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		<title>By: Danilo U. Ignacio</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/the-small-difference-between-murder-and-attempted-murder/comment-page-2#comment-19153</link>
		<dc:creator>Danilo U. Ignacio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 04:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;In other words, the source of your grievance is in fact a tacit admission of a vast store of faith in America–that she does right most of the time and we are aghast when she does not.&quot;

Not necessarily, especially in our case. 

Instead, these world-wide expressions of grievances against American posturing from the past to these present days send a virtual reproving signal, if it is on her head always, that America must also learn to be corrigible and rectify its mistakes perpetrated by its imperialistic interests against others in the name of democracy if it wants to maintain her world status. Otherwise, America must expect her tragic next, that is, there shall be no other direction for her after reaching the apogee of power other than going down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In other words, the source of your grievance is in fact a tacit admission of a vast store of faith in America–that she does right most of the time and we are aghast when she does not.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not necessarily, especially in our case. </p>
<p>Instead, these world-wide expressions of grievances against American posturing from the past to these present days send a virtual reproving signal, if it is on her head always, that America must also learn to be corrigible and rectify its mistakes perpetrated by its imperialistic interests against others in the name of democracy if it wants to maintain her world status. Otherwise, America must expect her tragic next, that is, there shall be no other direction for her after reaching the apogee of power other than going down.</p>
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		<title>By: DJB</title>
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		<dc:creator>DJB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 01:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>danilo,
America is the indispensable grievance!

As a historian once said, &quot;There is no more grievous emotional loss than that of a explanation for one&#039;s own tragedies and failures, in terms of the the actions of a another.&quot;

This seems to be especially true.  Paradoxically, those who most strenuously berate the supposed meddling and resulting mess and blame it on America, almost always live in America.

In other words, the source of your grievance is in fact a tacit admission of a vast store of faith in America--that she does right most of the time and we are aghast when she does not. 

Yet her own history is not exactly pure.  There is a virtue greater than purity however: it is corrigibility.

Learn it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>danilo,<br />
America is the indispensable grievance!</p>
<p>As a historian once said, &#8220;There is no more grievous emotional loss than that of a explanation for one&#8217;s own tragedies and failures, in terms of the the actions of a another.&#8221;</p>
<p>This seems to be especially true.  Paradoxically, those who most strenuously berate the supposed meddling and resulting mess and blame it on America, almost always live in America.</p>
<p>In other words, the source of your grievance is in fact a tacit admission of a vast store of faith in America&#8211;that she does right most of the time and we are aghast when she does not. </p>
<p>Yet her own history is not exactly pure.  There is a virtue greater than purity however: it is corrigibility.</p>
<p>Learn it!</p>
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		<title>By: danilo u. ignacio</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/the-small-difference-between-murder-and-attempted-murder/comment-page-2#comment-19133</link>
		<dc:creator>danilo u. ignacio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 01:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DJB and Jester, I do not deny, nor shall I, that the Filipinos indeed fought for their independence. 

Hadn&#039;t Aguinaldo even sent those datus in Mindanao with a letter urging them to fight what he called the &quot;common enemies&quot; of the people in these Islands? 

But, a tragedy as it was, such declaration of freedom was maliciously arrested by America, grabbed the Philippines from Spain, manipulated the turn of events and instead America declared for the Filipinos their freedom which was supposed to be savored by them from Spain.

Such is America, &quot;the land of democratic ideals,&quot; a country that &quot;cares for, let alone meddle, over the freedom of others.&quot; In fact, it was Americans who put the Moros&#039; feet into Filipino shoes! You know what I mean and so this mess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DJB and Jester, I do not deny, nor shall I, that the Filipinos indeed fought for their independence. </p>
<p>Hadn&#8217;t Aguinaldo even sent those datus in Mindanao with a letter urging them to fight what he called the &#8220;common enemies&#8221; of the people in these Islands? </p>
<p>But, a tragedy as it was, such declaration of freedom was maliciously arrested by America, grabbed the Philippines from Spain, manipulated the turn of events and instead America declared for the Filipinos their freedom which was supposed to be savored by them from Spain.</p>
<p>Such is America, &#8220;the land of democratic ideals,&#8221; a country that &#8220;cares for, let alone meddle, over the freedom of others.&#8221; In fact, it was Americans who put the Moros&#8217; feet into Filipino shoes! You know what I mean and so this mess.</p>
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		<title>By: danilo u. ignacio</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/the-small-difference-between-murder-and-attempted-murder/comment-page-2#comment-19130</link>
		<dc:creator>danilo u. ignacio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Philippines, doing that embargo?huh! And don&#039;t you think other nations will help the Philippines doing that silly thing? Don&#039;t you feel that even America is distancing itself from the Philippine government because it sees nothing from today&#039;s administration? hehehe, what a jest jester! sorry you made me laugh.

The Bangsamoro, got nothin&#039; DJB? 

Isn&#039;t it that the Philippine government can not let go of Mindanao because of its natural resources still untouched, and that 60% of the Philippines&#039; income comes from Mindanao? Hence, this continuous war it perpetrates and perpetuates against the Moroland?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Philippines, doing that embargo?huh! And don&#8217;t you think other nations will help the Philippines doing that silly thing? Don&#8217;t you feel that even America is distancing itself from the Philippine government because it sees nothing from today&#8217;s administration? hehehe, what a jest jester! sorry you made me laugh.</p>
<p>The Bangsamoro, got nothin&#8217; DJB? </p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t it that the Philippine government can not let go of Mindanao because of its natural resources still untouched, and that 60% of the Philippines&#8217; income comes from Mindanao? Hence, this continuous war it perpetrates and perpetuates against the Moroland?</p>
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		<title>By: the jester-in-exile</title>
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		<dc:creator>the jester-in-exile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>here&#039;s a passing thought: why don&#039;t we just evac the civilians, destroy all infrastructure (built by Filipinos, by the way) prior to abandoning that territory, fence off ARMM, give it to the MILF, and shoot anyone who crosses the MILF-Philippines border, whether by land or by sea? no trade with them, no diplomatic relations, no giving them food and medical supplies? why don&#039;t we just leave a scorched-earth, raw, neolithic, start-from-scratch territory to the MILF?

they built nothing there except graves, let&#039;s leave them nothing but the graves they&#039;ve built.

(okay, that was facetious, but i don&#039;t doubt someone&#039;s going to be grovel and beg the GRP for an Act of Union.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here&#8217;s a passing thought: why don&#8217;t we just evac the civilians, destroy all infrastructure (built by Filipinos, by the way) prior to abandoning that territory, fence off ARMM, give it to the MILF, and shoot anyone who crosses the MILF-Philippines border, whether by land or by sea? no trade with them, no diplomatic relations, no giving them food and medical supplies? why don&#8217;t we just leave a scorched-earth, raw, neolithic, start-from-scratch territory to the MILF?</p>
<p>they built nothing there except graves, let&#8217;s leave them nothing but the graves they&#8217;ve built.</p>
<p>(okay, that was facetious, but i don&#8217;t doubt someone&#8217;s going to be grovel and beg the GRP for an Act of Union.)</p>
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		<title>By: DJB</title>
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		<dc:creator>DJB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Danilo,
History is messy like that. But Filipinos have a nation and independent country, which they won with blood and treasure. The Bangsamoro...well, they&#039;ve got nothing if they don&#039;t want to be part of the Philippines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danilo,<br />
History is messy like that. But Filipinos have a nation and independent country, which they won with blood and treasure. The Bangsamoro&#8230;well, they&#8217;ve got nothing if they don&#8217;t want to be part of the Philippines.</p>
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		<title>By: danilo u. ignacio</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/the-small-difference-between-murder-and-attempted-murder/comment-page-1#comment-18942</link>
		<dc:creator>danilo u. ignacio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 04:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Orchestrating to be that way, that is, to make it appear that it was America who really freed the Philippines, its &quot;freedom day&quot; was shifted to July 4, 1946; same as that of America&#039;s.

And &quot;On July 4, 1946, Roxas became the FIRST PRESIDENT OF THE INDEPENDENT REPUBLIC OF THE PHILIPPINES,&quot; (emphases mine) - Ronald E. Dolan, ed. Philippines: A Country Study. Washington: GPO for the Library of Congress, 1991.

So it was 1946 DJB, not 1898 as you said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Orchestrating to be that way, that is, to make it appear that it was America who really freed the Philippines, its &#8220;freedom day&#8221; was shifted to July 4, 1946; same as that of America&#8217;s.</p>
<p>And &#8220;On July 4, 1946, Roxas became the FIRST PRESIDENT OF THE INDEPENDENT REPUBLIC OF THE PHILIPPINES,&#8221; (emphases mine) &#8211; Ronald E. Dolan, ed. Philippines: A Country Study. Washington: GPO for the Library of Congress, 1991.</p>
<p>So it was 1946 DJB, not 1898 as you said.</p>
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		<title>By: danilo u. ignacio</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/the-small-difference-between-murder-and-attempted-murder/comment-page-1#comment-18939</link>
		<dc:creator>danilo u. ignacio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 03:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, but not without the tutelage of America. It was through the insinuation of America that Aguinaldo should go back to the Philippines from his exile in Hongkong and Singapore in 1897 and “established” his revolutionary government against Spain. As such, it can be said that prior to Aguinaldo’s Proclamation in Malolos, there had been prior contacts between him and American authorities. Note that this was in the context of war between Spain and America. 

Aguinaldo was deluded that his engagement with the Americans was an entente. He was not aware of the sinister plan of US to seize Spain’s colonies including the Philippines and replace its colonial rule. 

As such, Aguinaldo, “inspired’ let alone deluded, by US sugar-coated insinuations, proclaimed independence and established his government modeled on American one, thinking or hoping that US shall support it. But lately did he realize that he and his troops were just exploited by the Americans to beat Spain and grab the Philippines easily. Not until Spain sold the Philippines to the Americans in the Treaty of Paris that his government was just a sham, an offshoot instead of American malicious suggestion to hasten its control over the Philippines. (The oldest republic indeed!)

That is to realize the contrived scenario, a conspiracy indeed, that it was America who really freed the Philippines from the clutches of Spanish colonization and not the Filipinos themselves. Of course, not without preconditions! 

Haven’t you thought of that yet, or you’re just in a denial?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, but not without the tutelage of America. It was through the insinuation of America that Aguinaldo should go back to the Philippines from his exile in Hongkong and Singapore in 1897 and “established” his revolutionary government against Spain. As such, it can be said that prior to Aguinaldo’s Proclamation in Malolos, there had been prior contacts between him and American authorities. Note that this was in the context of war between Spain and America. </p>
<p>Aguinaldo was deluded that his engagement with the Americans was an entente. He was not aware of the sinister plan of US to seize Spain’s colonies including the Philippines and replace its colonial rule. </p>
<p>As such, Aguinaldo, “inspired’ let alone deluded, by US sugar-coated insinuations, proclaimed independence and established his government modeled on American one, thinking or hoping that US shall support it. But lately did he realize that he and his troops were just exploited by the Americans to beat Spain and grab the Philippines easily. Not until Spain sold the Philippines to the Americans in the Treaty of Paris that his government was just a sham, an offshoot instead of American malicious suggestion to hasten its control over the Philippines. (The oldest republic indeed!)</p>
<p>That is to realize the contrived scenario, a conspiracy indeed, that it was America who really freed the Philippines from the clutches of Spanish colonization and not the Filipinos themselves. Of course, not without preconditions! </p>
<p>Haven’t you thought of that yet, or you’re just in a denial?</p>
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		<title>By: The Jester-in-Exile</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Jester-in-Exile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 12:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i doff the foolscap over that, dean. well put.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i doff the foolscap over that, dean. well put.</p>
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		<title>By: DJB</title>
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		<dc:creator>DJB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 12:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Danilo,
The First Philippine Republic proclaimed its independence from Spain on June 12, 1898. The Malolos Constitution was our first democratic Constitution.  Australia did not become independent until Jan 1 1900 and New Zealand 1906.  We are the oldest democratic republic in Asia, ahead of China, India, and the raft of Asian states that became independent after WW2.  The Commonwealth Republic was the Second Philippine Republic, that one, under America after a period of conquest. 

The Philippine American War was won by the US. It spelt the end of the First Republic, which lasted less than two years.  But there it is: indelible history. 

Now you were saying...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danilo,<br />
The First Philippine Republic proclaimed its independence from Spain on June 12, 1898. The Malolos Constitution was our first democratic Constitution.  Australia did not become independent until Jan 1 1900 and New Zealand 1906.  We are the oldest democratic republic in Asia, ahead of China, India, and the raft of Asian states that became independent after WW2.  The Commonwealth Republic was the Second Philippine Republic, that one, under America after a period of conquest. </p>
<p>The Philippine American War was won by the US. It spelt the end of the First Republic, which lasted less than two years.  But there it is: indelible history. </p>
<p>Now you were saying&#8230;</p>
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