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		<title>By: Edward</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/the-return-of-systems-loss/comment-page-1#comment-121185</link>
		<dc:creator>Edward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 23:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry joe,

all fact-based news and documentaries

I believe that there was an inside job. This was supported by undeniable publicly available facts.
http://www.911truth.org/
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-403757/Fury-academics-claim-9-11-inside-job.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Academics claim 911 Inside Job&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://rt.com/Top_News/2009-10-13/victims-families-continue-fight.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Victim&#039;s Families continue fight for new 9/11 probe&lt;/a&gt;

This is remeniscent of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_Incident&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Gulf of Tonkin Incident&lt;/a&gt; when Lyndon Johnson &quot;created&quot; a story to have congress pass the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution to justify US Military in getting involved in a war. This time its more intricate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry joe,</p>
<p>all fact-based news and documentaries</p>
<p>I believe that there was an inside job. This was supported by undeniable publicly available facts.<br />
<a href="http://www.911truth.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.911truth.org/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-403757/Fury-academics-claim-9-11-inside-job.html" rel="nofollow"> Academics claim 911 Inside Job</a><br />
<a href="http://rt.com/Top_News/2009-10-13/victims-families-continue-fight.html" rel="nofollow">Victim&#8217;s Families continue fight for new 9/11 probe</a></p>
<p>This is remeniscent of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_Incident" rel="nofollow">Gulf of Tonkin Incident</a> when Lyndon Johnson &#8220;created&#8221; a story to have congress pass the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution to justify US Military in getting involved in a war. This time its more intricate.</p>
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		<title>By: Dean de la Paz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dean de la Paz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 12:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear J_ag,

If you are talking about investment bankers in the U.S., then I agree. In fact, there should be another Sarbanes-Oxley type of legislation that should prevent recurrences which are sure to occur because many of the crooks did not only get away, they were rewarded.

Regards,
Dean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear J_ag,</p>
<p>If you are talking about investment bankers in the U.S., then I agree. In fact, there should be another Sarbanes-Oxley type of legislation that should prevent recurrences which are sure to occur because many of the crooks did not only get away, they were rewarded.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Dean</p>
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		<title>By: Joe America</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 12:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Edward,

So who was it, do you figure, who flew the two planes into the WTC? Maybe like the landing on the moon, it was done in Hollywood, eh? The threads don&#039;t go back to Osama Bin Laden at all; they go to Spielberg maybe.

Ummm, I am worried for you here, Edward . . . you have maybe read one too many action movies or read one too many spy novels.

Joe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Edward,</p>
<p>So who was it, do you figure, who flew the two planes into the WTC? Maybe like the landing on the moon, it was done in Hollywood, eh? The threads don&#8217;t go back to Osama Bin Laden at all; they go to Spielberg maybe.</p>
<p>Ummm, I am worried for you here, Edward . . . you have maybe read one too many action movies or read one too many spy novels.</p>
<p>Joe</p>
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		<title>By: Edward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 07:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even the Philippines is colonizing its rural ares and I  am not partial into condemning it. Philippine colonialism has produced many warlords and rebels that beset the countryside. I think the same happens at a global scale.

As of the 9/11 I believe the attacks are suspicious. It&#039;s not the first time the U.S. made a false flag alert to justify occupying another country. That&#039;s why many call Afghanistan the new Vietnam. Up to now the referendum into investigating the 9/11 attacks are not given a chance by the U.S. Gov&#039;t.

&lt;i&gt;Failed states can no longer perform basic functions such as education, security, or governance, usually due to fractious violence or extreme poverty. Within this power vacuum, people fall victim to competing factions and crime, and sometimes the United Nations or neighboring states intervene to prevent a humanitarian disaster. However, states fail not only because of internal factors. Foreign governments can also knowingly destabilize a state by fueling ethnic warfare or supporting rebel forces, causing it to collapse.&lt;/i&gt;

Shortly before the attack on Iraq, the hatred between Sunis and Shiites became worse and worse. Guess who has the most number of spies in other countries. I smell a rat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even the Philippines is colonizing its rural ares and I  am not partial into condemning it. Philippine colonialism has produced many warlords and rebels that beset the countryside. I think the same happens at a global scale.</p>
<p>As of the 9/11 I believe the attacks are suspicious. It&#8217;s not the first time the U.S. made a false flag alert to justify occupying another country. That&#8217;s why many call Afghanistan the new Vietnam. Up to now the referendum into investigating the 9/11 attacks are not given a chance by the U.S. Gov&#8217;t.</p>
<p><i>Failed states can no longer perform basic functions such as education, security, or governance, usually due to fractious violence or extreme poverty. Within this power vacuum, people fall victim to competing factions and crime, and sometimes the United Nations or neighboring states intervene to prevent a humanitarian disaster. However, states fail not only because of internal factors. Foreign governments can also knowingly destabilize a state by fueling ethnic warfare or supporting rebel forces, causing it to collapse.</i></p>
<p>Shortly before the attack on Iraq, the hatred between Sunis and Shiites became worse and worse. Guess who has the most number of spies in other countries. I smell a rat.</p>
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		<title>By: ChitoC</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChitoC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 04:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dean:

Thanks for the info.  I will get in touch with Mr. Ilagan.  And I hope you can get the ERC to really find a way to protect the consumers. with the big players of the industry, one can never know what is going on behind the scenes.

So maybe there should be some kind of an educational fund for consumers (and maybe even for the ERC!) so we can all learn the language that only those in the power industry understand.

Many thanks and I will keep following your posts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dean:</p>
<p>Thanks for the info.  I will get in touch with Mr. Ilagan.  And I hope you can get the ERC to really find a way to protect the consumers. with the big players of the industry, one can never know what is going on behind the scenes.</p>
<p>So maybe there should be some kind of an educational fund for consumers (and maybe even for the ERC!) so we can all learn the language that only those in the power industry understand.</p>
<p>Many thanks and I will keep following your posts.</p>
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		<title>By: Hyden Toro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hyden Toro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 02:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, the System Loss can vary from 5% to 8%. No more, no less.
That is the Theoretical  Range. We call it the Rule of Thumb
in formulating it. On &quot;as is&quot; basis, anybody can establish it with
the help of a Power Engineer. Considering all Philippine variables
and factors.

We urge the  Consumer Groups and Advocates to stop this Legal
Pickpocketing of Filipino consumers. A 15% factor is too much already. They can easily Police the electrical wire transmissions for
electricity/power thefts. Which is their reason for the very high
factor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, the System Loss can vary from 5% to 8%. No more, no less.<br />
That is the Theoretical  Range. We call it the Rule of Thumb<br />
in formulating it. On &#8220;as is&#8221; basis, anybody can establish it with<br />
the help of a Power Engineer. Considering all Philippine variables<br />
and factors.</p>
<p>We urge the  Consumer Groups and Advocates to stop this Legal<br />
Pickpocketing of Filipino consumers. A 15% factor is too much already. They can easily Police the electrical wire transmissions for<br />
electricity/power thefts. Which is their reason for the very high<br />
factor.</p>
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		<title>By: Hyden Toro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hyden Toro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 02:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think, they made the rules. He who have the Electric Power dictates the rules. Same as in Corporate negotiations. He who have the Gold. Makes the rules.

You can have a good formulation. With the help of
any Electrical/Power  Engineering School. System Loss charges can be formulated on Philippine variable conditions. British and U.S. have different variants. Formulate it on &quot;as is&quot; basis. Then, negotiate with the Sharks. We hope they will not bite as much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think, they made the rules. He who have the Electric Power dictates the rules. Same as in Corporate negotiations. He who have the Gold. Makes the rules.</p>
<p>You can have a good formulation. With the help of<br />
any Electrical/Power  Engineering School. System Loss charges can be formulated on Philippine variable conditions. British and U.S. have different variants. Formulate it on &#8220;as is&#8221; basis. Then, negotiate with the Sharks. We hope they will not bite as much.</p>
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		<title>By: J_AG</title>
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		<dc:creator>J_AG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 01:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dean just watch the present grilling of the Chairman of the Fed in the U.S. Congress. 

I do agree though that the state must have an oversight role in the case of fiat currencies since the taxpayer is the ultimate guarantor of all debts.  

However I prefer that the commercial aspects of banking be separated from the investment banking portion. Anyone willing to risk their savings with these guys or mutual funds (hedge funds) and private equity funds should have no safety net. 

Let bond holders and equity owners take the hit. Interest rates are already based on risk outlook plus there are credit default swaps so markets must be allowed to fail. 

Us small players envy the state guarantees that these guys get. That is the worse type of corruption.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dean just watch the present grilling of the Chairman of the Fed in the U.S. Congress. </p>
<p>I do agree though that the state must have an oversight role in the case of fiat currencies since the taxpayer is the ultimate guarantor of all debts.  </p>
<p>However I prefer that the commercial aspects of banking be separated from the investment banking portion. Anyone willing to risk their savings with these guys or mutual funds (hedge funds) and private equity funds should have no safety net. </p>
<p>Let bond holders and equity owners take the hit. Interest rates are already based on risk outlook plus there are credit default swaps so markets must be allowed to fail. </p>
<p>Us small players envy the state guarantees that these guys get. That is the worse type of corruption.</p>
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		<title>By: J_AG</title>
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		<dc:creator>J_AG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 01:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is no longer thinking out of the box. Just look at the EU and the present problems with Greece. 

Greece will have to give up sovereignty to survive as leaving the E.U. is not an option. 

The Philippines is already in a de facto common currency agreement with the U.S. 
The next step is forgetting about statehood.  We simply cannot afford it right now.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/c2508bf6-dfaa-11de-98ca-00144feab49a.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is no longer thinking out of the box. Just look at the EU and the present problems with Greece. </p>
<p>Greece will have to give up sovereignty to survive as leaving the E.U. is not an option. </p>
<p>The Philippines is already in a de facto common currency agreement with the U.S.<br />
The next step is forgetting about statehood.  We simply cannot afford it right now.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/c2508bf6-dfaa-11de-98ca-00144feab49a.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/c2508bf6-dfaa-11de-98ca-00144feab49a.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dean de la Paz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dean de la Paz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 00:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear J_ag,

You may not believe this, but that was an accurate observation where you said investment bankers were writing energy policies. I ended up an energy executive because the gencos hired people like me to negotiate their contracts for them. Enron crashed because of investmenmt bankers and so did my company, although in my case, the crash started in the NYSE and not in Manila.

Fortunate for the industry, investment bankers like me have returned to our caves and instead write blogs or simply play the exchanges.

Now its the politicians who&#039;ve taken over.

Dean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear J_ag,</p>
<p>You may not believe this, but that was an accurate observation where you said investment bankers were writing energy policies. I ended up an energy executive because the gencos hired people like me to negotiate their contracts for them. Enron crashed because of investmenmt bankers and so did my company, although in my case, the crash started in the NYSE and not in Manila.</p>
<p>Fortunate for the industry, investment bankers like me have returned to our caves and instead write blogs or simply play the exchanges.</p>
<p>Now its the politicians who&#8217;ve taken over.</p>
<p>Dean</p>
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