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		<title>By: ariadne</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/what-justice/comment-page-1#comment-1126</link>
		<dc:creator>ariadne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 04:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pardon me for my posts, i was overcomed by my emotion</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pardon me for my posts, i was overcomed by my emotion</p>
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		<title>By: ariadne</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/what-justice/comment-page-1#comment-1125</link>
		<dc:creator>ariadne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 04:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think these criminals should be thrown in a lions den or fed to wild animals then whatever is left of them should be thrown in the trash.  they do not deserve proper burial.  their memories should be burned and wiped out from the face of the earth sparing nothing because the next generation does not need the burden of knowing these bastards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think these criminals should be thrown in a lions den or fed to wild animals then whatever is left of them should be thrown in the trash.  they do not deserve proper burial.  their memories should be burned and wiped out from the face of the earth sparing nothing because the next generation does not need the burden of knowing these bastards.</p>
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		<title>By: ariadne</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/what-justice/comment-page-1#comment-1123</link>
		<dc:creator>ariadne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 04:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>majority of the crimes that i hear about in the philippines are either done by muslim extrimists or security guards, ex security guards, ex police, ex soldier etc.  our country is really unstable because we don&#039;t know who to trust now.  the very people responsible for our safety are the ones jeopardizing it.  i think responsible citizens should own guns while the country is this unstable.  had these people in the bank held their own weapon, they would not have died lined up like some captive in a concentration camp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>majority of the crimes that i hear about in the philippines are either done by muslim extrimists or security guards, ex security guards, ex police, ex soldier etc.  our country is really unstable because we don&#8217;t know who to trust now.  the very people responsible for our safety are the ones jeopardizing it.  i think responsible citizens should own guns while the country is this unstable.  had these people in the bank held their own weapon, they would not have died lined up like some captive in a concentration camp.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/what-justice/comment-page-1#comment-851</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 06:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@jilley, much condolence to you and your family.  What we are doing here, may not be enough, but we are trying our best to make sense out of this senseless incident.. 

I have visited your Multiply page, and it is definitely a sad time for you.. I too lost my father a few years back, and while the scenarios may be different, I feel the pain of losing a father figure..

Your strength is needed, I know, but let the pain come through, you owe it to yourself..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jilley, much condolence to you and your family.  What we are doing here, may not be enough, but we are trying our best to make sense out of this senseless incident.. </p>
<p>I have visited your Multiply page, and it is definitely a sad time for you.. I too lost my father a few years back, and while the scenarios may be different, I feel the pain of losing a father figure..</p>
<p>Your strength is needed, I know, but let the pain come through, you owe it to yourself..</p>
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		<title>By: marnat22</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/what-justice/comment-page-1#comment-850</link>
		<dc:creator>marnat22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 06:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it is now time to consider capital punishment as crime rate in our country rises again. our lawmakers must present laws more favoring victims of crime coz they can not talk anymore. suspects must stay in jail without bail until they are not cleared. 
   in progressive middle east countries there are no gruesome killings like this, so maybe this time we can adopt their laws regarding crimes of this nature.
   i also giving my regards to vacc and other organizations defending the rights of the victims of heineous crimes.
   thanx for reading my comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it is now time to consider capital punishment as crime rate in our country rises again. our lawmakers must present laws more favoring victims of crime coz they can not talk anymore. suspects must stay in jail without bail until they are not cleared.<br />
   in progressive middle east countries there are no gruesome killings like this, so maybe this time we can adopt their laws regarding crimes of this nature.<br />
   i also giving my regards to vacc and other organizations defending the rights of the victims of heineous crimes.<br />
   thanx for reading my comments.</p>
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		<title>By: jilley</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/what-justice/comment-page-1#comment-712</link>
		<dc:creator>jilley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 01:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>im the eldest daughter of bernard. i had just read this post and also the comments. thanks to all of you. let us all continue praying for their peace and for justice.

thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>im the eldest daughter of bernard. i had just read this post and also the comments. thanks to all of you. let us all continue praying for their peace and for justice.</p>
<p>thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: mabini</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/what-justice/comment-page-1#comment-675</link>
		<dc:creator>mabini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 02:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JL, i think its not as simple as taking the money, run and hide for those poverty stricken persons perpetrating these crimes. they are not the old types small time robbers and thieves.

if we profile those people - the poorest of our society - living in shanties no better than a rat hole or the ghettos in Bronx NY, after so many years of neglect (lack of education, food, house), abuse/exploitation (political votes, constant zoning), exposure to so many crimes in their area and even having no religion (most dont go to church except when there&#039;s free food distribution), we can say that they psychologically and emotionally imbalanced. the personality outcome would be ruthlessness and cold-bloodedness. with large proportion of our population (30% or more - 27M) classified as poorest to poor, we can expect this will continue for many years. of course, not all of them.

what&#039;s the solution therefore? well, the government can imprison them all but its too shallow solution.  if they do not have proper education or trainings, who will employ them? the government has to sincerely address this worsening poverty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JL, i think its not as simple as taking the money, run and hide for those poverty stricken persons perpetrating these crimes. they are not the old types small time robbers and thieves.</p>
<p>if we profile those people &#8211; the poorest of our society &#8211; living in shanties no better than a rat hole or the ghettos in Bronx NY, after so many years of neglect (lack of education, food, house), abuse/exploitation (political votes, constant zoning), exposure to so many crimes in their area and even having no religion (most dont go to church except when there&#8217;s free food distribution), we can say that they psychologically and emotionally imbalanced. the personality outcome would be ruthlessness and cold-bloodedness. with large proportion of our population (30% or more &#8211; 27M) classified as poorest to poor, we can expect this will continue for many years. of course, not all of them.</p>
<p>what&#8217;s the solution therefore? well, the government can imprison them all but its too shallow solution.  if they do not have proper education or trainings, who will employ them? the government has to sincerely address this worsening poverty.</p>
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		<title>By: RCBC Cabuyao Bank Robbery Victims and Their Families » A Filipina Mom Blogger »</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/what-justice/comment-page-1#comment-645</link>
		<dc:creator>RCBC Cabuyao Bank Robbery Victims and Their Families » A Filipina Mom Blogger »</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 03:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] What Justice? by Rom [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jon Limjap</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/what-justice/comment-page-1#comment-641</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Limjap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 02:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick,

Agreed, she has no right to even utter the word justice. Unfortunately, it&#039;s part of her job.

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Before we take this discussion to another &quot;it&#039;s because of poverty and it&#039;s because of the government&quot; rhetoric, let&#039;s analyze what happened.

If you&#039;re poor, and you wanna be rich, you take the money. No need to kill anyone.

If you&#039;re taking the money, and you need to kill someone to be able to take, it&#039;s either because 

a) that person prevented you from taking it and thus were obstacles that had to be eliminated

b) those persons can easily identify you for some reason

Something to think about. Poverty doesn&#039;t create maniacs. Something else does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick,</p>
<p>Agreed, she has no right to even utter the word justice. Unfortunately, it&#8217;s part of her job.</p>
<p>&#8212;-</p>
<p>Before we take this discussion to another &#8220;it&#8217;s because of poverty and it&#8217;s because of the government&#8221; rhetoric, let&#8217;s analyze what happened.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re poor, and you wanna be rich, you take the money. No need to kill anyone.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re taking the money, and you need to kill someone to be able to take, it&#8217;s either because </p>
<p>a) that person prevented you from taking it and thus were obstacles that had to be eliminated</p>
<p>b) those persons can easily identify you for some reason</p>
<p>Something to think about. Poverty doesn&#8217;t create maniacs. Something else does.</p>
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		<title>By: Make our justice system work &#124; Filipino Voices</title>
		<link>http://filipinovoices.com/what-justice/comment-page-1#comment-638</link>
		<dc:creator>Make our justice system work &#124; Filipino Voices</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 02:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of my esteemed co-bloggers here at Filipino Voices have already expressed their opinion (in Rom&#8217;s case, her anguish), and this part from Atty. Butch&#8217;s post caught my interest: I&#8217;m certain the RCBC [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of my esteemed co-bloggers here at Filipino Voices have already expressed their opinion (in Rom&#8217;s case, her anguish), and this part from Atty. Butch&#8217;s post caught my interest: I&#8217;m certain the RCBC [...]</p>
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