Comments on: Why the Reproductive Health Bill Debate Affects Every Filipino http://filipinovoices.com/why-the-reproductive-health-bill-debate-affects-every-filipino Powered By A Collective Voice Fri, 10 Feb 2012 05:29:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.3 By: ali http://filipinovoices.com/why-the-reproductive-health-bill-debate-affects-every-filipino/comment-page-2#comment-192648 ali Sat, 19 Jun 2010 16:43:13 +0000 http://www.filipinovoices.com/?p=914#comment-192648 I think I was made to believe that the RH Bill will not work alone in trying to slow population growth. Find predominantly Catholic countries and see if any of them legalized abortion. Wag mo tayong ikatulad sa tate. If there would be anything wrong with this bill, it is how it will be implemented, so choose your leaders well. I think I was made to believe that the RH Bill will not work alone in trying to slow population growth. Find predominantly Catholic countries and see if any of them legalized abortion. Wag mo tayong ikatulad sa tate. If there would be anything wrong with this bill, it is how it will be implemented, so choose your leaders well.

]]> By: ali http://filipinovoices.com/why-the-reproductive-health-bill-debate-affects-every-filipino/comment-page-2#comment-192647 ali Sat, 19 Jun 2010 16:37:31 +0000 http://www.filipinovoices.com/?p=914#comment-192647 popoi, magandang ginagamit niyo ang kaalaman niyo at dalawa lamang ang inyong anak. pero bibigyan ko po kayo ng payo, dahil yung mga iminumungkahi ng sinasabing bill ay hindi pampatay ng bata. naintindihan kong mahal niyo po ang inyong simbahan, pero hindi dapat sa lahat ng oras ay tanggapin niyo na lahat ng sinasabi nito at tama at nakararapat para sa marami, o minsan sa lahat. maki-alam po kayo, dahil karapatan nating malaman ang katotohanan. popoi, magandang ginagamit niyo ang kaalaman niyo at dalawa lamang ang inyong anak. pero bibigyan ko po kayo ng payo, dahil yung mga iminumungkahi ng sinasabing bill ay hindi pampatay ng bata. naintindihan kong mahal niyo po ang inyong simbahan, pero hindi dapat sa lahat ng oras ay tanggapin niyo na lahat ng sinasabi nito at tama at nakararapat para sa marami, o minsan sa lahat. maki-alam po kayo, dahil karapatan nating malaman ang katotohanan.

]]> By: ali http://filipinovoices.com/why-the-reproductive-health-bill-debate-affects-every-filipino/comment-page-1#comment-192642 ali Sat, 19 Jun 2010 16:29:35 +0000 http://www.filipinovoices.com/?p=914#comment-192642 you and missingpoints are using different wavelengths. stop it. yes, it's nice to have 3 kids and loving them, but it's not nice if your husband is not cooperating, and instead of loving the children he created, he goes on and creates some more. i'm not denying that there are good dads like you in the world (happy father's day by the way) but accept the fact that not all dads are like you. you and missingpoints are using different wavelengths. stop it. yes, it’s nice to have 3 kids and loving them, but it’s not nice if your husband is not cooperating, and instead of loving the children he created, he goes on and creates some more. i’m not denying that there are good dads like you in the world (happy father’s day by the way) but accept the fact that not all dads are like you.

]]> By: ali http://filipinovoices.com/why-the-reproductive-health-bill-debate-affects-every-filipino/comment-page-1#comment-192639 ali Sat, 19 Jun 2010 16:19:10 +0000 http://www.filipinovoices.com/?p=914#comment-192639 again with the ABORTION. well, they got to keep it if the fetus got formed. Under the PHILIPPINE CONSTITUTION, abortion is still against the law. So please tell me if such a bill CONTRADICTED the laws governing our country. Promiscuity. I wonder who was supposed to teach our teenagers to veer away from that. Oh yeah. The media. Yes, let's blame globalization now, you can now access everything with a single click. The world is changing. I think everyone needs to backtrack a bit to try to look for the reason why we're talking about this in the first place. Why are there too many people? Why do teens consult explicit material rather than talk openly to their parents about their bodies (face it, teens are curious people)? Why do couples continue on making babies even though they can no longer support any of them? So many questions, but if you can answer some for me, that'd be great. again with the ABORTION. well, they got to keep it if the fetus got formed. Under the PHILIPPINE CONSTITUTION, abortion is still against the law. So please tell me if such a bill CONTRADICTED the laws governing our country.
Promiscuity. I wonder who was supposed to teach our teenagers to veer away from that. Oh yeah. The media. Yes, let’s blame globalization now, you can now access everything with a single click. The world is changing.
I think everyone needs to backtrack a bit to try to look for the reason why we’re talking about this in the first place. Why are there too many people? Why do teens consult explicit material rather than talk openly to their parents about their bodies (face it, teens are curious people)? Why do couples continue on making babies even though they can no longer support any of them? So many questions, but if you can answer some for me, that’d be great.

]]> By: ali http://filipinovoices.com/why-the-reproductive-health-bill-debate-affects-every-filipino/comment-page-1#comment-192636 ali Sat, 19 Jun 2010 16:07:39 +0000 http://www.filipinovoices.com/?p=914#comment-192636 Who are they to dictate who goes to hell anyway? I think God gave us the minds to think, not to follow blindly. Logic was a gift He gave us, and I think it's time to use it. Who are they to dictate who goes to hell anyway? I think God gave us the minds to think, not to follow blindly. Logic was a gift He gave us, and I think it’s time to use it.

]]> By: Manny http://filipinovoices.com/why-the-reproductive-health-bill-debate-affects-every-filipino/comment-page-2#comment-86271 Manny Wed, 19 Aug 2009 08:32:36 +0000 http://www.filipinovoices.com/?p=914#comment-86271 The advocates of HB 5043 seem to forget that contraceptive usage on a large scale has NOT been shown to lower unintended pregnancies. In fact, it has INCREASED them along with an attendant increase in demand for abortion. For example, see the following: <b>Increased access to contraception not linked to decrease in numbers of unplanned pregnancies, abortions</b> http://www.news-medical.net/?id=20761 <blockquote>The belief that increased access to contraception will “reduce rates of unintended pregnancy and abortion” has “intuitive appeal, but the data prove otherwise,” Susan Wills, associate director for education for the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops’ Secretariat for Pro-Life Activities, writes in a Washington Post letter to the editor in response to a Post opinion piece by William Saletan, science and technology reporter for Slate magazine.</blockquote> <b>Habit Persistence and Teen Sex: Could Increased Access to Contraception have Unintended Consequences for Teen Pregnancies?</b> http://www.econ.duke.edu/~psarcidi/teensex.pdf <blockquote>The persistence in sexual activity is such that policies that affect access to contraception will have very different effects in the short run than the long run. Our results suggest that increasing access to contraception may actually increase long run pregnancy rates even though short run pregnancy rates fall. On the other and, policies that decrease access to contraception, and hence sexual activity, are likely to lower pregnancy rates in the long run.</blockquote> So how is flooding the country with condoms going to solve our economic problems? It won't. In fact, it will just make matters worse. If anything is moronic, it is those arguments in favor of the RH Bill. The advocates of HB 5043 seem to forget that contraceptive usage on a large scale has NOT been shown to lower unintended pregnancies. In fact, it has INCREASED them along with an attendant increase in demand for abortion.

For example, see the following:

Increased access to contraception not linked to decrease in numbers of unplanned pregnancies, abortions
http://www.news-medical.net/?id=20761

The belief that increased access to contraception will “reduce rates of unintended pregnancy and abortion” has “intuitive appeal, but the data prove otherwise,” Susan Wills, associate director for education for the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops’ Secretariat for Pro-Life Activities, writes in a Washington Post letter to the editor in response to a Post opinion piece by William Saletan, science and technology reporter for Slate magazine.

Habit Persistence and Teen Sex: Could Increased Access to Contraception have Unintended Consequences for Teen Pregnancies?
http://www.econ.duke.edu/~psarcidi/teensex.pdf

The persistence in sexual activity is such that policies that affect access to contraception will have very different effects in the short run than the long run. Our results suggest that increasing access to contraception may actually increase long run pregnancy rates even though short run pregnancy rates fall. On the other and, policies that decrease access to contraception, and hence sexual activity, are likely to lower pregnancy rates in the long run.

So how is flooding the country with condoms going to solve our economic problems? It won’t. In fact, it will just make matters worse. If anything is moronic, it is those arguments in favor of the RH Bill.

]]> By: Renato Pacifico http://filipinovoices.com/why-the-reproductive-health-bill-debate-affects-every-filipino/comment-page-2#comment-56205 Renato Pacifico Tue, 05 May 2009 04:28:07 +0000 http://www.filipinovoices.com/?p=914#comment-56205 Popoi, pleez speakenges goot englischtzes. I kannot anderstand you. Kasi bourgeouis ako, e. I don't nderstand tangalog. Pleez na man speaknegese goot englichtzes ... like others here ... HA!HA!HA!HA!HA! Popoi, pleez speakenges goot englischtzes. I kannot anderstand you. Kasi bourgeouis ako, e. I don’t nderstand tangalog. Pleez na man speaknegese goot englichtzes … like others here …

HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!

]]> By: popoi http://filipinovoices.com/why-the-reproductive-health-bill-debate-affects-every-filipino/comment-page-2#comment-56194 popoi Tue, 05 May 2009 03:54:25 +0000 http://www.filipinovoices.com/?p=914#comment-56194 debating mayaman....halos wala akong maintindihan. iniibig ko ang aking simbahana at kombinsido kaming mga katutubo sa pakay ng simbahang katoliko. kong popwede intindihin nyo bakit kombensido kami, nasa "bahay hari" lang naman kayo, kami ay nandito gumagawa at nag-iisip at nag-paplano pawa sa bukas. dalawa lang anak namin dahil ginamit namin ang konting kaalaman namin. hindi kami gumagamit ng pampatay ninyo ng mga bata at hindi kami nag"label" kahit kanino ng mga masamang pangalan. sana maintindihan nyo kami... sori nakikisulat lang sa kaibigang popoi. wala akong emil. timoay son debating mayaman….halos wala akong maintindihan. iniibig ko ang aking simbahana at kombinsido kaming mga katutubo sa pakay ng simbahang katoliko. kong popwede intindihin nyo bakit kombensido kami, nasa “bahay hari” lang naman kayo, kami ay nandito gumagawa at nag-iisip at nag-paplano pawa sa bukas. dalawa lang anak namin dahil ginamit namin ang konting kaalaman namin. hindi kami gumagamit ng pampatay ninyo ng mga bata at hindi kami nag”label” kahit kanino ng mga masamang pangalan. sana maintindihan nyo kami… sori nakikisulat lang sa kaibigang popoi. wala akong emil. timoay son

]]> By: Cai Mariano http://filipinovoices.com/why-the-reproductive-health-bill-debate-affects-every-filipino/comment-page-2#comment-34092 Cai Mariano Tue, 17 Feb 2009 23:57:53 +0000 http://www.filipinovoices.com/?p=914#comment-34092 According to missing points: “contraception will embolden the male chauvinists in us to abuse women because they can always satisfy their lust without worrying about the responsibility that comes with parenting” As opposed to now, when they satisfy their lust without worrying about the responsibility that comes with parenting? :) The only difference is with contraception, we have no child to worry about. Which leaves the government free to take on the problem of spousal abuse without worrying about childcare." --missing points Reproduction is closely linked to abuse sometimes. Sometimes, chauvinist men will just impregnate a woman (against her will) to control her and as an act of violence. This is the kind of abuse we can prevent with proper contraceptive education. According to missing points:

“contraception will embolden the male chauvinists in us to abuse women because they can always satisfy their lust without worrying about the responsibility that comes with parenting”

As opposed to now, when they satisfy their lust without worrying about the responsibility that comes with parenting? :)

The only difference is with contraception, we have no child to worry about. Which leaves the government free to take on the problem of spousal abuse without worrying about childcare.”

–missing points

Reproduction is closely linked to abuse sometimes. Sometimes, chauvinist men will just impregnate a woman (against her will) to control her and as an act of violence. This is the kind of abuse we can prevent with proper contraceptive education.

]]> By: Cai Mariano http://filipinovoices.com/why-the-reproductive-health-bill-debate-affects-every-filipino/comment-page-2#comment-34091 Cai Mariano Tue, 17 Feb 2009 23:54:04 +0000 http://www.filipinovoices.com/?p=914#comment-34091 Missing points, I love children. The point is not whether you love children or not, the point is whether people having the children can give them the adequate health care and love that they need. If you keep having kids you can't take care of, that's another story. It's not a matter of opinion, when people don't have access to proper information, it's a matter of good government policy. Missing points,

I love children. The point is not whether you love children or not, the point is whether people having the children can give them the adequate health care and love that they need. If you keep having kids you can’t take care of, that’s another story. It’s not a matter of opinion, when people don’t have access to proper information, it’s a matter of good government policy.

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