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		<title>By: cocoy</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/watchmen-censored/comment-page-1#comment-38504</link>
		<dc:creator>cocoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 01:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@gabby, ok i miss typed, i&#039;m sorry about that confusion. 

Anyway that doesn&#039;t take the fact that controversy surrounding da vinci code was much to do about nothing. ;) same in this case. hence, why do we need an mtrcb? why go through all that trouble to &quot;censor,&quot; when in fact the best censorship is people&#039;s taste? 

Brian B hated watchmen, and i&#039;m sure he&#039;ll be telling his friends why and his friends will be discouraged, somewhat or will go in and watch it for themselves to see just how good or bad it is.

As for kids going to an R18 movie, that&#039;s first and foremost the parent&#039;s job. Heck, I&#039;m going to say that that&#039;s morality&#039;s job and none of government&#039;s business. Second, when has anyone in the history of the world been able to prevent a teen from doing anything that they&#039;re not suppose to? And three when people say, something is controversial or bad, the more likely they&#039;ll go and watch it or read it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@gabby, ok i miss typed, i&#8217;m sorry about that confusion. </p>
<p>Anyway that doesn&#8217;t take the fact that controversy surrounding da vinci code was much to do about nothing. ;) same in this case. hence, why do we need an mtrcb? why go through all that trouble to &#8220;censor,&#8221; when in fact the best censorship is people&#8217;s taste? </p>
<p>Brian B hated watchmen, and i&#8217;m sure he&#8217;ll be telling his friends why and his friends will be discouraged, somewhat or will go in and watch it for themselves to see just how good or bad it is.</p>
<p>As for kids going to an R18 movie, that&#8217;s first and foremost the parent&#8217;s job. Heck, I&#8217;m going to say that that&#8217;s morality&#8217;s job and none of government&#8217;s business. Second, when has anyone in the history of the world been able to prevent a teen from doing anything that they&#8217;re not suppose to? And three when people say, something is controversial or bad, the more likely they&#8217;ll go and watch it or read it.</p>
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		<title>By: GabbyD</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 01:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;the da vinci code had all the hoopla that it couldn’t be shown because it rubbed conservative sensibilities too much.&quot;

just point of fact, Da Vinci was shown in RP... according to this wiki article:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Da_Vinci_Code_(film)#Philippines

is it wrong?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the da vinci code had all the hoopla that it couldn’t be shown because it rubbed conservative sensibilities too much.&#8221;</p>
<p>just point of fact, Da Vinci was shown in RP&#8230; according to this wiki article:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Da_Vinci_Code_(film)#Philippines" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Da_Vinci_Code_(film)#Philippines</a></p>
<p>is it wrong?</p>
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		<title>By: missingpoints</title>
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		<dc:creator>missingpoints</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 14:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What they edited out was the sex scene. Which was a pity since it was set to Leonard Cohen&#039;s &quot;Hallelujah.&quot; A no-brainer given Night Owl&#039;s erectile dysfunction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What they edited out was the sex scene. Which was a pity since it was set to Leonard Cohen&#8217;s &#8220;Hallelujah.&#8221; A no-brainer given Night Owl&#8217;s erectile dysfunction.</p>
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		<title>By: cocoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>cocoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 07:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian B,

LOL. The deconstruction of the superhero was revolutionary in its day. Just as how it reflected the 1980s.  Well in spite of it being a Hugo Award winning book, I guess it isn&#039;t for everybody. 

That&#039;s how it goes. I respect your point of view for it. 

@gabby 

the da vinci code had all the hoopla that it couldn&#039;t be shown because it rubbed conservative sensibilities too much. i&#039;m a practicing catholic and i&#039;ve read the book and seen the film and i don&#039;t mind it at all.

the dark knight was such a violent film. seriously the first few minutes of the film you had Joker killing his own crew. talk about crime! talk about super violence. the big difference between that movie and this one, no sex scene. seriously, are we that shallow? 

&lt;blockquote&gt;its only to rate movies for their explicit scenes, and to restrict viewership as such. parents can rest assured that their kids aren’t watching stuff they don’t want them to watch in the cinema, or at least its harder to get to.
don’t we want to help these people? can’t the govt help in this regard?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

my short answer is: No.

my longer answer: 

that&#039;s not a job of the government. imho the government should be focused on other things like making sure for instance Legacy doesn&#039;t happen again or our banking system is up to spec to face tomorrow&#039;s challenges, just to name two of the least of our people&#039;s worries. 

Also making sure EDSA isn&#039;t a moon-crater filled artery of transportation should also take higher priority. Heck prioritizing the environment such as ensuring clean, cheap power should be of higher priority. When all of those worries are solved or at least on its way to be better managed, /then/ let government come forward and suggest what people should watch and what it shouldn&#039;t. maybe i&#039;ll even listen (fat chance).

that&#039;s just my humble opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian B,</p>
<p>LOL. The deconstruction of the superhero was revolutionary in its day. Just as how it reflected the 1980s.  Well in spite of it being a Hugo Award winning book, I guess it isn&#8217;t for everybody. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s how it goes. I respect your point of view for it. </p>
<p>@gabby </p>
<p>the da vinci code had all the hoopla that it couldn&#8217;t be shown because it rubbed conservative sensibilities too much. i&#8217;m a practicing catholic and i&#8217;ve read the book and seen the film and i don&#8217;t mind it at all.</p>
<p>the dark knight was such a violent film. seriously the first few minutes of the film you had Joker killing his own crew. talk about crime! talk about super violence. the big difference between that movie and this one, no sex scene. seriously, are we that shallow? </p>
<blockquote><p>its only to rate movies for their explicit scenes, and to restrict viewership as such. parents can rest assured that their kids aren’t watching stuff they don’t want them to watch in the cinema, or at least its harder to get to.<br />
don’t we want to help these people? can’t the govt help in this regard?</p></blockquote>
<p>my short answer is: No.</p>
<p>my longer answer: </p>
<p>that&#8217;s not a job of the government. imho the government should be focused on other things like making sure for instance Legacy doesn&#8217;t happen again or our banking system is up to spec to face tomorrow&#8217;s challenges, just to name two of the least of our people&#8217;s worries. </p>
<p>Also making sure EDSA isn&#8217;t a moon-crater filled artery of transportation should also take higher priority. Heck prioritizing the environment such as ensuring clean, cheap power should be of higher priority. When all of those worries are solved or at least on its way to be better managed, /then/ let government come forward and suggest what people should watch and what it shouldn&#8217;t. maybe i&#8217;ll even listen (fat chance).</p>
<p>that&#8217;s just my humble opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: GabbyD</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 06:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Da vinci code, titatnic, dark knight... all were shown. i don&#039;t get the point...

the point of ratings is not to say whether a movie has artistic merit. 

its only to rate movies for their explicit scenes, and to restrict viewership as such. parents can rest assured that their kids aren&#039;t watching stuff they don&#039;t want them to watch in the cinema, or at least its harder to get to.

don&#039;t we want to help these people? can&#039;t the govt help in this regard?

its true for some people/kids will watch it anyways via piracy. but rating can still help, can it not?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Da vinci code, titatnic, dark knight&#8230; all were shown. i don&#8217;t get the point&#8230;</p>
<p>the point of ratings is not to say whether a movie has artistic merit. </p>
<p>its only to rate movies for their explicit scenes, and to restrict viewership as such. parents can rest assured that their kids aren&#8217;t watching stuff they don&#8217;t want them to watch in the cinema, or at least its harder to get to.</p>
<p>don&#8217;t we want to help these people? can&#8217;t the govt help in this regard?</p>
<p>its true for some people/kids will watch it anyways via piracy. but rating can still help, can it not?</p>
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		<title>By: BrianB</title>
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		<dc:creator>BrianB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 06:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cocoy, Watchmen is too violent and much of the violence is supposed to be the movie&#039;s own aesthetic, while to me it just seems gratuitous. Totally anemic film and a worthless exercise for all actors. You put all characters together and they won&#039;t even make up a decent movie character. I&#039;m sure the graphic novel is just as worthless, too. Overrating a work of art should be a crime. I&#039;ve wasted my time, it could&#039;ve been a nice Friday evening, I wasted money I could&#039;ve spent on a really nice dinner. All those Watchmen fanatics could suck Mr. Manhattan&#039;s blue ding-dong. My advice: read a good book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cocoy, Watchmen is too violent and much of the violence is supposed to be the movie&#8217;s own aesthetic, while to me it just seems gratuitous. Totally anemic film and a worthless exercise for all actors. You put all characters together and they won&#8217;t even make up a decent movie character. I&#8217;m sure the graphic novel is just as worthless, too. Overrating a work of art should be a crime. I&#8217;ve wasted my time, it could&#8217;ve been a nice Friday evening, I wasted money I could&#8217;ve spent on a really nice dinner. All those Watchmen fanatics could suck Mr. Manhattan&#8217;s blue ding-dong. My advice: read a good book.</p>
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		<title>By: cocoy</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/watchmen-censored/comment-page-1#comment-38285</link>
		<dc:creator>cocoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 06:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@gabby when has an r18 rating stopped a teenager from watching porn? if they can&#039;t find it shown in a movie house, they&#039;ll find it somewhere else. 

how many times has the mtrcb rated a film or prevented a film or tried to prevent a film to be shown, only to utterly fail because it was much to do about nothing? 

Da Vinci Code was a recent example, correct? Dan Brown&#039;s book was fiction and yet somehow it ruffled so many feathers. Some people thought it wasn&#039;t fiction. It of course didn&#039;t gross the way Titanic did, correct? Titanic had a sex scene too, right? 

Superman Returns sucked that it barely made money. The Dark Knight, Titanic, Star Wars, etc. etc. were movies people watch and still watch long after they&#039;ve been shown in the big screen. if a movie is good, people will watch it. if a movie sucks, people won&#039;t. 

I think Rotten Tomatoes carry more weight. Critics would say what is good and what isn&#039;t. word of mouth is the say. I think censorship is wrong. I think a movie rating system is wrong. Suggesting that it isn&#039;t suitable for minors should be the norm and weather or not people listen to that suggestion, that&#039;s for them to do or not, imho.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@gabby when has an r18 rating stopped a teenager from watching porn? if they can&#8217;t find it shown in a movie house, they&#8217;ll find it somewhere else. </p>
<p>how many times has the mtrcb rated a film or prevented a film or tried to prevent a film to be shown, only to utterly fail because it was much to do about nothing? </p>
<p>Da Vinci Code was a recent example, correct? Dan Brown&#8217;s book was fiction and yet somehow it ruffled so many feathers. Some people thought it wasn&#8217;t fiction. It of course didn&#8217;t gross the way Titanic did, correct? Titanic had a sex scene too, right? </p>
<p>Superman Returns sucked that it barely made money. The Dark Knight, Titanic, Star Wars, etc. etc. were movies people watch and still watch long after they&#8217;ve been shown in the big screen. if a movie is good, people will watch it. if a movie sucks, people won&#8217;t. </p>
<p>I think Rotten Tomatoes carry more weight. Critics would say what is good and what isn&#8217;t. word of mouth is the say. I think censorship is wrong. I think a movie rating system is wrong. Suggesting that it isn&#8217;t suitable for minors should be the norm and weather or not people listen to that suggestion, that&#8217;s for them to do or not, imho.</p>
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		<title>By: GabbyD</title>
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		<dc:creator>GabbyD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 05:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no mtrcb? really? even for explicit scenes? the ratings guide parents and the general public about what to expect. if its R18, then kids shouldnt be watching it, no?

i am in favor of allowing the showing on X rated movies in select cinemas... which i understand is impossible under the current system...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no mtrcb? really? even for explicit scenes? the ratings guide parents and the general public about what to expect. if its R18, then kids shouldnt be watching it, no?</p>
<p>i am in favor of allowing the showing on X rated movies in select cinemas&#8230; which i understand is impossible under the current system&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: cocoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>cocoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 05:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@gabby the distributor wouldn&#039;t have to worry about it not being shown at all if the law permitted it, correct? my point really is that in a democratic and free society, we don&#039;t need an mtrcb. let people decide if the thing is shit or not. As brian b pointed out, much to do about nothing. no need for an x-rating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@gabby the distributor wouldn&#8217;t have to worry about it not being shown at all if the law permitted it, correct? my point really is that in a democratic and free society, we don&#8217;t need an mtrcb. let people decide if the thing is shit or not. As brian b pointed out, much to do about nothing. no need for an x-rating.</p>
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		<title>By: BrianB</title>
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		<dc:creator>BrianB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A flaccid nuclear penis isn&#039;t exactly worth the X rating. Besides, the film was so-so. The only thing I really liked was the score. Ninety-nine loft balloons...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A flaccid nuclear penis isn&#8217;t exactly worth the X rating. Besides, the film was so-so. The only thing I really liked was the score. Ninety-nine loft balloons&#8230;</p>
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