GAG order here at FV.
You’ve appointed yourself censor, Atty Ben?
Are you going to call me “punk” next?
You dishonor yourself when you lose your temper. It’s a totally unproductive emotion, anger.
C’mon, you have better kukote than that, dear Sir.
May 20, 2009 at 12:38 am
ding, if you really think about it, i’m sure you’d realize that making a value judgment that saying less about alleged torture of terrorists is better does not equate with making a “virtual gag order” or appointing oneself a “censor”.
no, i won’t call you punk. it doesn’t fit you. you’re too decent for that. but you should read me by now. i can dish it out and i can take it. i don’t lose temper but i usually fight fire, personally directed at me, with fire.
May 19, 2009 at 9:28 pm
I see where Atty Ben is coming from, I see it all too often here in The U.S., it’s a clash of ideologies, such a clash that it turns thinking beings into raving extremists, where dialogue ends and where the likes of Rush Limbaugh are hailed as a sensible voice.
They want us to believe that torture, such as waterboarding is necessary to save us from evil. That there have been cases, (two cited by former Vice President), that have contributed in gaining critical information..
The U.S. wants everyone to uphold international law, but when it comes to them, they are above restrictions on torture..
many “conservatives” fall back on the saving of American lives as their ultimate excuse, well riddle me this, and riddle me that.. is leading by torture creating more terrorists or not? and if it creates more terrorists, which I think it does, then more terrorists mean the possibility of more American lives at stake..
Atty. Ben, Obama is not following in the footsteps of Bush, it just so happens that he has a lot to clean up, this includes these photos of incidents that occurred under the watch of Dubya himself.. He is not condoning the acts, he just so happens realizes the apparent backlash these photos could provide..
May 19, 2009 at 10:26 pm
I can understand where Bencard is coming from.
After all, if my loved ones suffered the same fate as the 9/11 victims – my life’s work will probably be defined as hunting down the perpetrators and bringing punishment and retribution.. or NOT.
I will have my own dilemma as well, if I do catch a prisoner – I will deal with the urge of having to choke or blast my enemy’s head apart as he has done with my loved ones or to provide him his rights accorded by the Geneva Protocol (knowing very well he will not observe it if the roles were reversed).
As I was watching last night’s episode of Star Trek – a statement caught my attention – “How can the Federation proudly shout its morality on the history and blood of dead bodies and the innocents of the nations it raped, pillaged, and massacred?”
Knowing the deeper causes of why my loved ones died – access to oil while promoting oppression of the arab masses by arab despots in the name of freedom to drive an SUV – also provides for some restraint – whether I am barking at the right tree.
I will probably subscribe to a measure which is on the border line – it is nearly there, but not there yet.
May 20, 2009 at 4:01 am
Sana mabiktima ka ng terrorist attack at mabuhay ka. Tingnan natin kung sasabihin mo pa rin yan.
May 20, 2009 at 4:02 am
Tingnan natin kung sasabihin mo pa rin yan Nick.
May 20, 2009 at 2:36 am
I enjoy torture!
I want to run for cabinet position in Enhanced Invistigation Department :)
May 20, 2009 at 2:39 am
America has not learned from Filipinos. In fact, we only got a footnote regarding our enhanced merciful interrogation that benefited the Filipinos from future PAL bombing.
It took our patriots less than a day to solve the bomb paraphernalia in Manila while America took several years to wring information from Guantanamo.
May 20, 2009 at 2:50 am
Dang,
One ought to see how the PNP, AFP, NBI torture detainees – they will make Gitmo look like a walk in the park.
You know, where they have suspects sit on a block of ice – naked! No CIA needed – suspects will confess to anything – even shooting JFK :lol:
May 20, 2009 at 2:53 am
I remember an email or a page I came across nearly a decade or half a decade ago.
-oOo-
The NBI (National Bureau of Investigation), the AFP
(Armed Forces of the Philippines), and the PNP (Philippine National Police)
get into an argument over who is the best at apprehending criminals.
The President decides to test them. She releases a rabbit into
a forest and each of them has to catch it.
The NBI goes first. They place animal informants throughout the forest.
They question all plant and mineral witnesses.
After three months of extensive investigation, they conclude that rabbits do not exist.
The AFP goes in.
After two weeks with no leads, they burn the forest, killing everything in it.
They make no apologies: “The rabbit deserved it.”
The PNP goes in.
They come out two hours later with a badly beaten bear.
The bear is yelling, “Okay, okay, I’m a rabbit, I’m a rabbit.”
:lol:
May 20, 2009 at 6:04 am
At Cannes a Filipino film vying for top honors is an opus titled ‘Kinatay’ which portrays cop who so got carried away by the passion of their having arrested a suspect that they raped and killed her then dismembered her body.
Art imitates life.
Copy on you points above Atty. Ben.
May 21, 2009 at 7:00 pm
I have this feeling that the reason that Indonesian-on-Indonesian, Chinese-on-Chinese, Iranian-on-Iranian, Filipinos-on-Filipinos or Greek-on-Greek torture-photos have not come out is simply based on economics. The government personnel inside those torture-prisons do not have cameras nor camera cellphones.
May 21, 2009 at 7:04 pm
what? at paano nakuha ang mga litrato kung walang camera?