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		<title>By: Estrella</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/the-sulpicio-lines-saga-continues/comment-page-1#comment-179703</link>
		<dc:creator>Estrella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 May 2010 22:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ eniale eram i agree with you.. been looking for blogs on how to file civil case against Sulpicio how to contact these group that filed?

I Lost my parents (mom and dad) uncle, aunt and cousin. we were in deep shock that they have to take us (the rest of my siblings) away from cebu to recover.

I lost track of what happen, now i wanted to take actions and do what is suppose to be done, it has been two years and dont know who and where to ask. Help!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ eniale eram i agree with you.. been looking for blogs on how to file civil case against Sulpicio how to contact these group that filed?</p>
<p>I Lost my parents (mom and dad) uncle, aunt and cousin. we were in deep shock that they have to take us (the rest of my siblings) away from cebu to recover.</p>
<p>I lost track of what happen, now i wanted to take actions and do what is suppose to be done, it has been two years and dont know who and where to ask. Help!</p>
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		<title>By: eniale eiram</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/the-sulpicio-lines-saga-continues/comment-page-1#comment-4499</link>
		<dc:creator>eniale eiram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 06:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it is in the law that a company will be excuse from any liability from any tragedy when a foruitous event occur. fortuitous event means flood, tyhoon, earthquake, fire or any acts of God, and of course how can we missed terorism. in this case Sulpicio Lines can be excused from any liability, but the question is &quot;Why sail if there is already an announcement of a typhoon signal?&quot;.... simple right? simple but never realized..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it is in the law that a company will be excuse from any liability from any tragedy when a foruitous event occur. fortuitous event means flood, tyhoon, earthquake, fire or any acts of God, and of course how can we missed terorism. in this case Sulpicio Lines can be excused from any liability, but the question is &#8220;Why sail if there is already an announcement of a typhoon signal?&#8221;&#8230;. simple right? simple but never realized..</p>
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		<title>By: QUIT CLAIM? Why Sulpicio Lines Just Plain Sucks &#124; Tingog.com &#124; The Voice of The Filipino</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/the-sulpicio-lines-saga-continues/comment-page-1#comment-4320</link>
		<dc:creator>QUIT CLAIM? Why Sulpicio Lines Just Plain Sucks &#124; Tingog.com &#124; The Voice of The Filipino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (please read a more detailed article which I wrote about a week ago, with regards to Sulpicio Lines) tags: (none)  Add to del.icio.us &#124; Digg this! &#124; Yahoo MyWeb &#124; Google Bookmark It! &#124; Stumble It!   Related Entries:  BLOGSWARM: STOP SULPICIO LINESStop Sulpicio Lines BlogswarmEveryone Should Quit, And The Rest Imprisoned!Sulpicio Lines Is Still At ItThe Death Of JusticeBuried On A Sunday22 Ships?Sulpicio Lines, The Coast Guard, The Never-ending Screw UpsLet Us Not Be Bamboozled By Sulpicio LinesStill Missing [...]</description>
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		<title>By: cvj</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/the-sulpicio-lines-saga-continues/comment-page-1#comment-3998</link>
		<dc:creator>cvj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DJB, how on earth could you mix me up with Bencard and Benign0? ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DJB, how on earth could you mix me up with Bencard and Benign0? ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: DJB Rizalist</title>
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		<dc:creator>DJB Rizalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick,

A thoughtful and balanced piece. Let me just point out a number of things though...

First of all, it is not true that Sulpicio Lines was the only one to have a ship sink in the storm.  Sen. Richard Gordon reported that many, many dozens of big and small commercial and private vessels were sunk by Typhoon Feng-shen. Many of these sunken ships were already AT safe harbor! Notice that all by itself, this typhoon caused almost as much damage as all of our usual twenty or so annual storms. Indeed, any evaluation of Sulpicio&#039;s safety record has to be adjudged side by side with other shipping companies and the general maritime safety record and normalized to the volume of traffic they deploy.   I have a suspicion that they might not be the worst and could even rank highly in such a dispassionate and objective tally. I don&#039;t believe that even Nenaco has a perfect record.

Second, I think we must face the fact that &quot;Acts of God&quot; cannot be deterred or prevented because this is just a fancy name for the term &quot;accident&quot; which will ALWAYS happen, especially since we are annually in the path of those twenty or more typhoons. Granted human caution and prudence can mitigate the effects, but not entirely. 

I think it was Benigno or Bencard or  CVJ who made the sensible observation that if we had a half-way decent insurance industry, then market forces and regulatory measures could effectively weight, punish and reward all maritime companies based on their records of service, safety and efficiency.  

I think that given the unalterably perilous nature of sailing on the high seas, this is the proven method of living with and dealing with the situation. 

I wouldn&#039;t be too insistent on accountability in the form of &quot;running them out of business&quot; because if we look under every rock around here, we are sure to find worms.  Even the passengers could be blamed, I suppose for imprudently deciding to travel in such inclement weather, probably not the first time they, or Sulipicio did it either, with no accidents, except this time. 

There should be accountability, but it ought to be rational and ought not to give in to the kind of radical precautionary principle that would kill maritime commerce altogether, or impose the kind of insane panic that ensued from the endosulphan scare abetted by environmental activists and other ideological fear-mongers.

We&#039;d all have to stay home except for when we are called out to demonstrate at the US Embassy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick,</p>
<p>A thoughtful and balanced piece. Let me just point out a number of things though&#8230;</p>
<p>First of all, it is not true that Sulpicio Lines was the only one to have a ship sink in the storm.  Sen. Richard Gordon reported that many, many dozens of big and small commercial and private vessels were sunk by Typhoon Feng-shen. Many of these sunken ships were already AT safe harbor! Notice that all by itself, this typhoon caused almost as much damage as all of our usual twenty or so annual storms. Indeed, any evaluation of Sulpicio&#8217;s safety record has to be adjudged side by side with other shipping companies and the general maritime safety record and normalized to the volume of traffic they deploy.   I have a suspicion that they might not be the worst and could even rank highly in such a dispassionate and objective tally. I don&#8217;t believe that even Nenaco has a perfect record.</p>
<p>Second, I think we must face the fact that &#8220;Acts of God&#8221; cannot be deterred or prevented because this is just a fancy name for the term &#8220;accident&#8221; which will ALWAYS happen, especially since we are annually in the path of those twenty or more typhoons. Granted human caution and prudence can mitigate the effects, but not entirely. </p>
<p>I think it was Benigno or Bencard or  CVJ who made the sensible observation that if we had a half-way decent insurance industry, then market forces and regulatory measures could effectively weight, punish and reward all maritime companies based on their records of service, safety and efficiency.  </p>
<p>I think that given the unalterably perilous nature of sailing on the high seas, this is the proven method of living with and dealing with the situation. </p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t be too insistent on accountability in the form of &#8220;running them out of business&#8221; because if we look under every rock around here, we are sure to find worms.  Even the passengers could be blamed, I suppose for imprudently deciding to travel in such inclement weather, probably not the first time they, or Sulipicio did it either, with no accidents, except this time. </p>
<p>There should be accountability, but it ought to be rational and ought not to give in to the kind of radical precautionary principle that would kill maritime commerce altogether, or impose the kind of insane panic that ensued from the endosulphan scare abetted by environmental activists and other ideological fear-mongers.</p>
<p>We&#8217;d all have to stay home except for when we are called out to demonstrate at the US Embassy.</p>
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		<title>By: Sulpicio Lines, Don&#8217;t Forget Accountability &#124; Filipino Voices</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sulpicio Lines, Don&#8217;t Forget Accountability &#124; Filipino Voices</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] folks, I ask you to read The Sulpicio Lines saga which I wrote just days ago (yes, I know it was quite long).  In the article I mention many [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Sulpicio Lines Is Still At It &#124; Tingog.com &#124; The Voice of The Filipino</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/the-sulpicio-lines-saga-continues/comment-page-1#comment-3454</link>
		<dc:creator>Sulpicio Lines Is Still At It &#124; Tingog.com &#124; The Voice of The Filipino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 15:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] wrote a lengthy post over at FilipinoVoices regarding my stand on the continuing Sulpicio Lines Saga, and how we need not wait to realize that the benefit of the doubt should not be given to Sulpicio [...]</description>
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