Comments on: When does Human Life Begin? A Secular View

By: adam

adam — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 05:18:41 +0000

this is stupid…..its human its alive thats “human life”….i know your just starting to emerge from your huts but dont let these people fool you. they will soon use the same arguments to justify killing you, under the guize that personhood is a social construct and if the majority does not recognize it than it is not equal. human life begins when there is a unique DNA structer that formed from 2 different DNA structures, or even cloneing,once development begins. thats what makes it “individual” . many of the “brain arguments” given here would also justify killing people in there sleep. your not garentied to wake up but its probible. just like an embro isnt garentied to develope but its probible.

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By: Dean Jorge Bocobo

Dean Jorge Bocobo — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 13:04:47 +0000

Yeah, Bruce, some of those “advocates” even include Bishops and Cardinals who claim condoms don’t protect against HIV/Aids, and who do proclaim such plain untruths as that contraception is tantamount to abortion. I happen to believe that human life does begin at conception, but much as the Church tries to make it seem like a scientific question, it’s really all about power based on ignorance and dogma. It’s a truly wicked teaching that causes untold human suffering while they smoke their holy incense…like that bit about limbo…, just before they trot out the argument you do denying that something is part of “Catholic theology.” Puhleeze. The jig is up. It’s an evil Church that lies to its faithful.

By: Bruce in Iloilo

Bruce in Iloilo — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 12:22:35 +0000

Brainwaves are actually detectable at 56 days, but detectability doesn’t tell you when the brain started function.

There is more then one measure for when someone dies: for instance, a stopped heart. So, shouldn’t a beating heart — at 28 days — be a measure for life beginning?

But neither brain waves or heartbeats defines a human being. A human being is simply an organized collection of cells sharing a unique DNA that then grown and multiple, take in oxygen and expel carbon dioxide. That starts at conception. From then until you read this blog, you — your cells — have been growing and multiplying, taking in oxygen and expelling carbon dioxide. That ends at death, which thanks to modern technology is not an easy a line as it used to be.

As for Catholic teaching, we should not misrepresent it. Catholic theology does not equate contraception with abortion. The latter is killing a human being already alive and the former is interfering with nature. They are not the same in Catholic theology even if some of the advocates confuse the issue.

By: The Jester-in-Exile

The Jester-in-Exile — Tue, 30 Sep 2008 03:16:50 +0000

on a quick revisit of my stand re jeg, i suppose it would be this:

unless and until RH programs that promote access to contraceptives and promote effective RH education have finally reduced RH-related metrics significantly (i.e., slowdown of HIV cases, decreased infant mortality, reduction of the population growth rate, reduction in abortion rates), then i will continue not be strongly opposed to the woman’s right to choose.

By: cvj

cvj — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 08:31:22 +0000

’Fetus’ is an interesting choice of term, btw. I use the more archaic term ‘baby’ – Jeg

I’ve heard some women refer to human sperm as ‘baby’ which shows how far we still to go in terms of education.

By: The Jester-in-Exile

The Jester-in-Exile — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 08:04:42 +0000

When every Filipino has enough information on what to do to prevent conception, maybe jester would revisit his position on women having the right to choose whether or not to bring the fetus to term, knowing that she couldve prevented said pregnancy.

i certainly would.

By: Jeg

Jeg — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 07:53:31 +0000

i often wonder what standing do we men have when we are not the folks getting pregnant?

It’s part of the defending-the-defenseless duty we as members of society have. That’s why we’re so concerned with our fellow Filipinos not having enough information on how their reproductive systems operate even though we have no standing to complain when Jenny from the block gets pregnant with her eighth child. We care about Jenny and her kids. When every Filipino has enough information on what to do to prevent conception, maybe jester would revisit his position on women having the right to choose whether or not to bring the fetus to term, knowing that she couldve prevented said pregnancy. (‘Fetus’ is an interesting choice of term, btw. I use the more archaic term ‘baby’. ;-) )