Nothing I’d like to see better, but it HAS to be genuinely Iranian, otherwise the opposition can easily leverage the “outside interference or occupation” argument, as was done in Iraq to recruit new terrorists.

The history of US and Iranian ties must be fascinating. I know there are MANY Iranians living in the US, and, of course, we have that “Shah” period.

Anyone know of a good book detailing this history? Gadzooks, or do I turn into a BongV and just google or Amazon it? ahahahahah

Joe

But in a way, they can blame part of Iran’s current situation on America’s influence, but then the line of cause and effect would be far removed. I’m referring to the above, the CIA overthrow of Mossadegh back in the 50s.

I’m focused. I agree. It would be good to see moderate minds in the Islamic world taking control, without any meddling or pushing from the US.

Joe

I think the Ayatollah is nuts, myself, so far away from the norm that his standard deviation is … well, so small I can’t read it.

You have me pegged way wrong, I fear.

Here are President Obama’s remarks, before he was forced to toughen up his stance by resolutions of the House and Senate condemning Iran:

The president already was on record as saying the United States stood behind those who were seeking justice in a peaceful way. He responded to critics that he hadn’t been forceful enough in support of protesters, telling CBS News: “The last thing that I want to do is to have the United States be a foil for those forces inside Iran who would love nothing better than to make this an argument about the United States. That’s what they do.”

Joe

If we could only know how deep America’s involvement in this recent “crisis” in Iran with the cooperation of its allied nations (and of course Israel), we might [not] be surprised why such a strong “theocratic democracy” as Iran is shaken by such a simple exercise of its people’s rights.

Israel & America and their allies have long been waiting for this moment. They should win this proxy struggle against the current theocratic regime of Iran, otherwise they will have no other choice in the near future but to resort to military means in order to frustrate the nuclear arms pursuit of Iran’s present leadership.

Amadinejad in collusion with Ayatullah presents a threat to peace in the Middle East. He wants to erase from the face of the earth Israel and Israel was rearing to hit back.

But let us limit the issue here. An election was held and the opponents claimed it was rigged. Protesters swarmed the streets and were met with teargas, baton and sticks. Protests continue and Ayatullah, went on air blaming the U.S . for these protest. Can you beat that?

The US was thrust upon the world stage during WWII, being reluctant to enter the fighting against Germany. However, once committed, the country became a powerful war-machine, converting domestic factories to the manufacture of fighting materials and enlisting her sons and daughters to go to Europe to defend allies. When the war was over, Europe and Asia were shreds, and the US was the only country with the power to counterbalance Russian imperialism. It was impossible to step back from the world stage.

The US IS an imperialist state, however. Not of territory. But of ideas; of freedoms and concepts of human rights. It agitates for those ideas and thereby gets its nose into the business of other countries. Usually, it’s intent and method are good; sometimes things are not so well done.

US private enterprise is also imperialistic, in a dog-eat-dog competitive sense. The commercial interests influence government policy.

But overall, the world is a much better place because the US accepts responsibility for using its might to pursue high ideals. An occasional brickbat comes with the territory.

As for Iran, I’ve read news articles about how the US is frustrated because it can’t operate clandestinely in Iran (for lack of foreign language spies it can trust). I can imagine that the US would, if it could, try to take Iran’s “Little Hitler” out of the picture. There is a point at which the US cannot keep Israeli warplanes at bay, and the US knows that it would have a hard time constraining Arab hostilities against Israel. And who is stuck in the middle? The US.

Sorry for the ramble. Your comment got me thinking. Always a dangerous proposition.

Have a pleasant day.

Joe

We have different beliefs. Some are Christians, Muslims, Atheist,
Agnostics, maybe Nudists, UFO believers, Anting-Anting believers,etc.. Some even dont know what to believe.