Retrogressing Education
Consider this pronouncement from Chiz Whiz:
Secondly, Mr. Speaker, we should and we propose that the curriculum be restudied. Mr. Speaker, I know that this will generate a lot of debate but I hope that our colleagues will listen for awhile. Sa ngayon, umaabot sa nine to eleven ang subjects ng ating mga estudyante sa elementary at high school. Nakukuba na ang ating mga estudyante sa kakabitbit ng napakaraming libro. Subalit ang tanong ko ho: Ito ba ay angkop pa rin sa pangangailangan ng ating bansa sa ngayon? Ang kanila po bang pinag-aralan ay nagagamit nila sa kanilang buhay sa labas ng paaralan at magagamit kapagka sila ay naghanap ng trabaho?
I can only cite myself as an example, Mr. Speaker, but mula po nung natapos ako nung high school hindi ko pa nagamit ang Calculus, hindi ko pa ho nagamit and Trigonometry, hindi ko pa ho nagamit and Algebra, IYUNG GEOMETRY, SA BILYAR KO LANG NAGAMIT. At iyong mga ibang itinuturo ay marapat sigurong ituro sa kolehiyo kung nais maging inhinyero ng isang bata. Iyong mga ibang itinuturo, marapat sigurong ibigay na lamang nating sa kanila sa kolehiyo o bilang elective pagdating ng high school.
He couldn’t grasp the necessity of mathematics, therefore he’d rather keep math out of the elementary and high school curriculum, during a time when the rest of the world is upgrading its mathematics curriculum. For example, this is what the Londonderry School District of New Hampshire has to say on the importance of math in the curriculum
The Importance of Mathematics
At all levels grades preK-12, the Londonderry School District has placed mathematics as a top priority along with reading. Why mathematics? Mathematics is the foundation for success in a variety of content areas during a child’s educational experience. According to a U.S. Department of Education’s Mathematics Equals Opportunity White Paper – October 1997, the authors concluded the following:
- Students who take a rigorous K-12 mathematics sequence are more likely to go to college than those who do not.
- Students of all income levels who take rigorous math courses in high school are more likely to go to college.
- In the job market, students who have strong mathematics backgrounds are more likely to be employed and earn 38% more per hour than those with insufficient skills in algebra, geometry, measurement, and probability.
Mathematics is crucial not only for success in school, but in being an informed citizen, being productive in one’s chosen career, and in personal fulfillment. In today’s technology driven society, greater demands have been placed on individuals to interpret and use mathematics to make sense of information and complex situations. As a result, the Londonderry School District places the understanding, application of numbers and operations, algebra, geometry, measurement, data analysis, problem-solving, and reasoning skills as a top priority.
During the students’ primary years, our focus is on learning number and operations, basic measurement, and basic understanding of data. As students move into the intermediate and middle school years, a greater emphasis is placed on the practice and reinforcement of basic math facts and operations while at the same time increasing the depth of understanding of skills in algebra and geometry.
At the high school level, while our focus remains on fundamental mathematical concepts and skills to prepare all students to be productive members of society, students encounter new perspectives in algebra and geometry as well as new ways of analyzing data within formal mathematics courses and other high school courses in science, social studies, business, and other electives.
Our high school academic expectations are clear:
- Students will be able to formulate, critically analyze, and solve a variety of problems.
- Students will be able to use various forms of communication to accurately receive, process, and deliver information.
Through their experiences at Londonderry High School, students are expected to have a strong understanding of mathematical computation, concepts and processes, problem-solving, reasoning and analysis while using mathematics to make sense of, and to solve complex problems in a variety of applications.
Here’s Chiz asking us to allow the retrogression of our youth – to lessen their ability to “formulate, critically analyze, and solve a variety of problems”. Seriously, do you really want this? Do you really want more dumb Filipinos? Then by all means, vote for Chiz Escudero.
An Indictment of Party Politics or Putting the Cart Before the Horse?
As generally defined,
A political party is a political organization that seeks to attain and maintain political power within government, usually by participating in electoral campaigns. Parties often espouse an expressed ideology or vision bolstered by a written platform with specific goals, forming a coalition among disparate interests.
Here comes Chiz again,
Una, sino man po ang nagpapaplanong tumakbo bilang pangulo, dapat wala pong partidong kinabibilangan –NPC, LP , NP, Lakas o ano pa man. Ang dapat na partidong kinabibilangan ng sino mang nagpaplanong tumakbo, dapat po Pilipinas. At lahat ng mga kapartido niya, dapat lahat din ng Pilipino.
The statement shows Chiz’ grasp party politics, it shows that:
- Chiz concept of a political party is limited to his experience with parties such as LP, NP, NPC, Lakas-Kampi – trad-pol parties. These are trapo parties, of course there will be horsetrading, what do you expect? He misses the fact that there are other political parties which have ideologically motivated members – for instance, Kapatiran, Bayan Muna, and Akbayan.
- Whoever runs for the presidency is a citizen of the Philippines – in a manner of speaking, the candidate is already a member of the party called Philippines – and his party mates are all the Philippine citizens. Chiz sure knows how to pander to a vacuous crowd!
- However, lets consider the proposition of the Philippines as THE Party, and citizens as Party members – sounds like a one party state like China, Vietnam, Cuba, and North Korea. Are the people cheering Chiz ready for a one party state? Remember, even one party states have factions within the party, which if there were no prohibitions against political parties other than the state party, these factions will evolve into political parties.
Nonpartisan politics would be fine with a highly educated, relatively affluent responsible voters who are not beholden to patrons, who will take the time to discern and vet candidates. It might seems that Chiz was innovative when he floated the idea of nonpartisan elections. If he had done his homework, he would have found that unless there are legal prohibitions against political parties, factions within nonpartisan systems often evolve into political parties.
Dumb and Dumber?
Chiz indictment of party politics because it does not serve him is consistent with his thinking process when he indicted of Calculus, Algebra, and Geometry because he wasn’t able to use it in his profession as a lawyer.
Though Chiz recent policy recommendations provide a glimpse:
- Provide passing grades to the students who weren’t able to come to class due to Ondoy. We know how the teachers reacted to this prescription – the teachers gave Chiz an F.
- Remove math from the elementary and high school curriculum and make it an elective. We also know how the teachers reacted to this prescription – the teachers gave Chiz another F.
The question then is what are these reforms Chiz wants to accomplish?
He needs to organize his thoughts and articulate his policy goals and prescriptions into a platform.
In doing so, Chiz rises above the demagoguery – or proves beyond reasonable doubt, that he is one helluva demagogue.
Popularity: 2% [?]
Imagine life in a Philippines devoid of math if Chiz had his way.
We would have:
Perhaps he could test his “education” proposals on his own children first before suggesting its implementation on anyone else. (Of course, knowing what this guy is made of, that would only be detrimental to the Escudero kids, because he just might be crazy enough to do it. So scratch that.)
I disagree with Chiz Escudero on the issue of Education. Subjects
are studied in elementary and high school. To broaden your knowledge
of the world. Life is complicated. The world is marvelous. The subjects you studied are your potential tools in dealing with life.
I am a Technically educated man. Technical matters and issues can
really bore you. If you deal with them, day in and day out. So, I
have to self educate myself with: history, religions, literatures,
humanities, philosophy, poetry, geography, etc…
To put into your head knowledge gives you an edge in life. Knowledge
is really power.
Chiz is at gross error to devalue math as a basic course in the Philipine educational system.
Were it true that lawyers are poor in math, is there any scientific ground that they can be good in logic?
Chiz is the ‘product’ of a Marcos crony, the mold that we normally ascribe as coming from the old breed of ‘trapos’.
It is no wonder then that Chiz pretty much exhibits the characteristics of ‘trapos’ although young of age and experience. For that reason, no higher logic can really come out of most of his statements made public.
To demonize the very political party that must have disowned him simply because it did not anoint him is classic indication that politics in this country is nothing but for SELF-AGGRANDIZEMENT.
The very agent of this phenomenon is one like Chiz.
you could just imagine if the people would vote for him for president.
when you study math, trigo and geometry and become conversant with the subjects, you applied the principles you have learend innately. innately. geometry and math develop one’s deductive and logical reasoning, it is more than the ability to manipulate cold numbers and odd shapes.
reminds me of a mom who asked his young son to buy a peso of vinegar and a peso of cooking oil and gave put one peso on his left hand for the vinegar and another peso on the right hand for cooking oil. the boy stumbled down and throw the two coins on the ground. he picked them back up and went back to his mom to ask which coin is for the vinegar and which is for the cooking oil.
or if you were asked to divide a cake in half or in quadrant, your concept of what is half one fourth is a factor of your skills of math and geometry. imagine if you do not know what is one half and one is one fourth, the simple act of treating your guests with a plateful of cake during your birthday would be a tremendous agony. hehehehehe!!!!
here’s another headline that hasnt been used yet:
“Who moved my chiz?”
hahaha (this is also a title of a mgnt book…)
nachichira na ulo ni chiz o baka ayaw nya ng chigonometri o machimatiks o arithmichic…anak ng wee naman, kaya bahay kubo lang ang nagagawa ng marami kasi kualng sa math
Forgive my obnoxious condescension. I’m an American. We have no sensitivity. I . . . just . . . can’t . . . help . . . myself . . .
Chiz Whiz and Erap. Find one more and we have the three stooges of Asia, sauntering about as if they were God’s gift to wisdom, the self anointed intelligentsia of the Islands. Ah, wait. I have it. Sponge Bob! Sponge Bob, Chiz Whiz and Erap. Grand icons of Philippine sophistication and good sense. Well, Sponge Bob is an import, I know, but the style fits so well . . . so laughable, so colorful, so bigger than life . . . so able to save us peons from ourselves with their grand selflessness, their heroic sacrifice, spread like Jesus on the hallowed altar of public service martyrdom.
Vote Erap and Chiz Whiz and 100 pesos to the dollar!
Joe
joe,
these guys have already found the third stooge it’s brilliant! no importation necessary! haha
http://utakngtilapia.com/?p=184
some days i just couldn’t stand the circus of philippine politics. but that blog makes it bearable, even funny.
Just goes to show you that Philippine politics is anti-intellectual. Nothing new I guess.
Countries who have students on top in Math and Science, are the
countries on the top of Technologies. We can all become Lawyers.
Debate all the time. Or give some nonesense speculations. When a
useless politician sneeze. This is our favorite pastime.
We are at the bottom heap in technology. We have Engineers who
graduate and work as OFW. Myself included, I left the country
because I cannot find good opportunities or a sensible career.
Hyden: Wala kang kasalanan kung bakit hindi ka nakakuha ng engineering job noong gumaradweyt ka ng kolehiyo. Guilt belongs to two groups. First group — the rich Tsinoys who did not invest in factories and other manufacturing facilities. I don’t blame them for hiring new graduates with Chinese language skills. If the tsinoys they invested in other factories, there would be more jobs for new graduates.
The other guilty group — the UP-Diliman, Mapua, La Salle, Ateneo engineers (electrical, civil, chemical, software/computer, others) who graduated 5 years or 9 years ahead of you. Marami-rami din silan, hindi ba? They did not take the chance to be entrepreneurs and start their own job shops and other businesses in the Philippines. Technology was simpler then — calculators versus computers, simple radio (monaural) or stereo versus 5.1 and high-def. Instead they chose to become OFW empleyados in Singapore, Dubai, Canada, other countries. Too bad. They left Pilipinas to join the brain-drain, ibang bansa ang nakinabang sa kanilang pinag-aralan at napabilis lalo ang lubog ng Pilipinas.
Investment (whether by a Tsinoy, or a non-Tsinoy) will always consider many factors on the industries they will invest in. Check out this paper on – http://www.acci.asn.au/text_files/issues_papers/2007/May/AttractingForeignDirectInvestmentMay2007.pdf
As the paper points out – ““In other words, the most effective way to realise the full potential of investment is to put in place a range of conditions needed to attract and sustain these investments for the long term.” This implies that, the Philippines has yet to provide a range of conditions that will encourage investors (not just Tsinoys) to invest in manufacturing and industry.
The “Pinoy Dream” is to land a comfy white collar job that provides for house and lot with a car, and provide their children with good education. The “Tsinoy Dream” is to build a business that will provide for more businesses, a house and lot with a car, and provide their children with good education. Guess who winds up owning a business?
However, those attitudes are changing. As OFW professionals get exposed to other cultures and alternative ways for achieving prosperity, they are becoming the first wave of entrepreneurs who not only remit money but invest in local businesses. However, their enthusiasm is dampened when upon returning to the Philippines, the avenues for introducing better ways of doing things is hosed down by the locals who have not had the opportunity to venture farther than their barangay’s limits. There will be a clash of points of view – and entropy prevails.
Chiz “Boy Laway” Escudero is a moron.
One of his lackeys/frat brods claims they made a comprehensive study of the educational system in the ASEAN. As it turns out, this ‘study’ is like an imaginary number. Chiz “Boy Laway” Escudero dug deep into his imbecilic lawyerly brain and came up with that speech against uplifting the standard of primary education to the same levels as the developed countries because he wants to dumb down the future of our country so we’ll keep voting idiots like him.
Chiz “Boy Laway” Escudero, ipahid sa basura, hwag sa gobyerno
Filipino Politicians want it that way, as it is. If people
are not well informed, uneducated and ignorant. Then, you can run for office. Distribute to people: tuyo, noodles, rice, etc…Take Wowowee Revillame and Pokwang with you to entertain. You surely become a winner in an election. No sweat, no brain power for a platform. If you are a Filipino Politician. How good can you get to be easily elected?
PS. I bet one of Chiz “Boy Laway’ Escudero’s frat brods/lackeys/julalay/groupies will say Chiz was ‘misquoted’.
This is Chiz “Anak ng Marcos Henchman” Escudero standard line of defense.
ano na nagyari sa mass promotion nya?
sira pala sya second quarter pa lang ipropose nya yun.
out of the box daw para maiba naman.
habol nya ang kabataan?
nakuha na nya nag mag boto ng mga ayaw mag aral at natutulog sa math and science classes nila.
isa pa na mukhang nalimutan na natin….ang pag akala nya sa pamamagitan calculator lang alam na nya kung gaano kadaming tubig ang dapat irelease ng mga dam.
Ang masama nito,maraming sumakay at kumagat.
sumakay.
kumagat.
di lang nakaupo sa front seat.
so front bumper pa talaga.
here are the stats so far:
Gloria: BongV says she’s a liar, some says she’s a cheater, still others says she’s a crook. Well, her cabinet people and most anti-pinoy dudes except UP n who is not an anti-pinoy say she’s the best president.
Villar: some says he’s a crook too, although BongV says it’s alright he’s a crook as long as he returns some of the wealth to the people.
Noynoy: some (including BongV) says he’s honest and clean but no record of excellent accomplishment.
Gibo: some says he’s as brilliant as Marcos but a clone of GMA and admitted it too.
Chiz: BongV says he’s a demagogue because he talked nonsense.
Guys, take your pick.
Bert naman, ba’t ba ayaw mong ilagay ang pangalan ni Perlas – honest competent visionary but not winnable? :)
ok.
Perlas: BongV says Perlas is clean and has excellent records and platform but BongV cannot guarantee Perlas will not do a GMA who was clean too before she became president and look at what she has done to the country. And, presently, Perlas is sleeping in the cellar..zzzzzz, snore, zzzzzz, snore, ngooorrkk.
si Gibo umamin na clone ni GMA, kelan nys sina bi eto, Can you provide the link?
sabi niya bilib siya sa kanyang presidente kaya itutuloy niya mga dating patakaran at gawi ng presidente. ‘o di ba? kung ganun din ang kanyang mga gagawin gaya ng mga ginawa ni President GMA, eh, di ganuin din ang mga magiging resulta. kya, parang ‘clone’ rin siya ng presidente.
Unless, naniniwala ka na iyon at iyon din ang gagawin pero iba ang magiging resulta, hehehe.
mabuti yata ‘carbon copy’ na lang gamitin ko imbes na ‘clone’ para mas maliwanag. baka ako ma-question ni Filo tungkol sa meaning ng ‘clone’.
Aww shucks!
Been to a C party again have you?
Hehe.
During the course of my early college career. I have studied electro/mechanical drafting, and we’ve used the basics fundamentals of mathematics to solve design issue. Then came along, AutoCAD Inventor and ProE (Pro Engineering). Without the knowledge of basic math, one cannot function using these technologies.
So, Mr. Chiz Escudero, the problem cannot be solve while your in the Administration. You are the degrading factor, of the School System. And it’s a damn shame we have, but a few, in our government that’s perpetuating the system. To me, that sounds pretty cheesy.
Technology advances day to day. Especially in all areas of sciences. What is new technology in the Philippines. May be two years old already in technologically advanced countries.
We are advancing very fast in technology. The Philippines is
too much preoccupied by senseless political squabbles. Of who
is running; and who is not. We have brains who migrate as OFW.
Because their pays are not even enough to support a family. We
are losing brains to develop the country. We become a consumer
country. Dependent on the technologies of other countries. So,
we will always remain poor consumers. Ruled by Idiotic political leaders.
It’s not at all about education, it should be about attitude
Your attitude can only take you so much when you are given a qualifying exam that includes advanced math – (this assumes you don’t have taken any basic math – as prescribed by Chiz).
BongV,
The one upstairs is lost, make sure she finds a way downstairs.
WTF! she needs a good cup of coffee, to jolt her sense(s).
Tha is a girl, right!
Developerholic,
Must be a programmer!
Done a few myself, but I’ve step aside.
I am a Electro/Mechanical Desingner by trade.
Education, what ever it maybe. Should always be part of our lives.
To some, math is boring, or it can be complex system to others.
Let me educate you a wee bit, about math derivative. This is a classic example of this certain individual.
This individual was introduced to the fundamental of mathematics at an early age. However, he did not pursue the course on abstract. Nevertheless, he gain momentum knowing the fields of mathematics. And now, he has partner/owner of a firm. And stands aside withe the CEO. I very proud that the knowledge of mathematics can take an individual to a great prosperity.
This is my son, Jonathan Mark Taporco
I am not going to hyperlink it, but if you want to go there.
You are welcome to do so.
His the only Filipino and standing proud.
http://www.1financialresources.com/
we propose that the curriculum be restudied
ang hindi marunong magbasa ng contexto ni chiz, ay sana wag na lang mag-react.
1. did chiz ever suggest the abolition of mathematics? no!
2. is the curriculum worth reevaluating? yes!
3. the londonerrry school district has come up with correlation studies, which could actually apply to all courses.
4. anti-intellectual policy? hell not. who among our policymakers have imagined ever inviting debate on this issue? they’d rather debate on the form of government. but on education–hell not!
5. of course, am not voting for chiz. but on this issue to be debated upon, he gets my vote.
hay, kung sinu-sino pa hindi magaling sa math nuong college, sila pa ang nagiingay.
the debate can go along this line (see link below), and not on criticism against an individual who, after all, is not a lone voice in questioning math’s relevance, nor should it rely on template-based objectives from district schools who need to abide by state school requirements–there are no fresh insight there, nor an authority that is just blindly following a program that is expected of them to carry through. in which case, chiz’s proposition is more reflective of a forward thinking approach.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/126120/is_math_beyond_advanced_algebra_really.html
The article’s statement was:
Compare that statement to this:
In the previous article, the proposal was to actually put in more math so that “College freshmen pursuing degrees in Math, Science, Engineering, and Technology would then have an easier time adjusting to college-level Math courses.”
Chiz wants to make math an elective –
that may be chosen but is not required; optional.
The article you cited disagrees with Chiz.
inidoro ni emilie ikaw po di marunong magbasa e react kayo ng react dyan plis po basahin niyo reference niyo po bago humirit para di mapahiya.dati nagbabasa lang ako dito e di ako nakatiis dahil masyado ere ng mga chiz supporter wala naman ibibuga ehemplo sila lahat ng edukasyon by chiz nakakahiya
dapat talaga si gordon tumakbo for president may kwenta may nagagawa may tunay na credentials walang nakaw walang patay na magulang na sinasamantala at hindi marcos crony.di siya papayag maging bobo pilipinas
and did i say the article has to agree with chiz? i said the debate should go along the line of issues, not on personalities.
hirit pa dong.
no, that’s not the article’s statement. read the conclusion on page 2. like i said nobody here is shutting out math, not chiz, not the article. they only invite debate because really it appears there is validity in raising questions on the relevance of maths in the pursuit of one’s interest, especially among non-maths people. am not even talking as someone who does not despise the subject at all.
dong, and what has gordon to do with my arguments. am not even campaining for either of chiz or dickhead.
here’s how the article reference ended, which does not veer far away from chiz’s and many others’ experiences:
There is general unanimity that the curriculum needs to be improved.
The crux of the matter is – how such improvement takes place.
In the previous article, the proposal was to actually put in more math so that “College freshmen pursuing degrees in Math, Science, Engineering, and Technology would then have an easier time adjusting to college-level Math courses.”
Chiz wants to make math an elective –
that may be chosen but is not required; optional.
See the difference? :)
inodoro ni emilie,
Here’s a quote from Agatha Christie; The Mirror Crack’d
“I think you’re begging the question,” said Haydock, “and I can see looming ahead one of those terrible exercises in probability where six men have white hats and six men have black hats and you have to work it out by mathematics how likely it is that the hats will get mixed up and in what proportion. If you start thinking about things like that, you would go round the bend. Let me assure you of that!”
Probability is the very guide of life. For this reason, fundamentals mathematics should be part of the early stage of our curriculum. Not an elective subject.
Our class did a similar equation dealing with this subject. Let me ask you a simple probability question, inodoro ni emilie. “what is your fundamentals in mathematics?”
To me, it sounds like, arithmetic is not your priority in classrooms. I think, you sound pretty cheesy as “Chiz” in cheetos.
i would like to assume that emilie is only interested in the debate as to whether we add more math/trigo/geometry subbjects in elementary and/or high school and not at all speaking her aversion towards those subjects nor would i take it to mean that she has an F in math. i don’t like math and could be the reason why i have achieved only so much…
Who said he suggested the abolition of mathematics? His statement was to make mathematics an elective subject in high school unless the student wants to take engineering. Is engineering the only profession where math is applied?
The entire health profession has applied mathematics embedded into it – dosages, medications, etc. Physicians, nurses, PT, OT, even CNAs!
A sales career involves applied mathematics – unless you want to keep on being shortchanged.
More so with finance, commerce, and accounting – note that the bulk of college graduates are in these courses.
The IT industry is built on math. A For-next loop is an application of the integral.
Top-flight management deals with Quantitative analysis, decision trees, the whole nine yards.
Professionals need to compute estimates of their service fees – you still need math, even cost accounting for that.
Introducing mathematics early allows the student to get a focus on his prospective career early on. There are many instances of students thinking higher math is tough and terrible, only to take a liking for it once the subject is introduced. As a side issue, this is a matter of pedagogy and content delivery – rote learning versus an interactive approach.
There is general agreement that the curriculum needs to be re-evaluated. But it does not stop there. Chiz went on to provide a prescription – make math an elective, optional. That’s where he drew fire. When the rest of the developed economies are beefing up Math in order to improve competitiveness and productivity, Chiz proposes making it optional. What does Chiz want? More lazy dumbazzes?
not only the londonderry school district, but the school system itself – from federal to state to county to town and city.
who among the policymakers are intellectual? vamos aber. so, how come congress gets filled up with policymakers who are not intellectual? were they appointed? who selected/chose/elected these policymakers? committee on silence anyone? :)
depends on which issue specifically you are talking about. reviewing and improving the curriculum is a non-issue. improving the curriculum by making math elective in elementary and high school – is not improvement – it is retrogression. he does not get my vote. if you want to have more dumb pinoys, by all means give your vote to Chiz.
jcc,
Continual education is never to late. It’s an ongoing process of our daily lives.
Good luck, on your brighter future ahead.
BongV,
Very well articulated.
If they don’t get your point, there’s definately some loose screws.
““The entire health profession has applied mathematics embedded into it – dosages, medications, etc. Physicians, nurses, PT, OT, even CNAs!” — BongV
Not only these professions.
I remember not too long ago where I grilled an engineer witness who claimed that my client had installed a misaligned shaft of a centralized airconditioning turbine that services the entire hotel and caused the system to break. The shaft was about 4 meters in length and attached to series of blades that spin at around 5000 rpm inside a big cylinder and it breaks after a month of operation. I have to establish first the fact that end points of the shaft are hooked up to a cylindrical bearings that allows a hairline clearance for the shaft to fit in. If the shaft is misaligned with a fraction of .001 millimeter half-way its length of 4 meters the other end of the shaft will overshoot the hairline clearance at the cylindrical bearing and there is no way you can fit that into that bearing hole at the opposite end. I think this illustrates Euclid’s theorem that the shortest distance between two points is a straight line or something to that effect or the variation thereof. The judge saw the concept well and ordered the hotel to pay my client the balance of P700,000.00 contract price, though we have proved also that the cause of the malfunction was the electrical outage which my client had tried to prevent by recommending to the hotel to purchase an electrical tripper that will slow down gradually the turbine before it makes a complete stop in case of electrical failure which the hotel did not purchase because it considered the cost of the gadget not cost effective and the system broke a day after the outage.
Try this for size:
Jut work in McDonald’s serving food for $3/day when you can make $35/hr elsewhere.
And yes, math required!
the educational system is in kaputz,
and you propose to put the final nail on the coffin :)
the rest of the world’s advanced economies are putting more advanced math in the curriculum – including the BRIC block.
while these economies move forward by equipping their citizens with all the tools available, you propose to create a handicap.
interesting observation. now show me the general curriculum of these countries. don’t huff a bluff. let’s begin with brazil.
Brazil’s curriculum is your homework, not mine.
At the very least you can start your Google Scholar search with the keywords “Brazil curriculum math improvement”
and what’s so bad having maths as elective? that would even entice all the good maths people around to elect these, an obvious choice. in fact, they would have preferred to elect all maths if one can only drop other subjects in exchange. think philippine science–that is an elective and selective school. if maths are relevant for a f
and may i repeat, chiz is inviting debate. the article i have provided need not have to agree with chiz, but reflects the validity of question chiz raises.
google search, yeah right: try nigeria, too. or hong kong. or even the philippines. you claim your bric is unique (you’re forgetting k, for korea), not much in there. go google. like as if this an institutionalized organization who even swap or compete on curriculum programs. nah. you do your own homework.
emilie:
where the article you cited is proposing that:
you, emilie are proposing that:
Good luck.
I presume a country that exports engineers and professionals – you want to export more japayukis, prostitutes, and servants – no mathematics needed.
good luck
emilie naman:
please read up naman on international topics – BRIC refers to Brazil, Russia, India, and China. update ka naman ng konti hane, ng di ka nangangamoy moth balls.
Now, when you have time – here is an assigned reading for you – OECD Report on Math in Industry Available
July 23, 2008
The OECD (Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development), through its Global Science Forum (GSF), has issued a report on Mathematics in Industry. The report may be found at http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/47/1/41019441.pdf. The report arose from a workshop held by OECD/GSF to identify mechanism for strengthening the connection between mathematics and industry. The workshop was held in Heidelberg, Germany, on March 22-24, 2007. The report is dated July 2008 and contains valuable references to other resources in this area.
Excerpts:
So, while the OECD is brushing up its math, making it more accessible, from elementary to high school – and making it an integral part of the student’s development, you would rather have more mathematically-challenged students.
So what next will you be proposing to become an elective?
After math becomes an elective, science becomes an elective? Reading becomes an elective.
While you are at it – make education an elective. :)
Sometimes I get the feeling that Pinoys are really myopic and this could be the reason why we cannot achieve much.
I thought too that Spanish was a subject we can do without until I left the Philippines. In “ermites from Within”, I wrote:
“In the sixties, high school students were required to take up two Spanish courses as mandatory subjects. Later, these subjects were offered as electives. Also in college, you have to take up 12 units of Spanish language and literature subjects before you were allowed to graduate. Then the nationalists in us had scrapped Spanish subjects in colleges and universities altogether. In high school, Spanish language is no longer offered as an elective due to lack of teachers who could teach the subject. Spanish teachers have long retired and no one has learned the Spanish language that well to fill up the shortage of Spanish teachers in high school.
It was good that we have scrapped the language if we had offered technical courses in its place. It was good also if you look at the world as no more than the 7,100 islands comprising the Philippines. But the world is composed of 191 nations and counting and at least 20 countries speak the Spanish language and only one nation speaks Tagalog. Due to unparalleled advance in technology, the world had shrunk further that you can communicate with someone across several continents in lightning speed and learn other cultures in front of your computer. Filipinos are all over the world. If you can imagine that the world is your promenade, you have 11 times likely to meet Spanish speaking persons out of 100 persons you have met in your travel. Eleven persons whom you could have communicated with ease and clarity and leave an impression that Filipinos are cultured and linguistically gifted had not the nationalists in us deprived us of the opportunity to learn this language. The remaining 89 persons would be English speaking people or at least some of these numbers can communicate in English, a language almost all Filipinos knew too well.
In California where demographic concentration of Filipinos is high, are outnumbered by the Mexicans and other Spanish speaking nationals. In this state as well as in others, job postings would prefer a bilingual Spanish and English applicants than those who simply know how to speak English”.
Thought the same too. Played hookie while in Spanish class – now I know better. Given similar skill sets, mastery of Spanish can be a ticket to a career, or at the very least a good job.
When more languages are added – German, Mandarin, French, Arabic – the opportunities for lateral and vertical career moves get wider and deeper.
well said bongv.. :)
That’s the thing, when you’re a kid, you don’t realise the importance or the essence of the stuff they teach at school. When you’re young, you are more focused on having fun and see school as a chore. It’s up to grown-ups to inculcate and make sure that the young are doing their homework and learning more instead of goofing off. When you have a grown-up like Chiz who sounds like he hasn’t matured yet or looks like he’s doing a revenge on the nerds, we’re gonna end up in deeper trouble.
Learning more stuff is better than learning less.
Ilda:
Exactly.
Was browsing a list of jobs for those who are bilingual at http://www.careerjet.com/bilingual-jobs/florida-374.html.
And my bossings have been advising me to get the Rosetta Stone CDs so I can brush up on my Spanish and make myself more useful when I have to go offsite and extract data from clients in Central and South America. I was also advised to learn Mandarin Chinese for near-future engagements in the various trade zones of China – Shanghai, Shenzhen, etc.
jcc,
the failure of the spanish curriculum was precisely because it was enforced. while i share your view that learning languages is valuable, in the past,not one among the spanish teachers even perceived of its economic significance other than a requirement to be able to comprehend rizal’s ultimo and link us back to our colonial past.
but surprise, surprise. drop by u.p. or ateneo, and you’d be amaze to see a range of linguistic course offering filled to brim. that’s because when there’s strong interest in them, the psychic rewards are much more promising. the same holds for math.
Knowledge is power. Let the rest think its a psychic reward. By the time you have grabbed the economic rewards. They are still scratching their heads. LOL
http://www.ehow.com/facts_5156797_kinds-jobs-available-bilinguals.html
What Kinds of Jobs Are Available to Bilinguals?
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By Johanna Lee
eHow Contributing Writer
The most common type of jobs available to bilinguals are in the fields of translation and interpretation, teaching, tourism, international business, the Foreign Service, CIA, and in the airline industry.
Advantages
1. Globalization, easy mobility and an increasingly international perspective, all combine to make bilingualism an advantage in any international career such as law, business or communication.
Dealing With Immigrants and Tourists
2. Becoming an interpreter or tour guide are both jobs which allows you to use your language skills to help immigrants or tourists who do not speak English.
Airline Industry
3. The airline industry needs bilingual employees as part of the cabin crew, ground staff, and customer service representatives.
International Business
4. Bilingual candidates will also be attractive to international businesses wishing to expand abroad or tap into foreign markets. Speaking the client’s native language will help prevent cultural misunderstandings and allow for direct business relationships without the use of an interpreter.
Teaching
5. Bilingual individuals can also teach English to foreigners or teach their second foreign language to non-native speakers.
right emilie, we failed to perceive the economic significance of a bilingual or a polygloat because we were blindfolded by our erroneous concept of nationalism or we were simply incorrigible myopic.
when you go to UP or Ateneo, you pay to learn different languages. in high school, specially public schools you do not pay much to learn another language, atleast Spanish, that is, had we not scrapped it in our curriculum.
in case of math and math related fields and science, i am more for putting them in elementary and high school curriculum because these primary and secondary education are affordable to most of our people while college is not.
btw,
not preparing to go to college is not an argument for not requiring basic or a little advanced math in high school. you can be a successful person without college degree if you are good at math. bill gates is a college drop-out but his programming skill made billions for him. computer programming is basically an algebraic language and a math formula.
Chiz calling these basic math subjects “electives” nevermind that children of THE SAME AGE in developing and developed countries are taking them shows Chiz Escudero’s
(1) low regard for the mental capacity of Filipino children. Bakit kung nakakayanan ng 10 year old na Hapon o 10 year old na Swiss o 10 year old na Thai ang linear algebra bakit hindi kaya ng Pinoy?
(2) moronic desire to keep Filipinos below par. Well, kung sa standard ng konsiyensiya ni Chiz pasado si Erap at si Marcos, obvious na noon pa man, mababa talaga ang standards ni Chiz.
Perhaps THE LACK OF BASIC math/science/logical reasoning that Chiz continues to espouse explains why:
a.) A 25 year old worker, who works 8 hours a day plus a 2 hour commute, to get a P15000 salary (gross) thinks he (or the church that thinks for him) can afford a Starbucks cappuccino thrice a week, have 2 children with one on the way, and three mobile phones…..
b.) The government, without having to do any computations seeing that the land area of Metro Manila is not increasing infinitely, think a 2% population rate is ok.
c.) A congressman, whose salary is way way lower than the average salary of your Filipino Voices blogger, and who has spent way more than his inheritance during the campaign can still afford to have 3 luxury cars, a second home in Forbes, a staff bigger than Pacquiao’s (who has his own money), and three mistresses.
Chiz “Boy Laway” Escudero 2010, ngayon na!
It is easier to control and fool morons.
The more pinoys behaving like morons, who can’t tell the difference between demagogues and go-getters, the better for the demagogues.
And true enough, the fool and his money are soon parted – and all the fool can think about is “surge the gates”.
They have yet to learn or perhaps, will NEVER LEARN – to do their homework, and to do the homework RIGHT. The Philippines is alreay on a slippery slope from mediocracy to idiocracy.
I agree with Chiz’s idea of restudying of curriculum. But I would like to retain Algebra and Geometry on the High School curriculum. I think also that Calculus should be taught only at college (or an elective in high school).
But I wouldn’t go too far as to judge these actions as intentionally trying to make Filipinos dumb. From a personal perspective, I have seen in schools that math is repeatedly taught without effectively reaching results. Learning should not be all activity but efficiency. Basic minor subjects in college just repeat what was once taught in high school. I guess him once being a teacher saw this from a personal perspective as well.
Edward,
A starting point for curriculum review should be, “okay, what do we want our high school graduates to be prepared for”? In the US, my daughter took calculus her junior year of high school and this year is taking advanced calculus. Does the Philippines want its graduates to be able to compete globally against top minds, or simply “do as we do”, which is rote learning with little applied application or encouragement to think outside boxes.
English or Tagalog? Very same question. Global competitor or isolation and mediocrity. I can’t for the life of me figure out why it is so important to do it the Filipino way rather than compete. Pride has no market value. Ability does.
Or how about the right kind of pride, pride in accomplishment. Pride in knowing right from wrong. Pride in honor.
Joe
I’ve learned in school, that schools these days are trying to breed more “money-makers” rather than “thinkers”. These would make a world’s difference when molding a man. Just think of corruption and greed.
Seeing from this one type of measurement. They are basing the quality of education to an earning potential.
So what is the basis of good education? good starting salary? What is the basis of good starting salary? good education? The job market is becoming a resume-based system just like education being a grade-based system.
I can’t believe you indirectly referred to Tagalog as mediocre heheh. It is a very unique language. There is a hidden assumption here that using english makes education effective. I think this is false though. Though it can be a good competitive advantage in working overseas, using it as a primary language (especially in education) is disastrous.
To be blunt, I prefer isolation and mediocrity. Of course mediocrity is relative. In the measurements by the world today (mostly being secular) I wouldn’t be that affected being called ‘mediocre’.
Isolation because of the fact that imperialism has made the Phiippines a slave market. Relying on exporting cheap labor (including call centers) to the benefit of imperialists. I would prefer having Filipinos in the Philippines. Families are the basic units of society. If you break that up, society breaks down. Ask a child if he would prefer growing up rich or growing up without parents by their side.
I’m not really supporting for ‘the Filipino way’ but rather finding an effective way of doing it for the Filipinos. It doesn’t have to be a Filipino way. Just the other day I wished that our education system would adapt Chinese/Japanese way of learning basic mental math through the abacus (This has amazing results). But in language, if you want Filipinos to have the ability to understand their lessons effectively, understand laws, do business, have national dignity (not pride), its having a strong presence of the national language.
Pushing for the dog-eat-dog world aren’t we? Although Competition is healthy in some areas (like sports) it’s not healthy in some. In the Philippines, it’s not a dog-eat-dog world. It’s a man-eat-dog world. heheh. But seriously, if cannibalism pervaded an uncivilized society, a symbolic one should be considered uncivilized as well.
Edward,
You make good points. My perspective was indeed “money making”, which is and should not be the only standard. For teachers, it often is less relevant than improving the lives of young people. I think there is nothing wrong with sticking with Tagalog as the national language if Filipinos tend mainly to aspire to work in the Philippines. But that requires either a wholly more constructive economy or a whale of a lot fewer babies. Right now, people flood abroad to subsist, and English is a much better language for that. And it is better for the commercial global market, assuming, for instance, the Philippines wishes to compete in agribusiness, sciences (oceanography anyone?), tourism, and, of course, call centers and other tech services.
I also think there need to be a lot more “applied thinkers” who can deal with matters of land use (zoning), health care, global warming, pollution control, resource management, and on and on . . . here in the Philippines, not meandering abroad . . . where a lot of talent goes now . . .
Joe
As far as meandering abroad goes – you pay peanuts, you get monkeys. Value for value.
@Joe
Well I as well don’t fully resist the use of English. We can still have that as single independent subject. However using it as a tool of instruction in education is what I would like to change for the sake of the common Juan. Even with complex sciences I think this could be done. Furthermore, with a large control of the airwaves by english I don’t think we could easily lose our grasp of it.
Your suggestion I think is a very applicable in the short-term having skilled people going abroad. But hopefully with brain-drain being lessened, a better road for the country is to take a step back towards its roots (obviously a problem). Language is a big part of tradition and culture and I fear modernity is pushing it side even further.
oops forgot to close that quote. heheh.
Under senate agenda:
http://www.chizescudero.com/chiz/aboutChiz.php?act=platform
7 motherhood statements don’t make a platform. No different from Noynoy’s 6 motherhood statements he calls a platform, too.
I do respect your standards, but it still passes as a platform by definition.
Edward:
That’s lowering the bar you can practically stumble on the standards.
That’s the Pinoy “pwede na” mentality at work.
Factoring time element, I would say that that is an exageration.
But what’s this? even platform plez has a platform from chiz
http://getrealphilippines.com/platformplez/matrix_2010.html
C’mon you gotta admit. He’s got it.
Edward:
I’ll be inclined to agree If Chiz had something WITH SUBSTANCE – like this – http://www.nicanor-perlas.com/2010/strategic-agenda.html and this – http://www.nicanor-perlas.com/Nicanor/complete-platform2.html
Moreover, reading the recent interviews of the frontrunners made – laugh hysterically when I juxtapose their replies against this book – http://www.amazon.com/Shaping-Globalization-Society-Cultural-Threefolding/dp/9719223308
BongV,
I agree that Nick Perlas is the best candidate for the presidency. The best platform of course, no doubt. Though I won’t hold credit for the other candidates. Chiz may not be on the same level but still deserves credit. Its not a 0 or 100 for me.
That’s a very interesting book. Being an intellectual Nick Perlas has a lot of good ideas. He’s even proposing a peaceful cultural revolution for the Philippines which I support. I’m not swaying from the Nick Perlas party.
Edward:
The more I compare the positions (or the lack thereof) on the issues of the day among the candidates, the moe that Nick Perlas stands out as an oasis in the Philippines’ intellectual desert.
As far as I am concerned, proven ability, vision and platform, internationally acclaimed credentials trumps winnability and pedigreed vacuousness.
Of course, the oligarch dominated mass media does not want to give exposure to Nick Perlas because his ideas include putting the oligarch monopolies on the chopping block.
No use, Edward, a dead-end street, a wall.
Yes I was actually expecting that kind of response while I was posting.
Its good enough for me anyway.
yeah I noticed it was kinda vague.
“I think also that Calculus should be taught only at college”
Ang dali daling subject ang calculus. Area under the curve lang.
Yun lang ba? Meron pa kayang mga parabola at mga matrices chuva. Medyo mabigat yun para sa high school ah
eh?
matrices are so simple. it’s done step by step.
parabolas are taught in PE
these are BASICS. Calculus is BASIC.
Yeah it’s easy. But think of others who are having jobs while studying. While we can speak of ourselves, having a lot of free time to focus on our studies, what about the others? Those who do not have enough tools, convenience, and facilities.
Maybe an elective for the achieving ones? At least it would be easy for the teachers and the students.
And I think calculus is advanced math not basic. Maybe you’re a prodigy. heheh
thenashman,
“I think also that Calculus should be taught only at college” per thenashman
I may not side with you on that. There are some bright students that should be introduce to preCal early on their Senior High School year curriculum. Let me emphasize the analytic area of calculus.
Analysis looks carefully at the results obtained in calculus and related areas. One might characterize algebra and geometry as the search for elegant conclusions from small sets of axioms; in analysis on the other hand the measure of success is more frequently the ability to hone a tool which could be applied throughout science. Thus in particular, most of the calculations are done with the real numbers or complex numbers being implicitly understood.
Crunching numbers is complex, but the complexity of it, is the fun part.
So. Yeah, maybe senior class would be a good start.
Umm I think he was quoting me on this one.
A nice perspective. A pre-Cal could be a lighter alternative.
definitely that quote was NOT from me but from som Chiz “Boy Laway” Escudero fanatic
ano pa ba ang pre-cal eh ang pre-cal kinuha na sa elementary????
thenashman,
You quoted on—November 10, 2009 at 5:14 am
“definitely that quote was NOT from me but from som Chiz “Boy Laway” Escudero fanatic”
Just a reminder, I’m no Chiz “Boy Laway” Escudero fan.
Slowly read over my comments. If you can’t grasp the concept to what I have said.
There’s must be some loose screws stuck in your head, and need of tighten.
Or maybe you need to study a wee bit.
“Math for Morons Pre-Cal/Calculus” Get back with me, when you have your loose screws tighten!
Ooopss, my bad!
thenashman
“Math for Morons Pre-Cal/Calculus” Don’t forget to get back with me now!
Yeah. I’m such a fanatic. With such unreasonable basis for favoring Chiz Escudero.
@mario taporco
thanks for the link. Math for Morons. lol
why does Mario think it’s about him? Narcissist much?