Let me parrot my friend and sometimes adversary here at Filipino Voices–Bencard and another colleague based in Australia with the name BenigNO–what’s this overt and highly sensationalized fascination with a feud at a golf course? What with this national fascination over a department secretary and his son who allegedly mauled a private citizen? Conyo is right–there are far more pressing concerns than write something about a private spat which no one actually knows whose side was really right and whose side is really on the wrong? I dare my colleagues–who among you was actually there in the first place? What we wrote came from a spurned source–the alleged beneficiary of this purported “arrogance” displayed by the Pangandamans.
What if this victim is not really the victim and in fact, the instigator of this bugbugan off the golf course? Why is everyone believing the narrations of this alleged victim online when in truth, nobody actually really know what really happened right?
Look at this site—it devoted five different entries talking about the same thing. Whatthe? So what if a mayor’s bodyguards mauled a private citizen? There must be some reason like self-defense, to begin with. The incident report showed that Dela Paz actually poked his umbrella at the mayor. If I’m the security personnel of Mayor Pangandaman, would I not do the same thing? Of course I would. That’s what I’m being paid for in the first place, protect my client from any harm. Definitely, during the melee, someone would get injuried. But, it does’nt mean that it would cause somebody’s job on the line, right? What’s the connection between Pangandaman’s job as DAR secretary and that of Dela Paz? Nothing. Dela Paz is also a known braggart on the course. He always tell people how great his family and his son is. A braggart receiving the brutal end of the stick will always shout to the world that he’s wronged when he probably started the melee himself.
Do we know that there was a second incident where Dela Paz came with his accomplices, bearing batutas, knives and baseball bats? Dela Paz tried to make that Pinoy penchant for “resbak”. So, was he still a victim or an instigator? Dela Paz is not a good witness. He did’nt tell the entire country of this second episode where he came back with thugs to allegedly beat up the younger Pangandaman.
So, why are we still curious what happened? I think the Pinoy being an usisero is really behind all of this fascination with tabloid stories like these. We like to guess who’s the culprit. This is actually “away bata”, yet, we in the blogosphere is writing about it, making it bigger than what it really is. There are more pressing issues, like charter change, the other Dela Paz involved in the Euro scandal, and even this alleged bribery done by parents of the three Alabang boys caught red handed with cocaine. Time to recover from our holiday blues and talk of something more relevant, like ousting Gloria in 2009.
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LEGAL BEDROCK
THE RULE of law can be defined as a system in which the laws are public knowledge, are clear in meaning, and apply equally to everyone. They enshrine and uphold the political and civil liberties that have gained status as universal human rights over the last half-century. . . . Perhaps most important, the government is embedded in a comprehensive legal framework, its officials accept that the law will be applied to their own conduct, and the government seeks to be law-abiding.
Facts: In the Philippines, what’s happening is exactly the opposite. this blog cannot support the facts
Do not believe sa pulis na pogi. His side of story is a MYTH and it does not also support the facts
Rule-of-law reform will succeed only if it gets at the fundamental problem of leaders who refuse to be ruled by the law. Respect for the law will not easily take root in systems rife with corruption and cynicism, since entrenched elites cede their traditional impunity and vested interests only under great pressure.
The Pangandamans cannot serve right for this country. they can only serve terror and intimidation for the people.
From PinoyGolfer.com Forum
Posted December 29, 2008
PinoyGolfer Member: dutch 15
joined: 22 April 2007
quoting a co-forumer on PinoyGolfer.com:
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I am reposting this from the Valley Golf thread:
Joagster wrote:
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 1:39 am Post subject: the valley incident
hi guys, i’m a proud member of valley and i was there when that incident happened. For those of you wondering, Valley is doing their own investigation and has been interrogating witnesses on what really happened. The main reason why Valley hasn’t come out with a statement yet is because they want to finish the whole investigation process first. They don’t want to give out a false statement about the situation which in my opinion is the right thing to do.
Also, I just like to ask everybody to not believe everything you read in the newspaper. Atleast, let’s be fair. Just want to remind everybody that the article in the newspaper was Mr. De La Paz’s statement. And since I was there when it happened, and after reading the article this morning, the story lacked a lot of key details that I’m sure Mr. De La Paz will never tell the media. I agree to some that what happened was awful for our club and for golf. But i also believe that we should be fair…there’s always 2 sides of the coin.
I will not reveal the other version of the story (if you want to call it that but just want everybody to know that I don’t even know mayor pangandaman personally), the other version came from club employees who witnessed the incident from hole #6 up to the clubhouse. I’d rather wait for Valley to give out their statement and I really hope that they do to clear any misconceptions.
It’s sad that this had to happen…really wish that it didn’t…
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Care to counter a post from a golfer who’s also a member of VGCC regarding the incident? That person saw what happened. You did not.
wahahahaha……the dela paz never said that they were poor but they mentioned “it’s hard to compete with “INFLUENTIAL” people…….really????!!!! xtians are at it again???? what about our bombings here in iligan,,,do you even have any idea how many maranaos were captured here for leaving bombs everywhere in the city…..”THEY WERE F@CKING CAUGHT IN THE ACT…..” i was born and bred here in iligan and the worst people here are maranaos…….”THEY ALWAYS WANT TO BE NOTICED….THEY WANT EASY MONEY….THEY INTIMIDATE THE PEOPLE HERE SO THAT THEY COULD HAVE THE POWER TO EVERYTHING THEY WANT HERE….THEY ARE BACKSTABBERS…..AND THEY ARE UNEDUCATED!!!!!” WE CALL THEM “Muklo” which means UNEDUCATED” i am a witness of their cruelty…….
students who are studying in msu-marawi are raped…..”they rape our women here….” they beat up students just for fun……they kill here and just dump the bodies on an empty lot……they are very abusive here in iligan…they don’t have manners…….they are stupid and f@cking selfish….mga salbahe dito ang mga muslim….di na ako magtataka if they twist the story, “coz they always wash their hands…” babayaran lang nila yung tao para di magsalita…and if you would refuse to take the money and lie they would f@cking threat your life……it always end up with killings…..hahay……mga maranao talaga…..”unducated”
What characterizes Philippines? It is a country with laws, but our country do not enforce them since the country acts in keeping with the wishes of the powerful. The powerful can be the neighborhood bully or the public officials. But in both cases, the situation is the violent party wins.
The pangandamans are violent.
missiligan,
and you call yourself educated??
sticck to the issue and stop dragging muslim christian feud…have a little of common sense will you.
What characterizes Philippines? It is a country with laws, but our country do not enforce them since the country acts in keeping with the wishes of the powerful. The powerful can be the neighborhood bully or the public officials. But in both cases, the situation is the violent party wins.
The pangandamans are violent.
JD, lurker lang and pulis na pogi are showing signs of cruelty.
hindi ko kaya etong palampasin. tsk tsk.
hey missiligan08. dont generalize all maranaos. me myself live and grew up in Iligan.
the bombing in Iligan .. there also maranaos who was also victims. why blame it on us? you dont have proofs its really the maranaos who did the bombing. there was also floating report it was done by military for incoming Martial Law? walang baliw na terrorist na babalic sa scene and plant bomb to cause chaos again. and the terrorist is plain stupid if he dress up like Tabligh or the white dress of muslim. many maranaos was illegally captured/detained because of prejudices and bias towards muslims.
uneducated? define mo daw. tsk! meron ako natutunan sa La Salle Academy. Batch’99 ako.
true.. there are some maranao who were cruels but its also true with some christians or non-maranao.
in your words… theres so much hatred and full of discriminations. i pity you.
and yeah… you are coward hiding in missiligan08 nickname. show your true name!
dont bring the issue of rape. we maranaos also victims of rape by soldiers/marines station in MSU-Marawi. like this one – check this link.
educated man ka missiligan08 no? pag research sa og ayaw patakag accused. nag paila lang ka na educated ka.
Facts,
you sounded like leytenian.. trying hard to sound like intellectual when all you manage to bring out in you is your everlasting cluelessness..
Please proved why you described me as cruel..
sama ka sa starbucks? :)
hahaha, natahimik yata bigla ang mga apologists ni de la paz? parang wala na yatang dumedepensa at nagsasabing tama si santa bambee, santo bino, at senor de la paz!
When the rule of law is broken, there is no possibility to implement human rights standards.
When the word of the king alone ( hindi niyo ako kilala) is law there is also no possibility of protecting human rights.
To implement the rule of law, education for the people to voice out their frustration is crucial for democracy. It is also appropriate for the pangandamans to sacrifice for their country and resign from their own cruelty as requested by many.
When rule of law is abused by our own representatives, our country will not produce the desired results for economic growth.
facts, whatever that you are smoking right now, throw it away! call the (+632) 531-9001 immediately! hahaha
hahaha, some people just cannot accept that fact na nadenggoy sila ni bambi.
facts legal bedrock, yan lang ba ang alam mo? oxymoron yata pangalan mo? have you forgotten that a simple denial has almost no weight as evidence?
whatever is that you are smoking right now, throw it away! call the (+632) 531-9001 immediately! hahaha
This is exactly the reason why I hate this family feud to be discussed further in the blogworld. Everybody talking is not really an eyewitness to the melee but based their talking point on second hand account. This will just go back in forth and who has the truth blah blah…. I m begining to feel now that its not really the warring parties that are embarassing the country to the world anymore but the people who keep on trivializing the whole incident making it a national issue, kesyo injustice daw, kesyo race bias, kesyo class wars, may relgious angle etc etc. Diosco! This actually a personal incident between the two groups of players that should simply just be settled in court.
Just why oh why pinatulan ng husto eto ng media? Dahil ba one of the person involved is related to the adminisitration and those rabid anti Gloria immediately saw it as another way of embarrassing her? Aminin!
rego identify yourself.
hmm.. siguro kya ang dami nring nagcomment sa case na to dahil hindi bago yung incident, and maybe just maybe, this time, hindi na mangyyre yung mga nangyre na ang mga nasa may position yung nangaabuso, na laging nananalo and yung nabiktima, wlang nagawa. sa case na to, ang de la paz yung biktima, syempre kase sila yung bugbog eh. It’s just really how the people reacted knowing what the status of our politicians have. Sensitive na kasi ang mga tao ngayon. We really can’t blame the people who gave their comments out, not that I am one of them, of course I am one of them.. I, just like them, is just trying to protect and keep what is left for us in this country. I mean, hindi n bago yung issue na ang politicians eh abusado.. di ba? ayun lng. It’s the issue of right and wrong. At least ngayon, politicians should now be overcautious of their moves, because people are really guarding. HINDI TAYO TANGA. Yun yung sa tingin ko ang gusto iparating ng mga tao sa kasong to.
bakit hindi pwedeng ayusin sa korte yanng walang masyadong ugly public debate at kampihan ng buong sambayanan. The dela paz family kung victim nga sila (kung ang kabilang panig naman ay lumabag sa batas they) can just go to court. They can very much afford an expensive lawyer di ba. They dont need to get the attention of the whole world and emebarass everybody including themselves just to get the justice that they wanted. They can just quietly go to court have their agressor pay for the crime that they believe was comitted to their family…
It just doesn’t makes sense at all!
The people have been voiceless for so long. Now the blogosphere is a medium to express. It’s still young and it needs to grow more for some. There’s nothing wrong with the debate. The on-going publicity may correct the wrongs of others and may open our country to real democracy. Let the politician be bothered by it. Let them deal with it and experience it.
Let them explain and rebuild their credibility, character and conduct of public service.
Express yourself. Let it out even more. This case is a perfect Bang for the new Year.
Just Another Classic Case of Malingering Disorder
Having read, heard and seen in print, radio and tv on this bruhaha, I would say that the truth is now slowly unfolding. For awhile it was only the De La Pazes’ side lording over the news. Anyone who takes their (De La Pazes) statement (at face value) would certainly think of the Pangandamans as the evil ones. The more cerebral people can only probe deeper and gather facts from all sides possible.
The De La Pazes side is everywhere. There’s very few written by the Pangandamans.
I am drawing my opinion from how the whole incident took place as gathered by authorities in Valley Golf and as seen by the people who were present during the incident. I commend Valley Golf for suspending both parties. If the Pangandamans are indeed influential, then suspending them wihtout batting an eyelash is such a valiant and bold step to fairness and objectivity.
If indeed the De La Pazes are blameless, why don’t they get the support of Valley Golf? Why do their fellow golfers say that the elder De La Paz have finally found his match? There are still a lot of not-so-pleasant words said about the De La Pazes by their fellow golfers but I am not about to dwell on them.
This incident shows another sad fact of parenting failure. Just why would any responsible parent pick a fight in front of his kids? Just why can’t any responsible parent exercise prudence and just spare his kids from trouble?
I am even sadder that the youth can bend truths and blog about lies just to cover up an elder’s misdoings.
Sure, some people have finally gained fame on that incident. I just hope it’s worth it.
Don’t be fooled nor used. Please try to reasearch on “Malingering Personality Disorder”. Some personalities in this incident fit into it.
there’s no amount of “other side story” that will change the perception of the people that this country is ruled by incompetent politicians.
The Pangandamans are in deep trouble. Karma is the beginning of no end.
the bigger trouble:
“The real issue here is the political will of this government to implement genuine agrarian reform. We dare Secretary Pangandaman, our brother from Mindanao, to put an end to this lingering arduous issue, and give us hope for a better future for our children,”
Ever wonder why Bambee’s blog URL LINK is written as such?
http://vicissitude-decidido.blogspot.com/2008/12/world-is-fucked-up.html
Because the ORIGINAL POST IS ENTITLED
“THE WORLD IS FUCKED UP”
Eye catching, really. But why is it entitled “THE WORLD HAS GONE CRAZY” now?
Did you know that there’s an EARLIER VERSION of the blog? Tsk tsk tsk. Here’s the post from bilocano of PinoyGolfer.com
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Username: bilocano
Date Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:07 pm
Did you know there was an earlier version of Bambee’s blog? That version follows below, red highlights mine (I lifted it from the email but skipped the headers which show I received it as part of the 5th group to whom that email was forwarded):
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>
>At around 1:30 PM today, at Valley Golf and Country Club, Antipolo
>City, Mayor Nasser Pangandaman, Jr., Mayor of Masiu City, Lanao del
>Sur, his father, Secretary Nasser Pangandaman of the Department of
>Agrarian Reform, and company, beat my defenseless 56-year-old dad and
>my 14-year-old brother to a pulp because of some stupid
>misunderstanding on the golf course.
>
>This is a golf course. I have been a golfer all my life, and I have
>never seen anything like this. NOTHING. This is hard to comprehend.
>And it happened to my own father and my own brother too. Right in
>front of my eyes.
>
>My brother and I were playing golf at the South Course of Valley. We
>were on the 3rd hole, and we see two golf carts going past us,
>overtaking our flight, and setting up to tee off on the next hole. My
>dad goes up to them and asks them why they would do that, why they
>would overtake us without even asking for our permission. Golf
>etiquette 101. One of the guys says that they’re with the flight in
>front of us. (So what? That doesn’t give them the right to just pass
>us WITHOUT asking.) So, we go to the 5th hole. The flight behind us
>catches up with us, and asks us what caused the hold up. We said that
>this flight just slipped in front of our flight. So we complained to
>the marshall. We play the 5th hole and walk towards the next hole,
>where there is a teehouse, and both the flights in front of us were
>there, talking with the marshall. The mayor of Masiu City, Lanao del
>Sur talks with my dad. Things get heated up. Voices were raised. But
>never, in my
>wildest dreams, did I ever imagine that someone would pull out a
>punch. But I guess [color=darkred]the world IS fucked up, [/color]and the mayor is too, so he
>attacks my father. His flightmates, maybe 2 or 3 of them, rush to his
>aid and beat up my father. My 56-year-old father. My younger brother
>and I could not just watch. We rushed to break the fight. My younger
>brother pleads to the mayor to please stop it. To not hurt my dad. To
>just[color=darkred] end this bullshit[/color]. His words still ring through my head…”Sorry
>na po, sorry na po…tama na…tama na po…” With his hands in front
>of his chest in a praying position. PLEADING. The mayor socks him in
>the face. My brother defended himself. My dad is still on the ground
>getting clobbered. My brother is the same way. I try to stop the
>fight, but all I can do is stop one person. There were 4 or 5 of them
>attacking now.
>
>Someone breaks up the fight. I thought it was all over. The mayor
>shouts to his caddy: “Hindi nila kami kilala! Sabihin mo nga sa kanila
>kung sino ako!” And believe me, I had no idea w[color=darkred]ho this piece of
>jackshit[/color] was. But now I know. He’s [color=darkred]the fuckin’ asshole[/color] who, with 4
>other men, beat up my 56-year-old father and my 14-year-old brother.
>He’s [color=darkred]the piece of jackshit [/color]who sacks a pleading 14-year-old kid in the
>face. He’s [color=darkred]the fuckin’ asshole [/color]who, I am sure, is gonna rot in hell.
>
>I lash out, but my dad held me back. I was screaming my lungs out,
>shouting to this mayor, telling him about what he had done. I said:
>”Nakakahiya kayo. Singkwenta’y sais anyos ang tatay ko. And kapatid ko
>kakatorse anyos. Anong ilalaban nila sayo?”
>
>The mayor looks at my brother, point to his face, and says,
>”Tatandaan kita!” And he tells me that my brother has a bad attitude
>and that I need to watch him. [color=darkred]WHAT THE FUCK?! S[/color]o, my brother’s bad for
>defending his father?!
>
>We leave. We walk to the clubhouse to file a complaint. My brother
>asks for a doctor. My dad could barely walk. Their group comes to the
>clubhouse, sees my brother. Once again my brother pleads, says sorry,
>and is crying. [color=darkred]He was FUCKIN’ CRYING[/color], for crissakes. But no. The
>[color=darkred]relentless fuckhead mayor[/color] still punches him in the face, and then sees
>my dad and goes after my dad again. Him and his friend pull my dad to
>the ground, pulls at his feet, and steps on him like he’s dirt. I run
>to him and try to hold him back, holding him back by his shirt, while
>this other guy and this girl (who I swear is [color=darkred]ANOTHER fuckin’ idiot)[/color]
>tries to stop me. She tells me to just stop it. I scream in her face
>”they’re beating my father up and you want me to stop?!” I pull at his
>shirt–I don’t let go. All I can see was my dad being trampled on. I
>didn’t even see my brother getting beat up.
>
>People pull them away. I get my dad, and I saw my brother. His right
>ear was bleeding. I freaked out. I told the receptionists to bring my
>brother to the clinic. I pull my dad away. People were separating us.
>
>My mom and my older brother come. I tell her Bino’s right ear is
>bleeding. They both look like they could kill. [color=darkred]My mom had a miniature
>baseball bat with her, and my older brother had a real one, and they
>lunge to attack. [/color]My dad holds my brother off, I hold off my mom. When
>I finally got my mom under control, my older brother gets away and I
>hold him off. Two of the mayor’s bodyguards pull out guns. I embraced
>my brother from the back, just holding him back, crying. The
>receptionists came to us, crying, hugging me, my dad, and my mom,
>whispering to us to just leave. “Maam, umalis na po kayo, may mga
>baril sila…Maam. ..umalis na po kayo please…”
>
>I am pretty sure the Secretary of DAR did not take part in the fight,
>but he just watched all this happen. He watched two of his sons, as we
>figured out, the other guy was his son, too, beat up my father and my
>14-year-old brother. He didn’t do anything to stop it. And what is
>this [color=darkred]selfish son of a bitch[/color] now? A cabinet member. A politician.
>
>Sounds like something out of a movie, doesn’t it? But this is what
>happened. TODAY. The day after Christmas. To my family. And all I ask
>for is JUSTICE. The people at Valley Golf did not seem to want to help
>us. None of the security guards even tried to stop the fight. Right in
>the clubhouse. I came back after the fight was over and talked to the
>receptionists. They say they did not see anything. The general manager
>of Valley Golf would not give us the names of the men who made my
>brother’s ear bleed. It took him an hour. Even more than that. He
>seemed to not want to help us. Because, we were against the SECRETARY
>OF THE DEPARTMENT OF AGRARIAN REFORM and the MAYOR OF MASIU CITY,
>LANAO DEL SUR. They were all scared.
>
>[color=darkred]The world is fucked up[/color]. Two politicians beat up a defenseless
>56-year-old father and his 14-year-old son. At a golf course. I swear
>to God, I thought golfers were decent people. You would think
>politicians were decent people. I guess not. I guess they gang up on
>56-year-old men and beat up pleading 14-year-old kids.
>
>Please pray for my dad, my brother and for my whole family. Please
>pray that we get JUSTICE. Oh God, please, give these sadistic people
>what they deserve.
>
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My comments:
If the current version is compared to the earlier version, one will miss the “colorful” language and a revealing fact, which shows it has been edited and sanitized.
In summary, I couldn’t find the following anymore:
• But I guess the world IS fucked up, and the mayor is too,
• end this bullshit
• piece of jackshit -fuckin’ asshole
• WHAT THE FUCK?!
• He was FUCKIN’ CRYING
• The relentless fuckhead mayor
• (who I swear is ANOTHER fuckin’ idiot)
• My mom had a miniature baseball bat with her, and my older brother had a real one, and they lunge to attack.
• And what is this selfish son of a bitch now?
• The world is fucked up
It is obvious, the piece has been edited.
What this means is the whole story was not told here. The physical violence is, of course, abominable but if this is the kind of “colorful” language that was used, then it would really be difficult to restrain oneself.
The portion deleted that the brother attacked with a baseball bat, that’s very telling. The fact that it was removed means the blog was too frank and honest to serve the purpose of making oneself the total victim.
My take.
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So sorry, Bambee, you just lost your credibility.
Shame!
In 2007 : Install farmers, fire Pangandaman
This is to show that the pangandamans has no credibility or whatsoever. The farmers continue to complain even until now.
The request for resignation is not only coming from bambee’s supporters but also coming from the very poor.
“BACOLOD City: Farmers on their 17th day of hunger strike in front of the Department of Agrarian Reform (DAR) central office in Quezon City called on President Arroyo to take the responsibility to install them at Hacienda Velez-Malaga and fire Secretary Nasser Pangandaman for being unfit in his job.”
Florenda Hilario, 48, said installing them is a responsibility of the President since Pangandaman as Cabinet secretary is her alter ego.
“Whatever Pangandaman does reflects on the President’s policy and governance. If she is a sincere leader, she will look into our case and take action,” Hilario said.
“Kahiya-hiya para sa isang pangulo ang ginagawa sa amin ng kanyang kalihim, kaya dapat siyang kumilos. I-install niya kami sa aming lupa at tanggalin niya si Pangandaman [What her secretary is doing to us is a shameful thing for the president, so she has to act. She should install us in our land and fire Pangandaman],” she said.
Fire the Pangandamans.
ako ang nahihirapan sa mga pakawala ng mga pangandaman…sa lahat ng blog sites na meron topic tungkol sa dela paz issue…andun din sila pilit na pinapasinungalingan ang mga dela paz…
ang di nila magets…hindi issue kung sino ang nagumpisa….ang issue ay tungkol sa isang pamilyang politiko na nagsisigaw ng:
DI NYO KILALA ANG KINAKALABAN NYO!!! SECRETARY TATAY KO…MAYOR AKO…MALAKAS KAMI SA LANAO!!!
bwihihihihii
Juan_D,
a ok, sabi mo e. hahahaha.
i just want to reiterate, whatever that you are smoking right now, throw it away! call the (+632) 531-9001 immediately!
pulis…hhmmmm assumptionsss…assumptionsss…then conclusionssss…
bad yan sa health mo…sabagay pulis ka nga pala…sunog na kaluluwa mo…at o nga pala…amo mo nga pala ang mga politiko…halik sa pwet ka nga pala bwihihihihi
kape ka muna…sa starbucks…bawasan mo naman yang mga kotong mo jan bwihihihi
Juan_D,
…and you are?
bullshit all of you people !!!. ikaw rin pulis, bullshit.
hindi niyo ba ako kilala?
I gave HER millions of votes. She owed me her seat.
I will not resign over this brawl.
Oh ano, kilala niyo na ako?
I will counter sue for bullshitting me… tandaan niyo yan!!!!
hey cut and paste, welcome to the club. but just like the others, i just want to advise you, whatever is that that you are smoking right now, throw it away! call the (+632) 531-9001 immediately!
Ang talagang pinagmulan ng gulo ay ang marshal na escort ng mayor. Kung sana naghintay makapalo sina dela Paz at sinabi sa kanila ng marshal na hahabol lang sina mayor at mauuna sa kanila, hindi sana nagkagulo. Sa tingin ko, nainis si old man dela Paz na parang binastos sila at lalo sigurong naginit nang nalaman niya mula sa mga caddy na flight ni Sec Pangandaman ang nauuna. Kaya nga nabanggit ni old man dela Paz na “kortesiya lang naman.”
ayos jose. hehehe
Bambee went to the marshal bec. of the group behind them who were whining at that time. Where are they now? Why is there no mention of these people? And to the Pangandaman’s blog protectors, why are you so mad to the dela Paz family. Do you know them personally? Just leave it to the legal system and let them do their job. Don’t interfere with the justice system if there’s one.
You people have been mentioning the 2 sides of the story just listen and wait for the truth to come out. Why fight amongst fellow bloggers. No need to take the comments personally. View your opinions without fighting.
My view on this is, it is hard to believe that the golf employees were not influenced by powerful influential people.
To the golf club employees, tell the truth have conscience. Do not pretend that you don’t know anything. Remember Bambee called your attention with regard to the matter. Meaning she did not want any problem. Please give her the credit that’s due to her. She gave our country honor by playing golf and not by playing politics.
i wonder what is the next thing that the de la paz apologists will say, now that valley golf expells Dela Paz and only suspends for two years the dar chief.
valley golf concluded that de la paz instigated the fight!
putangina kaseng mga muslim yan e magugulo lagi, kaya dapat hindi sila papuntahin dito sa manila, mag jihad na lang sila dun naman sila magaling e